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He'll flake if he's scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I'm just mucking around. No malice meant.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 18, Kublai Khan wrote:In general town are more likely to be ignorant of flavor than scum. Scum are more careful in knowing everything before playing.
If you think this why are you voting Jason?
Though I guess its possible for him to be scum and fake a town tell/go for an easy lynch.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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stupidOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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he is, you are correct.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Zora didn't stutter.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Hey Thad, RVS is over.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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nope never heard that one. I guess it makes Zabriel confirmed scum right?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Av what do you think of his possible town tell?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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KK does need to cut out the foreplay and get to the action.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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lets move my RVS vote!!!
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Jason is likely town and I don't particularly like any of the other three votes on him.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 70, Melmond wrote:Jason's "townslip" is null to me. I think it could go either way.
I agree with this however, unless Jason starts acting scummy I'm willing to give him town Knuts.
zabriel wrote:Nero's criticism of the jason wagon comes off as a little funny after he just jumped off it.
No. Just no. I didn't join any Jason wagon. Yes I voted Jason but that was just RVS. You earn 5 scum Sickles for trying to rewrite history.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why are you role fishing?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 81, Yates wrote:That isn't a role fish and you know it. I never asked him for his role OR his character name. It's a simple exercise. If you are going to speculate that roles may not match flavor, wouldn't you check yourself before posting?
So Jason says that we shouldn't assume Snake is even in this game and that even if Snake is in the game we shouldn't assume its a town role/scum role. You then ask if he has flavor that backs this up.
Thats deffiantly a fish. Tell me, how would knowing Jason's flavor help you in scum hunting?
In post 86, PeregrineV wrote:I don't see where Jason town telled.
Of course he coud be faking it here but scum are usally more careful so Jason missing something big earned him some town knuts.
In post 114, Benmage wrote:Jason... that rc vote couldn't really suck any harder.
Nowhere more useful to put it?
You know PV also voted RC. Why the selective scumhunting?
Mod-If its not too much trouble could you but vote couts in order from highest to lowest. E.X.
jasonT1981 - 3 (zabriel, Zoroaster, AurorusVox)
rapidcanyon - 3 (rapidcanyon, PeregrineV, jasonT1981)
BloodCovenant - 3 (Shahrizai, Yates, I Am Innocent)
Zoroaster - 2 (ThAdmiral, Nero Cain)
Yates - 2 (Kublai Khan, Benmage)
Amrun - 1 (Melmond)
Benmage - 1 (Acosmist)
@Zabriel-Why are you ignoring everything? I mean eventhough KK's vote on you was on page 1 I didn't think it was "RVS" and I thought it was a srs accusation. And then you accused me off jumping off a Jason wagon that I never joined but you have no response to my accusation?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Is Zoroaster and zoraster the same person?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why not? I don't like any of the three players on Jason but I'm ignoring AV a bit since his reads areALWAYSterrible and his lack of good voting isn't alignment telling. But with Zabriel ignoring another post its time we pressure and seriously consider lynching him.
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In post 139, Benmage wrote:You can pressure him without voting if that's your little hearts desire.
Sure but a vote is a much better indication of desire then say a FOS or questioning. Lets say Tammy did pressure Zab without a vote. I can almost guarantee that someone would be all like "oh Tammy you's so scummy. Why u b attackin' Zab with no votes?!?" So its like a damned if she does, damned if she doesn't situation.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 150, jasonT1981 wrote:Ben, stop.. just stop talking.
I concur.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 160, rapidcanyon wrote:I buy Acosmist's claim. Usually, when someone claims out of the blue early in the game, they are usually town trying to alert someone of a unique nature of their role (PGO/miller) etc. So, that's one person I am happy to have call town.
Are you even reading the game? Ben has pointed out that there's a long history of scum fakeclaiming stuff. At the same time its also expected? of town to claim stuff like that early. Acomist's life depends on his play. start's being a lurky fluff monster then we kill it.
Though I find it rather odd that Ben is devoting so much time into trying to throw doubt onto Acomist but isn't voting.
In post 169, Yates wrote:1. I haven't found a better target?
Zabriel is a better target.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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*If he starts being a lurky fluff monster then we kill it.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 186, Benmage wrote:I am more enlightening everyone to previously effective scum tactics. I think this is the second time you've made false undermining statements regarding me.
