Secret Alt Mafia 2 – Game over!

[Quilford]

Alive

(8/15)

• Natural Aristocracy,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived Day 4 and won
  Titus
  rep
  ,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived Day 4 and won
  Spider Gwen,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived Day 4 and won
  Shady,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived Day 4 and won
  The Phantom of the Opera,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived Day 4 and won
  Greatvalue,
  Town Neapolitan
  , survived Day 4 and won
  Gumby,
  Town Miller
  , survived Day 4 and won
  Megafan1998,
  Town Vanilla Cop
  , survived Day 4 and won

Dead

(7/15)

• xXSexyKumquatXx
  rep
  ,
  Vanilla Townie
  , lynched Day 1 but won
  Shiba Tatsuya,
  Vanilla Townie
  , killed Night 1 but won
  Joey Tribbiani
  rep
  ,
  Mafia Encryptor
  , lynched Day 2 and lost
  You are dead to me,
  Town Vanilla Cop
  , killed Night 2 but won
  Zarko Zukirovich
  rep
  ,
  Mafia Goon
  , lynched Day 3 and lost
  the_soothsayer,
  Vanilla Townie
  , killed Night 3 but won
  Quailford LOL,
  Mafia Station Chief
  , lynched Day 4 and lost

Game synopsis

• Rules
  Setup
  Pregame
  Day 1 begins
  xXSexyKumquatXx replaces Dimitri Davidoff
  Night 1 begins
  Joey Tribbiani replaces CellPhone
  Day 2 begins
  Night 2 begins
  Day 3 begins
  Titus replaces Concorde
  Zarko Zukirovich replaces Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Night 3 begins
  Day 4 begins
  Endgame
  Mod comments

Other admin

• This game is backed up by Equinox. Thanks, Equi!
  So long as you're not playing, you can PM me for Dead / Spectator QT access.

[Quilford]

Rules

• Ethics and Etiquette
  
  
  i) All the global rules and guidelines hold in this game, and are not duplicated below.
  ii) Never link to or quote from any Private Topic provided by the mod. Loose paraphrasing should be fine.
  iii) Excessive coarse language should not be directed at other players. Frustration is natural, but keep it in check.
  iv) Don't impersonate the mod. They won't edit other people's posts except to fix tags; they won't leave other comments.
  v) Cryptography and steganography are forbidden, as are any forms of provable randomness (e.g. dice tags, random.org screenshots).
  vi) If you have outside information which alters your knowledge of the game or suspect the game has been compromised, contact the mod immediately.
  vii) Don't exploit technicalities or ambiguities in any of the rules to do something you should know is forbidden or unethical.
  
  
  Matters of Life and Death
  
  
  viii) A vote or unvote is valid so long as it contains the word 'vote' or 'unvote' directly followed by a player's name or 'no lynch', all in instantly readable unquoted bold text.
  ix) Abbreviations or misspellings of a player's name or 'no lynch' are valid whilst voting, so long as they are unambiguous.
  x) Votes and unvotes are invalid if they come from any account not listed as alive and presently in the game.
  xi) A lynch occurs when a player receives greater than 50% of all votes.
  xii) A no lynch occurs when greater than or equal to 50% of all votes are placed in favour.
  xiii) Players may continue talking after a lynch or no lynch has occurred until the mod announces it.
  xiv) Once the mod has announced their death, a player may not post further. This includes 'bah' posts.
  
  
  Actions, Activity, and Deadlines
  
  
  xv) The lengths of Day and Night phases are up to the mod but will generally be between 5 and 14 days and 48 and 72 hours respectively.
  xvi) If the Day deadline expires without a majority of votes on a player, nobody dies and the game moves into Night.
  xvii) If Day or Night actions are not submitted via PM or in bold in a mod-provided PT before deadline, they do not resolve.
  xviii) Players who do not wish to perform an available Night action should submit 'no action' or risk being replaced.
  xix) Deadlines are extended only in exceptional circumstances or if a player needs replacement. No phase ends until all slots are occupied.
  xx) Players who do not post for 48 hours will be prodded. Not responding to a prod within 24 hours or receiving 3 prods will see that player replaced.
  xxi) If a player expects to be unable to post for upwards of 48 hours, they should declare V/LA legibly, in bold, in-thread, to avoid being prodded.
  
