Disney Villains Mafia: Game Over

[Klick]

VOTE: UN

why not

[Klick]

Hi! How are you?

[Klick]

Actually, you're wrong. I don't want to go into role speculation, but there are two roles off the top of my head that could give him reason for his suspicion.

However, you're discouraging a harmless bandwagon in RVS which could be used to generate discussion, AND giving possible UN-scum a cop-out.

VOTE: rapidcanyon

PEdit: Just making sure, you're being sarcastic, right rofl?

[Klick]

Have you played with Matt before, rofl?

[Klick]

I'm saying that if UN is scum, you gave him a reaction to use instead of coming up with his own.

PEdit: @Matt: Secret for now, but I'll reveal it sometime. A few here know me, including UN.

@rofl: What I'm trying to say is ballsy gambits is his thing.

[Klick]

Ironically, the one I have is of a town game of yours. Game of the Year, where you fakeclaimed Cop correctly.

[Klick]

So? What if he's scum?

[Klick]

Oh, I know, Matt.

[Klick]

Llama, there are worse people than Umbrage in this game.

[Klick]

In the player sense.

[Klick]

Really how many other people intentionally play against thier win condition?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22599

[Klick]

Yeah, but did it have a pro-town purpose?

PEdit: Llama, I was in that game. In fact, I replaced him.

[Klick]

Vote to replace Umbrage

[Klick]

Well, thanks again, Salamence. Ruining reactions everywhere.

[Klick]

I'm sorry if I've offended you anywhere, Salamence. I have nothing personal against you.

[Klick]

I'm sorry if I've offended you anywhere, Salamence. I have nothing personal against you.

[Klick]

UN, you understand me. :3

[Klick]

Matt, I want you to show me the town case on rapidcanyon.

VOTE: Jake

[Klick]

Matt, just so you know, you skipped this guy on your list.

Also, VC incoming.

[Klick]

Hi

[Klick]

VOTE: ShadowGirl lolwagon until I feel the need to put effort into this

[Klick]

ShadowGirl, can you give me the exact wording of your role PM?

[Klick]

I'm pretty sure role-names aren't included in that.

@Mod: Are they?

[Klick]

LOL bad wording. I meant to say role name.

[Klick]

i know how you feel man

[Klick]

ShadowGirl's probably lying.

Every game that GNR has run that has one, it's been named "Jailkeeper".

[Klick]

To add onto my accusation, it's not particularly damning, as my sample size is newbie games and an Open game. However, I still find it to be telling.

[Klick]

You caught that yourself, AV?

[Klick]

Oh.

That works too.

You should have just gone with my reasoning for yourself.

[Klick]

@pidgey: The answer to your question is pretty obvious.

[Klick]

This is fun stuff

Matt, I'm obvious town to you now, right?

god people stop posting

[Klick]

VOTE: rapidcanyon totally cool with this.

[Klick]

Eidolon, just go with it.

[Klick]

EIDOLON TAKE A HINT

[Klick]

Hey rofl. You should do something that lets me (or anyone) be able to tell your alignment.

[Klick]

GNR, it's obvious. You're making it difficult.

[Klick]

Kay, pidgey is his buddy

[Klick]

Lol.

pidgey, youve played with me multiple games.

Almost everything I do is not how I really feel and is just a way to get reactions from other players.

But nice to scum claim that you are probably his partner, nice touch to suspect me back as quickly as you can without even checking my interactions qith said slot! Good job bro!

[Klick]

You obviously haven't played with me as much as you think.

[Klick]

I'm an Awesome Townie ^.^

What about rapidcanyon/Shah?

PEdit: No comment on my attack?

[Klick]

shotgun i already asked that

[Klick]

Lol.

pidgey, youve played with me multiple games.

Almost everything I do is not how I really feel and is just a way to get reactions from other players.

But nice to scum claim that you are probably his partner, nice touch to suspect me back as quickly as you can without even checking my interactions qith said slot! Good job bro!

The fact that I was imitating you here while attacking the post I was imitating should tell you something about why you looked scummy.

YOU HAVE TO GO DEEPER

[Klick]

But he already claimed that

[Klick]

Actually, if it's 1-shot, I want him to claim it.

[Klick]

Actually, if it's 1-shot, I want him to claim it.

