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So I'm totally out of the game right now.
But I recently did some reminiscing about a past scumgame of mine.
In here, I gave extensive feedback to Zdenek which said, "You're good."
Old game, three years ago, something I had completely forgotten about, but still, shows my attitude towards Z isn't new. I had forgotten my attitude, and it's since come back, butyeah. Thought it vaguely relevant.
(I'll be into the game later. AP's no doubt ranting his ass off on some random things by now.)Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Kinda sorta feeling like shit atm, and basically have no memory of what's going on in the game. Honestly, don't really feel like reading, but I'm asking where AP stands on everyone in the game, and I'll evaluate things off of his guidance. ('Cause there's a fairly good chance whatever he says is what I'd have said doing more work anyway. )Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Its more of like I havent encountered you as scum before and Im not sure what Id expect. Your posts looks like what Id moreorless expect from town-Brian, but lean a littler closer, roses really smell like PooOOOoo. Or maybe they really are town-roses, idk.
You might be scum but Im not going to worry too much about that at all today cause Im just not mentally ready to pass a judgement on you that I can get behind.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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@Ika: IDK I feel like that last post of mine was the perfect vent so Im in a better mood than I was!~, still you didnt even comment on my awesome color scheme, reads, and attempt at comedy. So </3.
See the reason Im mad at mastin is cause she troll posted all of D1 and has basically not even read my posts in the QT yet because shes focusing on other shit and leaving me to bear the damn cross that she made.
Like IDK man I'd like to talk to you about your approach to doing things (if you are town here) after the game, but not now.
Would you vote either Venmar or Zdenek today? Hell I'll even yolo paranoia gut wagon Brian skies for the epic lolz right now.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Ya this is one of the things that looks like scum-roses. Why do you give 2 shits about Serene's opinion exactly?In post 1358, Brian Skies wrote:I'm still pretty okay with trading you for scumflips.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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At brian: phone post now going to dinner. You trust them to be REALLY GOOD? Enough that they are better than other people here notably that you care? Enough to override the possibility that they're just mafia and going to ml lots of people? You think they are amazingly better than me who you credit ed with finding the scum team in ag....you praised me for that earlier THIS GAMW.
So you ask why not serene. I asl.... why serene?Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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3rd party lyncher isn't town dude and it's silly to treat it like town. So you are willing to side with them over us who would be practically obv town if serene were a confirmed lyncher so we'd be trustworthy more than them anyhow. And you would actually consider lynching a townie over their lyncher? The fuck? IDK Brian.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Mastin abandoned me. I guess she's over it.In post 1370, Venmar wrote:mastin, how does it feel to keep drawing scum?Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Because you flat out said you would trade me for their reads. That's probably when I started assuming you cared more about them. You are sucking serene collective dick and 3rd party reading them. If I were not phone post ING I'd post a dr. Cox clip or something to express how baffled I amHydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Ya ok that changes literally everything. Brb overhaul of reads imminentIn post 1383, Brian Skies wrote:I said I'd trade you for scumflips.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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I've already said I doubt they are 3rd party and don't particularly want them Today?In post 1402, Brian Skies wrote:I mean, if you just want to lynch the claimed third party, go right ahead.
If he flips usurper, you die. But him flipping lyncher doesn't clear your alignment by any means.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Lololol ika. U funnyIn post 1428, ika wrote:
I wouldnt expect them to be tunnling you out of pure hatred, itIn post 1417, BirdAndBeast wrote:Serene town makes me scum because... ?Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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hi guys
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So uh. I guess some of my opinions are changing because of the last shift. Let me consult my notes in the QT...
