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we're pretty much v/la until mina goes back to canada as mafia is boring in comparison to alcohol (imo)Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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also everyone should unvote cooldog because i said so (he's quite obviously town)Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Vote AV
Let's vote for one of the scum/shit players voting cooldog.
(also he has a wagon)
(sheep me I'm fucking great)Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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ALSO MINA HAS TOLD ME SHE FEELS CONFIDENT OF SHADOWEH'S ALIGNMENT
I REPEAT SHE FEELSCONFIDENT
NOT THAT SHE IS SHADOWEH'S ALT
NOT THATMafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Tammy is town, Zdenek. Your argument with her was fucking dumb. It better not be still happening.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1497, Zdenek wrote:In post 1492, Lost Butterfly wrote:ALSO MINA HAS TOLD ME SHE FEELS CONFIDENT OF SHADOWEH'S ALIGNMENT
I REPEAT SHE FEELSCONFIDENT
NOT THAT SHE IS SHADOWEH'S ALT
NOT THAT
And that alignment would be?
(it's a joke)
(MOI asked if Shadoweh was a Mina alt)Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1495, Junpei wrote:Hello Faraday, what's your read on Mastermind of Sin, and your opinions on his interaction with Tammy and myself? They're on recent pages, if you don't know.
Are you planning to read the whole thread?
MOS is probably town based on the early game I read. Don't have any opinion on his interactions with you or Tammy, don't really care as Tammy and him are probs both town.
Why would I not read the full thread? That'd be anti town - it's also pretty obvious I've at least been following along from my few posts so far. I'm V/la till Monday, though. I'll probably just keep posting and let Mina catch up in next Tuesday/Wednesday. Conferring in person is anti social.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1500, Pine wrote:Can't find it? Like I said, it's after the first quote of 1413.
In post 1413, Zdenek wrote:The scum factions both get NK's so I have a hard time swallowing this as a reason to not use your ability to check claims.
That is a hard core scumslip right there. Town DID NOT KNOW that both scumteams got kills every night. Hell, I was assuming they didn't, as that's pretty unbalanced. But hey, this is an experimental setup, so I'll forgive the mod that mistake, even though it's probably going to result in a scum win.
making set-up assumptions isn't a 'scumslip'. wow. also I assumed they could kill every night and I should know seacore's mod meta pretty well so.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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I don't remember a lot from him.
Did he claim early?
I should read him, regfan says he's easy to read.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1524, Lord Mhork wrote:What do you think of that possible slip CooLDoG just brought up about how Pine didn't seem to consider the possibility of Chaotic Evil messing with his night action?
I'll take 'not a slip, but something that's fairly obvious', for 200.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1547, CooLDoG wrote:@all, I ask you this: Would town claim a power role with one vote on them? Would town refuse to use their power role optimally even after it has been explained countless times how it is best used? Would town lurk all of day one, only coming out when his name was called?
sure?
Pine will take care of himself.Pine: Cooldog is town, get your vote off of him
could the people on the cooldog wagon explain why they're voting him?
When's deadline? I can't really read the full thread till Monday.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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(Also Pine's claim makes sense within the realms of the set-up. We'll realise eventually due to SET-UP SPEC if he's a cop anyway. People really shouldn't be voting him.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1490, Lost Butterfly wrote:also everyone should unvote cooldog because i said so (he's quite obviously town)
BUMP
this hasn't happened yetMafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1557, mastin2 wrote:So my last post here was on page 56. And I've yet to do my work. (I've...been...busy. Largely doing the research which I've barely been able to use so far. )
I was intending to do, well, basically, a logical read on every player, with posts covering their play throughout the game. Not a standard TOWN SCUM NULL list from me, nor a run-through-the-playerlist-on-the-first-page-and-maybe-give-some-quick-reasoning-list. (You know, the <-- lists.) But a legitimate, honest, full-blown actual real logic (there's a difference between giving reasoning and giving logic ) post on all the players. (Something I've missed doing. I've given reasoning on players, but I've not given actual logic in nearly a year, to the point where I've got a reputation for being an illogical, irrational player. Not something to be proud of.)
...Mighta bitten off more than I can chew with that.
I'll give a quick summary, though. I've mostly been skimming the pages as of late, but more or less, I don't think my list will actually be changing that much. That is, with one exception--Pine.
