Mastin wrote: First off, let me say--you don't want to underestimate me. You've been laughing me off, but you're ignoring the critical factor of time. You've already made plenty of enemies for the Tammy lynch and for the El lynch. You'll make more and more with each mislynch you push through. I've made some enemies, sure, but I've made a HECK of a lot more allies. And I'll continue to make more allies, with every mislynch I defend against. From Tammy to El, whenever you win, you lose support. You're in a position where plenty of people have you as a suspect. Even if you're only the primary suspect of a few people, you're a secondary and tertiary suspect for many more, and lots of people lean null on you.
Well let’s address the elements of this post from my perspective.
1. Underestimating you – Let’s be clear … when it comes to playing with me you get what you give. I can’t summarize it any more concisely than that. And frankly what you have given me has been a load of shouting rhetoric with not a shred of support. It’s why I’ve hammered you again and again to provide the meta you claim to be leaning on and calling you terrible. Because your play has been terrible. It’s almost as if you decided “To hell with actually being Pro-Town I think the way to go is to be Fate-lite”. And when I all I see from you is “MOI IS PLAYING TO HIS SCUM META, BLAH BLAH BLAH, EVERY SUSPECT OF HIS MUST BE TOWN, BLAH BLAH BLAH” you can’t expect me to take you seriously and not return comments in-kind. I notice you are talking out of both sides of your mouth in recent posts – I’m your top suspect and you are appealing to everyone to explain their Town read on me but you specifically say you are willing to entertain the concept of me being Town. I can’t help but wonder if like Nero you feel you’ve bit off more than you can chew with me and are looking to extricate from your MoI is auto-scum position. That’s what I see with all the “Watch your step, I’m more skilled and you have too many enemies” elements of this post.
2. The concept that I’ve made “enemies” for those lynches is an Appeal to Fear. So don’t, if you really want to have an open line of communication with me, bother using that type of tactic. It’s pointless and you’ve already staked 100% of your credibility on my being scum this game. The second I flip Town (which I will) you have flushed it down the drain. So trying to make me afraid of calling you out if I feel I need to isn't going to work.
3. Tammy wasn’t a mislynch and was again the correct lynch that day. I don’t really care whether you believe I am correct or not. But I will grind you into the ground every time you bring up that argument as a reason why you think I’m scum. Just FYI.
Mastin wrote: More than that, I'm charismatic when I choose to be. I know how the system works. I know how to pull the strings, to strike the bargains necessary to push a lynch through. So far, my efforts have been too little, too late, but I'm starting early this time. And that means I can direct people, I can get them to go my way and follow me, and honestly,
I think I can do that better than you can
, especially given that you keep on being wrong and I keep on being right.
The bolded makes me chuckle.
As to you being correct while I’m wrong – that’s quite frankly a load. You’ve yet to lynch scum and trying to sell that you were correct on Els being Town isn’t a feather in your cap. This is Mafia 101 – scum are in the best position to call scummy Town as such. The ‘Scum Lynched’ scoreboard right now is MoI -1, Mastin – 0. That’s the fact no matter how you want to parse "Tammy wasn't scum she was a Serial Killer" semantics. Until you can actually push for a scum lynch your series of White Knight postings actually just increases the likelihood you are scum for those who are actually Town looking to assess everyone’s alignment.
Make no mistake – you aren’t in my Top 4 of scum suspects at this point. You’ve staked too much of your rep on getting a 1v1 with me. I know you aren’t getting it so you’ve effectively neutered yourself which I doubt scum Mastin would do.
Mastin wrote:So again, don't underestimate me. More than that, don't antagonize me. Right now, for this post, I'm entertaining the idea that you're town.
And I'm telling you that regardless of your alignment, having me as an enemy will not end well for you.
So play with me for a while. I want you to tell me not just your suspects and not just your setup spec and not just who you're defending. I want from you, a full list of reads, on the entire playerlist. For instance, you've consistently dodged giving a reading on Kise.
Frankly the bolded is a two way street. I think you underestimate just how dangerous an Town opponent I am mastin – there is a reason why one of us has a custom title memorializing how often they get killed Night 1 and one of us used to have a custom title about how much we posted.
Don’t bother asking me for a full reads list. I don’t do those and never will. I’ll tell you who my suspects are and why but I’m not making a nice, tidy, and utterly useless list ranking all the players in the game Town to Scum. They don’t help catch scum and at best only serves to tell them which players are most useful for them to kill if they are foolish enough to let me live.
As to dodging giving a reading on Kise I’m going to ask you to point to posts made by anyone but yourself who had requested it. Because frankly that comment is just right up the rhetoric with no support alley you’ve been walking down all game and doesn’t engender goodwill from me.
Mastin wrote: Also, I want to know--have you read the entire game? You replaced in, you've done isos, you've been playing since ~5 pages before replacing in and maybe even some of the first pages, but I want to know if you've actually read the game in context entirely.
No, I have not. I’m not going to read 80+ pages at this stage. Frankly a lot of that has to do with you. I have a finite amount of time during to read the game and I’ve had to devote enough of my time not devoted to pointing out current scummy play (see my posts) to making sure Town sees your posts re: me make are devoid of support and analysis of motivation.
So in summary - if you want to play nice I'm more than open to doing so. For me that means an open line of communication. It does not mean jumping through any hoops you think you want jumped through.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.