  
  Miscellaneous
  
  
  xxii) When in doubt, ask the mod.
  xxiii) Flavour will never have any significance, hidden or otherwise, to the game.
  xxiv) Punishment for breaking the rules is determined on a case-by-case basis, and may range from a warning to a modkill or replacement.
  xxv) The mod reserves the right to add, modify, or remove rules as necessary, but will not change relevant rules during or after the fact.

Clarification about alts

• The purpose of this game was to provide an environment where players could be unencumbered by their meta. The last game was free of speculation about mains, thankfully; ideally I'd like this game to proceed similarly.
  
  
  If you reveal the identity of your main on purpose I will replace you. If you lie and falsely reveal yourself to be someone else's main I will replace you. If you alt slip or otherwise accidentally reveal your identity, I

  might

  replace you.
  
  
  I'm not going to stop you guessing in-thread as to other players' identities but I think it's against the spirit of the game. If you are on the receiving end of someone else's guesses I recommend that you just don't respond at all.
  
  These rules apply going forward.

[Quilford]

Setup

This setup was reviewed by chamber and Faraday. Many thanks to both!

A sample Role PM is below.

• Welcome to

  Secret Alt Mafia 2

  , [playername]!
  
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
  You are a

  Vanilla Townie

  .
  
  You have no abilities apart from your voice and your vote. Use them well!
  
  You win the game if:
  

  • ### all Mafia- and self-aligned players are dead and at least one
    Town-aligned
    player is alive.

  
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
  Please confirm by replying to this PM with the name of your role.
  
  The game thread is here. Good luck, play fair, and have fun!
  

[Quilford]

• Pregame
  
  
  14/15 confirmations are in. We'll begin when everyone's confirmed.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.1
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  (15)— Dimitri Davidoff, Natural Aristocracy, Concorde, Shiba Tatsuya, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Shady, The Phantom of the Opera, Greatvalue, Quailford LOL, Gumby, the_soothsayer, Megafan1998, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Day 1 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

Bump?

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.2
  
  
  You are dead to me (3)— the_soothsayer, Shiba Tatsuya, Dimitri Davidoff
  Dimitri Davidoff (2)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue
  Greatvalue (1)— You are dead to me
  
  
  Not Voting
  (9)— Concorde, Spider Gwen, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Shady, The Phantom of the Opera, Quailford LOL, Gumby, Megafan1998, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Day 1 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.3
  
  
  Gumby (2)— Spider Gwen, Quailford LOL
  Dimitri Davidoff (2)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue
  You are dead to me (2)— the_soothsayer, Shiba Tatsuya
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Megafan1998
  Quailford LOL (1)— Dimitri Davidoff
  Shiba Tatsuya (1)— Gumby
  Greatvalue (1)— You are dead to me
  
  
  Not Voting
  (5)— Concorde, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Shady, The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Day 1 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.4
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue, Concorde
  Natural Aristocracy (2)— Megafan1998, Shady
  Gumby (2)— Spider Gwen, Quailford LOL
  You are dead to me (2)— the_soothsayer, Shiba Tatsuya
  Shiba Tatsuya (1)— Gumby
  Spider Gwen (1)— Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Quailford LOL (1)— Dimitri Davidoff
  Greatvalue (1)— You are dead to me
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Day 1 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.5
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue, Concorde
  Natural Aristocracy (2)— Megafan1998, Shady
  You are dead to me (2)— the_soothsayer, Shiba Tatsuya
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (1)— Spider Gwen
  Gumby (1)— Quailford LOL
  Shiba Tatsuya (1)— Gumby
  Spider Gwen (1)— Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Quailford LOL (1)— Dimitri Davidoff
  Greatvalue (1)— You are dead to me
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Day 1 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.6
  