I waffled on Venmar in the QT recently. I have him in my scumlist, but on reflect, I'd really rather lynch any of the other 3 people in that list over Venmar (Zdenek, Hiplop, Dryfit). Venmar's argument with BRO felt faintly town to me. Not enough to make me throw away my read there, but enough to make me realllllly want to look elsewhere today if we can.Venmar:@BRO:I really dont think Venmar came of scummy in the argument with you. He came off looking pissed. Which is a nulltell, but overall in a vacuum I'd guess that he is town in that exchange. Im wondering if he was moved shifts to be a distraction and stand out and get in a pissy argument with you (look how conveniently that happened). If Venmar was really mafia and getting swapped to your shift to avoid pressure, would he really just say "fuck you BRO" on loop? I mean maybe and I lean a little scummy on him still and would lynch him over most people, but eeeeeeh. EEEEHHHHHH. ...
This felt townish to me
this too sort of
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: I wanna lynch Hiplop. Mastin and I had the same reaction to him last shift (which was basically "Holy shit, Hiplop IS actually just scum").Hiplop
mastin in the QT wrote:So I just saw hiplop's logic for voting us.
He's scum.
This in particular rang terrible to me becauseIn post 1458, hiplop wrote:the possibility of a crossbus here is pretty likely i think. This doesn't really seem like townvtown or scumvtown.
1) Ive been pretty adamant about having bigger fish to fry than serene today and having no interest in lynching them for the most part. And I havent been calling them scum. So why does Hiplop get the idea we are X-bussing?; is he even reading the thread or just spewing random scummy crap all over?
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He is acknowledging Serene's Lyncher claim which is pretty cognitive dissonance with the rest of his posting here....And hes basically setting up to lynch Serene regardless of my flip but saying that Serene should go first anyways. So lmao ya fuck that.In post 1458, hiplop wrote:If bnb flips and serene isn't gone, that essentially confscums them
Uh but that isnt what you said in your last post? And I have a hard time buying this bullshit little AtE droplet about us being annoying when you are accusing us of X-bussing in spite of me not attacking them recently. (Read as: YOU ARENT READING THE THREAD)In post 1482, hiplop wrote:Eh, thats a good point broseidon. I had tunnel vision on killing EITHER serene or BnB. They are just seriously annoying this game and I wanted to kill them, i guess
I also didn't like the sheep onto Venmar from Hiplop and supposed interest in Venmar defending himself, just to write Venmar off as town after the exchange. Felt wrong / unjustified / white-knighty. Dunno.
As I told mastin in the QT, Hiplop is orders of magnitude in front of the rest of the pack for my preferred lynch today.
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: Still town, I think him posting out of turn is kinda a shitty reason to townread him hard but fuck it I am.Zepher
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: I had PV as nulltown for gut off of his early posts and mastin did too. I like 14.5's push there though and I think I'd be ok with lynching PV right now tbh. PV's interactions with Zoraster, on review, didn't sit well with me. It felt like he was focusing a lot of his time there and while thats not a scumtell on its own, Im just having a hard time -feeling- it from a town PV.Peregrine
This felt exceptionally bad as did the lead up to it (PV asking Venmar why scum would want him dead, ).In post 1538, PeregrineV wrote:Your seriously quoting me asking a townread of yours questions and using it as an argument that I'm scum?
Basically PV feels vapid this game which means hes probably scum.
So if I had to consolidate all my reads atm after that double shift off:
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Oh and this is pretty scummy.In post 1470, Dry-fit wrote:Reck what happened to ignoring all the stuff happening in the other shift?Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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I'll drink to that.In post 1575, Serene2 wrote:is this a reads list or a pride march, i don't know what half this shit meansHydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Not that hard to understand.In post 1579, Infinite Jesters wrote:wtf does this even mean
Green = townread; red = scumread; yellow = null-read.
Red+Green = ambivalent, feeling scum at times and town at other times.
Red+Yellow+Green = the same, just with longer usernames. It's null that's not null.
(I believe there's a distinction between red first and green first, but I can't tell. My guess is that green first is more town than scum and that red first is more scum than town, but it's hard to tell.)
Red+Yellow = nullscum.
Green+Yellow = nulltown.
