Street Fighter Mafia [GAME OVER]

Titus · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:20 pm

VOTE: beefboy

Titus · Post Post #46 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:55 pm

In post 30, Almost50 wrote:
In post 11, Titus wrote:VOTE: beefboy

In post 15, Suzune wrote:Sorry, my misspelling stuck beeboy. I love you, but my phone hates you~
Suzune is actually Titus

Nope. Suzune is RC who is me.

Titus · Post Post #47 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:55 pm

In post 37, beeboy wrote:
In post 33, Suzune wrote:
In post 29, beeboy wrote:
In post 27, Fire Assassin wrote:Who is your buddy then?
I think beeboy is being bad town this early.
SoulEaterQUEEN and I are buddies.
She has not even posted yet.
Do you think this would stop me?

In post 9, SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:VOTE: Heat
There's even a shiny vote button >.>

Umm what?

Titus · Post Post #49 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:57 pm

In post 42, SirCakez wrote:that would be a nightmarish scumteam
P-edit: laaaame

Booooooo!

Titus · Post Post #50 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:57 pm

In post 48, beeboy wrote:I saw that post, I am saying I would buddy her regardless of whether she posted or not.

Why?

Titus · Post Post #53 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:59 pm

@beefboy Huh?

Titus · Post Post #59 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:06 pm

In post 54, Prophylaxis wrote:
Fire Assassin wrote: Is this a serious question? Because I know we are still technically in RVS but I have a serious town read off Beeboy, so all votes on them should be removed serious or not.
Why should they? It's pretty obvious that the RVS votes on beeboy will not lead to a lynch.

Why are you and Fire concerned with all the votes on Beeboy?

Titus · Post Post #62 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:07 pm

In post 60, beeboy wrote:Titus is a bully for saying me and Varsoon would be bad partners. Titus is just striking me as odd in all honesty.

Fire Assassin is town for making strides to solve the game this early.

Huh? Are you and I even reading the same thread?

Titus · Post Post #65 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:08 pm

Oh I reread. I was pretending to be a ghost with boo.

That's it, back to picture posting. No one gets that confused...

Titus · Post Post #85 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:45 pm

Titus · Post Post #87 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:51 pm

In post 84, Jackrito wrote:
In post 80, SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:
In post 76, Suzune wrote:RVS is light and not serious usually. The fact you think he might be worried makes me worried.
Is this not a possibility if the culture of the RVS was different? I have played games where people don't like to move away from RVS to create higher tension situations to see how the player responds to as wagons build formation. Thats why I assumed people were collectively placing votes on him as a means to gauge his reaction, and people would meta read him for it.

Though I thank you for the insight on this part.

I feel the amount of phase time is what may be throwing you off a bit here.
RVS will likely last a lot longer here, and pressure builds slower, so the fact you reacted to this in such a way is not a good thing. Espically since it was still so early in the game I doubt anyone would feel panic at this point since they was no reasons been used either.

VOTE: Jackrito

Titus · Post Post #144 (isolation #11) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:57 am

Titus · Post Post #169 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:43 am

Titus · Post Post #204 (isolation #13) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:04 am

Titus · Post Post #236 (isolation #14) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:30 pm

Titus · Post Post #238 (isolation #15) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:36 pm

Titus · Post Post #242 (isolation #16) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:57 pm

Titus · Post Post #244 (isolation #17) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:04 pm

VOTE: FA

Titus · Post Post #278 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:29 am

Titus · Post Post #306 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:09 pm

In post 301, Suzune wrote:
In post 300, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 291, DrippingGoofball wrote:Suzune - Wishy washy, excuses, IIoA
How does this say that Suzune is scum?
Not understanding the scum reads on suzune, someone help me.
From my understanding, I was
apparently
opportunist to push SoulEater and to vote for her. Otherwise, I have few other posts.

Titus · Post Post #308 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:23 pm

In post 163, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 145, Nero Cain wrote:not really interested in it. Though if its a firebringer alt its scum based on meta.
I am not fire bringer.

In post 245, Fire Assassin wrote:Frozen Angel is not in this game

I liked that image though Titus, I didn't know where you stood with me and I didn't hold an opinion of you, now I am thinking you are being bad town.
I explained I had a town read of Ranger earlier, though your explanation of her sounded kind of like something Scum!Titus would say about teammate tbh.
I have trouble reading you. You aren't strong town to me right now, but I like the vote.

Titus · Post Post #313 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:40 pm

Titus · Post Post #316 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:51 pm

In post 301, Suzune wrote:
In post 300, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 291, DrippingGoofball wrote:Suzune - Wishy washy, excuses, IIoA
How does this say that Suzune is scum?
Not understanding the scum reads on suzune, someone help me.
From my understanding, I was
apparently
opportunist to push SoulEater and to vote for her. Otherwise, I have few other posts.

Titus · Post Post #319 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:15 pm

Titus · Post Post #324 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:53 pm

Titus · Post Post #623 (isolation #25) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:40 pm

Titus · Post Post #625 (isolation #26) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:20 pm

Spoiler: Catch up

Titus · Post Post #637 (isolation #27) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:31 pm

Titus · Post Post #645 (isolation #28) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:39 pm

Titus · Post Post #736 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:33 am

Titus · Post Post #740 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:43 am

Titus · Post Post #802 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:31 pm

VOTE: Brian Hollywood

Titus · Post Post #805 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:50 pm

Titus · Post Post #815 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:31 pm

Titus · Post Post #817 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:49 pm

Titus · Post Post #820 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:19 pm

Titus · Post Post #827 (isolation #36) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:28 pm

Titus · Post Post #912 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:46 pm

VOTE: Beeboy

Titus · Post Post #936 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:33 pm

UNVOTE: beeboy

Breaking meme for this.

TD should confirm or deny if the results are accurate.
If the are, anti should give details.

We do this right.

Titus · Post Post #941 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:37 pm

In post 938, SirCakez wrote:His posts today are so scummy tho >.<
And mafia tracker is a thing
Skull used one in her last game actually

We do our homework. Any vig if that exists did theirs, we owe beeboy the same courtesy given he was a townread for most and claimed a PR.

Titus · Post Post #944 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 943, Fire Assassin wrote:Titus you want to go into your scumread from me yesterday now that you decided to normal post?
I get feeling you weren't trying yesterday and now you are being more of normal titus.

Check my memes. I normal posted to save the lynch, not to let your lying ass come up with an out.

Titus · Post Post #947 (isolation #41) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:45 pm

In post 946, Fire Assassin wrote:Titus if you are going to be like this I am just going to leave this game.
Theres zero reason for you to be this rude.

It's rude to say you lied when you are Firebringer?

Titus · Post Post #971 (isolation #42) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:58 pm

In post 948, Antihero wrote:
In post 928, beeboy wrote:I am a town Tracker. I targeted TD who targeted themselves.
the "very very very likely" is now "certain"

lynch plz

Yeah, I want details.

Titus · Post Post #972 (isolation #43) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 970, beeboy wrote:
In post 968, beeboy wrote:Oh I asked Skull.

So if I got redirected my role pm would still read "TD targeted himself" even if I ended up targeting someone else. My bad so Anti is 99% scum not 100% scum.

pedit: Cakez you out of all people should know how poorly I react to situations like this as town. If I was scum I wouldn't be caught off guard and probably would be able to react more reasonably.
Oh wait I lied I am stupid and unable to read.