[Klick]

No, since it's a used one-shot, I want him to claim what exactly the ability was.

[Klick]

What the fuck happened?

rc, at this rate, you'll probably be modkilled.

@UN: I'm not scum

This will be my last post until Saturday.

FIN

[Klick]

Hmm.

If rc doesn't get lynched for some reason, assume both him and Salamence are scum.

[Klick]

UN THEN ROFL THEN LLAMA

GAME

I support this completely, except I still see pidgey-scum as possible.

I'ma read up.

[Klick]

I was talking about the list, not specifically the order.

VOTE: rofl

He's probably close to L-1.

[Klick]

Kay I think Sal was the hammer

[Klick]

I think the two possible NKs are obvious.

[Klick]

Kay yeah, Salamence townread reinforced

[Klick]

I meant because of this UN:

Ill do rereads tomorrow.

Hopefully we just won and this is over.

[Klick]

Oh.

Then obviously, the next logical question is: Why should I?

[Klick]

Umbrage, Sal is obvious town because he thinks there's one scum left.

[Klick]

But it's incredibly obvious that there's not 3 scum in this 17-player game, especially with the PRs that have flipped.

[Klick]

Oh, I thought pidgey was voting rofl.

[Klick]

GNR, stay on, pidgey's about to hammer.

[Klick]

Alright, it's cool

[Klick]

Oh, pidgey left.

[Klick]

Why were you okay with having the hammer earlier, but now feel the need to give the others time?

[Klick]

I can confirm rofl's claim, but I'm not convinced that it makes him town.

[Klick]

so that Umbrage is happy

[Klick]

This is hilarious.

Llama's claim is obviously either true or a bus. Therefore, rofl is scum.

Matt is even more clearly town after what just happened.

Salamence is also flailing like crazy, but I'm not really sure it makes him scum.

[Klick]

Probably true. I like the claim.

[Klick]

Umbrage, Sal is obvious town because he thinks there's one scum left.

Even moreso now that it's known that he was wrong in the amount of scum there were.

[Klick]

I want a massclaim.

[Klick]

I'm claiming last.

Umbrage, popcorn sound like a good way to do it?

[Klick]

I personally enjoy thinking.

UN, if you get in here, will you claim?

[Klick]

I don't want any more votes cast until everyone has claimed.

[Klick]

I personally enjoy thinking.

UN, if you get in here, will you claim?

SCUM

no

[Klick]

Is there anything in common between Madam Mim, Ursula, and Gaston?

[Klick]

Meh. I thought I had a reason for wanting to claim last, but if I did, I forgot it.

Governor Ratcliffe, Vanilla Townie.

PEdit: No, I just want to know what the common theme is, if any.

[Klick]

You just realized that?

[Klick]

I kinda thought I was a Governor when I opened it at first

[Klick]

Refraining from answering until the massclaim is done.

[Klick]

Matt, wait until massclaim before going any further or explaining anything.

[Klick]

When UN and pidgey come in, the game will be cracked.

[Klick]

Just so you guys know, my suspect has already claimed.

[Klick]

Salamence, all will be revealed soon.

Matt I know you see it but let me have the glory.

[Klick]

No the thing about the conftown.

[Klick]

Yeah, but I wanted massclaim to assure there were no shenanigans involved that would throw holes in that.

[Klick]

Thanks.

And now..... we wait.

[Klick]

Oh shit, can't tell if Llama saw it too or if those were real reads. He probably did, and if so, I'd say it gives him major town points.

Llama, when the massclaim finishes, would you mind explaining your reads on UN and pidgey?

[Klick]

But (don't kill me please) I have reason to think it's Umbrage.

[Klick]

Look, Matt:

Me, pidgey and UN are clear

I'm pretty fucking positive you're town

and I've already explained a thousand times why Salamence is town.

That leaves Llama and Umbrage.

I had a huge townread on Umbrage too. Actually, yesterday, he was my strongest townread. But I've got paranoia today, and I think it may even have reasoning.

Hear me out when the other two claim.

PEdit:

Umbrage, Llama, {huge gap} Sal, you.

[Klick]

At the very least Llama can't die today. He can investigate Umbrage tomorrow.

[Klick]

(or you)

[Klick]

Calm my paranoid soul and annoy me about it when the game's over and you were right.