I'll see if I can whip up better reasoning on him (preferably with good reasoning on the other key players today) later.
Sorry that my effort so far isn't working so well.
CooLDoG (6) - AurorusVox, Empking, trekker, Shadow1psc, Moneybags, mastin2
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In post 1157, BBmolla wrote:Why are people reading me when I haven't posted anything substancial except for the obvious?
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In post 1570, Faraday wrote:AV ignoring cooldog being obvtown is SCUMMY
I agree!Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Yeah, Tammy's obvtown.
@Pine: Because I said so. Also his very first post where he started discussing 4 possible town teams or something (idr the exact details) is an obvious town tell and anyone saying different is super wrong. Also I'm pretty good at mafia and my gut reads are generally quite accurate. Pretty please?Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Shadoweh can you fake suspect me a little bit? I get the feeling I'm going to get nightkilledMafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Zdenek's obvtown too.
I'm making a list (Mina's checking it twice), we're gonna find out who's naughty or nice (or lawful or chaotic).Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1636, Shadoweh wrote:It doesn't make sense to me for a townie to forget that they thought someone was scummy, and not understand why someone else would find them scummy enough to investigate. The change would make sense from someone making up his feelings as he's going along and sensing a weakness in the 'fake cop'.
that seems pretty null to me? Don't think scum are more likely to forget.
Zdenek's a bit more robotic as scum, anyway. He gets more engaged as town and hisd argument with Tammy looked pretty townish. Multi scum makes it tricky but even so.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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That's not how playing scum works. (At least not if you're semi competent). Especially in a game with another scum faction.
Should you be bantering with me when you suspect/ed my slot, though? I must admit I am perturbedMinaShadoweh.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Hi. Re-read the first 5 pages.
Av looks sorta town from it. Skenvoy looks super town. BBmolla wagon is probably dumb.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1780, Mastermind of Sin wrote:In post 1778, Lost Butterfly wrote:Hi. Re-read the first 5 pages.
Av looks sorta town from it. Skenvoy looks super town. BBmolla wagon is probably dumb.
Wrong. BBmolla lurked, got called out on it, OMGUS'd his accuser, then went back to lurking. He's just trying to sit back until the heat goes away. Obvscum play.
Seems pretty null. (Also Mina totes said Skenvoy is town and she's sitting right beside me)Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1793, Mastermind of Sin wrote:In post 1788, AurorusVox wrote:That's a flimsy excuse. If it's PINE'S role, PINE should have thought how to best use it.
He should have at least realised that it's vital for scum to lie about their ethics, especially given the discussions in the pre-crash thread.
Who actually read the pre-crash thread? LoL...
Skenvoy aka BBmolla got confirmed town there by the moderator. Sorry!Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1791, Shadoweh wrote:>_>
So the argument against lynching Mhork so far is that he looks like scum.
Great argument 10/10. Why are the rest of you not wanting to lynch Mhork?
Make a persuasive (read: funny) argument.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1810, Lost Butterfly wrote:In post 1793, Mastermind of Sin wrote:In post 1788, AurorusVox wrote:That's a flimsy excuse. If it's PINE'S role, PINE should have thought how to best use it.
He should have at least realised that it's vital for scum to lie about their ethics, especially given the discussions in the pre-crash thread.
Who actually read the pre-crash thread? LoL...
Skenvoy aka BBmolla got confirmed town there by the moderator. Sorry!
^ this might be slightly stretching the truth of what happened but skenvoy definitely postedMafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1852, TiphaineDeath wrote:that last post convinced me you are town, I need to rethink my scumlist, get back to ya'll.
who the fuck are you? you can be town anyway I guess as this is a pretty cool postMafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Anyway my V/la is over and stuff but
I'll get to this when I'm less tired. Mina will too. Probs.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1873, Haze wrote:Jesus guys how many days have we got till Lynch?
I wish people woudl stop randomly calling others obvtown.
I wish we could all agree on a lynch.
The Pine lynch is by far the best one. None of his actions make sense.
AVox has been avoiding the thread. Tammy is doing as she has been doing from the start of teh game. Being scummy. But nobody wants to see that.
