Cyclic Experimentation Set x01 - [Game Over]
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I PM'ed the mod earlier, but just so the thread knows, I'm V/LA for the next week for holiday activities. I will be checking the thread, but not frequently."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I haven't forgotten about this game, but the wifi at my inlaws that I used to bum from a surrounding neighbor is no longer available. I do not have the time to catchup on 12 pages.
@Mod: Gonna need V/LA until next monday. If you feel you need to replace me, I understand. When I signed up for this game I didn't realize it would be starting so close to the holiday."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
QFT. I think the voting on the vig is bad.MOI wrote:I agree with what you are saying but I don’t ascribe to letting diddin divest himself of responsibility. As Town I think the proper course of action is to let him make the shot himself and thus bear the responsibility for it."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
It's not a weak bandwagon vote, it is a BLATANT bandwagon vote. Note here:WrathChild wrote:Lynchme and Pops also throw pretty weak bandwagon votes on Helghast.
It doesn't get more blatant bandwagonny than that.LynchMePls wrote:I'm gonna /barn RedCoyote andVote: Helghast
Ok. All of the following makes me think you are scum and should get vigged:WrathChild wrote:Expand?
This is quite possibly the lamest attempt at "too townie to be scum" I've ever seen.WrathChild wrote:PS
If people think my death will give the town valuable information due to the circumstances, go ahead and shoot me. If you do, you better lynch scum today or I'll be super bummed.
Laughably terrible posting.WrathChild wrote:So you're supporting the death of a player you don't think is scum?
Also, Major FoS on Didden for having tunnel vision on killing me.
@LAteralus: What IS the case against me?
WrathChild wrote:Post Count:
-LynchMePls: 2
-RedCoyote: 12
-MagnaOfIllusion: 11
-themanhimself: 21
-Lateralus22* (Thelonging): 24
-WrathChild: 23
-curiouskarmadog: 28
-Helghast: 11
-Powerrox93: 13
-quadz08: 19
-chkflip: 17
-Nero Cain: 11
-Narsis: 6
-Q21: 3
-diddin: 27
-popsofctown: 54
-SnakePlissken: 1
-I Am Innocent: 15
-StrangerCoug* (UnofficialRuler): 4
-Parama: 35
-Implosion: 16
-EtherealCookie: 14
-Saint/Vi: 27
Ok, had some extra time this morning. There are three players with disturbingly low post counts. I need to double check the V/LA status on these people.
Lurker hunting is NOT a good place to start to find SCUM. It is a good place to start to find mislynches.WrathChild wrote:OK, so I used the most awesome feature of this forum "Display posts by user" and looked at LynchmePls, Narsis and Q21.
LynchmePls looks to have no access.
Q21 announced a V/LA from 12/26-1/3 but had a nice wall post.
Narsis announced a V/LA from 12/24-12/28 and has contributed nothing of value.
In fact, he's made some scummy posts:
1st Post: RVS Vote on LynchmePls
2nd Post: Fixes #1
3rd: Agrees with ability passing confirmation strategy
4th: When Quadz votes Parama for a scumclim, Narsis defends the so called scumslip. The only reason I see people doing this is A: when they are scummates or B: Scum trying to stick up for town, so when that person gets lynched they can give you the I-told-you-so.
5th: Defends self when Magna calls him out for trying to break the game as opposed to scumhunt.
6th: Votes EC on a "Gut-Feeling"
So I think I'll:
(See next post because of Quick Reply non-boldability)
Expanded enough?"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
No, let me correct you:
#1: Calling someone out for bandwagonning when they explicitly said there vote was bandwagonning, is NOT OK.
#2: No clue where you dreamed this one up.
#3: Hunting lurkers and trying to pawn it off as actual scum hunting is NOT OK.
#4: Looking town is OK."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Please define what you mean by active lurking. Because my play does not fall into that category as I understand it, yet I was one of the players you were drawing attention to. I was not even lurking, I was plainly V/LA, which was noted to both the mod AND in thread.WraithChild wrote:2) Active lurking (where I usually play) led to many scum victories fairly recently, so naturally I felt the need to at least look at those actively lurking.
