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In post 26, TheWayItEnds wrote:post.
Answer.
In post 34, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I don't like the thread right now.
Why?
Pigeon poop.
In post 40, Aunt Jemina wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV.
This is not a serious vote.
I propose we--aw, who am I kidding.
Intuition says she's scum.
Was that an inside joke?
In post 48, Passionate Storm wrote:
It doesn't look like RVS to me....not really much to explain there.
~Titus
It should be explained.
In post 50, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 49, Passionate Storm wrote:It's early enough, I can give you time and Jeanne wants to pursue AJ for awhile, but I got my eye on you.
Since when is provocation early in the game a scummy thing to do?
I'll be careful. Eagles don't fly well in storms.
Too many posts.
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In post 57, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:The Eagle turns his head to see a tiny bird, calling his name.
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Perhaps. Hopefully, we will not need to find out. But this is a good thing to keep in mind, friend. This is a good reason why I may need you yet.
I know it doesn't add us any content but I geuninely LMAOd when I was reading this post. ^_^
In post 59, Passionate Storm wrote:@51 both heads agree you look like scum. Jeanne's gut.
Anen is making a long post but it sheeps what is already done.
VOTE: Anen
~Titus
I was planning to give you the book titled How to Make out Plenty of Things out of Nothing for Christmas, but I think you already have that one.
In post 79, Spider Gwen wrote:It was more serious than RVS. That was my point. I just found it suspect that you pursued that instead of a non-random suspect. That's not what I expect from a town Titus. But I can see scum Titus being very cautious and feeling things out. An Anen vote doesn't change that.
You needn't get that book either.
In post 87, Passionate Storm wrote:Green, u want to post without knowing which head is which. Best to find scum first and establish ourselves as town.
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100, 103, whatever. I feel like Laura. In the middle of the events without doing anything.
In post 116, Klingoncelt wrote:FoS: Passionate Storm
I'm not sure if what you're doing is D1 silliness or if you're both drunken Scum.
Oh, bolded FoS-es, I like them just as much as a 23 cm high Clotilde singing Kylie Minogue in my wardrobe. Luckily, I don't have the latter one. Need I have the former one?
By the way, I think that gameplay is just the thing I've expected from that Hydra.
Oh wait, let me be a hypocrite, shall you?
FoS: Klingonette
In post 122, grapes wrote:VOTE: passionate storm
literally only good things can come from wagoning this
FZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT
Frankly, am I the only one who's not scumreading that Hydra? See above!
In post 124, T S O wrote:VOTE: Aneninen
I agree with Titus that he looks scummy, but you can do her either.
As if you didn't know me, TSO.
By the way, hello again!
AuntJennina, your 128 is <3 vote included
In post 143, Errantparabola wrote:Nothing in 142 actually matters that much... Eagle is probably town. I see where you got the whole non-voting shit from now.
In post 144, Errantparabola wrote:I take that back. I don't think Eagle is town. More like null. UNVOTE:
Give me some time to think
WHUT?
Unvoting him after you modified your read from town to null?
In post 151, Elyse wrote:First you vote for me in the sign-up thread and now here...
I bet you remember NeuroScience... you were so cute when I was after you and you were flailing all the time. What a pity that I dropped the case and lost the game to you later. Nevertheless, I want to see that again.
In post 151, Elyse wrote:Good vote. I also thought something seemed off about Anen's tone. And as stupid as RVS is, Anen's RVS on me did seem kinda forced and safe as well.
Yeah, whatever I do it's scummy because it's not Aneninen-ish. But when it is, it's fluffy or wall-y or nullcontent-y or simply dumb.
Later posts. Itlepip and Spiffylop could be town.
In post 189, Elyse wrote:In post 184, Spifflop wrote:Titus, how are you perceiving that whole elyse/garmr exchange? I feel like garmr looks REALLY fucking town there, elyse not so much.
From what I remember from Elyse, she isn't TOO hard to catch out as scum. Interested in your thoughts, hun
Excuse me but my win rate is very good as scum.
What sort of pigeon poop answer was that?
Bad vote.
In post 221, Shiro wrote:I feel you Anen I went to sleep and boom 9 pages
Are you scum or Clotilde?
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Okay, that's all for now.
I'm shamelessly sheeping my strongest townread who's actually Spiffyloop. I don't think in a large Setup like this scums would get involved in early-fights eagerly, and from the little-content players Klingonette pings me the most.
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So you don't want to be Clotilde. How sad. I really wanted to establish a firm townread on you, but eh.
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Mobilpost.
Für Elyse and others.
I simply try to be funny instead of tiring and/or annoying. I obviosly need to adopt a better gameplay than I've had since the summer. That's all.
If you lynch me because of that, I'll stay alive in my next game longer. In this particular game I' m town.
Elyse. Do you want to be Clotilde?
I like this Eagle because of his style even if I don't know his alignment.-
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In post 250, Alchemist21 wrote:Who is Clotilde?
Do you want to be Clotilde?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=62686
In post 256, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
wish granted?In post 223, Aneninen wrote:
In post 151, Elyse wrote:First you vote for me in the sign-up thread and now here...
I bet you remember NeuroScience... you were so cute when I was after you and you were flailing all the time. What a pity that I dropped the case and lost the game to you later. Nevertheless, I want to see that again.
Not known yet. She doesn't seem to want to be Clotilde, which is not a good sign.
In post 270, Errantparabola wrote:
In post 223, Aneninen wrote:Unvoting him after you modified your read from town to null?
Is this a problem?
Unusual at best.
In post 275, Elyse wrote:@errant
I've played with Anen before. Amidst all the pigeon weirdness he usually has some decent observations and votes. I'm seeing a difference in this game. I also dislike his willingness to provide self-meta of when he got lynched for similar reasons. He's aware of his own meta and could imitate it as scum and be all "look I acted this way when I was town see"
Wow-wow-wow, are you searching for a card in your hand pondering about what you deal next... Let's hope together it won't be the Regardless of Card, shall we?
