MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

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can someonet ell me who i should sheep i dont wanna read those first pages

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im gonna call sangria town i thionk

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vote 60

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hello all, would anyone like to lynch 60 w. me

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hello all, would anyone like to lynch 60 w. me

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OFF LIMITS!

oh hey zedio howve things been bud : ]

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prtety good wanna explain 2 me why youre in love w. vi ?

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Zdenek, why are we Town?

Where did I say that I think you are town?
I didn't by the way.
I said that I was going to defend you for a bit for a change of pace.
If Tierce doesn't get that, I don't know what to say.

i dont get it. can you explain why you would do that?

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i got proded. i havent read shit and ill still not have read shjit til thurdsday probdably. gomen, all

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i got prodded again. im gonna try an dget current +productive by sunday and if i blow it i guess ill replace out or w.e. siorry all

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hello?

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camn someone w. a town read on zedio tell me why hes town thank you

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Zdenek, why are we Town?

Where did I say that I think you are town?
I didn't by the way.
I said that I was going to defend you for a bit for a change of pace.
If Tierce doesn't get that, I don't know what to say.

Fair enoof!

how come your okay w. this

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iom wroking on it : ]

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oh huh maybe zeds not scuim.

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i cheated and peaked at the l8est vote count.sry all ive sinned

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vote tim

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Pretend we have written a long post here professing my love for UT and all of his opinions.

VOTE: Cerulean

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We agree with UT that cerulean has been scummy. Pre-emptive IDGAF about inevitable OMGUS accusations because fuck you don't be a dumbass.

In other news, it may just be because sangres hasn't posted as much, but they've fallen off the obnoxious-dar.

Also, apparently making another player feel like a bad person is super pro now, awesomely well done there, sixty.

Yeah that's about all we've got for now. GOALKEEPERS OUT.

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This is an emergency broadcast on 60.7 WOOF, your best source for law enforcement updates.

Tim Howard should not live to see the end of Day 1. Not after

that

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i jsust wanted2 empty quote that

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People in this playerlist who read and enjoy Tammy's catchups:
-kanyeknowsbest (because secretly he reads everything in a game several times!)

yo nacho you cant be telling people this. id like it if every1 kept thinking i dont read anything @ all yty

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hey vinny can you pls tell me about your scumread on me THank you.

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i think reck is town despite being pretty underwhelming.

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hey can i just give a general reminder 2 everyone who is reading lld as SOLFID FUcking town that lld is Absolutely Excellent @ Scum ty 4 keeping this in mind.

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dear natcho and bird, the katsuki wagon sux you guys should ditch i think

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im not getting the same town vibes from her that i was getting in fire and ice

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i agree on chamber, i like the things hes posting and the way hes posting them. my only caveat is ineed to think a little abt his play for the framing

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hey can i just give a general reminder 2 everyone who is reading lld as SOLFID FUcking town that lld is Absolutely Excellent @ Scum ty 4 keeping this in mind.

Do you think she's scum? Or are you just kicking up paranoia to kick up paranoia?

i do not have a confident read on her, but i know how as scum she can rev up from being a early common town read and honestly im going to treat everything she posts w. a grain of salt until shes mod confirmed. if you think that makes me scum then fuckin alright nacho lmao

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thtat said im pretty sure youre wrong about katsuki and also not convinced abt your shadowy read well ttyl

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re: zedio my original scum read was based on his really odd play around my 60 vote and his declaration that he was going to be doing something different. i reexamined him after his tim vote (which i really liked, the way he went abt it and everything) and his following play around that. but the real clincher for me is i put myself in his shoes, and were right on the tail of fire and ice where he became really obvscum day1 by getting stuck in the trap that is arguing w. me abt stupid shit. i take that into consideration and as scum in this game i think that he simply avoids me early since he knows it wont get him anywhere, which is pretty conflicting w. his move to jump hard on my 60 vote.

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@ cerelueo

1) n. i thought id have the time to do some work on it but i didnt. as such it did not work for my usual early d1 reads generation. pass on the sixty portion of this q
2) i had a real strong gut town read on shadowy in fire and ice. i dont have that here. i missed her color comment, point it out 4 me pls ty
3) nope. ill only do that if its to save him from the rope, otherwise i refuse to divulge how i read katsuki (ive never 1nce been wrong abt him and i intend to keep it that way)

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im not sure what youre getting @ re shadowy? are you trying to suggest scum shadowy would be more aware of faction colors? for me its straight null since theres a lot of wifom involved trying to go either way w it.

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fery how much are you and nacho discussing and or agreeing on reads?

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btw if i had 2 choose between 60 or reck id keep reck.