By your own admission you didn't have time for "serious scum hunting". Do you know what townies do when they don't have time for "serious scum hunting"? Nothing. Do you know what scum do? Act like they are scum hunting to try and blend with town.
Can we lynch and/or shoot this guy please?"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I don't think bandwagonning done for the sake of bandwagonning is scummy when it is expressily admitted to being such. Obviously this doesn't apply to all situations, just bandwagonning.WrathChild wrote:#1: Forgive me for not knowing the /barn term means the same as blatant bandwagon. Regardless, this does not make blatant bandwagonry any more acceptable.
So by your logic, it would be OK if I said, "I fake-claim Doc so the real Doc and counterclaim me"? If I do something blatantly scummy, saying that it is blatantly scummy does NOT make it any less scummy.
Please explain why you think a bandwagon vote is a scum tell, so that I can show you why when a player calls out that their vote is a bandwagon vote, it pretty much negates the scumminess of it.[/quote]"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Because attacking someone for "weak bandwagonning" when that person is admitting that there vote is a bandwagon vote is another example of you trying to look like you are scum hunting, instead of actually scum hunting. The problem is you are using a buzz word to try and fabricate a scum motivation where there is none.WraithChild wrote:Scum like to do what is easy. They like to hop onto existing cases, they like to accelerate lynches or cases that are favorable to them. I still don't understand why calling out a bandwagon is scummier than blatantly bandwagoning despite claiming it or not."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Diddin announced that he has a dayvig on Dec 23. It's now Jan 6, which is 2 full weeks later and he still hasn't shot. This is starting to get really scummy. Diddin's wanting to get town cred by having everyone vote on his shot, while being able to disown the consequences of the shot is scummy. Drawing out the process for over 2 weeks, leaving us with less time to deal with the aftermath is scummy. We're now at less than a week to deadline.
That was a week ago. FREAKING SHOOT ALREADY. The longer he waits on pulling the trigger, the scummier he gets.diddin wrote:Unless there are some serious objections, I'm gonna go ahead and shoot Helghast. I'll support a lynch of Wrath today instead as Helghast is screaming vigbait to me quite a bit."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
@Everyone else: Please join me on this wagon. It's awesome. Quadz is also an acceptable wagon.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Well...fuck....that went well. /sarcasm
Prior to the lynch I was most suss of WC and Diddin with his stalling, and while I still have a small pinky fos on Diddin, I am looking back over WC posts right now to remind myself of the specifics of why I found him scummy and will list them should i decide to vote because my content level so far has been disgusting.
Saturday I will be fully here though! <3"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
QFT.WrathChild wrote:
The point is that you narrowed the potential Vig candidates down to two very early and greatly influenced the number of people voting for each of those players by doing so. You can't just say "DERP! They had lotso votes", they had lots of votes because you said they were they only two people you would shoot. EC would of had many more votes if you didn't deny the option to shoot him.diddin wrote:
Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!quadz08 wrote:
Why the hell would you do that? *scumdarasplode*diddin wrote:I wanted to wait until as close to deadline as possible.
My God you are slow.WrathChild wrote:I also think that Diddin should examined a bit closer because essentially he limited his Vig targets to only myself and Helghast, he refused to kill EC. It seems to be a safe-scum play to limit the vig targets as he did. While he made it appear that we had a choice, it was win-win for Diddin IF he is scum.
How many times did we agree I was shooting people with a lot of votes (hint: not EC)? How many times did I say I didn't want someone else to claim and potentially out a stronger power role? It's like I'm talking to someone and whenever I make a point they stick their fingers in their ear and go LALALALALALA YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE WRONG"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Why does him wanting to understand why helghast was scummy and helghast flipping town make him extremely likely town? I find the flip actually makes him more likely scum, as though he already knew that Helghast was going to flip town, and wanted to get town-cred by opposing the vig (although not nearly effectively/strongly enough to actually stop it)."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
@tmh: this was directed at you. You've posted since, and you didn't answer.LynchMePls wrote:Why does him wanting to understand why helghast was scummy and helghast flipping town make him extremely likely town? I find the flip actually makes him more likely scum, as though he already knew that Helghast was going to flip town, and wanted to get town-cred by opposing the vig (although not nearly effectively/strongly enough to actually stop it)."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I can't believe there are not more votes on this wagon. WTF folks.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:The end of my busyness and inactivity is at an end!