  
  Natural Aristocracy (4)— Megafan1998, Shady, You are dead to me, the_soothsayer
  Dimitri Davidoff (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue, Concorde
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (1)— Spider Gwen
  Gumby (1)— Quailford LOL
  Shiba Tatsuya (1)— Gumby
  Spider Gwen (1)— Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Quailford LOL (1)— Dimitri Davidoff
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3)— The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone, Shiba Tatsuya
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Damn you all for stealing my page tops

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.7
  
  
  Natural Aristocracy (4)— Megafan1998, Shady, You are dead to me, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Dimitri Davidoff (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue, Concorde
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (1)— Spider Gwen
  Gumby (1)— Quailford LOL
  Shiba Tatsuya (1)— Gumby
  Quailford LOL (1)— Dimitri Davidoff
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3)— The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone, Shiba Tatsuya
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  Damn you all for stealing my page tops

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.8
  
  
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Shiba Tatsuya (2)— Concorde, Megafan1998
  Natural Aristocracy (2)— Shady, You are dead to me
  Dimitri Davidoff (2)— Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (1)— Spider Gwen
  Gumby (1)— Quailford LOL
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.9
  
  
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  Shiba Tatsuya (2)— Concorde, Megafan1998
  Shady (1)— Natural Aristocracy
  Dimitri Davidoff (1)— Greatvalue
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  Gumby (1)— Quailford LOL
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Please be aware of the rules, especially of those that pertain to activity.
  
  The Phantom of the Opera should be up for a prod around now, but they've been having trouble logging onto their account (hopefully resolved) so I'm going to give them a bit more time.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.10
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (4)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  Shiba Tatsuya (2)— Concorde, Megafan1998
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  

  @Quilford: If I know who a player is, can I inform them if it's in a manner where my own identity isn't revealed and where it isn't a hint to other players? I'll PM you with what I have in mind if you want specifics.

  
  I really don't see the point, but if it floats your boat, sure, go ahead.
  
  Prodding Greatvalue.

[Quilford]

• Clarification about alts
  
  
  The purpose of this game was to provide an environment where players could be unencumbered by their meta. The last game was free of speculation about mains, thankfully; ideally I'd like this game to proceed similarly.
  
  
  If you reveal the identity of your main on purpose I will replace you. If you lie and falsely reveal yourself to be someone else's main I will replace you. If you alt slip or otherwise accidentally reveal your identity, I

  might

  replace you.
  
  
  I'm not going to stop you guessing in-thread as to other players' identities but I think it's against the spirit of the game. If you are on the receiving end of someone else's guesses I recommend that you just don't respond at all.
  
  These rules apply going forward and I will add a copy of this post to the Rules.
  
  Quil

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.11
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (4)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  Shiba Tatsuya (2)— Concorde, Megafan1998
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding Dimitri Davidoff.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.12
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (4)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  Shiba Tatsuya (2)— Concorde, Megafan1998
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding CellPhone and Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy. Let's pick it up a bit please.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.13
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (6)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL, Megafan1998, Concorde
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  > Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29). <

[Quilford]

Bump.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.14
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff (6)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL, Megafan1998, Concorde
  Quailford LOL (4)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  > Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29). <
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding The Phantom of the Opera.

[Quilford]

• Prodding Dimitri Davidoff.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.15
  
  
  >>> Dimitri Davidoff (7)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL, Megafan1998, Concorde, Gumby <<<
  Quailford LOL (3)— Dimitri Davidoff, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Natural Aristocracy (3)— Shady, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen
  CellPhone (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— CellPhone
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  >> Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29). <<
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Dimitri Davidoff is being replaced.
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy is being prodded.
  