Nope this went back to having 0 reasonable explanations.
Result pms always show the name of your target. If you are redirected it would display the name of your new target.

So yeah Anti is a lyncher or scum with a backup plan again.

This is not a bastard game. Lyncher ain't happening. I also don't see Anti pushing this day 2 as scum. I also had you as a townread.

CatDog messed up his claim in Cyberpunk and I pounced like a rabid dog (was scum obs).

Cog dis bad here.

Last reads?

Titus · Post Post #974 (isolation #44) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 973, Almost50 wrote:
In post 968, beeboy wrote:Oh I asked Skull.

So if I got redirected my role pm would still read "TD targeted himself" even if I ended up targeting someone else. My bad so Anti is 99% scum not 100% scum.

pedit: Cakez you out of all people should know how poorly I react to situations like this as town. If I was scum I wouldn't be caught off guard and probably would be able to react more reasonably.
THAT makes more sense to me, actually. You targeted TD, but were redirected to someone else who also targeted TD. Wait! More likely we have a BUS DRIVER who switched YOU with TD, so you actually targeted yourself.

OK, never mind.. the point is you tracked yourself to TD

UNVOTE:

I think according to beeboy's reads, he said he could not be directed and TD visited himself.

Titus · Post Post #984 (isolation #45) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:20 pm

In post 982, Almost50 wrote:
In post 978, beeboy wrote:Stop trying to save Anti.
The mod told me that results pm (or at least mine) would always tell me my targets name even if they where not my initial target.
If Anti or I got bus driven we would be given the name of the new target.

OK, then. We lynch one of you, and when they flip town we lynch the other.. they also flip town and we congratulate the Mafia!! How's that?

@Ranger & Fire Assassin (as Firebringer): You both played with me in that Greatest Idea Mafia game modded by Kraeg, right? *Shrug*

That's cyberpunk and the result I wanted. I was ascetic so someone else looked bad.

Titus · Post Post #990 (isolation #46) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:30 pm

In post 988, Painbringer wrote:Beeboy is at l-4...

My bad.

Titus · Post Post #1049 (isolation #47) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:12 am

In post 1047, SirCakez wrote:Anti you clown why didn't you just ask him if he was in a hood?

VOTE: Prophylaxis
Back to this

Who normally buys a pregame hood? The only reason beeboy's not getting strung up for that comment is because Heat said he neighborized Beeboy pregame and I don't think a scum player links themselves like that. There is a chance Beeboy is scumand has access to two pts, but if Heat is ever found out to be lying, he's dead. Given the power here, I just don't see heat thinking he can get away with that as scum.

I'm at Anti and Heat are near certain town for this and Beeboy is probs town.

Titus · Post Post #1055 (isolation #48) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:27 am

@almost, why do you keep asking to be vigged? there may not even be a vig.

Titus · Post Post #1085 (isolation #49) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 1059, Dunnstral wrote:lol

Dwlee is going to have a field day with all these claims

No clue why a50 is claiming

In post 1068, Dunnstral wrote:yeah let's sheep dwlee

VOTE: Nos

VOTE: Dunn

Titus · Post Post #1182 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:51 am

In post 1178, SirCakez wrote:Because you're scummier then Nos

My mafia son is town. Trust me on this one. We can't agree on shit, and he obvtowned with his pushback on Dunn (which is a better vote hint hint). Fire can also eat rope.

Titus · Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:14 am

@Suzune, TWIE was the same way in a game where I hydraed with Sonic Boom and Bacon and Eggs was playing. I don't remember the name. He literally did next to nothing, and even refused to vote because I might do VCA. Dude was town. The fact he's wrong and pushing something at all at least lets me get a push to see on who else thinks that messed up behavior is acceptable. TLDR, being annoying isn't lynchworthy.

Titus · Post Post #1298 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:36 am

Prod dodge not feeling well. Across all games.

Titus · Post Post #1300 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:47 am

In post 1299, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1297, Dwlee99 wrote:What? Since when? Ive always called you cakey.
You have?
O.o

Blame college mafia. I would call you Cakey.

Titus · Post Post #1318 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:32 am

Technically, that doesn't confirm you as tracker. It's probable and I am rolling with that.

You could fakeclaim a buddy action though.

Titus · Post Post #1320 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:34 am

In post 1314, beeboy wrote:I don't want to track Anti because he is town. Just because he frustrated me doesn't change that.

You tracking Anti let's others know he is town.

Second, if Anti has an innocent, his results don't die with him.

Titus · Post Post #1321 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:35 am

In post 1319, beeboy wrote:Ok Titus I totally fake claimed tracker day 1 as scum and I just plan on saying my buddies actions every day.

That's why I said I am rolling with you being tracker. It's not confirmed but highly likely.

Titus · Post Post #1324 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:38 am

Well, I have a cold, so maybe I wasn clear.

Titus · Post Post #1325 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:40 am

In post 1323, beeboy wrote:
In post 1320, Titus wrote:
In post 1314, beeboy wrote:I don't want to track Anti because he is town. Just because he frustrated me doesn't change that.
You tracking Anti let's others know he is town.

Second, if Anti has an innocent, his results don't die with him.
We don't really know if Anti has an inno all we know is anti targeted someone if I target him.
If Dwlee taught us anything it is if claimed cops live for incredibly large amounts of time they are not town.

Well yeah if Anti has a guilty, he'd push it. Second, you really think there's two hidden hoods in the game?

You check Anti. Heat hoods Anti. Three person neighborhood that has the clears/guilties hidden from scum.

Titus · Post Post #1327 (isolation #59) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:43 am

In post 1326, TiphaineDeath wrote:Sooo, I hate this game, because one of my biggest townreads just straight up scumslipped. I think Almost has to wait now. VOTE: Cakes

????

Titus · Post Post #1385 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:08 pm

In post 1377, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1354, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1294, Heat wrote:Nero just out of curiosity but are you being serious with that scumteam you proposed
maybe, why are you so worried about it? Besides yourself...what do you not like about it?
also

What is the town motivation for withholding weather or not you and Beeboy have day talk?

Unless they are scum buddies (hood fiction MOONLOGIC) or someone is scumread in the hood, then why tell the group? If we suspect Beeboy and heat are scum, ok, but I don't see that case being made.

Titus · Post Post #1386 (isolation #61) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:12 pm

In post 1366, Dwlee99 wrote:Backstory for college mafia: Titus was convinced guiltylion was 100% town and massive was their second choice for the remaining town but those two ended up being the remaining scum.
Sorry if this game off jerk-y titus >.<
pedit The quote wall is read progression on beeboy que no me gusta (that I dont like)

Yeah, I made some mistakes in college mafia (suspected GL at one point but couldn't get over the fake reads Cakey appeared to have). I tried to avoid that here with Suzune, which is why I had to do the whole chicken v egg debate.

Still, I would like to think I know you more from our hydra and cyberpunk. Dunn's push on you reeks. His vote pattern is terrible. Y'all should sheep me.

Titus · Post Post #1401 (isolation #62) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:38 am

Really Nero, not pushing Dunn hard? Lurking? Every other post is either me pushing Dunn or engaging others on their reads.

