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In post 13, BotLane wrote:@Kthx- What do you think about Spif's suspicions?
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Wow I'm glad I'm such a controversial presence.
@RR Yeah it's not obvious now, but Ank posted almost immediately after the thread opened up for the day, so I made no assumptions of daytalk at all.
I don't mind your initial vote on me but your post 42 jumps too conclusions entirely to quickly for my liking. Particularly how you're already hunting for associations which has no place on page 2/3. However, I think this is falling more in line with the town Drixx I know from reading a game that you were in.
In case it wasn't obvious my vote wasn't entirely serious. It became more serious after BotLane asked someone else what they thought of my push on them. This came off as self-conscious and insecure. So I'll keep my vote for now.
Eh but I do like how they pointed out Drixx's BS despite his target being the guy who started their wagon.
Oh well idc I'm still keeping it.-
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In post 65, Reasonably Rational wrote:In RVS stage someone suggested; seriously;
Also not true.
I mean I don't end serious things with "wagon pls"
Did I want him wagoned? Yes, because RVS wagons are what help get the game moving. That doesn't mean I wanted them turbo-lynched.-
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In post 73, Reasonably Rational wrote:Spiffeh: So, that was 100% just RVS+a joke to you? There was no actual suspicion leveled at that slot?
If I had to actually assign a value to my seriousness (which is wtf) then I would say it was 10% serious. What are you trying to figure out with this question?
In post 88, Reasonably Rational wrote:What interests me at the moment is that Spiffeh seemed genuinely serious in that first post, but has showed up and claimed he wasn't, but then decided he should keep the vote on BotLane anyway.
In post 95, Reasonably Rational wrote:Spiffeh's response to the whole thing confuses me. Do you have any thoughts on why he would back up your assertion that he was just kidding, but then decide to keep his vote there anyway? That is genuinely confusing to me. You gave him a super easy way to jump on our wagon if he wanted to, but he is simultaneously claiming that he was just screwing around while also sticking with the vote. Feels like a pretty strong cognitive dissonance to me.
I thought I made it pretty clear here:
In post 64, Spiffeh wrote:It became more serious after BotLane asked someone else what they thought of my push on them. This came off as self-conscious and insecure. So I'll keep my vote for now.
that I kept my vote on him because of the way the d3x head reacted by asking someone else what they thought about my "case" rather than respond to it himself. I want to know why d3x did this.-
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I don't like that in post 98 Peregrine ignores the relevant discussion to comment on something that is pretty much pointless.
I think it'll be easier for me to read ika as the game progresses, and it seems he has some ulterior motive in speculating about the setup so I'll let him slide for now. Although I agree with Ank (I think it was him?) that ika's analysis about relevant content was very bare bones.
Cephrir and Maxous are town af. Aeronaut can be town for now.
I still want d3x to respond to my point on the previous page but I am digging the Ank head so I'll swap vote elsewhere.
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Ok catching up from page 10.
In post 236, Teridax wrote:Guys. How hard is it to differentiate me from mastin?
I'm trying to make sense of this game, but it feels s disjointed. I think we need a wagon.
Ok ew says this and then doesn't even jump on the largest one? This is just a glorified excuse to not be contributing.
At first I wrote here that I didn't know why I voted for davesaz earlier but then I got to his RR vote and remembered.
But his other posts seem like he really believes what he's saying even though I disagree with a lot of them.
Like his sass sounds town to me idk
I am pretty confident that this is town Drixx (RR). Just from reading a completed town game of his. Also townreading Heartless, Cephrir, Maxeous
Post 315 is fantastic and I agree with it wholeheartedly.
In post 425, MattP wrote:What are your strongest scumreads?
Performer, Teridax, maybe MonkeyMan (although someone said earlier that they expect shitposts from him?). I'm scum reading d3x head of Botlane but the Ank head seems business as usual so idk about that one.
Why hasn't Teridax been wagoned yet?
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No I think it's scummy and I stated exactly why in the post you quoted. Complaining about the game state and doing nothing to improve on it or contribute otherwise is filler bs and scummy.
And I agree with Heartless that furthering a wagon is more productive than casting a single vote on a player who is barely active anyway.
Where else am I taking the path of least resistance?-
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dave I explained in my catch up post.
Peregrine started the BPC wagon iirc which basically remedied my initial complaint so I am no longer scum reading him.
NS I will give you because I just completely forgot about his existence in this game due to his absence. I am still scum reading him for the same reason and there's absolutely nothing to add because he hasn't done anything else.-
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In post 516, Firebringer wrote:In post 513, Spiffeh wrote:Why wouldn't you want to hear his reason for scum reading you to progress your read on him?
Because it didn't seem like he had a serious read, that seemed like a reaction test.
I am not stupid.
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Ok gonna just start from the beginning of Day 2
Firebringer looks town and was the main "counter wagon" (if you can call it that) yesterday so I am comfortable adding him to my town list.
Immediately turned off by MattP speculating night kills and prodding subs to read through the game, it looks like scum busy work to me. I wouldn't normally mind it but that looks like it's all he's doing. But it's cool you could probably recover if you wow me.
Heartless' post 688 is bae
In post 700, Reasonably Rational wrote:For example ... that page one thing is still bothering me. I am not wholly convinced that it was "just a joke". I think that if a wagon had actually formed on BotLane, it wouldn't have been called a "joke" later on.
This is really weird because it sounds like you have prior knowledge that BotLane is scum??? Like the only way I can see you saying it wouldn't be a joke is if the wagon resulted in a scum lynch. Either way I don't know what you're getting at.
Anyone else see what I'm seeing?
Why do people think kthx is town? All he has done is color code some votecounts which gives us like no information on Day 2.
LQ is town af and lynchbait and scum will probably go after him because of it. Let's see if there are any shitty pushes on LQ...
MattP bitching about subs again which still looks like busy work. Oh ok well I look forward to his catch up!
Still cool with my Vedith vote because ever since he has been a lynch option he has just shut down and taken pot shots at anyone daring to vote for him. Doing no scum hunting himself.
I actually like Matt's RR case in post 919.
AND THERE'S A VOTE FOR LICKETYQUICKETY! RR can be scum (as if I wasn't scum reading him already lul).
Don't understand Firebringer's change of heart regarding Heartless in post 1058 when the last time I remember him posting he sheeped Heartless because he was so obvtown? Unless it was a joke in which case don't tell it again.
Although now that TTH brings it up I forgot LQ replaced Nobody Special who I was scumreading so maybe I'm jumping the gun a little.
Oh hey I agree with MonkeyMan on something. Also who his MonkeyMan?
I disagree with the notion that LQ is not lynchbait because he just says so many unconventional things I can see scum latching onto in a heartbeat.
Although I feel like MonkeyMan is also lynchbait and LQ's vote on him is atrocious.
Ok but what the actual fuck at MonkeyMan's MattP vote?
So I feel like I added almost nothing insightful to the discussion but I think RR's interactions with Performer last day is enough reason to vote for them.
VOTE: RR
Someone should engage me though because I am aware these are all surface thoughts and I want to be encouraged to look back at specific things in more detail and I can't do that on my own at this point.-
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In post 1265, davesaz wrote:@Spiffeh: How is MM lynchbait, and does calling him that imply a read?
By lynchbait I mean assuming he is town, I would expect scum to be pushing for his lynch. He is just an easy target for them to latch onto so it looks like they're scum hunting.
As for my read, I would expect him to play similarly as either alignment and he's done so little that I can actually read one way or the other so he is null.-
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