[Klick]

Matt, it's an autowin if Llama isn't lynched today. Don't lose it because you feel confident in a read in autowin.

[Klick]

Deal

[Klick]

You're forgetting that a Godfather is possible.

[Klick]

@Matt: I was talking about myself.

@Umbrage: Fuck that shit, he's been calling Sal obvtown this whole time

[Klick]

Kay, I'm sure pidgey/UN will agree to vote Sal.

PEdit: UMBRAGE GETS IT NOW

[Klick]

He wasn't on in the time between the kill and the daystart

[Klick]

Salamence, you realize you trying to get out of it means that you pretty much have to be the lynch even though you're incredibly obvious town, right?

[Klick]

Ah yeah that was fun stuff

[Klick]

SALAMENCE IT'S A FUCKING AUTOWIN PUT YOUR PRIDE IN A FUCKING DITCH

Look what you did, you made me get my mean voice out.

[Klick]

We're not lynching yet.

[Klick]

Matt if you hammer Sal now you're claiming scum

[Klick]

Umbrage Sal was already town, we knew that, we're lynching for the autowin

[Klick]

Fine. You know what, Matt? Let's make a deal.

If Llama flips town, you self-vote tomorrow and demand your own lynch. Afterward, Umbrage gets lynched.

I'm fine with this because I feel it guarantees a town victory.

[Klick]

No Umbrage, stay for this.

[Klick]

At least one person is playing against their wincon right now.

[Klick]

THANK YOU UN

Any of the following lynches result in an autowin:

Sala
Umbrage
Matt

@Llama/UN/pidgey: Are you three willing to lynch any of those three?

[Klick]

UN just answer the question, we'll win if all of you say yes

[Klick]

Sala, Llama-scum has 0% chance of winning the game even if he isn't lynched today. I am proposing that he be lynched tomorrow.

[Klick]

MATT, COMMON SENSE MY ASS

IF YOU'RE TOWN YOU'RE BLATANTLY PLAYING AGAINST AUTOWIN

[Klick]

Autowin vs. Non-autowin

Said scumread gets lynched in either scenario

Yeah, against wincon

[Klick]

Matt, the fucking problem is, this discussion has convinced me that both Salamence and Umbrage are definitely town, moreso than you, and I doubt you're retarded enough to actually do the only thing that possibly allows you a scum victory as town.

Umbrage, you're lynching Matt if Llama and Salamence turn out town. Get that committed to memory.

[Klick]

UN are you retarded?

[Klick]

UN

It

is

autowin

if

Llama

isn't

lynched

today

[Klick]

UMBRAGE UNVOTE NOW

[Klick]

Hah. Scum caught.

Matt, as scum, you need Llama lynched today to win. Otherwise, as I've been saying this WHOLE FUCKING TIME, it's autowin.

VOTE: MattP

[Klick]

UN, compromise on switching Matt with Llama?

[Klick]

...

FUCK I'M RETARDED

I DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR A GODFATHER

VOTE: Llama

IF THIS IS WRONG, I SHOULD BE LYNCHED TOMORROW, THEN MATTP IN LYLO

Umbrage vote Llama again

[Klick]

I was accounting for the last scum not being a Godfather. If it wasn't, this would be autowin.

[Klick]

UN...

Go sit in the corner.

[Klick]

GOOD FUCKING NIGHT EVERYONE

[Klick]

I SAID GOOD NIGHT

[Klick]

UN, I'm extremely impressed by you this game, regardless of alignment.

[Klick]

It literally can't be anyone but Matt (or Llama). Pidgey's definitely town, I'm not willing to believe that Umbrage or Salamence tricked me this hard, and if we seriously falsely cleared UN we're screwed anyway.

[Klick]

Salamence if you can seriously scum it this awesomely you're earning my policy list for life

But if you're town I think we've bonded a little

[Klick]

I think we've bonded a little

[Klick]

VOTE: MattP

[Klick]

Not a chance.

[Klick]

It was midnight.

And I still stand by it.

[Klick]

Kay

VOTE: Klick

[Klick]

Because everyone else seemed town. Umbrage and Salamence are 100% town. UN might not be confirmed, but if he is scum, I'm willing to lose to him.

[Klick]

Matt, what's the point in the order, from either of our PoVs, if we're town?