Also, Elyse, since Kill all Townies I haven't had any game I played well in. (Yeah, I know I was outplayed in KaT but at least I tried everything I could... and it almost worked.) You can check it if you wish. My recent meta, therefore, is full of dumbplays and some tries that didn't work. In other words, I'm aware of it, of course, because I want to "pull together" something useful as a gameplay.
In post 289, Alchemist21 wrote:Because it look like he's trying to force a sense of confidence in his posts in an attempt to get people to just go along with what he says. I've seen Anen correctly tunnel a scum player for an entire game without snark, so I don't really believe it's necessary for Town Anen or that it's coming from Town Anen.
See above!
So... someone actually found that. ^_^
In post 333, Spifflop wrote:Alchemist, grapes, and Klingon would all be good wagons.
Where is Klingonette by the way?
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In post 360, Aunt Jemina wrote:<3 (Nenny is sweet.)
In other news, Exxy (Extrapolated Eagle) is definitely sweet.
(Thus, the dual Nenny/Exxy wagons are both bad and at some later point will be examined for finding scum.)
Both heads of Spiffyloppy are also strongly sweet.
Why are we so sweet?
In post 372, Elyse wrote:@AJ
Why are you townreading Alchemist? I've found his few posts scummy.
And yeah Kling deserves votes but parking a vote on him now is fruitless since he hasn't posted since his FoS.
To tell the truth, I had started developing a scumread on Elyse, because of her long posts (which sounded like the scumElyse I'd met), but this one is very town.
(1) If she were scum she'd be happy about Alchemist's vote on me and they could chase me together.
(2) She's right, Klingonette needs to post more and it looks like a perfect vote-parking place. Even if my vote is there, but yeah, I hope I'll find a better place for it.
(At this point I unvoted but when I saw Klingonette's later posts I thought my vote could stay there.)
In post 383, Aunt Jemina wrote:Who said anything about a vote park? I'm voting Celty because I want her lynched.
Erm, that doesn't match your list posted in 364, and I don't think Klingonette could be a good "cornerstone" of scumhunting right now.
(In general, reading your posts is like talking on *Orzese*.)
In post 402, itlepip wrote:Pedit: yay... at what point to we policy him for speaking in recognizable english?
At least three players are posting in a very weird style, eg. see above!
In post 441, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@Klingon, if everyone (or most everyone) backed off right now, how soon could you read the thread and share reads?
I don't think she'll get lynched without posting a readlist. This post came very early, according to the vote amount on her. I remember doing something similar as scum in another game...
In post 444, Passionate Storm wrote:
You should be lynched for this comment. You don't back off from people in hopes they give content, you threaten them with the noose until they comply.
So, I wasn't the only one who had the same feeling.
In post 471, Dapper Stranger wrote:In post 447, Elyse wrote:I'm surprised TSO isn't a presence
Why? That one is rarely having a presence D1.
Erm... a man nods. (Am I doing this right?)
In post 494, Shiro wrote:So clotilde was a princess that turned Christian turned her husband Cristian and then became a saint.
Not a historical Clotilde.
So, who wants to be Clotilde? Shiro? Klingonette? Elyse? Maybe SpideyGwenny, Eagle or Jeminah?-
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In post 500, Shiro wrote:
http://turtledove.wikia.com/wiki/Clotilde_Barford ??????
I dunno help me here Anen DX
Stop guessing. If you're town you have nothing to be afraid of.
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In post 503, Dapper Stranger wrote:A man is explaining how this is just so. If a man is saying persons A, B, C, and D are scum and is wrong on B and D then it is providing common ground for persons A and C to share with the other two. Persons B and D, knowing they are falsely accused, are then susceptible to unwittingly playing for scum and a man's correct conclusions are thrown out as well.
A man understands another man's logic. But man should not forget that the example given above can provide more information if the reads are revealed.-
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In post 507, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:You don't make enemies of your town reads, at least not in my experience.
Have we met before?
By the way, I don't think I care a lot about getting friends or enemies.
In post 509, Shiro wrote:In post 504, Aneninen wrote:
Stop guessing. If you're town you have nothing to be afraid of.
So, do you want to be Clotilde?
Then uhm sure, I am game
Hmmm... let me read a bit first.
By the way, Garmr looks town. His scumposting style is different, according to my experience.
In post 527, grapes wrote:im still curious why your strongest townread is scum, though, if you don't mind
???
In post 528, grapes wrote:mostly because 116 is a town post in the first place
What was so town in that post?
In post 535, Alchemist21 wrote:I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game. That or some kind of neighborizer/masonizer are the only reasons I can think he'd be asking about Clotilde. That alone makes him unlikely to be group scum at least. I still think he's snarkier here than he usually is; even the game he linked doesn't really have snark.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Varsoon
I don't like how he said him posting would be a bad idea. Varsoon, I want some of your thoughts on the game.
Was that enough reason for a vote?
Do you want to be Clotilde?
In post 539, Alchemist21 wrote:Why wouldn't I? If he can change alignments then he's probably not an immediate threat to the Town and not worth pursuing right now.
As I told, I can't change alignments. But if I could I'd be the best Day1 lynch ever. Although in this case I'd never post anything about my abilities.
...
Do you want to be Clotild?
In post 541, Varsoon wrote:
Why don't you take a look around? There's nothing I can do about it right now.
Soon I'll be dead, and you with me.
No, sorry. You can't be Clotild.
But this time actually... What The Pigeon Poop Was That???
I wanted to say it before, but pleeeease post under your Hydra or quote-fix your slips. Thanks!
In post 544, PeregrineV wrote:In post 40, Aunt Jemina wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV.
This is not a serious vote.
I propose we--aw, who am I kidding.
Yes!
I feel the love!!
Do you remember that large game we met for the first time? You posted a long readlist. Can you do the same here?
In post 549, Spider Gwen wrote:In post 373, Passionate Storm wrote:In post 274, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:In post 270, Errantparabola wrote:
You've already proven you can think ahead. What's to say that you didn't put your neck on the line just so that you can use this defense later?