Skimming back over posts previously, I still find early/mid D1 actions of WC to be a bit scummy, but as pointed out by many of you (and I honestly was too busy to notice on my own) diddin's narrowing it down to just those two, (and Helghast flipping town) make me cautious of outright lynching WC because I am more suspicious of diddin than him, and if diddin were scum, then he'd likely have narrowed it down to townies...unless of course (WIFOM!) he knew we'd come to this conclusion and actually chose his scum buddy WC because he hoped he might be able to swayit onto Helg, and if he had to vig WC he'd look grand for having hit a a scum, and ARGH. I hate WIFOM. Gives me headache.
Anyways, enough babbling, I am going to hold off on my vote of WC for now, and while part of me would like to see diddin hanged today, I concede that town or scum, he'd be useful to us for another dayvig (hopefully...)
and after that,
Powerrox93 wrote:
UNVOTE:themanhimself wrote:I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've hadthreetownie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?
VOTE: themanhimself
No Lynch is only good when a game is at MyLo. And I would beREEAALLYYsurprised if a large game where at MyLo already with three town deaths.Only scum would suggest No Lynch in non-MyLo-situations.
Speaking of WIFOM - ffs.
vote: powerrox"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Nero Cain wrote:Says the guy who isn't on his wagon...
+2 scum points
+over 9000! scum points for lying.LynchMePls wrote:Unvote
Vote: DarlaBlueEyes
Diddin, shoot so we can get on to the lynching scumz."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Just so I have this straight, you accuse me of something and call me scummy for it, I point out that you are incorrect, so you just dream up another reason to call me scum? My vote can be wherever the hell I want it. I assure you there won't be a no lynch due to my vote.Nero Cain wrote:
Mah bad!!! I thought you were talkining about Powerrox while I agree that Darla is scummy there's like 4 days till the dl and sitting your vote on Darla doesn't look very pro-town.LynchMePls wrote:Nero Cain wrote:Says the guy who isn't on his wagon...
+2 scum points
+over 9000! scum points for lying.LynchMePls wrote:Unvote
Vote: DarlaBlueEyes
Diddin, shoot so we can get on to the lynching scumz."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Vote: DarlaBlueEyes
Everyone should do this. The slot has pretty much 0 scum hunting, all go with the flow, and DBE made some particularly terrible posts that I would be happy to point out and/or discuss if anyone didn't see them.
Please ISO Narsis/Darla. Then vote for her."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Here are the following posts that come from scum-Darla, all for the obvious reasons:
DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Arg. Okay I had a wordpad open full of all my notes as I read through, but the fucking computer updated itself and restarted while I was making me some nachos. SO. I am just going to try and vaguely reconstruct my basic impression of things that stand out as notable, as well as my take on the current day-vig candidates for didden, (which by the way, I support the majority ruling/vote/decision what have you on too.)
ANYWAYS. Again, with the delays, apologies and a post is being typed up now with my actual content.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Okay, I am having a really hard time getting my head around previous posts, this is my first game in like, a year, so I apologize for being rusty, so instead of trying to voice opinions on what has happened thus far, I am just going to throw myself into the fray and ask that if anyone has any specific questions they'd like my take on to please ask them, and as for the vig vote, I am torn between many but I agree that so far Helghast seems to be the most reasonable candidate, though I am finding WC to be highly irrational and seems to be trying to change his take on everything to get any and all FoSes off him.
So, to sum up:Vig Vote: HelghastDarlaBlueEyes wrote:I cannot help that I am overwhelmed by my own inadequacies and 22 pages of long ass posts. It's been a longgggg time since I've played, just getting my feet wet again. I hardly think that's enough to constitute a lynch. As for no lynch vote I am still reviewing and it seems pretty detrimental to the town to vote blindly or simply bandwagon onto someone.
As for my read on Nero, gimmie a few to go examine his play so far and I will report back with an answerDarlaBlueEyes wrote:I am incredibly sorry to replace in and then be busy guys, this weekend should signal the end of my failings though, so please bear with me. As per promised looking back I find Nero to be a bit aggressive and a little suspicious but I am not getting a major scum vibe off him (I forget who asked my read)
and so far I find the most suspicion in Helghast and find it a bit annoying that diddin is stalling so much major FoS there. If he fails to shoot I am voting him as mentioned above for Lynch All Liars policy.