But Ben, all but a few of the playerbase have been here awhile. So there's little need to enlighten. That's cute. Ben pushed back.
In post 187, zabriel wrote:I am not a fan of anybody on the Aco wagon.
no one is voting him. lol
Why do people think this is town? Zab is ignoringEVERYTHINGdirected at him. Slot needs death.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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The color of the sky would have been an awesome topic. But in all SRSness, all but like 3 of the players are new so spending several posts ranting about how scum in the past have done lolfakeclaim. No it looks very much like you throwing gasoline on him. And its even odder that you have a town read on the slot but you feel its so necessary to "educate" the playerbase that he could be fakeclaiming. Stance makes no sense coming from town.
As far as your "Nero iz makin' false statements about me!!!" Bullshit. I had pointed out that you had lightly attacked Jason for his vote on RC but not PV. That's not a false statement in the least.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Maybe earlier, still it looks like Zab isn't paying attention and light defending you.
MOAR VOTES AND COMMENTS ON ZAB.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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AV blows too. Dude is posting it up all over the site, Has no real content in this game, Hops on an EZ/lame Jason wagon. And then votes Yates for...being the leading wagon?
Between Zab, AV and Ben I'd love to spill one of their blood.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Hey THAD, stop postering and vote him. His "I'm pretty sure some of the pressure on him is scum" but not voting for anyone that was putting pressure on Aco looks like a "my buddies be casting doubt but I can't vote them" statement. And even if they aren't its aIIOAstatement.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 201, Yates wrote:Wait. What is this Zab wagon? He simply looks like someone not paying attention to the game to me. His ISO is all of 8 posts of -meh- What am I missing, here?
Quite a lot Yates.
First he jumps on the easy/lame Jason wagon.
Then he criticizes me for jumping off of the dumb Jason wagon that ended up forming.
And then he's like "welp I'm not doing anything since I'm playing high"
He's ignoringEVERYTHINGcoming his way.
And I don't think he's scum hunting at all.
@Zab-Did you think KK's vote on you was SRS or RVS? If you thought it was serious why did you not respond?
Why did you not answer Ben when he asked what you meant by "playing high" and what did you mean?
Why did you not respond to
In post 77, Nero Cain wrote:
zabriel wrote:Nero's criticism of the jason wagon comes off as a little funny after he just jumped off it.
No. Just no. I didn't join any Jason wagon. Yes I voted Jason but that was just RVS. You earn 5 scum Sickles for trying to rewrite history.
If you think scum are the one's pressuring Aco why are you not attacking any of them?
In post 203, zabriel wrote:I don't feel very confident in my reads until day 2 usually.
What would change between day 1 and 2?
In post 208, Melmond wrote:Acosmist seems town, and his claim seems legit. I think the FOXDIE part seems like a good explanation to the role.
Right now, out of what has been posted, Yates seems the scummiest to me. His role/flavor fishing doesn't seem good, especially because I get the feel that he's experienced enough to know that that isn't a good thing to do.
I need to do some ISO's and stuff though.
cool beans though we are talking about Zab now. What do you think of him?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 201, Yates wrote:Wait. What is this Zab wagon? He simply looks like someone not paying attention to the game to me. His ISO is all of 8 posts of -meh- What am I missing, here?
Quite a lot Yates.
First he jumps on the easy/lame Jason wagon.
Then he criticizes me for jumping off of the dumb Jason wagon that ended up forming.
And then he's like "welp I'm not doing anything since I'm playing high"
He's ignoringEVERYTHINGcoming his way.
And I don't think he's scum hunting at all.
@Zab-Did you think KK's vote on you was SRS or RVS? If you thought it was serious why did you not respond?
Why did you not answer Ben when he asked what you meant by "playing high" and what did you mean?
Why did you not respond to
In post 77, Nero Cain wrote:
zabriel wrote:Nero's criticism of the jason wagon comes off as a little funny after he just jumped off it.
No. Just no. I didn't join any Jason wagon. Yes I voted Jason but that was just RVS. You earn 5 scum Sickles for trying to rewrite history.
If you think scum are the one's pressuring Aco why are you not attacking any of them?
In post 203, zabriel wrote:I don't feel very confident in my reads until day 2 usually.