I am sick as a dog and still out pushing everyone. Dunn is frankly scum.

All your wagons suck. You're acting as if I am obligated to vote town because only town are being wagoned. Nope.

Titus · Post Post #1404 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:57 am

Stretch more Nero.

You agree Dunn is scum. You won't vote Dunn. You argue that Dunn specifically must be SK, that scum did not shoot universally townread DGB but shot scumread Dunn to speculate on the existance of n SK, all so you don't have to put me as town. Cmon. That's scum shading.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:04 am

Nice deflection. Going with you for now because you sound like gunslingers. FA. Those are my biggest scumreads at the moment.

Titus · Post Post #1437 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:53 pm

And he's scum dumb enough to claim that in the open? I do not think almost us full dumb.

Titus · Post Post #1440 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:57 pm

@Nero, I dropped the picture posting to ensure neither Beeboy nor Anti got mislynched in haste. Don't misrep me like that.

Second, your setup spec is utter shit.

Just bus Dunn already.

Titus · Post Post #1442 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 1438, beeboy wrote:I thought he was a 3rd party .-.
I don't really want to lynch a 3rd party that can help town.

Why?

Second, if Almost is 3p,that case should be made. If it's not town, it dies.

Titus · Post Post #1443 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:59 pm

In post 1441, beeboy wrote:It isn't setup spec I thought he claimed it somewhere >_>

And you're not Nero. If A50 claimed third party, then we lynch him. I didn't see that though but I am not batting 100% percent.

Titus · Post Post #1447 (isolation #69) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:04 pm

*squints* I will take a look anyway just to be sure.

Titus · Post Post #1448 (isolation #70) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:08 pm

Yeah don't see any third party claims.

Titus · Post Post #1451 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 1057, Almost50 wrote:In short: I have a special tailored role (this is why I just LOVE Skull's games) and I'm trying to make the most of it for town instead of just being content with being almost as useful as a VT.

Definitely a weird claim, but where is the 3p feel?

Titus · Post Post #1453 (isolation #72) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:14 pm

What's your stance on A50 Dunn?

Titus · Post Post #1464 (isolation #73) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:39 pm

In post 1455, beeboy wrote:The claim felt too convoluted to be scum.
A50's claim does not feel like town play due to that hammer he did yesterday.
3p was the conlusion I made.

I know i am grasping onto straws to not vote A50 meh.

To me, it's pretty transparent that a50 confers some town benefit to being shot. Hammering like that is consistent with his play as it encourages a vig to shoot him.

Titus · Post Post #1471 (isolation #74) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:56 pm

In post 1469, Heat wrote:
In post 1467, Ranger wrote:I'm pretty sure that Almost50 being a third party is not reason to lynch him.
It absolutely is.

It is. If it ain't town. It dies.

Titus · Post Post #1612 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:24 pm

Almost, right idea wrong application. In a large, you look more towards 4-8 early on. Scum tend to be more sheepish. Still VCA doesn't work well before D4 in a large usually. If we're both still alive, I will explain VCA to you in further detail.

For now, help me with Dunn?

Titus · Post Post #1653 (isolation #76) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:50 am

In post 1650, Almost50 wrote:@Nero:

Maybe I will, but -for now- I want a Nos lynch more, bc he's the more active one of the scum duo (scum duo refers to the "two of them", NOT the whole scum team. In other words, I think they're both scum, so I'm going for the more active thus more dangerous of them.)

@Titus:

Deal (on the VC analysis thing). Dunn is town though.

Why is Dunn town? He jumps from sheeping to voting on a dime. His votes seem largely reactive and pushing on terrible wagons?

@Nero, Stop lying. Ty. I am pretty active here.

Titus · Post Post #1655 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:54 am

In post 1613, Dunnstral wrote:Titus if you're town I have no idea why you'd be tunneled on me like this. Some explanation?

Otherwise

VOTE: Titus

@Dwlee are you really questioning my vote on you? Look at your past 10 or so posts

Why me = fry me.

You have done zilch but react. No scumhunting here at all. *shrug*

The only reason you haven't been wagoned is because yourteam wagon fished A50

Titus · Post Post #1657 (isolation #78) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:01 am

I haven't solved the entire game but the A50 and Beeboy wagons were terribad. So there was likely scum pushing there.

You reek of scum flail spam. Out posting everyone in the game by double.

Titus · Post Post #1659 (isolation #79) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:11 am

I stopped posting in memes because I felt that wagon needed discussing in more words than I could in pictures, but you're claiming it's hindsight. Also, you claiming I am not reading the game is also a fiction. Knows to much = eliminate smart townie.

Like I said, scum flail spam.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have better things to do.

Titus · Post Post #1663 (isolation #80) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:11 am

In post 1662, TiphaineDeath wrote:And FA lurked his way out from under my radar too, TD no likey :/.

Blame Dunn and Nero. They are spamming and not scumhunting. Cakey is town though.

Titus · Post Post #1761 (isolation #81) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:53 pm

In post 1751, Suzune wrote:Is it me or do the same people post over and over again? I feel like there is not many people around to read.

Basically the heart of my read on Titus is easy. Titus's early game play style allowed him to sort of float along without really being read. It would be anti-town to lynch him for being annoying and that is basically what he was doing. But more then that the style allowed him to be opportunistic with many people either not engaging him or pushing in aside. Going into day two we see the memes have been pushed off in favour of posting ideas. However, he focuses more on Dunn and A50. Saying lot but not really pushing anything just pointing out the flaws of others like when they deflect or if they are just making noise. This interests me because it looks busy while, not really doing anything.

Really, I have been pushing Fire Dunn and Nero since the start, townread all the bullshit wagons that ere essentially rolefishing, and now I'm doing nothing.

No. Dunn and Nero are drowning out actual pushes from anyone else with lies and bullshit. They need to die.

Can you remember the last push by SirCakez? A50? Beeboy? I cannot.

Titus · Post Post #1762 (isolation #82) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:53 pm

In post 1760, SirCakez wrote:Yah that's kind of sketch actually

Why?

Titus · Post Post #1811 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:44 am

In post 1797, SirCakez wrote:because Nero is really obvtown and the vote on him is terrible

Disagree. Nero's been spamming and lying the whole game Cakey.

Titus · Post Post #1813 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:47 am

In post 1800, TiphaineDeath wrote:Also note how the wild Fire Assassin, after returning under pressure, agrees that it will accept as a lynch either of the leading wagons. CROIKEY!

@Zakk I will give you a string of lynches that will win us the game, but he's not the lynch for today. Follow me to victory!

I am at Dunn Nero Fire. Whichever has the most votes.

Titus · Post Post #1816 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:26 am

@SirCakez, First, he's lied about me stopping meme posting and the reasons for it. Second, he's lied about my activity levels.

As scum in games with me, he routinely tries to make it personal when I latch onto is buddies. He did it in NY 191 and to a lesser extent gunslingers. Dude is not town.

Titus · Post Post #1820 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:37 am

As town, like in Xmen, he calls it a policy lynch. He's not calling me a policy lynch but going on an all out offensive on my reads.

Titus · Post Post #1821 (isolation #87) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:40 am

In post 1819, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1816, Titus wrote:@SirCakez, First, he's lied about me stopping meme posting
So you are actually posting pictures and I don't see them?

and the reasons for it
Well I don't believe you. You were doing perfectly fine d1 so I don't feel like you had to STOP just to "stop the beeboy wagon"

Try not to break things up mid sentence to fuck with context.