For now,vote Helghasthe seems the most likely candidate for scum from play, and if diddin isn't lying and manages to get in his vig, we'll at least have that information to base our lynch on. Also, I agree with the attempting to direct the doc = scummy, and is a big no no for town.
This one in particular. The oh noes, that went bad for us is so obviously coming from scum.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Well...fuck....that went well. /sarcasm
Prior to the lynch I was most suss of WC and Diddin with his stalling, and while I still have a small pinky fos on Diddin, I am looking back over WC posts right now to remind myself of the specifics of why I found him scummy and will list them should i decide to vote because my content level so far has been disgusting.
Saturday I will be fully here though! <3
Still not 1 single instance of Darla even attempting to hunt scum. More go with the flow, ended with a weak ass hop onto the mislynch-of-the-day(TM) wagon, despite the earlier quote "As for no lynch vote I am still reviewing and it seems pretty detrimental to the town to vote blindly or simply bandwagon onto someone."DarlaBlueEyes wrote:The end of my busyness and inactivity is at an end!
Skimming back over posts previously, I still find early/mid D1 actions of WC to be a bit scummy, but as pointed out by many of you (and I honestly was too busy to notice on my own) diddin's narrowing it down to just those two, (and Helghast flipping town) make me cautious of outright lynching WC because I am more suspicious of diddin than him, and if diddin were scum, then he'd likely have narrowed it down to townies...unless of course (WIFOM!) he knew we'd come to this conclusion and actually chose his scum buddy WC because he hoped he might be able to swayit onto Helg, and if he had to vig WC he'd look grand for having hit a a scum, and ARGH. I hate WIFOM. Gives me headache.
Anyways, enough babbling, I am going to hold off on my vote of WC for now, and while part of me would like to see diddin hanged today, I concede that town or scum, he'd be useful to us for another dayvig (hopefully...)
and after that,
Powerrox93 wrote:
UNVOTE:themanhimself wrote:I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've hadthreetownie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?
VOTE: themanhimself
No Lynch is only good when a game is at MyLo. And I would beREEAALLYYsurprised if a large game where at MyLo already with three town deaths.Only scum would suggest No Lynch in non-MyLo-situations.
Speaking of WIFOM - ffs.
vote: powerrox
Add to that Narsis' complete lack of participation, and this slot is doing absolutely everything it can to provide no substantive help to town, while weak-ass bandwagonning yesterday's mislynch. This slot is scum. Vote accordingly.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Wow. I am so confused LOL. I need to brush up on game mechanics better now that I have been away so long. The secret vote/whatever the hell that is, that's not actually confirmed yet, right? I get the impression MOD isn't going to be answering us there, and
Parama how do you know Lat is confirmed town exactly?
Rereading the last three pages as I feel a bit whirlwinded.
Also don't quite know what to think about pops replacing out when he was that close to a lynch...seems a bit fishy to me.
@Darla: List 3 players who are scum and why."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
^this is a fine lynch as well.
Taking the dayvig and then doing the whole "democratically" thing again is so terrible. In fact, taking the dayvig at all is something I'd expect from a scummer with your ability.
tmh can hang too."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Because now we can't use who diddin sent it to as a connection if diddin is in fact scum. Also, if diddin was scum, we'd know it was going to town. Lastly, giving it to yourself is suspect. Could you only steal the power to yourself, or could you redirect it to anyone? If you could send it to anyone, why did you send it to yourself, PARTICULARLY if you are of the belief that using it democratically is the proper way to use the vig.
Taking the vig and then using that terrible "we'll do it democratically" shit is terrible. Did you see how it ended yesterday? Dayvig's should take the best shot they can, and then accept the consequences of their action. Voting on the dayvig is TERRIBLE."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
@quadz: One of two possibilities exist. The person with the dayvig ability is town, or the person with the dayvig ability is scum.
IF TOWN: Then letting them take the shot leaves the dayvig target solely in the hands of a townie. This is a good thing.