[Quilford]

• xXSexyKumquatXx replaces Dimitri Davidoff. Welcome; that was monstrously fast, thanks very much!

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.16
  
  
  xXSexyKumquatXx (5)— The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Concorde, Gumby, Quailford LOL
  CellPhone (4)— the_soothsayer, Shady, You are dead to me, Megafan1998
  Quailford LOL (3)— xXSexyKumquatXx, Shiba Tatsuya, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Spider Gwen
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— CellPhone, Greatvalue
  
  It takes 8 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  >> Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-10-24 08:08:29). <<
  

[Quilford]

• Votecount 1.17
  
  
  
  >>> xXSexyKumquatXx (8)— The Phantom of the Opera, Natural Aristocracy, Concorde, Gumby, Quailford LOL, Spider Gwen, CellPhone, You are dead to me <<<
  
  CellPhone (6)— the_soothsayer, Shady, Megafan1998, xXSexyKumquatXx, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Greatvalue
  Quailford LOL (1)— Shiba Tatsuya
  
  At 8 votes, a lynch has been achieved.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  A lynch was achieved before deadline.
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Apologies for the delay. I had a medical procedure on Friday.
  
  Flip incoming...

[Quilford]

• >>> xXSexyKumquatXx,

  Vanilla Townie

  , was lynched Day 1! <<<
  
  
  
  Night 1 begins.
  
  All actions must be received within (expired on 2015-10-26 03:57:50). Please submit 'no action' if you do not want to use an action.

[Quilford]

• Joey Tribbiani replaces CellPhone. Thanks, and welcome!

[Quilford]

• >>> Shiba Tatsuya,

  Vanilla Townie

  , was killed Night 1! <<<
  
  
  
  Day 2 begins.
  
  Thirteen players remain. Also, I'm removing a prod from everyone who's incurred one so far.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 2.1
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  (13)— Natural Aristocracy, Concorde, You are dead to me, Spider Gwen, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Shady, The Phantom of the Opera, Greatvalue, Quailford LOL, Gumby, the_soothsayer, Megafan1998, Joey Tribbiani
  
  It takes 7 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-05 06:21:12).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Day 2 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

Holy moly.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 2.2
  
  
  Joey Tribbiani (7)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL, You are dead to me, Concorde, Gumby, Greatvalue, Megafan1998
  Natural Aristocracy (2)— Shady, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  
  
  Not Voting
  (4)— Natural Aristocracy, Spider Gwen, The Phantom of the Opera, Joey Tribbiani
  
  At 7 votes, a lynch has been achieved.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  A lynch was achieved before deadline.
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Flip incoming...

[Quilford]

• >>> Joey Tribbiani,

  Mafia Encryptor

  , was lynched Day 2! <<<
  
  
  
  Night 2 begins.
  
  All actions must be received within (expired on 2015-10-28 23:33:49). Please submit 'no action' if you do not want to use an action.

[Quilford]

• >>> You are dead to me,

  Town Vanilla Cop

  , was killed Night 2! <<<
  
  
  
  Day 3 begins.
  
  Eleven players remain.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.1
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  (11)— Natural Aristocracy, Concorde, Spider Gwen, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Shady, The Phantom of the Opera, Greatvalue, Quailford LOL, Gumby, the_soothsayer, Megafan1998
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-08 09:09:44).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Day 3 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

• Your mod has just noticed he accidentally stated the threshold required for a lynch at 8 votes (it should have been 7) in his votecounts yesterday. The votecounts have been edited to provide correct information.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.2
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (2)— Spider Gwen, Shady
  Shady (1)— Concorde
  The Phantom of the Opera (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (7)— Natural Aristocracy, The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Greatvalue, Quailford LOL, Gumby, Megafan1998
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-08 15:09:44).

[Quilford]

• Extending deadline (and prod timers) 6 hours due to today's downtime, and edited the most recent votecount to reflect this. Good night!