Yeah, I did. No one was expressing dissent there and I had eeboy as a townread. Biggest complaint, no one reads my meme posting.

How do you defend a townread and get to the bottom of things while ignored? You don't.

You're taking the simple explanation and trying to morph it into something else.

Titus · Post Post #1824 (isolation #88) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:45 am

Bad? Just like my read on Dave was "bad" in NY 191, when I caught him in RVS and he was your scumbuddy.

VOTE: Nero Cain

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:00 am

In post 936, Titus wrote:UNVOTE: beeboy

Breaking meme for this.

TD should confirm or deny if the results are accurate.
If the are, anti should give details.

We do this right.

That should answer your question TWIE.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:05 am

In post 1838, TiphaineDeath wrote:Hey guys what if

FA
Nero
TWIE
Dunn
Proph
Suzune

That kind of makes sense to me right now.

Take out Suzune and TWIE and I would so roll with that.

Off to work.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:11 am

Ms marangal mafia

He's a dick when town. He deliberately no voted just so I wouldn't do vca. Here he's annoying people with how little he posts but not avoiding things.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:12 am

That last post was about TWIE.

I am off for realz now.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:13 am

In post 1846, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1832, Titus wrote:
In post 936, Titus wrote:UNVOTE: beeboy

Breaking meme for this.

TD should confirm or deny if the results are accurate.
If the are, anti should give details.

We do this right.
That should answer your question TWIE.
and you're still not doing it because?

Intense concentration required to post with cold andi cannot fry Nero/fa/dunn if no one reads my posts...

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:42 am

In post 1857, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1848, Titus wrote:
In post 1846, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1832, Titus wrote:
In post 936, Titus wrote:UNVOTE: beeboy

Breaking meme for this.

TD should confirm or deny if the results are accurate.
If the are, anti should give details.

We do this right.
That should answer your question TWIE.
and you're still not doing it because?
Intense concentration required to post with cold andi cannot fry Nero/fa/dunn if no one reads my posts...
so the reason you stopped overnight as opposed to yesterday when literally everyone was asking you to is mere coincidence?

If you call my two townreads going to war with each other over night results pure coincidence, then yes. After all, yesterday I kept going in the face of vig threats. If I was stopping to survive, I would have stopped then.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:58 am

In post 1865, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1862, Titus wrote:
In post 1857, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1848, Titus wrote:
In post 1846, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1832, Titus wrote:
In post 936, Titus wrote:UNVOTE: beeboy

Breaking meme for this.

TD should confirm or deny if the results are accurate.
If the are, anti should give details.

We do this right.
That should answer your question TWIE.
and you're still not doing it because?
Intense concentration required to post with cold andi cannot fry Nero/fa/dunn if no one reads my posts...
so the reason you stopped overnight as opposed to yesterday when literally everyone was asking you to is mere coincidence?
If you call my two townreads going to war with each other over night results pure coincidence, then yes. After all, yesterday I kept going in the face of vig threats. If I was stopping to survive, I would have stopped then.
would you have?

or would you have thought that would have looked incredibly survivalistic?

Huh?

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:59 am

In post 1866, beeboy wrote:I feel like once we lynch one scum all the associations will fall into place based on how everyone is playing.

ALSO WHY IS EVERYONE IGNORING RANGER

In post 1867, beeboy wrote:VOTE: Ranger

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:00 am

My reply got eaten. Ranger isn't terrible vote but Nero is ovscum.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:06 am

In post 1880, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1875, Titus wrote:
In post 1865, TheWayItEnds wrote: would you have?

or would you have thought that would have looked incredibly survivalistic?
Huh?
if you're scum and someone said stop doing what you're doing or i'll vig you.

would you stop?

Depends on context, how important I was to my team, our roles, etc.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:15 am

In post 1882, TheWayItEnds wrote:see i would likely have just said no.

That'd be dishonest. A lot of my play on what I would do as scum is situation ally dependent. I haven't thought about what I would do as scum. Just saying no would be a lie to appease you.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:47 am

@Nero,

I don't think you're town but even if that was accurate, you're arguing the popular = correct fallacy.

Also, don't think I haven't noticed your switching to me being annoying town when I highlight that's what town!Nero does.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:48 am

In post 1913, SirCakez wrote:my ranger townread is dead fyi, her lurking this much is a scumtell

Town read on Ranger being dead is fine. She's vlaed other games due to illness. I think she forgot this one. Whether that's AI or not, who knows?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:42 am

In post 1919, Suzune wrote:Who wants to talk about something. I feel like we have been talking about the same thing for days...

Then why aren't you voting Nero for scummy spamming to keep the game stagnant?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:43 am

In post 1923, Varsoon wrote:Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:06 am

In post 1929, Suzune wrote:Well Titus, because I think you are scum. I will admit that Nero went on a long rant about things. However, for the first time ever, I do not sense that Nero is scum this game. We are though trapped in a loop. We are either going to lynch you, or we are going to choose another target because the game as stagnated.

If Nero feels different tan his town games, there's probably a reason.

Why do you feel the game stagnated? To me it's obvious.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:38 am

Because there's already a wagon on scum Nero.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 1979, beeboy wrote:^^^^^^^

Town Ranger would have been pushing me incredibly hard right now. Not just say I am scum a couple times and make some jokes about it.

Why would town Ranger be pushing you at all? Doesn't town Ranger have good reads?

How does Ranger's vla in other threads play a part? Should we ignore it because Ranger didn't post it here?

I don't feel anyone is shady on the wagon but I feel skeevy wagoning someone who is Vla in all but name.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 1992, beeboy wrote:
In post 1991, Titus wrote:
In post 1979, beeboy wrote:^^^^^^^

Town Ranger would have been pushing me incredibly hard right now. Not just say I am scum a couple times and make some jokes about it.
Why would town Ranger be pushing you at all? Doesn't town Ranger have good reads?

How does Ranger's vla in other threads play a part? Should we ignore it because Ranger didn't post it here?

I don't feel anyone is shady on the wagon but I feel skeevy wagoning someone who is Vla in all but name.
Why does your first part promote me to push Ranger and the second part promote me to not push Ranger?
Ranger has appeared in thread more then once and hasn't made any notable pushes on me, I know she was VLA but I don't think she has been VLA the entire day phase.

I am conflicted and want help resolving it. Yes I am talking both ways. I am not a fan of them lurking, but them being vla how much is it scummy? Yet the wagon is all town reads. I want a dialogue here.

^^ this is for you too Cakey.

Nero objecting does make me feel good here though.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:58 pm

In post 1993, Nero Cain wrote:The ranger wagon feels off. It popped up over nothing, is fast and has met little resistance...just like the Nos wagon.

So very likely that scum was sitting on those two wagons.Someone look it up or I will when I get back.

Both Titus wagons and PV wagons stalled and town Nero was a counter to. PV wagon is best wagon followed by Titus, Cakes and suzune and then TD.

lates

The ranger wagon isn't off. I just feel morally opposed to it. The foundation is sound. The wagon is townie.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:59 pm

In post 2001, Dunnstral wrote:I absolutely am not willing to lynch Ranger

Also this wagon is scummy

Dunn and Fire and Nero opposed.