What would change between day 1 and 2?
In post 208, Melmond wrote:Acosmist seems town, and his claim seems legit. I think the FOXDIE part seems like a good explanation to the role.
Right now, out of what has been posted, Yates seems the scummiest to me. His role/flavor fishing doesn't seem good, especially because I get the feel that he's experienced enough to know that that isn't a good thing to do.
I need to do some ISO's and stuff though.
cool beans though we are talking about Zab now. What do you think of him?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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DEATH TO THE PONY ALT!!!!Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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First of all
In post 197, Nero Cain wrote:AV blows too. Dude is posting it up all over the site, Has no real content in this game, Hops on an EZ/lame Jason wagon. And then votes Yates for...being the leading wagon?
Between Zab, AV and Ben I'd love to spill one of their blood.
FUCKING GO ME!!!
I betcha I die tonight 'cause scum thinks I'm the dv.
In post 199, jasonT1981 wrote:you may be right about AV actually, looking in ISO
Given the flip, this post looks a bit bad. If Jason is scum with AV then he might be saying that I was "right" for some town cred.
In post 216, zabriel wrote:I don't think much of any of the votes on me. They aren't really high on my list of shit I care about
Bleh. On one side of the fence. Scum wouldn't be so blisteringly anti-town. On the other side I just don't care and find the hydra/alt slot scummy and derpy as hell. And I'm fairly ticked off that he's not responding to me.
In post 187, zabriel wrote:I'm pretty sure some of the pressure on him is scum looking to push a mislynch.
In post 220, zabriel wrote:pressure on Aco was stupid town
Hello cognitive dissonance.
In post 226, PeregrineV wrote:and is it just me, or is there a distinct lack of posting for a game this size?
no its lurkergate. And given that AV scum was mad lurking we probs have other scum lurking.
In post 231, BloodCovenent wrote:In post 230, Kise wrote:In post 205, pappums rat wrote:Kise has failed to meet activity requirements so a search for a replacement will now begin. If he posts within the thread before a replacement is found he will remain in the game.
BloodCovenant has recieved his first prod.
YEEEEEAAAAH READING NOW
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the only reason why i'm playing the game, thank god your back in.
You are the biggest fucking douche on this site.
lol @ PV scumhunting AV after he got shot.
In post 255, Tammy wrote:he's calling Nero town and saying that he seems genuine.
My bolierplate warning.
No scumtell is EVER 100%.
But at the same time, scum are also very likely to call their pusher town in an attempt to get the pusher to back off.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Fair enuff but why are you not persuing any of the people putting pressure on Aco?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 264, ThAdmiral wrote:I'm starting to dislike the zabriel wagon. Has the non-resistant feel of a wagon on town.
We should probably still be killing it since its nothing but a distraction/mislynch bait and a town night action magnet.
BloodCovenent wrote:zabriel wrote:Wow, first time I've seen a daykill before.Not much information.From what we've got out though, it looks like flavor is matching the works pretty well, since if I remember right Psycho Mantis is the guy that can read your mind and keep you from doing things. Roleblocker fits that well.
I'm not sure we're dealing with coaching. It's possible, but it seems like the kind of thing you'd say to create fake associative tells. I don't know AV's scum meta, but it felt a lot like the last micro I played with him. He was arrogant, but he managed to peg the scum team pretty early in that game. I have townread on Yates, but if we're dealing withtwo mafias,Jason might not actually be a bad vote.
For now, I think I'm going to jump over to the KK wagon because I agree with the points put forth by RC and Kise.
VOTE: KK
This post is just full of fence sitting/IIoA.
what do you mean two mafias?
He either is scum and knows that the size of his scum team is too small to be the only one or he thinks there are mafias. Why you needed to ask that is beyond me.
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In post 271, Benmage wrote:
In post 191, Nero Cain wrote:
As far as your "Nero iz makin' false statements about me!!!" Bullshit. I had pointed out that you had lightly attacked Jason for his vote on RC but not PV. That's not a false statement in the least.
Its not necessary, because there's nothing wrong with selectivity in questioning. Slightly different yet similar scenario: I want to question players A+B over something they both did (like RC/PV) But I want player A's answer to be uninfluenced. I ask him first, than I ask player B... Always motives. For me, it was more a focus thing. Deal with 1 thing at a time to not be too distracted doing too many things.