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vote sangria

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i dont think this is town nacho nemore

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do we only have 1 day thats fucked up

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1 day 12 hours

iove made flash wagons happen faster than that

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:|
The majority of the game has a townread on Sangres and a scumread on you because you're prod-dodging. They're also having trouble with moving votes at all. You are not going to make last minute magic happen.

how about you?

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how about when i called you town?

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zedio my original scum read was based on his really odd play around my 60 vote and his declaration that he was going to be doing something different.

So you hadn't been reading up to that point?

he simply avoids me early since he knows it wont get him anywhere, which is pretty conflicting w. his move to jump hard on my 60 vote.

I don't really see how you can possibly think this. I mean, I pretty clearly stated what I was doing. I mean the fact that I jumped on your 60 vote had nothing to do with you or your vote.

i was in the process of catching up when i made all those posts. i made them as i rea dthe thread. also dont think you really understood what i was saying abt your 60 defense

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vote tim horto

i was going to come in swinging @ shadowy 2day, but 60 kill doesnt jive as well down that alley i dont think

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venmars really not bad either

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hey vinny can you pls tell me about your scumread on me THank you.

hey vin you never answered this q. i want you to tell me about the Strong Scumread you had on me in post 330

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can someonet ell me who i should sheep i dont wanna read those first pages

im gonna call sangria town i thionk

i thought this succession of posts was scummy, since you ask the game who to sheep due to not wanting to read, and then barely a couple posts later you seem to apparently do some "reading" anyways?

how is that indicative of a scum win condition?

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its some scumtell i picked up from Empire (games ago)

i dont understand how it works can you please explain it to me and why its a scumtell ty.vm.

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hey bird how come youre restricting yourself to only two wagons @ the start of d2? what happened to plum?

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The best reason to vote for Kanye is him sidelining his vote at the end of day.
I'm still pretty much down with that.
But these are early days.

hows that make me scum?

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did it make me scum in fire and ice? did it make me scum any other time ive ever done it as town? are these things you considered?

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is this also considering the fact that i was on a useless wagon before switching my vote to sangria? does it consider the fact that there was still no way i was putting my vote on katsuki even if i hadnt voted sangria?

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sugoi

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because i wanted to lynch sangria and tim howard was not getting lynched. my votes there now, wheres yours? did you get over him?

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no it wasnt? people were moving away from tim and no1 expressed any desire in moving towards his wagon. even venmar was a bigger wagon

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but honestly that doesnt matter, tim could have been the most poppin wagon, and at that point with the posts nacho was making i would have moved my vote anyways

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i would have moved it even if i had realized how close we were to deadline

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i was prodded, gomen

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pleasiez is probably scum

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btw zed how come you never voted me while that wagon was mounting? how come you then mourned the death of that wagon?

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i dont really understand what youre trying to prove by pointing out that tim had 3 votes on him when i left that wagon to vote nacho who was posting like scum. i also dont understand what youre hoping to accomplish by pointing out that it turns out i was still busy and not posting even when i realized deadline was soon?

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tim nero venmar pleasiez zed is my scum team u guys can quote this post @ the end of the game when i get lynched for being Too Correct.

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Okay

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this ut wagon is incredibly fucking stupid.

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shadowy re ven nero i wont get hung up on those details til one of them flips scum, esp since i ahvent gone over their interactions w. a fine comb, but id probably be inclined to chalk it up to soft bussing/distancing. also ive been assuming 13:5 given that this is a faraday upick. i guess it could be 13:4:1 but im not goin there til we see some evidence of 3rd party.

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Do you really think Nero Cain and Venmar are scum together

even just role speculation wise it seems reasonably unlikely that they are scum together.

dont really agree w. this @ all

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pleasiez is probably scum

Why?

It's a mystery! Oh, wait:

I didn't really understand where the kanye votes were coming from, but the points made in 1313 and 1318 seem pretty strong and I'm not sure why the kanye wagon basically collapsed soon after this. Kanye says he moved his vote away from Tim Howard because (1) nobody was interested in voting for him and "even Venmar was a bigger wagon" and (2) he didn't realise how close deadline was. Zdenek and Shadoweh point out the conflict between this and the actual vote counts / what kanye said at the time and the result is ... general indifference?

Have you given up on lynching Kanye then? Because that's looking like a better option to me at the moment.

Maybe it's not such a mystery :roll:.

VOTE: kanyeknowsbest

yeah, alignments are random so role speculation doesn't work. We've been over this on d1. Either Venmar is scum or neither of is scum.

I agree that chamber is wrong to say that Venmar and Nero are probably not scum together because of role speculation stuff -- as others have said, that's not how Faraday uPicks work. However, I think the

conclusion

is right even though the reasoning is off - I don't think Venmar and Nero are scum together (because of their day 1 interactions, particularly the 'Nero didn't even realise I was Majiffy!' / '... obviously I did' stuff).

lol

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plum, i wasnt really impressed with cdb to begin w. so pleasiez replace in posts jive pretty well w. my expectations,.