IF SCUM: Then letting them take the shot leaves them solely responsible for the choice, and allows the town to draw conclusions about the player based on the choice made to help discern the dayvig's alignment. This is a good thing.
By voting on it, we get the worst of both worlds. The shot is now controlled at least partially by scum input, AND we can't discern the alignment of the dayvig based on the decision, because they can disown the decision as not there own. The only possible upside is that you force interactions from everyone by requiring a vig-vote, BUT WE ALREADY GET THIS FROM REGULAR VOTES!
@Bunnylover: And if Darla actually did anything about it, such as questioning those players, or voting them, or anything like that, then I might agree with you. But what did Darla do at the end of that post? BANDWAGON VOTE THE MISLYNCH OF THE DAY FOR TERRIBLE REASONS WITHOUT PURSUING THE DIDDIN/WC THING AT ALL. Also everything she said about diddin/WC had already been said ad nauseam by multiple other players. It was completely unoriginal, and in my mind, not at all scum hunting. They were statements designed to blend in with some popular town sentiment at the time.Bunnylover wrote:@LMP: Your second to last quote of DBE seems like scum hunting to me. He calls out a possible WC and Diddin scum team, but ruins it by setting up the WIFOM situation."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Note both Darla's admission that her play was terrible and attempt to buddy me.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:If we're doing the claim thing by MoI (who we now know as town) then I was a Firewall (Doctor) and have cycled my ability on to the person I thought was most towny.
As for LMP's case against me I know my play yesterday was awful and I have plenty of excuses and reasoning for it - but I am not gonna blather on about it, rather I'll try to be more scumhunty instead.
**SNIP**
And while LMP is on my case, I actually find him to be quite town, and admit my play yesterday was pretty sucky, but I was overwhelmed and trying to lay low with my doc abilities - clearly I did a shit all job of that too LOL"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
But we're already getting this information from regular votes. Diminishing returns would tell you that it's much less valuable than the tool we'd have in watching a single player make the decision. It's like being told we can have cake AND pie, but just wanting extra cake instead! That would be... FOOLISH!quadz08 wrote:But if we do it democratically, then it's essentially 2 lynches per day. This means that we get twice the info that we'd get from a lynch. Yes, it absolves a single person from responsibility, but we gain more information about the entire town.
That being said, I think this argument is headed into distraction land, so I'd like to take this up again in endgame to discuss this further."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I LOL'd. I don't need coaching.WrathChild wrote:The reason I asked about the Mafia Night vs. Day Chat is that LMP seems to have significantly picked up his effort today. I'm thankfull for the increase in effort, but suspicious it may have been coached overnight.
I agree DBE needs to pick it up.
Multiple people with the "DBE needs to pick it up" not voting anyone.FOSall of them."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
If you're right, I'm thinking you probably are, you're still doing it wrong. TMH is for tomorrow, after he's been forced to pass the dayvig to another player.diddin wrote:TMH is scum. Remind me again how directing a vig power to yourself is protown? Also, he passed me his ability. It's pretty much a "busdriver" ability that I can only imagine mafia would have.
Vote: themanhimself
Also posting townreads and the like is NOT a scumtell like you seem to think. You obviously haven't realized that Parama does stuff like this regardless of alignment."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
How would this make you confirmed town tomorrow? If he used an ability to steal it from you, it doesn't mean you passed it to him.diddin wrote:
Learn to fucking read Parama.themanhimself wrote:Seems like a good idea to me. I had the power to change the cycle of night choices for N1. For example, I could tell the mod to send diddin's power to someone else regardless of who diddin tried to send it to. I sent the day-vig ability to myself and the person who got my redirect power knows who they are probably figured out why I sent it to them. I'm all for using my power democratically
TMH was arguably the second most popular lynch candidate yesterday. Why would he, as town, pass a powerful ability to himself if he knew he could be lynched today and lose the power? There's absolutely no town motive to. At all.