I personally don't believe it, just want to hear your response.
Far too risky. I'm a horrible actor. I did try to gambit once as scum and I don't think I've ever been lynched faster, with the exception of my first couple mafia games - I was annoying as crap (still kinda am, I guess) and stupid and thought that everyone that voted me must be scum.
When I gambit as I have a hard time figuring out how to read people without cutting my options down too much. I haven't played scum much before.
If you're a terrible gambiter, why would you deliberately try a gambit to draw votes to me and suppose it would succeed?
I feel even worse for calling that a possible slip. This is a horrible post.
Eagle I am so sorry...
Which one was that horrible out of all those quotes?
In post 556, Elyse wrote:Meh my scumread dissipated with your continued posts. I'm not really townreading you but I'm not interested in lynching you today. My concerns about your tone were eased by dealing with EE myself and your points have been good.
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In post 559, Spifflop wrote:I meant to say "Anen" not elyse
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In post 568, Varsoon wrote:
That's my job. Trust me or kill me. In the end, it'll come out the same.
I won't fail you.
Okay, I trust you. So, are you saying that Elyse shouldn't be Clotild?
In post 573, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Elyse if you're town, alignment claim
What sort of answer do you expect?
In post 574, Alchemist21 wrote:Varsoon's "I'll be dead, and you with me," line sounds familiar. Maybe his character says that? Either way I don't like his response there. A refusal to give his thoughts plus a threat of death doesn't sound like a Town mindset.
Hmmm... having been thinking about Varsoon I think I know what he's up to. And I can't see anything anti-town there. He may be useful later, I may be useful earlier. Or (as usual) I'm misreading everything.-
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In post 579, Passionate Storm wrote:Why so obsessed with Clotid?
Town.
In post 584, Elyse wrote:What the fuck is clotilde
You needn't care. Varsoon will care about you.
In post 588, TheWayItEnds wrote:oh good you might actually be town.
If that went for TSO, I have the same feeling about him.
In post 609, Errantparabola wrote:Why would I vote a null read?
Why did you vote a townread before?
In post 612, Spifflop wrote:I really hate the Eagle wagon. He seems like lynchbait 101 to me.
In post 613, itlepip wrote:I am feeling pretty cold about the Eagle wagon, he actually feels like the easy mislynch today for me.
I've been thinking about the same. Details will be given if needed.
In post 613, itlepip wrote:Elyse's last post reads soo scummy to me...
Let Varsoon do his job.
In post 619, itlepip wrote:EBWOP: That post didn't make any sense, sorry. Basically I missed a few posts, keep doing what you are doing, my post was more for the EE fence sitters like Elyse.
Town.
In post 620, Spider Gwen wrote:
In post 389, Aunt Jemina wrote:grapes (5): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, itlepip, Passionate Storm
This is not a wagon on a sour player.
There's actually only 2 names there that I hate.
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In post 624, Spider Gwen wrote:In post 403, Passionate Storm wrote:Let's just focus on town blocking.
Unvote
Vote Stormy
Lynch her! (I removed the other 44 "Lynch her's)
Too enthousiastic.
Haven't you played with Titus before?
In post 638, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 541, Varsoon wrote:In post 535, Alchemist21 wrote:I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game.
No. I don't believe it.
You're gravely mistaken.
Why don't you take a look around? There's nothing I can do about it right now.
Soon I'll be dead, and you with me.
What a weird post.
Are you posting in character/flavor, or do you have a tragic role?
Am I the only one who thinks this was Rolefishing?
Klingonette, do you want to be Clotild?
In post 639, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 555, Aneninen wrote:Before posting anything else: I'm not alignment changing.
And anyone who told that I wouldn't be a good lynch if I were Masonizeror Cultis playing bad. If I were Cult I'd be the best Day1 lynch ever.
Why did you underlineor Cult?
If I were Cult, I'd be the best Day1 lynch.
In post 640, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 570, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Oh Shiro beat me too it. I noticed something late. Oh well.
FOS Alchemists
Now let's lynch Elyse
Watch the FoS. You know what that did for me.
You've got a point.
In post 643, Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: I'm going to pass. I think it'd be more useful on someone else.
Naw. I start thinking you'd be the perfect Clotilde.
In post 645, Klingoncelt wrote:When I'm Scum nobody notices me on Day 1. When I'm Town everyone starts screaming for my head as soon as I make my first post on Day1.
Wrong. Crack in Time?
In post 652, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 627, Spifflop wrote:whos the scum on your wagon, kling?
Passionate Storm and itlepip for sure,
maybe you, AJ, &/or Elyse (Elyse is not looking like solid town right now.)
Aneninen, I never could read him, so maybe. The Cotilde thing is creepy btw.
The first two names are not scummy, nor Spifflop.
That's a hard question, though. You could be a good Clotilde too. Let me think.
(Answer for the previous post)
In post 655, itlepip wrote:So everyone on your wagon....
Ehehehehehehehe!
In post 662, Elyse wrote:I don't know why he would point out that he was a possible alignment changer role and then unvote him. Masonizer isn't alignment changing, cult is.
A', FINALLY someone!
In post 695, Shiro wrote:Anen are you being cryptic on purpose?
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In post 701, Shiro wrote:I am assuming kling and spider are the two above me?
To tell the truth, there's a third idea. I'm still thinking. (Were I a bit smarter!)-
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In post 708, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Welcome, Ladies and Gentlemen to the Elyse is Scum post!
Varsoon will *dance* with Elyse and that's enough for me on Day1.
In post 712, Passionate Storm wrote:Birds of Prey for the win.
Nnnnnnnnnnn a Warbird beats a Bird of Prey any day of the week.
(You've missed some Fluff-eninen, haven't you?)
In post 719, Errantparabola wrote:Somewhat disappointed that my catchup completely slipped under the radar. Does anyone have anything to say about it? I'll respond to the last 4 pages when I have some more time as well.
Nnnnnnnn I responded something if my memories are correct. Else I'm amnesiac or Charlotte.