Pain in the ass to read, yes, but easy enough to understand.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Why are your reads "off"?In post 1594, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am not posting anything else this shift due to my reads bein so "off". Will reread and evaluate.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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In post 1599, Infinite Jesters wrote:and this looks like you are going for a smear campaign
if you think I am scum with serene for...whatever reason you come up with hey I am trying hard not to go with that you are scum with them why don't you help lynch them cos clearly they are not town?
Would you be willing to flavor claim?In post 1607, Serene2 wrote:After I flip Lyncher, what are your reads?
In post 1617, Serene2 wrote:Look guys, there's a reason why B&B is a lyncher target and it's not because he's the cop, that'd be way too bastard. It's got to be because he's scum. His behavior supports that.
There has to be a reason Bird is a lyncher target...must be cause hes scum. Uhhh?
No, I'm pretty sure she* was arguing that you are a respectable player and that shes basically reading you off of BoP, but I cannot be fucked to go and ISO myself when mastin has pretty much abandoned me this game so not gonna check. And since when is being ridiculous a scumtell for mastin, thats pretty much just a mastin tell.In post 1621, Zdenek wrote:Except that isn't what happened. Mastin basically said that he always reads me as town. That's false. When I pointed that out to him, he complemented my play and continued to call me scum. I think any reasonable response from him would have to include him taking into account that he doesn't tend to read me as town.
Zepher thinks PV is "defnitely town" and therefore 14.5 is suddenly scum? Since when does someone being town make the person shoving them scum? No explanation about WHY it was a scummy push or PV is town? Its just Pv town -> 14.5 scum. No thanks. I think Zepher is town, just wow though.In post 1621, Zdenek wrote:Explain, please.
I cant even tell anymore. I think they are just town if I had to wager on it. Lyncher is possible I guess, but ? I just dont know.In post 1621, Zdenek wrote:I find Serene's nonsense hard to deal with.
Ika does worry me. I dont know. I dont think I'll be capable of seeing him as town if he is this game, at least at this rate. I get really mixed emotions whenever I think about him.In post 1632, AGar wrote:I like ika for scum, but I don't think ika is cunning enough to actually pull off anything amazing so I'm willing to focus on other players.
Can we just lynch Hiplop today? Like hiplop is actually just scum. Im way sure of it.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Oi!In post 1633, BirdAndBeast wrote:I cannot be fucked to go and ISO myself when mastin has pretty much abandoned me this game so not gonna check.
Have not.
Just that you're not saying anything I really, truly disagree with.
AP's reads are basically identical to mine. Reasons may differ a bit. But I haven't felt a need to post since you've been doing most of the work there for me. I'm still (mostly--I do skim and don't pay attention to page count) following along. It's not that I can't post, it's that I don't have anything TO post.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Nobutyes.In post 1635, Infinite Jesters wrote:Mastin are you around???
No, I shouldn't be (there's stuff I SHOULD be doing), but yes, I am.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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We're voting hiplop because he's a mutual strong scumread. Hiplop's posting has seemed strongly scum to me from what I've seen (admittedly, I've seen less than AP has), though I can't recall the exact reasons off the top of my head. (Might not even be any, just overall feeling of his posting.) We'd love to be sheeped, and yeah, overall we're both leaning town I'd think on Venmar. (It's a tough call, but it's one I'm willing to make. This might be one area I differ from AP, if he isn't.)In post 1638, Infinite Jesters wrote:Why are you guys voting who you're voting and how interested are you in a free vote on your awesome wagon? I'm reading through wagon people now so I don't spend forever catching up, but I thought Venmar was town last time I read.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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It took me < 1 minute to read Hiplops entire ISO right now which is pretty voteworthy on its own. But ya. Nothing in it looks town. The comment + vote about us/serene looks terribad like you said. The "venmar is scum...no wait venny is town Im so silly for sheeping BRO" is also terribad.
I think Im voting DRYFIT and BRO is going to hate me for this but
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Alright douchebags. Im here and losing at league and pretty pissed at having to do all the lifting here still. So you call deal with me.