Someone address my ethical concerns please.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:01 pm

In post 2007, SirCakez wrote:I don't think the V/LA is that relevant Titus, it's not like she just started lurking when she declared V/LA.

Ok. I know I have been sick lately and Nero came at me right as that happened.. Ranger has a wagon here. I am going to go here, but I will be hating myself if Ranger's town.

VOTE: Ranger

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:12 pm

In post 2010, beeboy wrote:At worst Ranger will learn a lesson about opposing me.

Ummm is this a vendetta wagon? Or do you mean opposing alignments?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:50 pm

In post 2013, beeboy wrote:
In post 2012, Titus wrote:
In post 2010, beeboy wrote:At worst Ranger will learn a lesson about opposing me.
Ummm is this a vendetta wagon? Or do you mean opposing alignments?
I was making a joke that was that I started trying to get her lynched because she wants me lynched.

I am terrible with jokes. If you make another joke like that, can you mark it?

I am ok with the speed. Town is coming together. Is it on my preferred wagon? No. Do I have reservations? Only ethical, not gameplay ones. Is the wagon townie? Yup. Do my scumreads oppose it? Yup.

Speed alone is NAI.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 2016, beeboy wrote:
In post 2015, Titus wrote:Speed alone is NAI.
I know but I always feel uneasy regardless. We also attempted to manipulate wagon speed in Cyber Punk if I remember.

I don't want Ranger lynched before she comes back tho

Sorta. Wagon speed isn't the type of thing that's easy to do. It's more arguing or suggesting wagon speed and if that fails, argue too fast/slow. Wagon speed is one of those arguments that scare people away but it's NAI unless there's a clear counter in response.

Ex: Scum A gets to l minus 3. Townie then gets wagoned.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:57 pm

In post 2029, Luna Fox wrote:So nothing strikes me as particularly town from Ranger in isolation, anyone got a condensed reasoning or something? im not sure ill be able to read all 80+ pages before deadline and im pretty sure my vote will be needed somewhere, but i need to verify that there's is some legitimacy to whatever reason she's being voted.

Ranger is a dominant force to be reckoned with and has clear reads as town. She's been lurking here. She's had an illness the last 3 or 4 days (documented site wide) but still missed most of Day 2 when she was fine. She's had zero strong pushes. Plus, my scumreads (Nero/Dunn/fA) are against it.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:04 pm

In post 2036, Luna Fox wrote:Yeah one of the things i noticed in Ranger's iso was that it was like 70% reads lists and 30% interaction (made up numbers).
I didnt look at timestamps.
Is there any clear indication that "lurking" is something that she would not do as town?
The "lack of pushing" is something i'd buy.

My hesitation is that i just came here and i have no idea who's actually abusing a situation to generate a ML or genuinely reading someone.

That is my similar concern with the timing but it is an ethical one. I think everyone who plays with town ranger can attest to my statement of her meta (if not scum themselves).

Your slot is also lurking until now. It's fair to say you're making more contribution now. Yet Ranger's lurking is abnormal.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:11 pm

In post 2050, beeboy wrote:This has nothing to do with lurking I prefer if people who sheep me don't just add shit reasoning.
Like town players push scum reads not let other lynches go through.

Why don't you add why you feel Ranger is the correct play then?

@FA- Yelling falsehoods does not make them true.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:12 pm

In post 2052, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 76, Ranger wrote:
Firebringer wrote:Titus is in this game?
NOw ITS A PARTY <3
(Psst...you're 'not in the game'. >_> <_<)

By the way, since this has been a problem before in games, going to announce it IN ADVANCE this time, before role PMs are sent, so that, this time, people understand that, yes, I say this without alignment bias:
This is a large game.
I'm going to be lurking.
Period. End of discussion.

It wouldn't be an issue if Ranger did things when she was here.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:14 pm

In post 2056, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 2053, beeboy wrote:Lurking and literally being irrelevant are different things.
Ranger isn't relevant.

pedit: weren't you totally down to lynch Ranger before?
Where did I say this?
In post 2054, Titus wrote:
In post 2050, beeboy wrote:This has nothing to do with lurking I prefer if people who sheep me don't just add shit reasoning.
Like town players push scum reads not let other lynches go through.
Why don't you add why you feel Ranger is the correct play then?

@FA- Yelling falsehoods does not make them true.
Read my quote, and tell me I am a liar again.

You mean where you denied your main or you deny Ranger is good at town?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:06 pm

@beeboy, I am here if you have questions. Sorry had a phone call. Work thing.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:10 pm

In post 2131, Luna Fox wrote:Also that post by beeboy looked very town.
Sounds frustrated he can't get any decent reads he's confident in.

Beeboy's been obvious town since Day 1.
Same with Anti.

The thread went to lurker/spam ville after Anti mistakenly thought he had a guilty on Beeboy and it drew 3 or 4 claims.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:31 pm

In post 2142, Nero Cain wrote:#1 I believe she's not lurking. She's sick. #2 how is her "lurking" any scummier then any of the other "lurkers"?

But I most have a very hard time seeing her wagon get to 8 in like an hour, when both of the PV and Titus wagons sat at 4 for DAYS, and not be full of scum and the scum decided to bus her with NO resistance.

She has not been sick for the entirety of Day 2. During the guilties she was posting in other games.

PV has been actually consistently absent site wide.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:33 pm

In post 2147, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2144, Nosferatu wrote:He's even more irrelevant. At least people have talked to Ranger. PV has literally not been spoken to, and he doesn't initiate conversation either. As far as relevancy is concerned, he isn't even playing the game. The only reason we know PV is here, is because people are scum reading him, and his name is in the player list and vote counts. If you argue that I'm asking for a policy lynch, I'm not; he reacted terribly to the Brian wagon, and clearly didn't want his name on any future VCA. Scum.
Oh i thought you meant that you believed in him being town, i agree with you about PereV
Nos can be town.

Nos is town.

The dodg of VCA is a stretch. PV lurks in every single fucking game. I would vote him, but it would be a policy vote.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 2150, Nero Cain wrote:Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:19 pm<---time of DW's vote

Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:40 pm<---time of TDs vote

So it wasn't an hour, still, that avalanche of votes in those 3 hours doesn't seem like its town. And that's not even including Titus' vote 20 mins later.

Speed of wagon is NAI.

If you think Ranger's town, argue they are town.

Throwing shade on a wagon is how scum defend buddies.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:39 pm

In post 2152, zakk wrote:just iso'd ranger to see what all the fuss was about

i have seen ranger play, and play well, and be super town

this is NOT that. this is the opposite of that

this is ranger relying on her vague-as-fuck read lists as an excuse to herpderp it up and skate by

also, additionally, i think ranger's reads suck

all this is disappointing

i'm totally down to vote ranger at this point

i'd love to hear ranger's take on this opinion before i vote

get well soon. tomorrow i expect something.

Hey, Zakk we're agreeing again.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:40 pm

In post 2154, Luna Fox wrote:For something like that there must have been something short of a cop (guilty?) or a scum slip, that is definetly not something i'd consider fast movement...

Scum might be aiming for a deadline scramble, how did the lynch go on D1?