+ the unnecessary jape at me selecting a segment from Jason telling me to stop talking.
Do you just post for the sake of reading your own posts? I read it the first time. So why you feel the need to repeat yourself is beyond me. From my POV you lightly attacked Jason, I think its plenty reasonable to ask why you were only asking/attacking one person and not the other. And even if you thought my question was unnecessary...unnecessary=//=false. That's pretty derpy, dude.
What did you learn from Jason?
Why did you never follow up on the subject with PV?
In post 273, ThAdmiral wrote:Update: I officially declare zabriel full of fail
FIFY!!!
In post 277, ThAdmiral wrote:In post 267, Nero Cain wrote:In post 264, ThAdmiral wrote:I'm starting to dislike the zabriel wagon. Has the non-resistant feel of a wagon on town.
We should probably still be killing it since its nothing but a distraction/mislynch bait and a town night action magnet.
Come on this is bad justification.
So in your opinion we should let him live so he can active lurk and do nothing the whole game while he sits there and eats up information targets and (if town) makes an acceptable scapegoat that scum can tunnel on.
If he's town he should be modkilled anyways + town loose games 'cause town are to afraid to policy lynch n crap. Would you really want to trust this guy in LYLO?
That last post from IAI sucks dick!!!. I think its a slight scumtell to ISO since you should be reading the whole game instead. + it looks like jumping on the highest wagon instead of trying to find who the scummiest player is 'cause THE WHOLE "CATCHUP" POST IS DEDICATED TO ZAB. I simply do not get a town vibe from this 'cause I think you'd have more to say then just about one person.
I have an incredibly desire to switch gears and kill IAI.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 272, zabriel wrote:I haven't answered the getting high question because I feel like it's the kind of thing that takes away from actual discussion since it's not exactly a game question,
I'm not actually interested in it but I want/ed to start seeing you do something. But you know what? I did ask you a bunch of game relevant questions. So why are ignoring those?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Bad like Midas bad.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I'm scum with KK?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 288, I Am Innocent wrote:If you think scum IAI would just blindly hop on the easiest wagon when BC is the #2 wagon and that is who I voted the whole part prior to the day kill is just dumb.
Unless the leading wagon is a buddy then yeah, I think you'll hop on.
Though my problem is that instead of taking the time to get back home and retype what you supposedly lost your whole "catch-up" is about Zab and nothing else that has happened. That's why it looks like you A.) really really wanted to get a foot on that wagon and B.) really really wanted to get a post in so you wouldn't get called for lurking. Neither of which gives me town vibes.
In post 290, jasonT1981 wrote:In post 268, BloodCovenent wrote:@nero, i just noted two possible slips where he indicated more than 1 scum team. interesting shit man.
I doubt even scum would know if there are more teams. I think it is best to wait to day 2 to see if its possible. Can't tell anything now.
BUT
Given the flip was just 'Mafia Roleblocker' I am thinking just one team. As there was no faction name etc.
If you join a game and your scum team is small then its pretty easy to guess.
I think its shitty but I have been in games with two unnamed teams.
I have no issue with IAI asking Ben for his scum reads, Ben saying no doesn't fill with joy. Though I do agree that IAI should. Ben needs to do it as well.
In post 305, jasonT1981 wrote:In post 303, zabriel wrote:Gonna have to agree here. IAI is asking for a lot of information, which could be the start of a kill-list for tonight.
IAI Asking for a list of who someone thinks is scum is actually a kill list?
I must be missing alot in my drugged state tonight.
Yes. He asked for Ben's biggest town reads too.
edit: Zab owned Jason. lol
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IDK, at this point I wouldn't mind running up both Zab and IAI but we can only lynch one person.....
Roles are meant to be random so its not like an inexperienced player can't be scum. I have serious issues with him not answering questions about his game play. Though at the same time his "scumminess" could just be inexperience. Scum take who they want to lylo, its our job to try to weed out distractions and stuff that gives town less of a chance to win. And the slot is scummy anyways so it needs death.
But between the two I don't really care who gets strung up.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 319, ThAdmiral wrote:
In post 283, Nero Cain wrote:
So in your opinion we should let him live so he can active lurk and do nothing the whole game while he sits there and eats up information targets and (if town) makes an acceptable scapegoat that scum can tunnel on.
