In post 498, Vi wrote:Attention Feysal: I actually think you're Town in this game. Please learn how not to make posts that scream "scum".
In post 501, Charlie wrote:Attention Feysal: I used to think you're Town in this game for a single post. I realize that is dated. Please continue to make posts that scream "scum" and let a wagon form on you for good reasons.
So, I have two players saying my posts scream scum, and yet neither is voting me, instead they believe or believed once I was town. Neither of them even mentions anything specific. If you are trying to confuse me, you're doing it right.
Whatever. I have something more important and interesting to look into, the war of walls between DJ and Rarity.
I started by reading both in isolation, and few things jumped at me I would not have noticed earlier. I could not find the town tell I thought I'd seen from DJ, but I'm inclined to believe her town anyway. Likewise, I did not see anything particularly damning from Rarity, and was left with the feeling she could be town, though the read was less strong.
Then I looked over Rarity's case, and that proved more interesting, and potentially revealing. I will start with the quotes.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 428, DJ P0n-3 wrote:If Godot wasn't too scummy, what's scummier about Arugula?
Specifically, what's scummy enough to switch off my wagon, which you've been more than content with riding the whole time?
Implying that something has to be scummier than her to switch wagons.
No. This is reaching at best, and outright dodging at worst. I don't see any such implication being important here. I see a direct question you have never answered, despite responding to this post twice.
In post 522, Rarity wrote:Completely IGNORES that I explained my reasoning in the very post she quoted.
You explained nothing. All you said was that Arugula replaced into a scummy slot, in apparent contradiction to yourself, since you went on to say that the slot was not too scummy before Arugula replaced in, and up to that point you had consistently called Godot town. Now, you could have been talking about how everyone else saw the slot as scummy rather than you, but that would be too generous. The bottom line is that you have never given any explanation whatsoever for your flip on Godot, despite your claims to the contrary.
In post 522, Rarity wrote:She also is confused as to how my reads can change so quickly when in the EXACT SAME POST SHE CLAIMS THAT HER READS CHANGED ON ME.
This I call blatant dodging. Whether or not DJ's read on you changed is irrelevant here, she wants to know why your read on Godot/Arugula changed, and you are refusing to explain. And you dare call DJ shameless.
In post 522, Rarity wrote:
What a coincidence! This response also happens to be even more useless! Way to superficially make your post-size larger in an attempt to appear like you are trying to provide content!
This is terrible. Calling attention to chamber posting fluff may not be the most useful thing to be doing, but claiming DJ would need to pad her posts like this to maintain the appearance of providing content is reaching, when she in fact is providing plenty.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:I'm not sure if trying to butter me up by your timely unvote, or if you're just finally sure that there's no way you can make people think I'm scum.
HAY PPLS ARE UNVOTING ME NOW THAT MUST MEAN NO ONE THINKS IM SCUM LOLOLOLOL. BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT INDICATES A READ IS A VOTE. AHAAHAHAHHAHA.
Do I need to remind you that DJ is suspicious of Vi, and as such did not believe Vi's vote on her was honest? You're making no sense here.
You asked a direct question, and she answered it. Exactly what is this point she missed?
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:This is exactly what I'd expect scum to say after pointing out a "contradiction" in someone else's post. It is like secondarily reinforcing the "hey everyone, look at this scummy thing X did!" message you're already sending. You just went up even higher on the ol' scumdar.
"OH YOU WOULD POINT OUT MY SCUMMY CONTRADICTIONS AND SCUMHUNT ME WOULDN'T YOU! THAT'S JUST WHAT SCUM WOULD DO!"
I don't see what the contradiction is supposed to be here. What I do see is you nitpicking and trying to distract people from noticing you never actually answered the question DJ asked you.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:Hey Brandi? Guess who looks for "more than enough reason to vote someone?" Scum does.
Hey DJ, guess who looks for more than enough reason to vote someone? Town does.
Wrong again. Town looks for scum, while scum looks for reasons to vote town they can get away with. You of course have given no reasons, but your repeated claims of having given enough reasons does look like scum trying to excuse their bad vote.
In post 522, Rarity wrote:So you're going to take every sentence I write and try to find something wrong with it. Now- THAT- is scummy.
