Good vs Evil, Law vs Chaos Reboot - Game Over, Good wins

[TiphaineDeath]

BB wagon is still absolutely horrible.

[Empking]

T5

[Empking]

The BB wagon wasn't always horrible but it now.

Unvote, Vote; Nacho

[TiphaineDeath]

empking, if your gonna jump off of BB jump on briz!

[Mastermind of Sin]

BB wagon is still absolutely horrible.

Why?

[TiphaineDeath]

Cause the case on him is rediculous, having had town roleblocker b4 and having been lynched for it. Watching it happen to someone else is rediculous. I still don't see anything other than having that role that he has done scummy.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Cause the case on him is rediculous, having had town roleblocker b4 and having been lynched for it. Watching it happen to someone else is rediculous. I still don't see anything other than having that role that he has done scummy.

So...your argument is that because you got lynched as a town roleblocker once that everyone who claims roleblocker should be sympathized with if people want to lynch them?

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>.<

[TiphaineDeath]

no, my argument is that because I have been lynched as town roleblocker I do not see being a roleblocker as a reason to be lynched on its own merits.

I see a roleblocker claim more as a neutral than anything else, and since other than his roleblock claim I don't see any good reasons to kill him, I do not see a good reason to kill him.

[Pine]

That is NOT what the actual case is. Read the thread.

[Empking]

empking, if your gonna jump off of BB jump on briz!

Was never on BB (today).

[chesskid3]

how often do scum rbers
claim rber

[TiphaineDeath]

Yeah what he said!

Pine, I have seen lots of walls on BB, I've seen lots of moderatly useless back and forth.

Give me a three sentance summary of this "case" of yours.

[mastin2]

I don't really remember my Nacho read. But...

Nachomamma8 (4) - chesskid3, Zdenek, BBmolla, Lost Butterfly

...With a wagon like this, I can tell you it definitely makes me want to say he's town.

how often do scum rbers
claim rber

More often than they claim to be either JKs or VTs, even.

Yes, really. In current site meta, RBers are ~48/52 town/scum or so (heck if I know the exact number; it's not *quite* 50/50, but it's CLOSE to even distribution), combined with people saying the above lines, means scum rarely fear claiming RB as much as they used to a couple years ago.

/sleep. Might get to this game tomorrow.

[Pine]

BB was evasive about his roleblock claim.

Also whoever is actually roleblocking Pine is stupid as hell, there's no point in blocking him.

If he were actually a Town roleblocker, the other person wouldn't be "stupid as hell," they'd be scum.

He's been lurky and opportunistic, which plays to his scum meta, so far as I know it.

There. That's three succinct sentences.

[TiphaineDeath]

interesting UNVOTE: I gotta think about this.

[Pine]

Seriously? That's been the basis of the case for some time now. Your willful ignorance is discouraging.

[Haze]

Eh.

I'd like Briz to hang as well, TD, but I think it's rather obvious that BB is the priority at the moment.

Not sure where the Nacho case is...

[CooLDoG]

How appealing a trekker/nacho lynch is, but BB/Pine is tons tons better.

Pine answer my question. Do you even know what your role does? You do know that you are not a cop in the traditional sense of the word right? And you also know that you can't catch scum by just investigating them right?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Yeah what he said!

Pine, I have seen lots of walls on BB, I've seen lots of moderatly useless back and forth.

Give me a three sentance summary of this "case" of yours.

Wow...this makes me really uncomfortable. This post SCREAMS platitudes to me. I'd say that my attacks on BB have been anything *but* walls, and as someone who first called him out and made the case, it sounds like TD is hiding behind "walls are confusing/useless/etc" as an excuse for not agreeing with the case against BB.

Not to mention that Pine's "case summary" was pretty terrible and very unconvincing, yet all of a sudden

that

was what convinced TD to want to think about things further?

I think we've found our lynch for tomorrow.

[chesskid3]

I mean the Nacho case is a comination of
Nacho is a good player and is VERY capable of being obvtown
and instead he's lurking his fucking ass off and being shady

[Regfan]

I strongly disagree. A town PR wouldn't try to get someone to confirm him. He'd merely claim his target and leave it be, because he'd KNOW that he roleblocked the person. BBmolla felt more like he was not sure whether or not AV would counter his claim (because he didn't actually block him!).

See, this is where I disagree. As a roleblocker who has people pushing for your lynch the ultimate aim is to confirm your ability and usage of it as town and as scum as well, this means that him stating that AV can possibly 'confirm' him is a null tell and really nothing more than that and the amount of weight people have been putting behind the "He wanted to be confirmed, rolefishing!" thing is astounding and makes me think there's likely scum on the wagon.

I'd like Briz to hang as well, TD, but I think it's rather obvious that BB is the priority at the moment.

Okay. Why is BB mafia and why is he a priority, you didn't vote him yesterday so you can't say 'scummy claim!'. And if Briz needs to hang, vote her.

@Pine -

Shadows soft-claim of a town-result on you right now is one of the few things holding me back from considering to push on you. If you're town read the fucking thread, state some reads and don't just say "This game is bad" or "I want to use ability tonight!" because neither of them give us anything to work with.

@Zdenek -

Tammys playstyle drives a lot of people crazy, including myself. She's not scum though and you need to lay of her and focus elsewhere more.

@MoS -

Tiph is town, I'd bet near anything on it.

@Fararapist -

ETA on the Mina post? Also join me on Briz, please.

[Lost Butterfly]

No ETA on a Mina post! Possibly never? I don't know.

[Lost Butterfly]

I think we've found our lynch for tomorrow.

yeah the guy who replaced norman is obvscum

[Lost Butterfly]

...With a wagon like this, I can tell you it definitely makes me want to say he's town.

elaborate on this more with specifics and all that. we'll ignore the fact that in multi scum this is literally the most stupid fucking argument anyone can make for the purpose of this exercise

[Regfan]

No ETA on a Mina post! Possibly never? I don't know.

What did you do with her.

Hassle her to post for me please!

Also my current reads;

[Town]

Tammy - Tiph - Zdenek - Chesskid - Cooldog - BBmolla - Money - Pine - MoS ------ Empking -- Shadow1 -- Nacho [Junpei - Haze - AVox]- Feysal - LB ----- Pere --- Mastin ----- Briz -

[Scum]