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In post 1911, chesskid3 wrote:then again BBMOLLA is avoiding this thread soooooooooo
skenvoy totes matched my thought process for the first 5 pages so idk
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Ah. Ooba has no posts. Wtf. Oh LMP was townish I guess. Cool town chesskid.
Ugh. There are like 10 people I don't think I've read a post from. TOMORROW.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1914, Junpei wrote:In post 1913, Lost Butterfly wrote:skenvoy totes matched my thought process for the first 5 pages so idk
Sigh... I don't understand how you don't realize why that means absolutely nothing, especially in this game.
Oh, sorry. I've never played multi scum before. Maybe you could explain the basics to me?Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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do you have a read on bbmolla or is this just THEORY DISCUSSIONMafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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jesus christ. your iso is literally disgusting junpei. instead of trying to lecture me go fucking do something. yes this game is pretty terrible but who gives a fuck.
I don't even know who you replace so NO READ ON SLOT lol ._.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3946663
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p3946936
fyi those on pine are voting with THIS GUY WHO'S POSTS I LINKED. INCEPTION MAFIA.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 1900, Pine wrote:Not going to get my brizingre lynch, looks like. AV and I are both Town, so not supporting that. MoS has good points on BB.
I could vote him based on what I've read. Sum up notable stuff in the thread or just link to posts. I'm sure we can get a wagon if we use enough rhetoric, Pine.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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I've been sensible and logical? I guess I'm not trying hard enough.
Zdenek do you disagree with the list? I'm aware of your argument with Tammy, even accounting for multi scum I don't find her likely to be scum based on meta. Both heads of the hydra have played with her before and I've only seen one thing that gives me pause about her, which is pretty little in the grand scheme of things. I.e. who non tammy don't you like?Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Shadow why is cooldog scum? I forget and stuff, refresh my memory.
Them reasons for voting BBmolla certainly are reasons. They just happen to be pretty poor ones, oh well.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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And Tammy's usually easyish to read, not for me in particular since I find her emotional play rather boring after a while but run a few votes on her and she flips the fuck out as town, most of the time - she has a hard time faking it as scum. Mina was quite confident in the read and I trust her ability to read Tammy + my own thinking she was town makes me feel pretty good.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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ugh this is annoying i have a fucking fever.
zdenek: what do you think of shadoweh backing off the read on zar? you said you found tammy scummy for it - given that she was involved in the conflict it makes more sense for her to re-evaluate and stuff. i don't like the fact that shadoweh's post was just basically bantering with a previous top suspect. I mean it's probably to do with the fact i'm super but even still.
did mastin post his long post yet. he's been posting elsewhere. this game has a deadline and his modded game is over now. you can leave new york for a while.Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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In post 627, Shadoweh wrote:I wonder how many other people look at this thread, see a page filled with Norman and look away. <_<
Why would a Bard have the ability to detect alignment? The only classes that have alignment detection are Clerics and Paladins. I really want to hate the claim. Thinking about how the setup works though, It's not really possible to fakeclaim Lawful or Chaotic alignment detecting without making yourself caught scum. Because we haven't mass-claimed alignments, scum would have a 50-50 shot of getting it wrong every time. There was no reason to out yourself like that if you're telling the truth Pine, there are two huge wagons and neither of them are on you. :/
Does it fit with DnD flavour to have Pine be some sort of scum detector? I only ask because you weirdly ignore this posibility when the role actually does kind of make more sense as a scum role (it's sort of useless for town, tbh)Mafiascum Fantasy Camp 2 - Day 7 ongoing-
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Also, I'd be surprised if seacore didn't have both teams killing every night tbh. We shall see.
Shadoweh is kind of scummy.
Cooldog is really town
I have a weird gut town read on trekker, though he'd probably troll like a spastic regardless but eh.
Y u no scum are slightly town for like one post very early on.
LMP looks townish
Still think Zdenek looks townish.
Less sold on ML scum with his posts in this thread - still found his posts in the other one bad
Shadow1 is also kinda scummy but his posts seem to be improving
i've no fucking idea how to read empking
mos is useless
greenknight is meh
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In post 804, Shadoweh wrote:You aren't.
##Unvote
##Vote: Foxace
List of scumreads = mediocre. The majority of them are people who at different points wanted you lynched. I'm willing to believe this is refuge in audacity seeing how well it worked for Norman. Basically the only wagon right now I think has a chance of being scum.
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