If he's town he should be modkilled anyways + town loose games 'cause town are to afraid to policy lynch n crap. Would you really want to trust this guy in LYLO?
I don't even think you can accuse him of active lurking. At worst he's not answeringsomequestions put to him.
Wait, why should he be modkilled? Where did that come from?
It's nowhere near lylo, why do you feel you need to reduce this argument to an absurd abstraction like that?
Lemme ask you a question Thad. If you had serious questions about my gameplay and therefore my alignment and I ignored them you'd have a scum read on me correct?
I have more to say on this but I'd like your answer first.
In post 326, snifit wrote:Don't think highly of the noise Nero is making
Me? Noise? WTF?
In post 326, snifit wrote:Oh, Nero denies responsibility for the kill. Maybe it's ~wifom~ but he might be back on the cart.
look who's hunting for the dayvig.
I agree with PV that Snifits "skipping" doesn't do anything for me.
I have seen, once, scum self vote.
In post 385, ThAdmiral wrote:I'm also annoyed by the fact he is replacing out because I tend to give people that replace in leeway,
this is exactly why scum replace out.
Instead of try to smooth things over and explain away the heat on him he just leaves with saying a bunch of nonsense. And there's a distinct lack of scumhunting too.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 399, ThAdmiral wrote:In post 394, Nero Cain wrote:Lemme ask you a question Thad. If you had serious questions about my gameplay and therefore my alignment and I ignored them you'd have a scum read on me correct?
I have more to say on this but I'd like your answer first.
Probably, but (and this might not sound fair) I hold you to a higher standard.
Only probably? I had figured that you'd defiantly have a scum read on me but I wanted to hear it from you. The point was that its ant-town to ignore questions. Asking question and getting responces can greatly influence those reads. Therefore not responding to questions is hindering our reads on himANDhim being inexperinced has nothing to do with him avoiding questions.
In post 319, ThAdmiral wrote:It's nowhere near lylo, why do you feel you need to reduce this argument to an absurd abstraction like that?
Not boiling anything down. I find the slot scummy and therefore want the slot gone (since thats what I'M supposed to do;lynch scum) but,AS AND ADDED BONUS, this slot shouldn't even get a whiff of lylo if it continues to play like this. If that was my sole justification, as you seem to imply, then it would apply to like over half the playes on this site...
In post 394, Nero Cain wrote:In post 385, ThAdmiral wrote:I'm also annoyed by the fact he is replacing out because I tend to give people that replace in leeway,
this is exactly why scum replace out.
Instead of try to smooth things over and explain away the heat on him he just leaves with saying a bunch of nonsense. And there's a distinct lack of scumhunting too.
True, but I think its poor form to use replacing out as a scumtell, because there are often genuine reasons behind it.
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I agree though no one is doing this. Replacing out is null. I was merely stating that scum do replace out since there are playeers like you that will give replaced slot leeway/townie points.
Whats the name of that tell again?
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^^^^
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that was meant to be directed at Kise
In post 410, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 406, Nero Cain wrote:Whats the name of that tell again?
I IsO'd him BEFORE replacing in you idiot.
A lil' defensive there eh?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I might be replying to all this bullshit later. Though I will say that I didn't even find Yates scummy. I asked why he was fishing and then explained how it was fishing but never even voted him. AP's desperate attempt to link me and BC might be trying to get his buddy some town cred. And given that I was the one the "lead" the IAI wagon and then I'm AP's top scum read for a bunch of bullshit makes me think this is just a OMGUS in disguise.
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nope, we kill the stupid and scummy avian slotOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Didn't you claim to have read IAI's ISO? In his 288 he's responding to me after I called him scum and now you're all like "well I didn't read it." Shit makes no sense. Continue with the lynching of the liar bird.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Is AP usually this terrible?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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you do know what he's doing right?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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AP mudslings and Nero responds
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In post 447, jasonT1981 wrote:In post 445, Nero Cain wrote:you do know what he's doing right?
I think I do, actually.
IMO, I think he's just mudslinging and trying to make things personal so he and/or his buddies can be all like "herr derr Nero doesn't like AP" so silly players will be less likely to vote him"
His slot needs death and he needed it 6 pages ago.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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lol @ AP thinkin' I called him town.
