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Post Post #2775 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:38 am

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What we learned from Alch's flip

1) alchemist was a last second attempt to save Klingon
2) scum have a jail keeper and both scum and likely deduced SG or myself was a hider to frame Alch


I am half tempted to vote Elyse just because Jeanne wanted it Day 1. Probably not yet though.

I need to do VCAS.
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Post Post #2776 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:38 am

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@EE, there is no such role.
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Post Post #2777 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:42 am

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That doesn't make sense to me. Why would scum do all of that, which is based on a bunch of assumptions, just to frame Alch who didn't look good anyway? Something isn't right here.

Also :igmeou: @considering voting me because Jeanne said so on day 1 when you've been townreading me all game.

The amount of lurkers I barely have a read on is unnerving.
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Post Post #2778 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:51 am

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Fuck it you guys should have voted eagle when I said it.

VOTE: Extrapolated Eagle
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Post Post #2779 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:52 am

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@Elyse, You got a better solution? SG died. She was hiding behind Alch. Alch was town.

Therefore, someone healed Alch. Sure as fuck wasn't town.
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Post Post #2780 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:54 am

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@EE, Readslist please.
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Post Post #2781 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 2779, Passionate Storm wrote:@Elyse, You got a better solution? SG died. She was hiding behind Alch. Alch was town.

Therefore, someone healed Alch. Sure as fuck wasn't town.


There is a even simpler explanation she didn't hide behind and changed her mind at the last minute.
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Post Post #2782 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 2775, Passionate Storm wrote:What we learned from Alch's flip

1) alchemist was a last second attempt to save Klingon
2) scum have a jail keeper and both scum and likely deduced SG or myself was a hider to frame Alch


I am half tempted to vote Elyse just because Jeanne wanted it Day 1. Probably not yet though.

I need to do VCAS.

1. Is possible. And something I considered day 2 but feel less confident right now.
2. This seems really truly incredibly unlikely. Like very unlikely. Like almost not possible unlikely. Like, there's gotta be another way unlikely. I need to look closer at the hinder role.

I'm tempted to lynch her and hope she flips scum just to prove I wasn't an idiot day one but that's incredibly unlikely.

I feel like you won't get very far with VCAs and the best move right now is to start taking a hard look at Head, Varsoon, Aneninen, TWIE, inte and the like.
In post 2776, Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, there is no such role.

In post 2777, Elyse wrote:That doesn't make sense to me. Why would scum do all of that, which is based on a bunch of assumptions, just to frame Alch who didn't look good anyway? Something isn't right here.

Also :igmeou: @considering voting me because Jeanne said so on day 1 when you've been townreading me all game.

The amount of lurkers I barely have a read on is unnerving.


Yeah. Basically everything she says here
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Post Post #2783 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:02 am

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In post 2780, Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, Readslist please.


EP and the rest of the list I mentioned need a hard look at. Also maybe someone should maybe read garmrs posts just once to check and make sure it's not scum. I can't read past the stupid, that I thought he might have left behind him right now.
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Post Post #2784 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:03 am

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In post 2783, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 2780, Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, Readslist please.


EP and the rest of the list I mentioned need a hard look at. Also maybe someone should maybe read garmrs posts just once to check and make sure it's not scum. I can't read past the stupid, that I thought he might have left behind him right now.


*behind him by now.
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Post Post #2785 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:05 am

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In post 2783, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 2780, Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, Readslist please.


EP and the rest of the list I mentioned need a hard look at. Also maybe someone should maybe read garmrs posts just once to check and make sure it's not scum. I can't read past the stupid, that I thought he might have left behind him right now.


Garmr hasn't been stupid. :shifty:
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Post Post #2786 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:12 am

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In post 2785, Passionate Storm wrote:[Garmr hasn't been stupid. :shifty:


Regardless of what he is, I can't figure out if he's tunneling because he's caught up in reading something that isn't there or if it's because he's scum and someone should figure it out.

Your turn. Reads please.
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Post Post #2787 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:30 am

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TSO town
Shiro town
Elyse probably town
Garmr town

EE will depend on who he pushes today

Random errant and inte are good votes same with PV
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Post Post #2788 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:42 am