Ika what the fuck.
What. the fuck. dude. Just die. Ive had it. So fucking scum. Jesus.
How did YOU know Agar was a scum kill? Maybe I THOUGHT it was and was wrong? Or maybe Im just applying Occams fucking razor to the game to cut away all the horse shit which you are a large source of.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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So can you just post out of shift or something? Is that your role? Or is this just more bullshit.
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I...uh..I just nope. I just cant be bothered to give a shit.In post 1770, ika wrote:Bolded and underlined: contridiction, you state you know there
Ika is scum as fuck and we should lynch him asap. Im sorry for my revolving door of preferred lynches. Guess Zdenek and Hiplop are still cool.
but ya much death to the Ika please and thanks for shoving a shitty contradiction case that isnt even a contradiction.
And jesus, why WOULD anyone think that Agar was something other than a scumkill.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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expected / 10.In post 1772, Serene2 wrote:In post 1771, BirdAndBeast wrote:And jesus, why WOULD anyone think that Agar was something other than a scumkill.
Apparently YOU would have thought that. Or at least should have, considering you were "scumreading" him for so long.
In post 1259, BirdAndBeast wrote:Agar isn't really a townread. I just see shinier things like Venmar not looking town, Zdenek being questionable (and mastin actually agreeing with me there) and Serene.
If you are town then you are being shameful I hope for your sake you are scum.
Im not going to fucking argue this.
1) The flavor sort of matches
2) Nobody wanted to lynch Agar (and not even me after recent reads, check it)
3) The scum are nknown to have a daykill. No other kills happened D1 so why would I default to thinking otherwise.
4) Nobody is scumreading Agar really who the fuck would have shot him.
5) Wow. Just wow. Just wow. Just wow. Just wow.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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In post 1349, BirdAndBeast wrote:Hey Ika Im feeling pissed off for reasons Im not allowed to discuss but talking to you is actually relatively better than continuing doing things that piss me off EVEN MORE, so I have a gift for you:
Agar -Eeeehhhh????? Hes voting scum so he can be a weird neon greenish color that looks like vomit and town at the same time.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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I don't need a case on you. I just know you are scum now and that mystery clearly bothers you.
No one ever said you are illogical. You are just flat out scum. So plain. So simple. So caught for reasons you don't understand.
I'd respond more coherently but I'm so phone posting and so not in the mood to justify this 109% correct read.
Pedit: lol. Ikas post is a shotgun discrediting attempt + scum caught and flustered about it. So lynch. I'll vote zdenek if that is happening he can still be scum too.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Eh, Im willing to ISO Zdenek with an open mind, but until that happens (read as: unless I have to) Im gonna be ok with voting him. Im with you on the ika pressure. Ive been writing off as a troll all game but I just cant anymore. Hes scum and he is the weakest link. You are 100% right about his stances being mostly theatrical and not really permanent. You are right about him not justifying any of his reads. He is finding any excuse to post for the sake of posting and I refuse to believe he finds his own posts interesting in this game. Like. His case on the lovers was so bad and so throwaway. Everything he does is hollow and I want it gone.In post 1784, Infinite Jesters wrote:I am seeing more town zden especially with his posts in this round. can we discuss that 1 if you are still having doubts?
also we can pressure ika since he is on this shift and we can actually have interaction with him the others can wait for a minute.
also I am extraordinarily tired right now so if plz don't get cranky on me. this is a reach around btw
His response to me calling him scummy was godawful. The combination of "where is your vote??" and "You are causing chaos by voting so many different people!!" and "Maybe you could lynch me if you werent all over the place, nyeh nyeh!!" was so fucking terrible it took all my strength not to throw my phone out of Iec's car as I read it.