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.3
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (3)— Spider Gwen, Shady, Megafan1998
  Shady (1)— Concorde
  The Phantom of the Opera (1)— the_soothsayer
  
  
  Not Voting
  (6)— Natural Aristocracy, The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Greatvalue, Quailford LOL, Gumby
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-08 15:09:44).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy and Natural Aristocracy.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.4
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (4)— Spider Gwen, Shady, Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy
  The Phantom of the Opera (2)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Shady (1)— Concorde
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3)— The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy, Gumby
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-08 15:09:44).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding Megafan1998.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.5
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (4)— Spider Gwen, Shady, Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy
  The Phantom of the Opera (3)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Shady (1)— Concorde
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-08 15:09:44).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding Natural Aristocracy.

[Quilford]

A few people need prods; I'll try to get to this soon but am currently overworked irl

[Quilford]

Bump

[Quilford]

Bumppity

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.6
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (3)— Spider Gwen, Shady, Megafan1998
  The Phantom of the Opera (3)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL, Gumby
  Shady (2)— Concorde, Natural Aristocracy
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-08 15:09:44).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Prodding Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.7
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (4)— Spider Gwen, Shady, Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy
  The Phantom of the Opera (3)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL, Gumby
  Shady (1)— Concorde
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline is paused at 1 day, 14 hours, 12 minutes.
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Replacing Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy. Deadline paused until then.
  
  Concorde has been given the option to continue playing, from either their main or alt account.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.8
  
  
  Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy (4)— Spider Gwen, Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy, Greatvalue
  The Phantom of the Opera (4)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL, Gumby, Shady
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline is paused at 1 day, 14 hours, 12 minutes.
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Replacing Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy. Deadline paused until then. I'm going to be a bit more lax about prodding while deadline is paused.
  
  Concorde has opted to continue playing as Titus.

[Quilford]

Hi cats and kittens! We have a replacement for Dipsy lined up. Please hold...

[Quilford]

bump

[Quilford]

BAMP

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.9
  
  
  Zarko Zukirovich (4)— Spider Gwen, Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy, Shady
  The Phantom of the Opera (3)— the_soothsayer, Quailford LOL, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (2)— The Phantom of the Opera, Zarko Zukirovich
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-14 22:59:58).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Zarko Zukirovich replaces Fear Thy Name Is Dipsy. Thanks, and welcome! <3
  
  Deadline is unpaused and extended by 3 days. Prodding Quailford LOL.

[Quilford]

Sorry, everyone's going to have to wait for the flip in suspense for a few hours as I'm about to fall asleep.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.10
  
  
  >>> Zarko Zukirovich (5)— Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy, Shady, Quailford LOL, The Phantom of the Opera <<<
  The Phantom of the Opera (3)— the_soothsayer, Gumby, Spider Gwen
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— Zarko Zukirovich
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-15 08:59:50).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Your mod is an idiot and should not attempt to do mental vote counts at 2 in the morning.
  
  My apologies, I'll extend the deadline by a further 10 hours to make up for lost time.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.11
  
  
  >>> Zarko Zukirovich (5)— Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy, Shady, Quailford LOL, The Phantom of the Opera <<<
  The Phantom of the Opera (3)— the_soothsayer, Gumby, Spider Gwen
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— Zarko Zukirovich
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-15 08:59:50).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  It's 1:30 am. Please let this votecount be accurate.
  
  Prodding Natural Aristocracy and Greatvalue.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 3.12
  
  
  
  >>> Zarko Zukirovich (6)— Megafan1998, Natural Aristocracy, Shady, Quailford LOL, The Phantom of the Opera, Gumby <<<
  
  The Phantom of the Opera (2)— the_soothsayer, Spider Gwen
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— Zarko Zukirovich
  
  At 6 votes, a lynch has been achieved.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  A lynch has been achieved before deadline.
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Flip incoming...

[Quilford]

• >>> Zarko Zukirovich,

  Mafia Goon

  , was lynched Day 3! <<<
  
  
  
  Night 3 begins.
  