I'm going to love being confirmed town tomorrow."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Roger. I was thinking the vig ability. This is correct.diddin wrote:@LMP: TMH passed me his redirector ability. Scum cannot pass abilities between their team. Ergo, when TMH flips scum, I am confirmed town."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Really? Despite my observations? Care to comment on why my observations on DBE don't change your view?SC wrote:What relevance does DarlaBlueEyes have in this? Her appeal to emotion is worrisome to me, but if I were doctor that night protecting MagnaofIllusion wouldn't have come to me either. She's not on the top of my town list, but she's on there."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
LynchMePls wrote:@DARLA
Don't dodge this again.LynchMePls wrote: @Darla: List 3 players who are scum and why.@DARLA: LIST 3 PLAYERS WHO ARE SCUM AND WHY.
Maybe 3rd time will be a charm?"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Who exactly would your death implicate and why?DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Meh. I am to the point of agreeing with you that someone dying is the only way for town to advance. Ideally it would be nice to not have to self-sacrifice or let the town lose another townie for that to happen, but my death will clearly implicate a few people I suppose. That would be pro-town in and of itself. I can go down a hero! (lawl.)
Also, ignore this if you've since done it, since I haven't fully read up, but:
@DARLA: NAME THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE SCUM AND WHY!
You still fail to comply with this, but you act puzzled why we don't think you are town. Also, if you are town, your opinions here could be VITALLY important. The only reluctance I could understand from you on this matter is if you are scum and you don't want to buss buddies or make contrived arguments. Dragging your feet on this has pretty much made it useless, but I still want an answer."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
What's wrong is that this isn't what happened.Saint wrote:Frick, I'm OCDing myself into this game.
Someone tell me what's wrong with this picture.
*Parama is being called Extremely Town by everyone. (okay, what's wrong other than that)
*DBE claims to have passed the Doctor to Parama.
*Parama wants to die Today, specifically by the Virus.
Also, the Virus PM is confusingly worded and I do not think there is a set upper limit on posts before it explodes regardless of how long someone has held it.
It should only explode after the number of posts listed IF it's not handed off.
I definitely believe that the number of posts between message retrieval and potato handoff are counted off of the total timer - when we got it the timer was at 75.
And it CAN be passed between scumpartners. For some reason I'm not sure if that was mentioned at all during the hoopla D1.
Darla claims to have PROTECTED Parama last night, not passed him the Doc."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I have to agree with WC here. I think that Darla is trying to paint Parama guilty by association because she knows her lynch is inevitable. The refusal to answer my very simple request of 3 scummy players + reasons while engaging in all this talk about who she targeted for protection is scummy as hell. Call it the cherry on the top of the Darla-is-scum sundae."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
There was a couple of little holidays that fell in here, you might have heard of them. They're called Christmas and New Years. Some of us weren't available for mafia during that time.Saint wrote:I skipped ahead just for you, and I'm willing to buy some temporary leave due to other games, but from December 22 all the way to January 6 (two weeks)? And you were literally incapable of posting anything convincing until then?
For instance, you point out that "Only shows up around Page 20", as though there is a scummy reason for this, when the simple truth is that I was V/LA over that time, and had announced it clearly to the mod and in the thread."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
QFT. Her play was scummy as hell. What exactly was scummy about me pushing for her death?Wrath Child wrote:Lynchmepls... pushed really hard for the DBE bomb."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
It ended in a misvig where we gained almost 0 information we couldn't have gained from regular voting, not to mention a large amount of time spent debating the actual use of the vigging. diddin just shooting someone would have both a) gotten the flip earlier giving us more time to discuss it's ramifications and b) given us a LOT of information about diddin (assuming he would explain his shot).Saint wrote:Actually,diddincan answer that same question.
And because I'm in a posting mood.
LynchMePlz 847 wrote:Taking the vig and then using that terrible "we'll do it democratically" shit is terrible. Did you see how it ended yesterday? Dayvig's should take the best shot they can, and then accept the consequences of their action. Voting on the dayvig is TERRIBLE.Please tell me how that vig shot ended D1, because it looked quite a bit like it was used as a second lynch - exactly as diddin advertised.
Saying that majority-rule dayvigging is a bad idea is a matter of opinion, but making it sound like ascummything to suggest is out of place.
In a word, it ended terribly.
