Trouble in The Cougar's Den (Game over!)

[Firebringer]

Firebringer vote for Ankiamus

Why not Davesaz?
They both look bad, difference is that Ank built up really fast and I don't trust that fast buildup.

[Spiffeh]

um no it didn't?

[Firebringer]

um no it didn't?

It was the starting wagon of today >.>
DONT TRY TO JUMBLE ME UP!

[Heartless]

something about a town slip... what does it look like to you?

I'M the one that said your defense was shit.

But he agreed.

who gives a fuck?
and he was more piling on, not "agreeing"

[Heartless]

Firebringer vote for Ankiamus

Why not Davesaz?
They both look bad, difference is that Ank built up really fast and I don't trust that fast buildup.

HOLY SHIT. IF NOTHING ELSE THIS VERY FUCKING GAME SHOULD'VE TAUGHT YOU THAT SPEED OF THE WAGON MEANS DIDDLY FUCKING SQUAT.

[Firebringer]

Shut up Anti.

@Spiffeh, okay by VC seems Dave was faster building....hmm
I should probably ISO them.

[Heartless]

and if "fast wagons" really concern you i don't know what's giving you the warm and fuzzies about dave's

[Spiffeh]

How have people not learned that sheeping anti = scum lynch?

[Heartless]

Shut up Anti.

@Spiffeh, okay by VC seems Dave was faster building....hmm
I should probably ISO them.

don't say stupid things and i will

[Firebringer]

@Anti I literally can't help but say stupid things, I am stupid.

@Spiffeh I trust Anti is town, I don't trust he is right about every goddamn person in the game.

[Spiffeh]

Then trust I am right about this one.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Ankamius
My says he is town by the ISO.
Dave is much more null once I get through his ISO.

[davesaz]

Clearly town
davesaz
Heartless
Cephrir
MattP
LicketyQuickety

Not really sure / can't remember what I'm thinking
pisskop
Firebringer
HerryPanther
Spiffeh
TheWayItEnds
Kthxbye

Scum reads (least to most)
Ankamius
Vedith
Reasonably Rational

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Ankamius - Weakest scum read. Based on some vote analysis and a remembered feeling of insecurity from some of the slot's posts. Later posting might override this, though I don't do that lightly.

Vedith - This is based almost entirely on the very bad claim, in particular claiming the detailed variant. Also I don't remember seeing any comments showing town motivation in how to use the role.

Reasonably Rational - Also based on the claim but to a lesser degree. The Drixx posting reminds me more of a game where he was scum than games where he was town. The posts seem scripted to look town. Much better fit for a SK role than groupscum due to VCA, though I can buy the VCA in terms of bussing as well. The Drixx scum game I'm comparing to featured some really hardcore bussing.

pedit: I know my post took a long time to write, but didn't expect so much activity this late at night my time.

[Firebringer]

dave I don't think your reads have changed in like dozens of pages, thats odd....

[davesaz]

Why do you think it's odd?
Plus, I think this may be the first time when I've given a comprehensive list, and there are probably several players I haven't given a prior read at all. So how would you know?

[MattP]

Yea that reads list is like so circa mid-day-2

[MattP]

Even after the flip you have scum reads on both vedith and RR?

[Heartless]

Even after the flip you have scum reads on both vedith and RR?

what bearing does the flip have on either of those?

[davesaz]

That was my question several pages ago. IMO the flip

reinforced

those reads.

[LicketyQuickety]

Clearly town
davesaz
Heartless
Cephrir
MattP
LicketyQuickety

Not really sure / can't remember what I'm thinking
pisskop
Firebringer
HerryPanther
Spiffeh
TheWayItEnds
Kthxbye

Scum reads (least to most)
Ankamius
Vedith
Reasonably Rational

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Ankamius - Weakest scum read. Based on some vote analysis and a remembered feeling of insecurity from some of the slot's posts. Later posting might override this, though I don't do that lightly.

Vedith - This is based almost entirely on the very bad claim, in particular claiming the detailed variant. Also I don't remember seeing any comments showing town motivation in how to use the role.

Reasonably Rational - Also based on the claim but to a lesser degree. The Drixx posting reminds me more of a game where he was scum than games where he was town. The posts seem scripted to look town. Much better fit for a SK role than groupscum due to VCA, though I can buy the VCA in terms of bussing as well. The Drixx scum game I'm comparing to featured some really hardcore bussing.

pedit: I know my post took a long time to write, but didn't expect so much activity this late at night my time.

I'm debating if this list is just popular opinion/what people want to hear.

[MattP]

I need to be on a comp to answer that appropriately

And I'm not on one now!

[Heartless]

yes. as you can clearly see vedith is a very popular scum read.

[Firebringer]

Except me, cause I hate popular opinion.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm going to be pissed of Vedith turns out Town.

[davesaz]

@LQ: Dude, I'm falling asleep at my computer to follow through on a comittment. Every word of it is what I think. I didn't even do any re-reading, I typed the whole damn thing from my memory of what I've been thinking about the game.