Brian Hollywood was extreme Derp town who the whole town thought was scum. Then Almost50 hammered without a claim to try and get a vig to shoot him.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:41 pm

In post 2151, Titus wrote:
In post 2150, Nero Cain wrote:Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:19 pm<---time of DW's vote

Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:40 pm<---time of TDs vote

So it wasn't an hour, still, that avalanche of votes in those 3 hours doesn't seem like its town. And that's not even including Titus' vote 20 mins later.
Speed of wagon is NAI.

If you think Ranger's town, argue they are town.

Throwing shade on a wagon is how scum defend buddies.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:50 pm

In post 2158, Titus wrote:
In post 2151, Titus wrote:
In post 2150, Nero Cain wrote:Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:19 pm<---time of DW's vote

Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:40 pm<---time of TDs vote

So it wasn't an hour, still, that avalanche of votes in those 3 hours doesn't seem like its town. And that's not even including Titus' vote 20 mins later.
Speed of wagon is NAI.

If you think Ranger's town, argue they are town.

Throwing shade on a wagon is how scum defend buddies.

So what on 23 posts today? Maybe he's overgamed?hates this one because of you? He lurks unless he realm cares?

PV traditionally lurks early game.

You're still avoiding talking about Ranger and diverting.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:56 pm

In post 2161, Nero Cain wrote:I've already discussed Ranger but F for effort. I think you are either his scumbuddy or you are so into tunnel mode you can't see reality. Either way I'll be o with your lynch.

No. You haven't. F for effort is not an alignment conclusion. Instead, you deflect again.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:13 pm

@Zakk, pretty sure we disagree on Somethings. You just haven't been here enough. Pretty sure I disagree with your current vote. Don't think that will hit scum.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:18 pm

In post 2175, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2174, Titus wrote:@Zakk, pretty sure we disagree on Somethings. You just haven't been here enough. Pretty sure I disagree with your current vote. Don't think that will hit scum.
...
I think you disagreeing with his current vote would be a given regardless of your alignment.

Yes. I was laughing a bit with Zakk on that. It is a given we disagree but his scumread comes from us being too in sync.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:31 pm

In post 2180, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2157, Titus wrote:
In post 2154, Luna Fox wrote:For something like that there must have been something short of a cop (guilty?) or a scum slip, that is definetly not something i'd consider fast movement...

Scum might be aiming for a deadline scramble, how did the lynch go on D1?
Brian Hollywood was extreme Derp town who the whole town thought was scum. Then Almost50 hammered without a claim to try and get a vig to shoot him.
I didn't. You pushed a mislynch hard.

In post 2156, Nero Cain wrote:We are lynching PV and then I'm getting all of Titus, TD Varsoon and Cakes lynched.
Sounds good

Me pushing the Brian lynch? No. I agreed with the conclusion but I was pushing FA to be lynched. I'm not absolving myself of responsibility. I still wanted Brian dead, but you don't get to lie about my pushes.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:37 pm

In post 2190, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 889, Skullduggery wrote:(11) Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon, Almost50
Looking at this im getting even MORE confused about why DGB was nightkilled, this pretty much reduces possible scum as i highly doubt this was a 100% town wagon.

I don't think a single possible town sole scumread DGB. I think it was more universal townread than read accuracy.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:43 pm

In post 2195, beeboy wrote:Also if you read that day phase it could easily be purely town >_>

oh wait A50 is also green

I'd agree with the sentiment scum would avoid the BH wagon.

All town is a bit much though.

Ranger and maybe one other scum.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:45 pm

In post 2205, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2197, Luna Fox wrote:(Cakez, Heat, Ranger, Titus, Varsoon, A50)
From these most are on Ranger's wagon.
Ranger's town guys, there is no way this happens if Ranger's scum.

Heat's neighborizer
Almost50 is the closest thing we have to a cop.
Cakes has been obvtown since the start.

Ranger is scum with Nero who white knighted BH.

Look through BH's posts. There's nothing good about them.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:48 pm

Anti is a PT cop, which Heat completely nerfs.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:51 pm

Yup. After Anti professed a guilty on Beeboy, heat claimed neighborizer on Beeboy pregame. There's allegedly a third unknown person as well. Basically if I understand quickly, the more Heat uses their role, the weaker Anti is.

The best way to resolve that is Anti in the hood.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:52 pm

In post 2212, beeboy wrote:I would argue that a PT cop is closer to a cop then a hider that can't target scum.

Ok disagree due to Heat's role but you are usually right.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:55 pm

In post 2215, Luna Fox wrote:Is Heat's role compulsive?
If it's not i'd argue that it's more anti town to use it further.

Disagree if Anti is in the hood. Then Anti does not have to worry about false positives.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:58 pm

Oh and while we're discussing claims, Beeboy is tracker who tracked TD who visited TD. (Not typo, TD confirms self visit).

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:59 pm

In post 2217, Luna Fox wrote:I'd argue that Hider's one of the strongest roles town can ever have. I usually don't like setup spec, but what the hell, PT cop + Hider and you guys arent questioning all that?
Unless anti's PT cop doesnt trigger on scum PT for balance (wouldn't be the first time i see something like that).

Hider is nerfed because Almost doesn't die if he targets scum. Basically he needs actions on him to fail to get any result whatsoever.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:06 pm

In post 2222, Luna Fox wrote:Oh ok, so he's a nerfed hider, that makes more sense.

Right. All the roles seem to work like a puzzle needing town unity to work together but not say much otherwise scum will pick them off.

I expect little to no bussing here.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:06 pm

In post 2230, beeboy wrote:
In post 2229, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2226, Dwlee99 wrote:I think Luna is town but my judgment might be clouded :I
What is with this wishy washyness :I
Dwlee came in asking me for read advice I think his play is consistent for wishy washy town.

Not impossible but I strongly disagree here.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:09 pm

In post 2235, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2227, beeboy wrote:
In post 2226, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2225, beeboy wrote:
In post 2223, Dwlee99 wrote:What do I do
I feel like waiting for Anti and sheeping him tbh.

Are you feeling Luna town or Luna scum?
I think Luna is town but my judgment might be clouded :I
Nah Luna's town you got this.
Let's wait for Anti unless you got reads or something you want to share.
I wanna lynch titus still. Felt like she was buddying me and her logic normally makes more sense than this.

They don't call me the moon walker for nothing. I stand by my logic but I confuse often.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:10 pm

In post 2236, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2232, Titus wrote:Right. All the roles seem to work like a puzzle needing town unity to work together but not say much otherwise scum will pick them off.
Do you have any sort of mod meta that might hint to the roles working like this in other games?
In post 2232, Titus wrote:I expect little to no bussing here.
I'm operating under this assumption as well when im analyzing the lynch and the wagons.

Borderlands is the most recent Skullduggery modded game. I don't think in terms of mod meta, but I think it qualifies.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:11 pm

In post 2238, Luna Fox wrote:Surprised titus hasnt commented on my poorly attempt at VCA and going "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG" or something like that

That was VCA? Lol

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:17 pm

So your problem with me is that I make too little sense but I confuse people often? That makes sense. [/sarcasm]

What are your thoughts on Ranger?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:18 pm

In post 2244, beeboy wrote:Dulee is town in every game he plays Luna.