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nero btw thats not how chaining lynches works btw.

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nero can you please explain your apparent scumread on shadowty ty

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nm you did it on an alt slip

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reck how come youre even voting me,. your vote is the only 1 thats been on me all game that im actually concerned or care abt so if u wanna talk abt it im here 4 you bud

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Kanye who else should uI vote and why

tim nero venmar pleasiez zed is my scum team u guys can quote this post @ the end of the game when i get lynched for being Too Correct.

so reread tim and he certainly crumbed his ability which means basically nothing alignment wise, just that his ability is likely real. that said hes still scum and i dont understand why his wagon crumbled, not that im sad about it shifting onto nero. his claim really just draws my attention towards his play wrt flipping awesome and reminds me of quadz buddying me in fire and ice as scum. his content since the claim certainly does nothing for me and when you consider that basically all of his voting has been on counterwagons to him, i want that kid dead.

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I'm going to sleep so I'm going to think about that while I do. Day-Inventor does seem provable enough to not wish cleansing of the fire for it immediately.

how come.

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like i was starting to town read you really hard shadowy but this skeeves me the heck out

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i thought i had a handle on this game but im really not understanding tims wagon deterioration it probably means im wrong abt something.

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The thing is I can see the suspicion on Kanye and I absolutely hated that he just kinda floated into the early game with a "not gonna read these pages" given what i know about how he reads the early game. I let him talk me out of the suspicion on him in the Wizards game for a very similar thing. HOWEVER, he's dipped out of activity in other games before and I haven't seen him on skype in like a month, so I don't know if I'm giving him suspicion for something that's not. Though in the Wizard game he pretty much worked hard to manipulate any suspicion I had of him and walked a balancing act of trying not to inflame the paranoia I had on him.

Empire has him in his poe pool though, so IDK.

do u really think i didnt read those early pages? do u really think i was saying that as anything more than early game reaction fishing?

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whtat

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I think later you did, but can't you see why I'd be suspicious after I had a similar suspicion in Wizards and

let you talk me out of it?

WELP

i dunno what you want me to respond to this w.? "well youre wrong?" do u want me to link u to times ive done that b4 (hint u were in 1 of those games, tho it was upon replacing in). idgi

also no i didnt gfigure it out

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hello, can the people who were voting timt howard but then decided they ddint awnt to vote him anymore once his claim came please explain the rationale that made that ability shift him from scum please kill him to town guess were not killing him on2 the next 1. you know who you are ty.

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vote nero

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can we do tim 2morrow pl;s

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hey reck can i ask you when you started town reading zedio?

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what do you think about it? i could use a tasty plate of wifom atm

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the better question is if lld is 100% scum why would scum be afraid of a no lynch, since that would mean scum 100% get to decide the daykill?

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whtats your issue plum?

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ISO'd Nero Cain. I don't like lynching him, seems town. Commencing reading up on the last few pages I missed now!

Not surprised NC doesn't have a reference to the doublevote in his role; it's Venmar's role, not his. (not alignment relevant)

We chose our targets according to who we thought was town.

I can see who you wouldn't be scum reading Nero, but how do you get to town?

Why do you say that the triple vote is Venmar's role, not Nero's. Seems to me like it involves the two of them.

When in day one did you give CDB the card?

this is a beautiful post, just real nice distancing and setting up easy interactions here. you hit most of the right notes that say im not scum and im not talking to my scum buddies. B+

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wont be back b4 deadline, if someone wants to make a flash tim wagon happen in the meantime PLease do but otherwise lynch nero and lynch tim2morrow ty all and godbless

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hey tammy if i get lynched im leaving it up 2 you to find out whos the scum that bailed the tim wagon after he claimed dont fuck this up like fire and ice

al;so lambda please post tomorrow fucking THANKS (im a hyuproticte)

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If UT would have gotten lynched today, empire and I were discussing taking a shot at Nero and going into 4-player, but I was pretty convinced if we lost UT today I'd lose the game in 3 or 4 p lylo, so wanted to get it done today.

i agree w. this. you guys absolutely needed to clean up today and ut's working sleepy off of him and onto plum was pretty clutch. i still maintain that lynching nero over me was 100% justifiable on your part and also that immediately jumping onto venmar the next day when he could have easily coasted it out were pretty big misplays but it all worked out.

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I'd really much prefer if we could mislynch today, but not sure how to go about it.

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yeha she really had you fuckin nailed there. its a real shame 4 her that for some reason every1 thought she was scum.