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- Obviously DS didn't think PS was town. Perhaps a reevaluation of D2 needs to be made, but I personally believe that scum would do more in the name of indirect framing rather than the outright if-he's-town-i'll-eat-my-hat attitude that PS took. I don't think a town read is set in stone, but either way, I'm leaning towards town for PS, tentatively.
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- summarizes Garmr's early D1 play pretty well. I think that ultimately that early play comes from a town frame of mind. The fact that garmr pushes eagle over the much easier DS lynch D2 solidifies my townread on Garmr.
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- Drags feet on the Alch lynch, doesnt have any counterpush. Of course this is likely due to inactivity, but I'm not going to write it off as a town move. It could be scum that's behind and not wanting to incriminate himself with any particular strong stances. It could be town that legitimately has no strong stances. Either way, this slot is not someone we can have in a LYLO situation.
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- I strongly disagree with the MOHIS read. Note how TWIE mentiones the grapes kill with a town read that he never projected in thread. This to me reads like inconsistent play or trying to grab credit with a read that somehow materialized postmortem. The one thing that makes me less confident in this being scum is the tone of TWIE's posts.
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- I want Shiro's post Alchemist wagons. I'm taking note of the fact that Alchemist was almost certainly a Klingon counterwagon and Shiro opening up that possibility. But overall, consistent play.
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- Constantly questions own townreads. I don't like that because it comes without a push. That policy request I'm going to write off as non-indicative, but I think it's fake.
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- EE's consistent attempts to interact with a scumread of his (me) mean one of two things. 1) He isn't afraid to go toe to toe with someone he scumreads rather than just pushing the lynch. 2) His play is pretty consistent. If scum, then good scum. But I think town.
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- The clotilde gambit ultimately seems to me like a town-motivated move. Other posts seem town.
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- Was on the attempted Spifflop counterwagon. Was a klingon straggler. Play seems ultimately very reactive under pressure. What I do like is wagon analysis on alch, pointing out that alch is the klingon counterwagon. I wholeheartedly agree with that, it might be the keystone to my current gameview. Ultimately I believe scum.
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- I've lived with this person for many a year. Smells bad.
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- D1 play is good. I don't feel as confident with Elyse's D2 play but I can't really pinpoint anything that sets me off. Elyse is someone I'd consider voting but ultimately a null read, simply because I don't feel comfortable with saying she is town.
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- Isn't really a presence in this game. Has been on all the lynching wagons. Needs to do more.

VOTE: MOHIS
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Post Post #2789 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:49 am

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@EP. I like your reads for the most part. I would like to know: what were you thinking when I pushed Elyse lynch d1? Looking back it was a shit push on my part.
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Post Post #2790 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:53 am

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@PS
Why Shiro town? I was there for it but then when you look back she was pushing on town through the Kling lynch and compromised on Jaqen who was also town.

For the most part I like errant's reads but there are a lack of hard stances. I also think a MOHIS vote is pretty random coming from that list.
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Post Post #2791 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:56 am

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In post 2790, Elyse wrote:@PS
Why Shiro town? I was there for it but then when you look back she was pushing on town through the Kling lynch and compromised on Jaqen who was also town.

For the most part I like errant's reads but there are a lack of hard stances. I also think a MOHIS vote is pretty random coming from that list.

MOHIS is one of the few people who has actually made posts that I dislike rather than just being someone I would be fine lynching.

Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@EP. I like your reads for the most part. I would like to know: what were you thinking when I pushed Elyse lynch d1? Looking back it was a shit push on my part.

I remember pretty much dismissing it. I'll bet if someone looked at my ISO, there wouldn't be a lot regarding it.
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Post Post #2792 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:19 am

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I am pissed off at myself, I was really really fucking certain that alchemist would flip scum.

>.> <.<
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Post Post #2793 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:40 am

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So I'm being scumread for defending town. GG.
Are people seriously going to continue sheeping Titus after she was wrong about alch and dapper?
VOTE: shiro
Already scum and first post today was pointless prodging.
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Post Post #2794 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:49 am

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It was pointless but it was true frustration mind you.

You might not believe it and tbh I do not really care but I am really frustrated that I was wrong.

I don't know what to assume anymore. I mean since now I know that alchemist was a counterwagon on Kling. And that grapes and I are town, then one of anen or eagle are possibly scum but I am townreading both of them so I am unsure of it.
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Post Post #2795 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:52 am

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Can I just point out I've never expressed any scum leanings on alch. It didn't just start yesterday for towncred.
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Post Post #2796 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:54 am

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In post 2793, Randomnamechange wrote:So I'm being scumread for defending town. GG.
Are people seriously going to continue sheeping Titus after she was wrong about alch and dapper?
VOTE: shiro
Already scum and first post today was pointless prodging.


*scratches head* I am voting no one and questioning my reads. So who is sheeping me, on what,and why?
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Post Post #2797 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:56 am

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Never mind, maybe not town. Hmmm.

Random if you're town get your game together.
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Post Post #2798 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:00 pm

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UNVOTE:
I actually read that post as town. It was a reaction test to see if you would attack me.
VOTE: errantparabola
Didn't like him day one, and is a scumread on a player that isn't contributed to by annoyance and may go somewhere.
PEdit: passionate you have been the driving force behind the last two lynches and expressed a scum read on me. Most of the people posting today have expressed scumreads on me. I did think you voted me, must have been mistaken.
Yeah, EP, I should. Dapper and alch lynches kind of put me out as I felt that I would be next in line
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Post Post #2799 (ISO) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:01 pm

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It's weird how my scumreads are being NKed but my townreads are being lynched.

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