  All actions must be received within (expired on 2015-11-15 21:00:36). Please submit 'no action' if you do not want to use an action.

[Quilford]

• >>> the_soothsayer,

  Vanilla Townie

  , was killed Night 3! <<<
  
  
  
  Day 4 begins.
  
  Nine players remain.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 4.1
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  (9)— Natural Aristocracy, Titus, Spider Gwen, Shady, The Phantom of the Opera, Greatvalue, Quailford LOL, Gumby, Megafan1998
  
  It takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-26 08:48:45).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Day 4 begins! Best of luck.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 4.2
  
  
  The Phantom of the Opera (2)— Spider Gwen, Gumby
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Greatvalue
  Gumby (1)— Shady
  Shady (1)— Titus
  Titus (1)— The Phantom of the Opera
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Quailford LOL, Megafan1998
  
  It takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-26 08:48:45).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  What's this? People are
  posting??
  
  
  jks love y'all

[Quilford]

• Votecount 4.3
  
  
  Greatvalue (1)— Spider Gwen
  The Phantom of the Opera (1)— Gumby
  Quailford LOL (1)— Greatvalue
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Quailford LOL
  Shady (1)— Titus
  Titus (1)— The Phantom of the Opera
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Megafan1998, Shady
  
  It takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-26 08:48:45).

[Quilford]

• Votecount 4.4
  
  
  Quailford LOL (3)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Gumby
  Greatvalue (1)— Spider Gwen
  Natural Aristocracy (1)— Quailford LOL
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3)— Natural Aristocracy, Shady, Megafan1998
  
  It takes 5 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Deadline hits in (expired on 2015-11-26 08:48:45).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Titus is on V/LA.
  
  Prodding Spider Gwen.

[Quilford]

Flip later; it's 3:18 AM here and I'm on holidays.

[Quilford]

• Votecount 4.5
  
  
  
  >>> Quailford LOL (5)— Greatvalue, The Phantom of the Opera, Gumby, Megafan1998, Shady <<<
  
  Greatvalue (2)— Spider Gwen, Quailford LOL
  Shady (1)— Titus
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1)— Natural Aristocracy
  
  At 5 votes, a lynch has been achieved.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  A lynch has been achieved before deadline.
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Flip incoming...

[Quilford]

• >>> Quailford LOL,

  Mafia Station Chief

  , was lynched Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  ...
  
  ...

[Quilford]

• >>> A win condition has been achieved! <<<
  
  
  
  ...
  
  ...

[Quilford]

• >>> Natural Aristocracy,

  Vanilla Townie

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Titus,

  Vanilla Townie

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Spider Gwen,

  Vanilla Townie

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Shady,

  Vanilla Townie

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> The Phantom of the Opera,

  Vanilla Townie

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Greatvalue,

  Town Neapolitan

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Gumby,

  Town Miller

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Megafan1998,

  Town Vanilla Cop

  , survived and won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> xXSexyKumquatXx,

  Vanilla Townie

  , posthumously won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> Shiba Tatsuya,

  Vanilla Townie

  , posthumously won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> You are dead to me,

  Town Vanilla Cop

  , posthumously won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  >>> the_soothsayer,

  Vanilla Townie

  , posthumously won the game Day 4! <<<
  
  
  
  The Town has won! The Mafia have been defeated.
  
  This game is now over. The setup, Night actions, and mod comments are to be revealed.

[Quilford]

• Mod comments
  
  
  Congratulations to a pretty divided town for uniting themselves around successive scum lynches. The mechanic definitely encourages a certain level of unpleasantness which fosters that division.
  