In post 731, Spider Gwen wrote:In post 529, grapes wrote:
also, short version is spifflops reads are fake
you'll get the long version after i see some responses
And this too. You seem to just be throwing things out. I want to see what you're thinking.
I must have missed that one from Grapes but actually it looks like pigeon poop.
In post 732, Spider Gwen wrote:Stormy's. That question is awfully loaded. It is only meant to make Eagle look worse. There was no interest in finding out his motives.
Nnnnnnn I can't see a ScumStormy here.
In post 733, Spider Gwen wrote:
This is a scumtell for Titus. She pulled something similar in Organic Chemistry. She should know better than to ask this. This is fishing.
Whut?
They seemed to be utterly ignorant about Clotild and I actually liked that reaction.
I turn my time machine on and what can I see? You, looking in the mirror and gazing your Clotild-self.
In post 738, Elyse wrote:My question wasn't an attempt to get votes off of Spider Gwen...I'm scumreading her myself. If you look at randomiget's ISO, it's basically empty. He's using his vote on Spider Gwen to coast through the game and not commenting on anything else. I don't have a problem with his vote, but the fact that he's using it as a shield.
Oh, is he in the game? Not a good sign that I ask that question from myself.
In post 746, Errantparabola wrote:1. I've seen scum start wagons, scum hammer, scum sheep. I've also seen town do all these things. Sheeping doesn't equal town and I think that most people know that. From what I see, Elyse has been actually making poitns on here reads and that makes her accountable for them.
2. Not understanding number 2, can you explain
3. I also don't really see Elyse sidelining, could you point me to some things you've said about this?
Eagle I really honestly appreciate the effort you've put into this game. Doesn't make you town or scum, but I respect it none the less and I'm interesting in hearing your response to this.
NHHHHHH!
Who knows the feeling when you're observing a bird with a pair of binoculars and someone grabs your binoculars for a second and when they give it back to you, all you can see is the landscape instead of the cute little bird?
This post felt like so.
In post 756, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Also get out, Elyse. We're legitimately trying to find scum here. You wouldn't want to impede town from finding scum, would you?
Erm, how exactly this post matches your scumread on Elyse?
In post 761, Klingoncelt wrote:The Clotilde thing is driving me up a wall too.
Cool townies are willing to be Clotild. It's very "in" nowadays.
In post 766, Klingoncelt wrote:Titus' play was very strange. (So was Wgeurts' and LQ's.)
Why was the part in brackets important?
In post 777, Spifflop wrote:Are you claiming Town Doctor or are you talking about your role in Twilight Zone?
If you don't stop talking about Twilight Zone I'll start posting about padlocks.
(Warning. Padlocks have nothing to do with this game, according to my very limited knowledge.)
Klingonette, 790 Was that a readlist? And players keep telling that I'm useless.
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In post 814, Klingoncelt wrote:And I wasn't rolefishing. I don't give a fuck about your role.
Alignment, now that's another story. I'm hoping you're Town.
Oh shyt, you DO give a f-ck. You give a lot of f-ck.
You really want to know who Varsoon is and you really want to know who I am.
Details?
In post 860, Aunt Jemina wrote:
Yes it does.
The list I posted in 364 was a list of all the voters on you and Exxy.
It was not a list of all my scumreads.
Celty, for instance, was not among them.
The list in 364 augmented my reads; it was not the basis of them.
Okay for now.
In post 866, Dapper Stranger wrote:If you are following that LOGIC (disregarding your personal reads, just the logic), would you agree proving Spitflop scum is clearing Celty in whole and soft clearing Elly at the same time? If so and if a man is just so in his evaluation will a lady work with a man for a day?
Another logic suggests that a man is trying to save one of those ladies.
Meanwhile intuition wants to Clotild.
In post 875, inte wrote:ok i got up to page 15 before i said fuck it
whats the rundown and whos town?
876 was not a bad answer, but it was a partial answer.
In post 880, Shiro wrote:In post 876, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Shiro is doing the same but more likely scum
Ok I wouldn't exactly call this
Beetlejuice?
In post 885, Elyse wrote:In post 882, Randomnamechange wrote:Starting to scumread itlepip. Seems a bit dodgy. Might switch votes if spidey returns and interacts with me.
This is scum.
I've specifically asked your thoughts on the current wagons and situations and you ignore them. Instead, you basically giver Spider Gwen instructions on how to get you to remove your vote on her and threaten to switch it to itlepip, who isn't an option for today. You continue to hide behind your reads and refuse to give opinions about the current gamestate, which will allow you to tag along to whatever wagon you want as deadline approaches.
I didn't like that post either and this is a kind of nice explanation, why.
In post 897, T S O wrote:Why are you townreading me? I can understand why certain people are, but I'm not so sure about you.
Your infrequent presense matches the games we met and you were town in. As scum you were much more active (and I bet you remember that game). Caveat, on the other hand: there was a single game I replaced in and I remember townreading you but you were scum. However, that game was abandoned on early-Day2 because of a Mod error.
In post 906, TheWayItEnds wrote:(1) like for instance, i want you and eagle to stop posting pages of nothing.
(2) and for garmr and eagle to stop arguing over fucking vocabulary.
(3) and for anenenenenenen to stop baiting people into talking about clotildedededed
(4) and for varsoon to stop baiting people with quotes for no reason.
(5) and for me to stop having to roll my eyes at this game every time i open it.
(1) Eagle could concise his reads but Storm have hardly posted anything considering the fact that Titus is there.
(2) That's not the most important thing anyway.
(3) That's not happening.
(4) Ask Varsoon but I think the answer will be the same as for (3)
(5) Good idea.
In post 910, Errantparabola wrote:I'm sorry... what?
You seemed to have turned a quite definite post into a vague one.
In post 911, Randomnamechange wrote:I tell you what, as i'm in a good mood i'll give you a readslist tomorrow when i'm on my computer
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Klingonette.
This seems to be off, but answer the question.