Are you sure you're not talking about yourself here? This seems like exactly what you're doing with DJ.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:Especially when hopping onto a wagon they haven't paid much attention to before, or were scared to touch earlier for fear of being called scummy for an easy hop. Such as a wagon on a newbie. They wait until something happens that feels like a smoking gun, and then over-justify their position so it doesn't look like they're voting without reason.
Completely false and heavily filled with misrep. Just your style, I guess.
DJ was making a generic statement of what scum do, not claiming that you had done all of that. Facts are that you kept calling Godot town, and only voted the slot after he replaced out. I would not say you have overjustified your vote on Arugula, but other than that I can see why DJ would think the statement was appropriate here.
In post 522, Rarity wrote:
That's fine, I don't mind being on the scumlist of scum. It's actually quite flattering that you flail so much because of me. ^^
So you accuse DJ of flailing?
You?
Flailing is already the most overused and unreliable tell in the book, but coming from you it is comedy gold.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:And in the wake of that moment of faked self-righteousness, here comes the false bravado that you think will make you look town.
"OH NOES I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING SCUMMY ABOUT THIS POST! GUYS! ITS JUST FAKED TOWNINESS THAT LOOKS REALLY TOWN BUT ITS NOT!!!!"
Listen to yourself.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:And here's you trying to make it look like I'm purposefully spreading misinformation.
And here is you purposefully spreading misinformation by claiming that I was saying that you were purposefully spreading misinformation. I wasn't, I was merely correcting you. But I guess being scum and all would make it hard to see it that way. It's cute that you can manage to take everything as an attack~
Trying to be witty while reaching for reasons to suspect DJ again? This is getting old.
In post 522, Rarity wrote:
More filler in an attempt to YET AGAIN try to expand your word-count. It sure looks like you are trying here!!! (hint: sarcasm)
That is not filler. DJ is openly dismissing your reads as bad.
In post 522, Rarity wrote: In post 518, DJ P0n-3 wrote:Why are you adding fluff tags? Charlie and Vi are fluffing without remorse, and arguably a couple other players are doing so as well. Why don't
you
feel comfortable doing it without tongue-in-cheekly informing everyone else that you're doing what you're doing?
Because you know you're guilty. And you're trying too hard to fit in.
*snip*
I'm not even going to quote your response. You have been posting plenty of fluff, yes. What kind of defense is that? And then you claim that DJ has nothing on you except lies, contradictions and bullshit. Is that the best you can do?
That was fun. Rarity, when can we expect your case on DJ? Clearly this can't have been it. Where are these lies and contradictions you speak of? Point them out.
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Good grief. That was one of the worst posts I have read in some time. Rarity keeps accusing DJ for whatever excuses she can think of, even ones that apply far better to her own play. It is not even a case of a pot calling the kettle black, when the Black Cauldron would compare favorably to Rarity. I particularly like what she said about DJ acting under pressure. Is waiting for pressure to wear off on you before becoming aggressive really indicative of scum? I have never noticed such a thing or heard anyone mention it, rather I feel the opposite is true, and scum become more aggressive under pressure. The pressure is clearly on Rarity here.
The reader may have noticed that I added links to the original posts that were absent from the quotes in the original case. I did this to provide context, but also to underline the fact that the quotes were mostly from a single post by DJ. Rarity has been calling DJ scum since
her first content post, and yet none of her original reasons can be found in her case. In fact, Rarity is almost exclusively attacking DJ's case on her, and has the nerve to accuse DJ of OMGUS.
Oh, and did I say I found nothing damning while reading Rarity's ISO? In fact I found this.
In post 280, Rarity wrote:Sudo, I'm not so certain on. I will admit he has been able to get one over on me before.
*snip*
My point is, he's a crafty one. But it's too early to tell whether or not he's scum. He hasn't provided enough content for me to judge.
In post 574, Rarity wrote:Sudo is not crafty as scum or as town
(please don't be offended <3)
I seem to recall Rarity saying Sudo would not be a very good wagon for lack of connections. Earlier she said Sudo was crafty. And now that suspicion is rising on Sudo, she says the exact opposite? I believe I see a connection now, between Rarity and Lady Edwina. No wonder Rarity was under pressure to make a case.
UNVOTE: Charlie
VOTE: Rarity