Like, what the hell is this post. Ika shoves a fence post up his ass re PV then is like "But why should I have him as null, HMMM?" I mean for FUCKS sake.In post 1791, ika wrote:
thats the thing, he hasnt be exactly proactive nor un-proactive, his post feel very bleh, they dont really have that much meanign or really a feel to it. It comes off very just emotionless is mayeb the word to describe it. his last night shift was considerbly better but still seems to lack that motive or town drive i look for. But then again about everyone has became that.In post 1786, Zdenek wrote:I'll indulge you. Peregrine hasn't done anything scummy that I can see, and he's been proactive, so I don't see how he can be worse than null. Why do you think that he's scum?
I find it odd how you consider him only null or how you think i should consider him null at best.
p-edit: im here i was waiting on you give me a min
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Serene continues to be whatever. Maybe they actually are 3rd party, my mind is beyond blown whenever I try to understand what they are doing this game.
Venmar. Meh. Meh. I feel like his herpaderp with BRO looked townish and that + him being singled out for a shift switch was ehhhh town? Overall scummy person though, so meh. Would lynch, wouldnt feel amazing about doing so.
lol.In post 1788, Infinite Jesters wrote:eta: the IC does not count
Wow this sure is words Ika. THIS SURE IS WORDS. If only they actually meant anything.
Also did anybody else just notice the giant wall of IIoA he posted about why the lovers are scum? Cause that was wow. So Wow.In post 1800, Zdenek wrote:
This is so weird.In post 1797, ika wrote:i beieve towns would have more intiatives to put emotions into their posts and not make a giant wall of blah.
So this is me responding to the reacharound.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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But it would be.In post 1819, Zdenek wrote:
This is Mastin and Kuribo, so no.In post 1818, Svenskt Stål wrote:Zdenek, you say that you can see serene and BnB as a scum pair... do you know how wierd that sounds?
I'm working something out with AP. I think I might be onto something, but I'm not sure; waiting on a response from him.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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What I don't get is why people actually believe the lyncher claim without even squinting a little. Bizarre. Hiplop is still obviously mafia. Would probably vote zdenek or ika. Mastin doesn't want ika from what I gather.
Uhhhh. I had something else to say. Uhhhh. Plane taking off. Oh ya. I dunno ika continues to give me mixed emotions. His freak out and the AtF in particular re minds me of some lolz Mls I've tunnel ed on but he's just gotta be scum right? Ika zdenek hiplop dryfit??Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Kinda. ika could be scum or town, but probably not a good place to vote today.
Zdenek could be either, but probably not a good place to vote today.
And as for serene's claim being BS.
Well.
I'd love for it to be a scumclaim from him.
But this is kuribo we're talking about.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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I'm here
I'm queer
I won't be back before the next shift
VOTE: Zdenek
Ika has posted enough things that remind me of formerly tunneled mislynches, so. Hurrah. Mastin and I both agree on this vote being a moderate to good one, direct all complaints to someone who gives a crap.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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no mastin disappeared a long time ago.
Im tired of showing up to walls of "But AP, mastins posted read on me suckzorz!!" and mastin just continuing to waffle and/or not respond. Done caring. I think you are scum for completely not-mastin reasons and I posted about it (waY) earlier! Hurrah, suck it trebek.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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Excuse me? I just. I just dont even know what to tell you at this point. I responded to you with a fairly large post all cause you wanted one and now Im shutting you off and pretty obviously must be scum!! Ya, no thanks.In post 1864, Infinite Jesters wrote:I feel like something needs to happen between serene and bird people. I am losing confidence in my town read on bird people. ap is not letting me IN with these last few exchanges and that has never been a problem before. ever. except when he is scum.
In case it hasnt been made clear: I have zero time for this right now. I got chewed out at work, by my boss for this issue still being open and its crunch time for me. On top of that, I was visiting my boyfriend last week which is something I only get to do like 20% of my time MAXIMUM. Im only putting in the teensiest amount of giveafuck right now because the shift is ending soon and I want to have my vote somewhere productive.
K bye.Hydra ofmastin2andAngryPidgeon-
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