You're alone on a planet and come across me, a Romulan, alongside a Borg temporary disconnected from the Collective. You know that I'm able to "dissimilate" him and if I'm successful you may get back a long lost member of your crew. Your ship is available for beaming up but there's noone there (nor nearby) who could perform a successful "dissimilation". I'm severly injured, being me up may or may not kill me. You have a medkit. The Borg is obviously after me, and you don't know how long it takes to them to get me.
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(B) You kill both of us because it's a trap.
(C) You beam both of us up. It is worth the risk.
(D) You try to heal me on the spot, hoping there will be enough time for that.
(E) You ask for reinforcement and prepare for a groundfight.
(F) You ask for an away team consists of a doctor and a scientist. The doctor heals me, the scientists examines the Borg. If the Borg arrives you engage them to buy some time for all of us.
(G) You ask for a bigger away team to make it sure that I can be beamed up. Then you make me "dissimilate" the Borg and ask for ransom from the Romulan Empire.
(H) You beam me up. If I'm still alive you beam up the Borg too. If not, you leave him there.
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In post 914, Dapper Stranger wrote:
A man is bashing his head in his hand wondering how this on is misinterpreting that a man is believing both ladies town and is explicitly trying to save both.
Why a man is thinking Klingonette is town?
In post 918, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Aneninen, shiro, and varsoon, are you two planning on taking part in a lynch today? Or is that a bad idea/
We two? Maybe the other two. As I've told it before, I'm not interested in an Elyse lynch Today.
In post 922, Alchemist21 wrote:@randomidget; Do you have any reads yet? Anything you wanna talk about?
@Extrapolated Eagle; Could you please try to be more concise with your posts? Honestly, I do skim/skip them a lot because not only do you have lots of posts, but most of them are pretty big ones. Yes, a 20+ player game is going to mean a lot of reading, but that also means you shouldn't be making needlessly excessive posts.
@TSO; Talk about Varsoon with me? If I'm missing something important about him I'd like to know, otherwise I think he's pretty scummy here and I get the sense you were Townreading him based on what you said.
???
There's been so many things happening and are you asking these?
Randomidget about his reads – why him? Why not anyone else?
Eagle – yeah, that's true
TSO – it's good that you want to speak to him but why about Varsoon? Plenty of us are townreading Varsoon.
In post 922, Alchemist21 wrote:Anen is Town if he's not some 3rd party (also, for the people saying I should have kept voting Anen if I thought he was a cult-type role, he's asking people to be Clotilde which I'm assuming is a name or title and would mean he can only have himself + that one person with him, and is therefor not a an immediate threat if he is a cult recruiter).
That makes no sense.
In post 922, Alchemist21 wrote:I don't have an opinion on Klingon or Gwen because everything about them has just felt like noise to me. I think I understand the Klingon wagon, but I never got the Gwen wagon.
This doesn't add up either. Either you have a read on those players and in that case you must have an opinion about the wagons too, or you don't have any reads (which would be strange) but in that case you wouldn't understand the wagons at all.
Also, besides Varsoon who are your scumreads?
In post 930, Klingoncelt wrote:Varsoon is Luke Skywalker and he will never go to the Dark Side, so Varsoon's Town and that's all that matters. I truly do not a single fuck give about his role.
As for you, bucko, I'm not the one that's dangling Clotilde in front of everyone. I want to know who she is, not what you are.
I still strongly think you do care about both of us.
If I said you wouldn't be Clotilde, would you be happy?
In post 936, Spifflop wrote:In post 2385, hiplop wrote:death in family might be a little more absent than usual for a few days. will try to still post if i can
We all feel sorry for your loss.
Even if the whole game is about shouting at each other, waging flame wars against each other, making others upset and getting upset because of others, at moments like this I hope you can feel that you're amongst friends after all.
Klingonette, there are contradictions in your 947. Eg. TWIE is null, Inte and PeregrineV are scum for similar reasons. SpiderGwen seems to be the strongest townread of yours and it's based upon your Passionate read.-
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In post 1466, Aneninen wrote:I'll catch up latertodaytomorrow.
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Catching-up.
Firstly, Dapper's 958. I see your points, but have you considered they're a hydra? (I've just started cathing-up, sorry if this has been pointed out.)
In post 961, Alchemist21 wrote:What doesn't make sense about my explanation for the cult thing?
And lastly, if I had other scumreads besides Varsoon I would have said so in that post.
I've explained it a couple of times. The sooner the Cult is out the better it is.
And I still can't get it why Varsoon is your only scumread.
Random's readlist in 966 contains just as much information as a cubic metre of deep space contains astatine.
In post 972, Randomnamechange wrote:Also,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: spifflop
Doesn't look like spidey is happening today.
Eeeeeeeeeeek!
I'm quoting Antihero right now:
al;kdjfal;kj !!!!!
UNVOTE:
Alchemist's 984 is a DAFUQ, especially the vote.
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Okay, it's simply not working with 20+ pages to read.
Anyone, anything I should be aware of?
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I'm terribly sorry for not being able to be here for a couple of days, which has actually happened because of previously unseen reasons.
Since it seems to be impossible to catch up and pay attention to everything, I'd like to ask the following players to summarize the recent events.
Passionate Storm, Spifflop, Spider Gwen, Klingonette, Varsoon, DapperStranger.
I hope at least some of them will post something. (The list is not random, it's based upon suspected activity and my former reads, including town and scumreads too so that I may remain unbiased.)
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Firstly, I'm not feeling the Klingonette wagon anymore. Another game has just ended, Klingonette was scum there and these posts don't match those.
In post 1835, Shiro wrote:@Anen
I would like to ask for you assistance. There is a very good alchemist wagon but it is all weak and starving it needs YOUR help to feed it so it can become BIG and STRONG.
Checked it and it's not a bad idea at all.
In post 1848, Dapper Stranger wrote:Get on Spifflop and magic is happening. All it is taking to happen is votes.
Apart from the inconsistence which could be the result of being a Hydra what else is against them?