Cyberpunk the kid was nominated for a scum scummy. You were in that.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:32 pm

Now, that's not VCA. :-p

And those assumptions are garbage.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:32 pm

Well the latter one is.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:37 pm

Nah.

There's no hard and fast rule on scum bussing. It's just tendencies. I tried these hard and fast rules. They worked for awhile. Scum adapted. People like TWIE got annoyed too.

In regards to Luna's assumptions, InuYasha mafia breaks most of them. Pretty sure scum in all the Team Mafia games did as well.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:38 pm

In post 2264, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2253, Luna Fox wrote:Which leads me to the highly likelihood of!
At least 1 scum in Titus/Varsoon.
On a side note
This is true only if Ranger's town and all the claims are town.

Well Ranger is not town so

Take another look.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:40 pm

Yeah, that's the problem. A VCA with a conclusion about an unflipped wagon is bad. It creates confbias.

Look at it again.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:49 pm

In post 2271, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2267, Titus wrote:Well Ranger is not town so
No, my conclusion of ranger town comes from multiple points.

Disolution of wagons then springing of a seemingly low resistance wagon on Ranger.
Repeat names that were already on a mislynch wagon forming part of this.

Yes, dissolution of wagons pushed by scum...to wagon scum.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:51 pm

In post 2277, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2276, Titus wrote:Yes, dissolution of wagons pushed by scum...to wagon scum.
So tell me, what's the scum motivation of abandon ship on a supposed mislynch to bus a partner?

They didn't.

The town got off the wagons pushed by scum.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:53 pm

I am thinking scum in

Ranger Nero FA Varsoon Dwlee Dunn

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:53 pm

Ooh and long shot Zakk but I doubt it

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:03 pm

Yeah, a) not calling the whole team but establishing a pool.

B) Dwlee is in the bus sweet spot.

Suzune and Heat and Nos are the townies that got off the wagons on town to vote scum.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:09 pm

Yes. I am awfully certain of that given Nero's behaviour towards me, PV, and Ranger.

Nero is protecting his buddy and praying that you'll want to lynch me or PV instead. Nero scum plus the claims make this really broken.

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:16 pm

Nero is treating me as scum Nero treats me. As town Nero, he goes for policy. As scum Nero, he just yells I am scum and makes it personal. Nero's been spamming the thread and cutting off communication. Nero's lied about my reasons for doing things and avoided most topics of conversation. He's not town.

Second, Nero is wrong...but not town.

Given Nero scum, Ranger scum is evident. That precludes PV scum. Doubly so because Nero is offering PV to save Ranger.

Anyway, I am off to bed. Good night.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:16 am

In post 2306, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2018, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2014, beeboy wrote:This wagon has too much speed
DING DING DING!

vote Titus or PV.

or we can flash wagon Suz,TD or Cakez
Wagon speed arguments are stupid
In post 2043, Nero Cain wrote:like the whole "oh Ranger is lurker scum" but that somehow doesn't apply to PV. I mean what the hell.
Ranger =/= PV
In post 2267, Titus wrote:
In post 2264, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2253, Luna Fox wrote:Which leads me to the highly likelihood of!
At least 1 scum in Titus/Varsoon.
On a side note
This is true only if Ranger's town and all the claims are town.
Well Ranger is not town so

Take another look.
When did this big shift take place?

When Nero has defended Ranger to hell and back without calling them town.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:30 am

In post 2317, Luna Fox wrote:Nero's town if that shot is legit.

Nope. That shot is likely fake and if not, it's still a scumclaim. Nero is using drama to get what he wants. It's not townie at all.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:30 am

He would have shot me AGES ago or gotten a claim if town.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:33 am

In post 2321, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 2319, Titus wrote:
In post 2317, Luna Fox wrote:Nero's town if that shot is legit.
Nope. That shot is likely fake and if not, it's still a scumclaim. Nero is using drama to get what he wants. It's not townie at all.
Ummmmmm....faking vig is more of a town thing than scum thing.
Since when is it not more townie than scum?

Context. Nero's using the fake dayvig to protect a Ranger.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:35 am

In post 2323, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 2157, Titus wrote:
In post 2154, Luna Fox wrote:For something like that there must have been something short of a cop (guilty?) or a scum slip, that is definetly not something i'd consider fast movement...

Scum might be aiming for a deadline scramble, how did the lynch go on D1?
Brian Hollywood was extreme Derp town who the whole town thought was scum. Then Almost50 hammered without a claim to try and get a vig to shoot him.
Are either of these things even true?

They both are. Can you find me a single sole townreading BH? And Almost was ASKING to be vigged.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:36 am

In post 2329, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 2327, Titus wrote:Context. Nero's using the fake dayvig to protect a Ranger.
Titus since when has Ranger been your so strong scumread?
You didn't even know anything ranger did like 10 pages ago, then you had "ethical" issues pushing her. Now she is like conf scum in your eyes, the transitions make no sense.

Nero hard defending Ranger without calling her town. Stop buyworking and asking me shit I have said like five times.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:36 am

In post 2331, Nero Cain wrote:My shot is real Titus.

Like in Xmen.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:38 am

In post 2335, Luna Fox wrote:You know, one of the things i always believe in, is that if a mislynch happens, is the fault of the people that misread the slot that should've been town, not the lynchee.

It's both.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:39 am

In post 2336, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 2333, Titus wrote:Nero hard defending Ranger without calling her town. Stop buyworking and asking me shit I have said like five times.
Titus lets be friends.
Can you explain any of your other scumreads for me?

Let's focus one at a time. Pick one and we'll discuss it.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:00 am

In post 2345, TiphaineDeath wrote:PFagaaaahahahah, and Nero's response is to vote me? God I was right, you are scum this game, you fabulous fuck. And you no one see's it but me either. Ahahaha, god I love this game xD.

Hey, what am I chopped liver?

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:24 am

In post 2352, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2351, TheWayItEnds wrote:youre right.

reading VCA is literally the least useful thing i could do.
I really want to think this is a scum post... i really want to!
But you're not the first person that has discredited VCA just because it's VCA, it's something I deal with everytime i use it, and it's more frustrating than anything.

Yes, TWIE is town because he's a dick about it. He went an entire game with very minimal voting, sometimes whole day phases, because he hated my vca that bad.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:32 am

In post 2354, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2316, Nero Cain wrote:itt: scum abandons the Ranger mislynch wagon

this might not be the right thing to do but but
Dayvig:PV

shot doesn't end the day

vote:td
gross vote

that being said, if the shot is legit and PV flips scum I might be willing to sheep you on Titus today

If PV is scum, Nero got rid of a useless buddy to mislynch me. Town Nero shoots me.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:41 am

In post 2363, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 2358, Titus wrote:
In post 2354, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2316, Nero Cain wrote:itt: scum abandons the Ranger mislynch wagon

this might not be the right thing to do but but
Dayvig:PV

shot doesn't end the day

vote:td
gross vote

that being said, if the shot is legit and PV flips scum I might be willing to sheep you on Titus today
If PV is scum, Nero got rid of a useless buddy to mislynch me. Town Nero shoots me.
this literally cant be a serious post.