Could you please put new names onto quotes if you are going to quote me, and then quote other people? Some may think these are all quotes from me.Cut.[/i][/color]
1) In this instance I posted a defence, true, but to label all my posting as either defending myself or trying to preserve the status quo is a blatant misrepresentation. Point in case: Back at the beginning of January when very few people had so much as mentioned Powerrox and certainly no one had voted him in any seriousness I made a case for his lynch and placed the first vote on what became the lynch of the day. If that is posting to maintain the status quo then you have a very warped definition of status quo.Could you provide another example? Leading a lynch on a village idiot isn't exactly a claim to fame.
thing is, how can you - if you are actually town - honestly condemn someone for doing something you are also guilty of.Not everyone plays perfect games. Also, motivation.
You have a proof positive exampleof a townie (yourself)committing exactly the same act which makes that act, at the very least, a nulltell.Why thank you~
His sudden willingness to vote AntB back during day 1 coming out of nowhere was scummy.Being willing to vote someone without saying whywith no threat of a lynchis a scummy move now? Without looking back through the QT I'm not sure if I was the one who gave him the idea that AntB was scummy, but I can certainly vouch for encouraging him here.
experienced Vi is calling TMH town despite a preponderance of scumminessAnd I was even kind enough to say why. Oh, you're not going to bother with that, are you?
In the absence of a flip on either this point is the weakest, but given that I strongly read TMH as scum - as in, I'd be personally banging in the nails at his crucifixion if I didn't think we owed it to ourselves to at least try and keep the dayvig power and attempt to take both him and the stump out tomorrow - I think it's at least a little valid. Hint: TMH is the reason I most think you'll lose that little bet.
Vote SaintSomeone, anyone. Spot the contradiction in motives in this quote.
Cut again.
nhammen- Consider that if diddin is scum, you just gave him license to throw the dayvig to a partner instead. If diddin is Town, you just gave him license to give it to someone who might not be Town."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I have a few mixed emotions on this. For one, I like that he took the shot himself. Of course I was screaming my head off about how taking the shot by himself was townie, so now there is a giant wall of wifom around that. On the other hand, he seems to want to try and weasel out of the results by suggesting that it was still semi-democratic. See this quote:Saint wrote:LynchMePls wrote:
It ended in a misvig where we gained almost 0 information we couldn't have gained from regular voting, not to mention a large amount of time spent debating the actual use of the vigging. diddin just shooting someone would have both a) gotten the flip earlier giving us more time to discuss it's ramifications and b) given us a LOT of information about diddin (assuming he would explain his shot).Saint wrote:LynchMePlz 847 wrote:Taking the vig and then using that terrible "we'll do it democratically" shit is terrible. Did you see how it ended yesterday? Dayvig's should take the best shot they can, and then accept the consequences of their action. Voting on the dayvig is TERRIBLE.Please tell me how that vig shot ended D1, because it looked quite a bit like it was used as a second lynch - exactly as diddin advertised.
Saying that majority-rule dayvigging is a bad idea is a matter of opinion, but making it sound like ascummything to suggest is out of place.
In a word, it ended terribly.All fair enough, but was itscummythat TMH (or diddin before him) suggested a Democratic Day Dos Dayvig?
For that matter, since TMH shot the way you wanted him to, what do you get from that?
So which is it, did you take matters in your own hands, or did you do it because there were alot of other people who wanted him dead?themanhimself wrote:I count somewhere around five people who wanted parama dead plus me, the game was stalling and he was being unhelpful so I took it into my own hands"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
Why is he not getting lynched?Saint wrote:LynchMePls wrote:I like my vote where it is. I have nothing new to say.You're voting someone who's not going to get lynched and making no effort to change that?"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
You really have no idea what I'm talking about?I Am Innocent wrote:Yes this is very odd considering LynchMePls's ability he is referencing was one that Pops/DGBall most likely had prior."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey
I did not have such an ability.I Am Innocent wrote:DGBall, did you have an ability N2 that would send the virus to a player D3?
LynchMe, did you have an ability N3 that would send the virus to a player D4?
For Pops, did you have to send the virus to a player D2, or was that optional?
For DGBall/LynchMe, if the answer above is yes, did you have to send the virus to a player the next day?"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
V/LA on weekends-
-
LimMePls Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3577
- Joined: May 4, 2010
- Location: New Jersey