  That said, Quailford was the only scum member who put in an acceptable amount of effort, and even then they had little hope of winning. Certainly part of this is down to problematic interactions with buddies, but I think setup related reasons played a more decisive part:
  
  1. Greatvalue, the Neapolitan, investigated them on Night 1 and learnt that they were non-Vanilla. This meant, come claiming time, a VT claim would be fatal and a non-VT claim would likely fall apart under setup spec (as happened). I think this is part of the
  normal cut-and-thrust
  that comes with investigative roles, but it appears more unfair due to the fact he was the last scum member alive when the investigation result came to light.
  
  2. Both investigative roles become exponentially more powerful when less scum are alive and especially post-massclaim when people are able to get a better idea of whether the remaining Mafia are likely to be Vanilla or not. This one is
  completely on me
  . I did not take this into account at all and only saw the Vanilla Cop as useful at exposing fakeclaims and possibly helping the Neapolitan sniff out a Mafia Goon.
  
  So, in hindsight, the Deputy role should not have been included. It tricked the Station Chief into thinking they were out of danger to some extent, when in fact the Vanilla Cop was coming back bigger and better than ever.
  Although I still think to some extent the way in which this setup turned out was an edge case that just looks really bad for the scum because there were no protective roles
  and it's really easy for the Station Chief to use their ability to pick off the investigative roles by working backwards from their breadcrumbs and two of the scum slots fell without putting up much of a fight
  grumble grumble whine grumble whine whine
  
  
  I doubt I am going to run another game under the Secret Alt mechanic. I thought it might be worth running another Secret Alt game because everyone seemed to like the mechanic enough in the first game and I thought the lack of activity was down to prod timers and deadlines being too long. But no, I think people just feel less shame from lurking / getting prodded / getting replaced if their mains aren't involved. If anyone were to run a similar game, I would recommend making the players agree to having their mains outed if they're replaced due to inactivity. (I came up with this idea independently of Shiba Tatsuya, but feared player revolt if I raised it after the game had already begun.) I also would wait until ms.net came up with a quicker and easier way of switching accounts, or alternatively just run the game off-site.
  
  Here's the Dead PT. Here's the Mod PT, including all the Night actions, Role PMs and discussion between me and spoilered players. I'll reveal the Scum PT if Quailford agrees to it.
  
  Thanks everyone, and special thanks to our replacements, many of whom replaced into slots that were very close to being lynched. Keep any post-game discussion civil or I'll lock the thread.

[Quilford]

I would think a reviewer would point out the problems with this.

In review, people were actually worried town would have too little power!

Vanilla Cop was also in there to shield the Neapolitan from the Station Chief. I mean, given how pro-breadcrumbing the current meta is, it becomes a 50% chance you've picked off the most important PR rather than a 100% chance.

[Quilford]

I must say, the Station Chief is a really clever role; it gives scum quite a bit of useful power (knowing where all of the Cops visit), but it's info that is entirely useless to them unless they apply skill. It can be quite difficult to create a role like that. Well done.

Thanks, I really appreciate it. (:

I'm not going to get into balance conversations, but there was one problem that it was slightly broken by the massclaim; the roles have such a synergy that you see the claims and know it makes just enough sense for them all to likely be telling the truth.

Yeah, I don't disagree. Because I came up with the idea for the Station Chief and then designed the setup around it, it probably came out looking a little too perfect, like a model setup that's meant to be looked at but not played.

[Quilford]

(You listed Megafan as a second vanilla cop instead of a deputy twice, by the way.)

Eh I just flip people with the role name from the most recent role PM they were sent. I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise though.

(Haha yeah I chose the Neapolitan as the primary investigative role pretty much because of your advocacy)

[Quilford]

Shadowoonie!! I think you're right, actually. I think someone persuaded me not to reveal alts at the end before the beginning of the first game so I just carried it through to this one as well. Ah well!

[Quilford]

Someone else apart from Quailford requested a me-related name but I shot that down because nope, too many Quilfords to deal with

Also, every time I try to type my name on my phone and tablet now it autocorrects to Quailford

[Quilford]

Mafia PT

[Quilford]

Also two members of the playerlist were banned during this game :I