In post 1849, Dapper Stranger wrote:This one is missing nothing really. The only thing of note to a man is Spifflop being mostly absent and letting that one's heat fade to other players while he is hiding out.
Have you checked the parallel activity of both heads?
In post 1863, Elyse wrote:Random is Kling 2.0
?
In post 1865, Randomnamechange wrote:Elyse wrote:Random is Kling 2.0
Except unlike Kling, I am willing to work with people!
Eeiiaao?
In post 1874, Garmr wrote:only 4 more to lynch kling. Calling all people to lynch kling.
Are you that sure about it? Check the first part of this post. You were there. You were scum with her.
In post 1876, Errantparabola wrote:VOTE: kling
i still think an alch wagon is a LOT better
but as people have said, people aren't going to change their minds anytime soon
Pigeon poop.
In post 1881, Spifflop wrote:Gahhhhhhhh do I have to? I'll do this later. Feeling a bit lazy lol
^^
Townpost. (It was a response to my 1832.) Details will be given if needed.
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In post 1895, TheWayItEnds wrote:actually she said feel free to target her with it.
but that you would be wasting it.
As far as I can remember I've never revealed what getting Clotildized actually does to a player. Weird.
In post 1905, Dapper Stranger wrote:Is this one just trying to find a reason for not getting on the Spiff wagon? If so, just say as much. What is or isn't happening in another ongoing game is having nothing to do with this game. Neither head was v/la at the time. Hipplop was absent for aforementioned reasons; not so with Spoffeh.
I don't think they're scum.
By the way, I remember a game long ago where I didn't post for a while because I felt there had been a shytty case on me. What if they're doing the same? (Oh, TSO must remember that game quite well. ^_^)
In post 1910, Spifflop wrote:Also Anen's catch up was really underwhelming and I expect a lot more from him.
To tell the truth, Dapper, I don't think a scum-Spifflop would post things like that about a player who's clearly unwilling to vote for them.
In post 1912, Passionate Storm wrote:Oh shit no. Dapper's Scum too.
Explain, please!
In post 1913, TheWayItEnds wrote:seriously how the fuck do you people have town reads on varsoon.
Why do you have scumreads on Varsoon?
Do you want to be Clotilde?
In post 1914, T S O wrote:If we've got a vig - you need to shoot the lurkers. You don't need to shoot consensus scumreads, and youdefinitelydon't need to shoot that one person who everyone else is townreading, but who you're convinced is scum.
Well said.
In post 1930, Randomnamechange wrote:hiplop wrote:didnt say you were null said you'd sort yourself out
Must have been someone else then.
UNVOTE:
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In post 1935, Dapper Stranger wrote:Also Anen, scum are saying the darnedest things. You are pointing this out somewhere before. Interesting that you are now reporting X can't say Y as whatever alignment.
Explain, please!
In post 1936, Shiro wrote:ANEN WHAT IS CLOTILDE DX
Not what. Who.
But it seems to be too late for Today. Unless... (let's see... the Day's not over yet...)
In post 1947, Randomnamechange wrote:IMO voting people based on the people on the wagon is awful.
No, it's not.
In post 1948, grapes wrote:not when it's pretty obvious there's at least one probably two scum on klingon right now and there's only one other option
Details?
In post 1949, Randomnamechange wrote:It's p. obvious there's at least one scum possibly two on alch and it is half the size of the Klingon wagon.
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F-ck this shyt, I don't think I'll survive long anyway and the Day seems to be close to end.
Clotilde-ize: Spider Gwen
[Person in your Role PM]
If you're Town, at the end of Today you're Namewill get changed to Clotilde. Your abilities, if you have any, will remain unchanged.
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Okay, fellas.
As some of you will have guessed, I was faking.
But,
I had a goal with it. A pity it didn't work out that well. I hoped I could absorb a Nightkill or two, but sigh, things aren't always working out in the way I want.
Still...
...I picked SpiderGwen because she really looked scummy and there wasn't a chance for lynching her. You know, I've been thinking. If the scums thought I was telling the truth, my Death would have cleared SpiderGwen – but they could have removed a threat, couldn't they?
Unless... SpiderGwen is scum. In that case they (or her faction, at least) knew after the Lynch that I was lying. In this case if I ever die, so much for the conf-town read on SpiderGwen.
This, obviously tells me that SpiderGwen is scum.
(By the way, the Nightkills suggest something. One faction – scumfaction or SK? – might have thought that Spifflop was scum. But the other Nightkill still escapes me.)
Also, I was trying to save someone else's aß last Night. Maybe more than one player? Who knows?
But now,
New Day, new lies.
This time I'm telling my name.
I'm Kitty Pryde. (A pity that Malakittens is not here lololol!)
X–Shot Something. Did I use my ability last Night? Or did not? Who knows?
And I know what you all think. I can't be trusted. How indeed!
Should you lynch me? Well, okay. In case you run out of other ideas.
But trust me, I'm town and I won't get near to LyLo. You can still waste an investigation on me (in theory, I may be Bulletproof SK).
And soon I'll examine that case on DapperStranger.
I've already read a thing or two, by the way. Random is still scummy. Passionate Storm is not. Alchemist has done nothing to change my reads on him.-
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(1) Firstly, I've read a couple of things (although noteverything) and I've seen something. I'm not explain it thoroughly, but that suggests me that Dapper is not scum.
[Side-note. I know that I jumped off the Klingonette-wagon too and I'll look really bad if the Dapper-wagon reaches lynch and he flips scum. But, if this happens, we'll have two scums out and mislynching me after that – if I don't die Tonight – is a reasonable exchange.]
(2) Dapper. Reflecting to *something*. You. Need. Not. Be. Colossus.
(3)
In post 2309, TheWayItEnds wrote:i hate you.
You've never liked me. What's the change then?