[Klick]

UNVOTE:

Umbrage, vote me.

[Klick]

UN, don't be a dickwad. Vote Matt tomorrow. Umbrage and Salamence I can assure are town, and if not, I'll take complete blame for the loss.

There's a slight chance of UN being the last scum; he had his "Last Logged In" time turned off, so there was no way to completely confirm that he didn't get on. I just used the last time he posted for that, as he hadn't posted for ~three hours before the hammer on D3.

However, if UN is scum, the blame goes to MattP and myself. You ARE going to lynch Matt tomorrow.

Besides, UN's vote was probably some stupid reaction test.

PEdit: You didn't even read the post where I unvoted, did you? I'm planning on hammering myself.

[Klick]

Oh, I get it.

Matt's plan was to bring UN to LyLo and tell everyone that he wasn't actually confirmed. This would sound like such an unreasonable scum tactic that it would likely be taken as real.

PEdit: VOTE: Klick

Vengekill: Matt

Game.

[Klick]

Sure, it was fake.

[Klick]

Meh. Fine.

This game was unwinnable. There was no way I could have pulled off ANY lynch after Matt. Umbrage was town as fuck and UN was obviously faking his read on him. Sal was town as fuck. And no one would ever buy me clearing UN, only to unclear him for a mislynch later.

[Klick]

Yeah, but I thought I'd pulled off the AtE hard enough to get Umbrage to follow me anywhere. That kinda fell when I saw today.

[Klick]

Umbrage, what made you change your read on me from "never lynch ever" to "meh lynch him out of the three options today"?

[Klick]

Cutting this off now.

I'm town. I took time to read the thread. MattP's reaction was completely terrible.

UN is town, Umbrage/Sal. Lynch MattP as planned tomorrow.

UN, if you weren't sure before, you should be now. Umbrage is town.

Matt IS SCUM. KILL HIM TOMORROW.

I'm predicting an Umbrage kill tonight.

[Klick]

UN. MATT. IS. SCUM.

Sheep ME.

[Klick]

Heheh, it's too late. I was scum with UN this whole time.

This would be the best thing ever.

[Klick]

You know, besides a trolling Jester at endgame.

[Klick]

Matt, your plan is to make it look like you still see UN as town, and then vote him tomorrow after saying that you were trying to get him to cross with the other player left alive.

Am I right or am I right?

[Klick]

Matt, your plan is to make it look like you still see UN as town, and then vote him tomorrow after saying that you were trying to get him to cross with the other player left alive.

Am I right or am I right?

I was serious about this.

[Klick]

Kay Umbrage you can keep doing what you're doing but subconsciously note that Matt is the only one here posting things that are spewing towntells

That's a sign of him faking them.

[Klick]

God, Umbrage. You really fucked this up.

You weren't even this bad in the Neighbor QT.

[Klick]

Sal, Matt has a role that lets one person a night know he's confirmed town.

[Klick]

...well played.

[Klick]

No. That was a further reaction test.

I'm town, and I'm assuring that Matt is definitely scum.

[Klick]

VOTE: Matt

Umbrage, you kill Sal, I'll kill UN.

[Klick]

omg you got me

[Klick]

Cutting all the shit, Matt is seriously scum.

[Klick]

Sal, I'm actually being serious.

Matt is going to bring you to LyLo and try to convince you to lynch either Umbrage or UN.

YOU ARE GOING TO LYNCH MATT TOMORROW.

Understood?

[Klick]

I tried something similar to this in this game. I attempted to confuse PM to the point that he would screw up.

PEdit: No, he's not. I was lynched before all this shit happened.

[Klick]

Woo town win

Good job Sal ^.^

[Klick]

Matt, you did well, but kinda blew it by revealing the fact that pidgey was confirmed town.

I mean, I was going to anyway, but still.

[Klick]

UN's reads were wonderful. He did amazing in this game.

[Klick]

Matt, your reaction was terrible.

[Klick]

So, you guys are saying Sala played bad despite managing to wonderfully AtE on Day 4? That was pretty much the highlight of his play.

He played

good

. You actually can't argue with that.

[Klick]

That's fair, Llama. I'm just arguing against shotgun for not giving Sala credit where it's due.

That AtE was really impressive to me.

[Klick]

Actually, you didn't do that.