Melmond is fairly scummy I guess but there are scummier players in the game like you, snifit and Zab.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 503, Cybertronix wrote:Why not just post something after reading everything with your conclusions, rather than FoS'ing everyone in the game?
'cause he's scum and wants to be active while not really doing anything.
@AP full case on melmund plox?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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AP are you a Pidgey alt?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 503, Cybertronix wrote:AV voted Jason in RVS.
No. His vote on Jason was defiantly a wagon hop.
AP wrote:And I am OMGUSing you (in your alternative universe anyways), and I'm not calling you town. But that is apparently ALSO a scum tell to you. So you are apparently an idiot scum
What is this crap? I've been here longer than you (unless you are an alt). There is no scum playbook, no they do this but don't do that. No scum tell is 100%, the most accurate tell is probably the [for lack of a catchy name] "posting it up in other threads with ignoring a certain game" Not all scum will give a pusher a town read but some do in an attempt to get the pusher off their backs. Some scum will OMGUS (as you have) some scum will flat out ignore accusations. Tells are nice and all but intent is probably a better indication of alignment.
This is all rhetorical since I don't trust you to give me a fair answer but lets say you had called a slot scum, slot comes under immense pressure, slot replaces out, new occupant of the slot calls the pusher of the old occupant scum. Would you not find that suspicious? Would you not think OMGUS? I'm betting you would.
"BUT I DIDN'T SEE WHERE YOU CALLED HIM SCUM/PUT A CASE ON HIM"
Which is a load of bullshit since you've pointed out 2 or 3 times that you read IAI's ISO. In IAI's ISO he's quoting me and responding to me. So your claiming to have read his ISO + not have seen me call him scum is a big ole' fat lie and if you are lying about one thing...
AP wrote:Zabriel flat out DID NOT UNDERSTAND the concept of a fake claim. Do you honestly think he is scum and gambiting. And if you don't think scum have safe claims, then ?
I don't really see him claiming that scum would never claim Snake and the Ben reminding him that it could be a safeclaim as Zab not understanding a fake claim. I have been in a game without fake claims but most mods do give them. I can see where you are coming from but I think its null at best. Zab could easily be scum and call ACO town with the rational that "scum wouldn't claim that" 'cause you know....they couldn't.
Zabriel said he was smoking weed. Who cares? Why are you interjecting this in there as an argument against Zabriel?? It was a horrendous thing to talk about after he brought it up and don't pass off the fact you are trying to make Zabriel look scummy for it onto Benmage.
Context is everything. Zab has been ignoringALOTof questions. Ben had asked what he meant. I asked him if he ever answered that. But this does bring up a important question. Why are you selectively scumhunting? I'm a scumread for asking if Zab ever answered this but Ben is a town read for asking this? lol wut?
But I don't even get why you are bringing this up. I was responding to "Why would you [IaI] join a game to be v/la for the first two weeks... Mind blowing" All I said was that I don't think this was Ben trying to caim IAI was town for that as you seemed to imply.
AP wrote:and no, I'm not a pidgey alt. Thanks for the smear/misrep though.
What is wrong with you? Asking you a question is not smearing/misrepping.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 515, PeregrineV wrote:Do I need to read them or can someone summarize them for me.
Just a bunch of useless arguing. IAI replaced out and his replacement obviously isn't potty trained since he's filled the thread with crap but obviously I'm a bias source.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 519, AngryPidgeon wrote:And I'm selectively scum hunting? How? I have at least 5 people on my FoS list the last time I checked.
1.You should read
2. Do you even understand the term selective scum hunting?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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@Kise, Ben-Is this really scum or is his derpyness just inexperience?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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no. you fucking go back and read it.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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you hadn't read the wall but you found where I accused you of selective scumhunting but it was to hard to read the sentence after that explained it....schools have really gone down hill these days.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 538, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 500, pappums rat wrote:zabriel - 5 (jasonT1981,Kublai Khan,Zoroaster,Cybertronix,BloodCovenant)
Really doubting that everyone on the Zab wagon is town. Kind of nullish on jason, I think BC and Zoro are town. I would not at all mind a Cybertronix wagon.
KK is also orange but you rather wagon a softer/weaker target in cyber?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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