(4)
In post 2311, Alchemist21 wrote:Ok, this is definitely Town.1 I remember having a similar gambit planned for D2 of Hilariously Unbalanced Mafia 2 but never got to use it. Still, couldn't it be possible that scum just killed outside you/Gwen to avoid Doc protection?2 What do you make of Gwen/Titus hard Townreading each other?3
1. Calling me town won't change that I don't think you're town.
2. It could have happened but in that case the Doc must have been dumb. I could have found at least two better targets.
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In post 2313, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:So hey guys. I guess Kling was scum and not mislynch bait.
Who would have thunk it.
How are you all doing?
-Fire
I strongly dislike this. They're "over-aware" of the fact they was away from the Klingonette-wagon. (I mean, I was away too. I misread her. Then what? Need I care how much towncredit I earn or lose?)
That "How are you all doing?" is a kind of "I'm here so as to do nothing and willing to fly on under the radar".
Their vote in their next post is the cherry on the ginger pie.
(6)
In post 2319, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Funny how all of a sudden Gwen is on Titus' side. Are y'all cult?
It's very unlikely that Gwen is Cult. (Unless the Cult is dumb or Gwen drew the Cultist-PR.) And we have no proof there's a Cult at all.
(7) Gwen's 2320 is scumtalk. And I'm not explaining, why.
(8)
In post 2327, Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: Why do you think scum would shoot a 1-shot that had already used their shot?
What do you think of Stranger questioning the mod during the night about your role and whether you confirmed me?
Wait-oh, what makes you think that I'm 1–Shot and I used my Shot last Night? Curiosity kills the cat, I know, but Kitty kills the Spider first. ^_^
As for the other question, there are plenty of possibilities. And I think you wouldn't ask questions like that if Dapper weren't wagoned now.
(9)
In post 2333, Aunt Jemina wrote:I feel like, outside of finding the serial killer (who is probably in the townreads, sadly, but we cross that bridge when we come to it), all the scum can be found in Dappy/idgy (randomidget)/inty/grappy/Inny (who has managed to lurk by our radars unnoticed)/Alchy with the extra candidates of Exxy and Mossy (My Other Head Is Scum).
Is there a proof that there's a SK and not another scum faction (or a Vig)?
(10)
More content, Varsoon!
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In post 2350, T S O wrote:An Alchemist scumflip would make me feel a lot better about this game. It would confirm Shiro as town, for one thing. If Alchemist doesn't flip scum, that entire counterwagon and Shiro in particular should be looked at with a cold eye.
That makes sense. A pity that wagon isn't happening now.
In post 2357, T S O wrote:The townreads on Aneninen, for one person, bother me a little - he's pushing a really poor angle on Gwen here. Anyone who's pushing PS/SG scum right now is scum or bad. I do not think Aneninen is a bad player.
Why Gwen is town?
And I don't think I'm a good player.
In post 2377, Dapper Stranger wrote:Not like there's 19 days left to this phase Mr. please don't rush this because we need to make sure we get it right the first time...
This, somehow gave me bad vibes. What if I'm misreading Dapper and *something* they posted earlier...?
Why?
In post 2406, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:Jeez, TheWayItEnds that just feels odd.
No, he does not. (If helikedme, say,thatwould be odd. LOLOLOL!)
In post 2413, TheWayItEnds wrote:these are both town posts too.
Hmmm... maybe.
In post 2419, Shiro wrote:Sad that nobody is voting Alchemist : (
As soon as someone proves for me why Gwen is town, you can count me in.
In post 2424, Elyse wrote:In post 2422, Randomnamechange wrote:Merry Christmas etc.!
Also Shiro vs. alch is probably opposite alignments.
This is a scum post.
"This is town v scum but I'm not sure which is which so we better lynch both!"
^^
That!
I haven't parrotted anything for a while, have I?
In post 2428, Shiro wrote:Hmmm
You are making a good lot of sense and it would explain my need for one more scum on kling wagon.
Fine
Vote: Dapper
But alchemist needs to die next. Especially if you are wrong about Dapper.
L-1 if I am not mistaken
P.edit
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Strongly disliked.
If Dapper flips scum, Shiro is definitely scum too.
In post 2431, jasonT1981 wrote:Mod Note - From midnight tonight (UK time. So 7pm Eastern) Everyone is on V/LA until the 27th. There will also be a V/LA to all on the 31st from Midnight (7PM Eastern until the 3rd of Jan.
Mod, how about locking the thread for that time?
In post 2435, T S O wrote:
In post 2417, Aneninen wrote:Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Yule/or-whatever-you-celebrate-now Everyone!
Christmas.
That one then.
I celebrate Yule, although that takes place a bit earlier.
In post 2442, T S O wrote:Dear protective role - I saw your crumb. Nicely done.
I hate to be selfish, but I'd really love to stay alive for tomorrow, so I'm going to request your services for tonight.
^^
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In post 2586, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:TWIE that last minute vote was crap. Like seriously. You seem pretty smart. Why did you follow two of the largest hot air balloons in the game to one of the towniest men in town?
Dum-de-dum-de-dum. I'm not sure whether it's normal from him but it was indeed strange. Also, he was not voting at the end of Day1.
In post 2586, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:How about that aneninen last minute leap off of the Klingon wagon?
Misreading her because of another game she was scum in.
In post 2593, T S O wrote:My issue with this game is mainly that I have so many lurkers-slash-unknowns, like Varsoon/Anen, that I have no real way of sorting them with a reasonable level of accuracy.
Varsoon seems to be town, although his 2590 is a thing I don't get.
As for me, I can understand your concerns. However, you left out that Iwasam a proven liar.
In post 2596, T S O wrote:I really shouldn't be alive, I rarely live past d2 as town in Larges. I'm wondering why Gwen was killed instead of me. It's possible I was left alive to push the Alch lynch, but Gwen also wanted the Alch lynch, so I'm not sure that really matters. Perhaps they simply knew I'd have protection.
Erm... weren't you asking for protection?
In post 2601, Passionate Storm wrote:Spider Gwen was hiding behind Alchemist last night and wound up dead by mafia kill. This is significant because a hider cannot be attacked directly in most circumstances. This means that mafia killed alchemist or alchemist is scum and the mafia kill was interfered with. I am more inclined to believe the latter.
Is it a stupid thing to ask how do we know that piece of information?
In post 2601, Passionate Storm wrote:The serial killer also had no kill last night. Grapes was a vig shot.
Hmm-hmm-a-hmm-hmm
In post 2612, T S O wrote:Both are suspect. In particular, the former. I don't want this day to end until I speak with him.
Ask.
In post 2616, T S O wrote:I think it's time for Aneninen to fullclaim.
Oh, TSO, give me some time, okay? I've just woken up and it takes some time to make up another lie.
In post 2618, Passionate Storm wrote:In post 2615, T S O wrote:Oh, Titus - I'm thinking that VCA on Klingon's lynch points strongly towards a guaranteed scum in {inte, IAI, TWIE}. Do you agree?
Depends on Alchemist flip.
^^
That.
In post 2637, Elyse wrote:Randomidget's fixation on Spider Gwen and avoidance of the Kling wagon until the end looks even worse now.
Nothing looks good, as for Randomidget.
In post 2641, Varsoon wrote:I'm quite surprised that I have lived this long.
I am a sensor (of the FORCE), but I was waiting for later in this conflict before tuning into my Force senses. I figured it'd be more effective; that's why I have been lying so low.
To tell the truth, I thought that yesterday was quite telling given interactions and those who perished in their attempts to restore order to the galaxy.
Like it's written on the Wiki?
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I'm willing to vote for Alchemist, but there are already 7 votes on him. If I did so, he'd be at L–1, and anyone could quickhammer him before we've talked everything out Today.-
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In post 2649, Varsoon wrote:Yes, my sensitivity to the Force is no different from what you are familiar with, Anen.
I do feel some hesitance within myself; Alchemist is quickly gaining the ire of many on the council.
That said, perhaps this is just judgment meted to those who have it coming.
No, no, I think he's scum, I just don't want to end the Day yet.
In post 2650, Passionate Storm wrote:@Aneninen, You should read the wiki on hider. They are untargetable by night actions. Instead, they get killed if scum murder the person they hide behind.
How do we know she was hiding behind Alchemist?
In post 2651, Aunt Jemina wrote:While I would certainly hope that we stopped a serial killer, my personal theory is that we have an odd-night serial killer.
...because?
In post 2651, Aunt Jemina wrote:I would be voting for Alchy, but I believe it would be the hammer, and there is much to discuss today.
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In post 2656, Randomnamechange wrote:We know she hid behind Alchemist because passionate storm was part of the team that shot him.
VOTE: passionate storm
Spoiler:
In post 2661, T S O wrote:Anen - why did you lie? It served no purpose, allowed you to fluff around instead of playing for an entire day, and just all-around obfuscated any attempts to sort you.
It's had a goal.
I saw Varsoon and ...someone else doing something on Day1, so I decided to draw the attention to myself. Partly because of absorbing a possible Nightkill or two, partly because of examining others' reactions.
The PR for Clotilde came later. Originally, I wanted to throw it in earlier, but because of IRL things it was too late for my original plan. Yet again, I wanted to examine all the reactions to it. But still, I pulled out quite a couple of reactions. The most important three were Shiro (who I think is town), Alchemist (who I think is scum), and obviously, SpiderGwen (whom I was wrong about for a long time, sorry).
On Day2, I thought Dapper might be a Doc, because of something he'd posted, but a later post from him made me doubt that. Again, I was too slow. By the time I realized the whole Passionate-Gwen thing the Day had been practically over. (Also, I think I realized something else too, but I don't want to talk about it yet. It's a *someone* must be a *certain town-PR* thing.)
Now, on Day3, I really, really want to know Varsoon's results.
For this Day, let's say something surprising. How about this: Kitty Pryde, Vanilla Townie? Is it true? Is it fake? Is it partly true? ^_^
(By the way, I think that Clotilde-izer idea could be a funny town-PR if it existed...)
In post 2664, Randomnamechange wrote:
PD didn't say it was more likely, she said that is what happened. She can't know unless she took the shot.Also it is possible Gwen didn't use her ability. And it is perfectly possible she hid behind a target who she hoped would be ignored but was vig-killed.
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Now I'm assuming Alchemist's telling the truth.
I don't get why we townread these players:
PeregrineV (no content, jumping on the wagon)
Errantparabola (active as a pron diva elsewhere, doing nothing here)
My Other Head Is Scum (Just why?! Especially after that hammer)
TWIE (Needs to be sorted out, as soon as it's possible!)
These players' Twilight reactions seem to be fake as Mystique:
TSO ("rather grudgingly accept Anen's response"... No town or scumread on me? okay, in his case I'm simply paranoid.)
Extrapolated Eagle (2691, 2694, 2709... ohshyt, basically everything here!)
My Other Head Is Scum (that "yell at me tomorrow")
Randomidget (his "sorry", eh. I still think he's scum.)
Varsoon REALLY NEEDS to tell us everything he knows. I'm interested in his relationship with Elyse too.
PassionateStorm and Elyse are either townies or they're very good scummies and screwing up everything for us.
If I happen to be a kind of Vig, whom should I target?
If I told you I was Mystique and not Kitty Pryde, would you believe me that I hadn't admitted it before because I thought I'd be lynched because of being her?-
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In post 2743, Alchemist21 wrote:Lok I remember I ised to tease you about something from that game, but I can't remember what it was.
What do you make of TWIE posts after the hammer? Did his reaction seem more genuine to you than the others?
Don't you remember? I Vigged the player who you'd confirmed before. Wasn't it hilarious? ^_^
I don't like TWIE's Twilight and as I said, he must be sorted out. My only reason for not insta-scumreading him is he was posting in a similar way when he was town (in other games).-
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In post 2744, TheWayItEnds wrote:no i think hes faking.
If you've meant Alchemist, let him fake! I'll tell you Tomorrow, why.
If you've meant me, sort it out by yourself!
Hint: I've never lied as townie and I have an excellent reputation for telling the truth all the time in this particular game.-
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