Like Nero is mod confirmed scum levels of guilty to me. Nothing will change that. You can disagree but Nero is guilty until proven innocent. He's just done too many bad things. Bussing in any sort will not clear him.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:43 am

In post 2361, SirCakez wrote:He said he is going to shoot you tho Titus

He faked a vig on PV to get people discussing PV as scum and away from ranger.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:44 am

In post 2365, TheWayItEnds wrote:you think.

that nero.

if scum.

shoots a buddy.

so that he can mislynch you?

instead of just shooting you?

Towncred.

He shoots me, he fucking dies because I have been tunnelling on his ass.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:45 am

In post 2370, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2366, Titus wrote:He faked a vig
That hasnt been proven fake yet, has it.

No but it's Nero.

@Twie, Cakey and TD, and Zakk and pretty much anyone who has doubt on Nero.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:46 am

In post 2372, Luna Fox wrote:And if you think he's "directing discussion away from Ranger" couldnt i accuse you of also "directing discussion towards Nero"?
If you dont want discussion on Ranger to die, then why dont you continue discussing Ranger instead of focusing on the shot?

Because I am not Queen of the thread.

I cannot force people to vote scum.

I can try though.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:48 am

In post 1228, Nero Cain wrote:better work on your fakeclaim tonight 'cause I am prob going to vig you when my bullets are ready.

Nero's been doing this to protect Ranger who still is doing nothing but kissassery.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:51 am

In post 2378, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 2366, Titus wrote:
In post 2361, SirCakez wrote:He said he is going to shoot you tho Titus
He faked a vig on PV to get people discussing PV as scum and away from ranger.
is he faking the vig to save ranger or shooting PV to mislynch you?

now im confused.

The vig is fake. I am 99% sure.

I only entertained the possibility of it being real because Cakez is going full Derp.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:53 am

In post 2379, Luna Fox wrote:I think Titus is town is being very confbiased.

I am correct AND confbiased.

You disagree, fine.

Do you townread Ranger based on their own play?

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:55 am

In post 2383, Luna Fox wrote:If Nero does X he's scum because Y
If Nero doesnt do X he's scum because Z
If Nero does A, he's scum because B.

Like literally, that's all i've seen you in your mentions of Nero.

Look. Nero is scum because he's treating me like scum Nero treats me.
He's scum because he's defending Ranger without saying Ranger is town.
Nero is scum because he didn't shoot me or ask for a claim before his likely fake shot.
Nero is scum for his personal push on me and a lurker push on PV but refusal to lynch lurker Ranger when PV always lurks early game.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:01 am

In post 2387, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2386, Titus wrote:Do you townread Ranger based on their own play?
At first i didnt, but i liked the post that appeared while i was sleeping.

Why?

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:04 am

In post 2399, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2394, Nero Cain wrote:@luna-I am full of myself, read my massive ISO and talk about me

In post 138, Nero Cain wrote:
kill:Brian Hollywood
So much what?

Luna, Nero has threatened vigging people all game. day vigs night vigs

It's boy who cried wolf, but he's the wolf.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:13 am

In post 2403, Luna Fox wrote:Also my post was he's already proven to not posses a dayvig, so im kinda suspicious of anyone that has been with him since then and not calling out on that, but I will check that out later.

Not 100% accurate but anyone reading Nero should be aware of that. Maybe the mod has trigger words or a pm needed to activate but yeah like 90% fake and for drama.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:23 am

No. I have townread Cakey since the start.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:39 am

In post 2412, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2168, Skullduggery wrote:Countdown: 3 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes
I didn't really want to wait on him to claim and its not like anyone believed me so then we'd just wind up in a "well you might not really be a dayvig and you are rolefishing!" so I felt like the only alternative was to shoot him and give us the three days to decide who we want to lynch 'cause a no lynch on d2 is stupid.

Or you could lynch obvscum Ranger

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:55 am

In post 2415, Heat wrote:
In post 2414, Titus wrote:
In post 2412, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2168, Skullduggery wrote:Countdown: 3 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes
I didn't really want to wait on him to claim and its not like anyone believed me so then we'd just wind up in a "well you might not really be a dayvig and you are rolefishing!" so I felt like the only alternative was to shoot him and give us the three days to decide who we want to lynch 'cause a no lynch on d2 is stupid.
Or you could lynch obvscum Ranger
Michelleobama.jpg

She's smiling and flexing those big ass arms.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:43 am

Holy fuck.

I need lots of vodka.

Nero is going to be insufferable scum now.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:44 am

In post 2464, beeboy wrote:
In post 2459, Skullduggery wrote:Mafia Neighborhood Spy.
This confirms heat as town.

Yup. That I agree with.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:45 am

Yeah, that dayvig balance wise was meant to take out Almost I bet but Nero's never going to be flipped. Nor will Ranger.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:49 am

Ignoring this thread for 24 hours. Like damn vigging your buddy is ballsy Nero.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:41 pm

Ok, I think I am a little calmer now where I won't launch into a tirade.

Here's the deal. I still think Nero is scum. I know the odds of that are near abysmal that anyone will ever believe me and me repeating such will just get in the way of scumhunting. Ranger is still scum too. I have to actually hold this opinion because if no one questions Nero and I am right, he will run the table.

So I will avoid obsessing over Nero and still scumhunt the entire game, and y'all put up with me having a scumread y'all find is unlikely.

I do think Varsoon is likely scum. That I can do. I cannot vote Cajey.

VOTE: Varsoon

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:53 pm

In post 2574, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2573, Nero Cain wrote:anti is basicly sitting here and doing nothing.
If this is true.
He's scum, like 98% chance.

He opened pretty strong butnot so much now. I don't know whether that's ongoing or not.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:22 pm

In post 2559, Titus wrote:Ok, I think I am a little calmer now where I won't launch into a tirade.

Here's the deal. I still think Nero is scum. I know the odds of that are near abysmal that anyone will ever believe me and me repeating such will just get in the way of scumhunting. Ranger is still scum too. I have to actually hold this opinion because if no one questions Nero and I am right, he will run the table.

So I will avoid obsessing over Nero and still scumhunt the entire game, and y'all put up with me having a scumread y'all find is unlikely.

I do think Varsoon is likely scum. That I can do. I cannot vote Cajey.

VOTE: Varsoon

@Nos.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:39 pm

In post 2599, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2597, Varsoon wrote:I'm playing the game, just not 100 posts a fucking minute like you kids.
You've barely given any opinions and haven't been helpful with scumhunting at all.

This dies.

Sorry Beeboy but your reads blow. I was meta diving Anti and found http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65750 cakes was in this and when he got mislynched the amount of ATE/frustration wasn't near what we've seen here. Varsoon is like an sk or something and Cakes is group scum. I REFUSE to believe that both Titus and Cakes are town that tried to shoot down my speed of the wagon argument for why the ranger wagon was shit.

Ranger is still scum. Cakez is still town.

If you're not scum (big if), this is you refusing the truth when it smacks you in the face.

Varsoon is still a scummy bastard but that doesn't make beeboy's reads shit.

Stop trying to be king of the god damn world. That's scummy shit. Work with your townreads.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:43 pm

In post 2601, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2600, Titus wrote:this is you refusing the truth when it smacks you in the face.
Says the person that tried like hell to save PV

See. This is more about self promotion than finding the truth.

I tried to get you to comment on Ranger and get a scumlynch through.

I am not wanting to fight you on reads though damn it. I am trying, if you're town, to tell you how toxic you are being.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:47 pm

In post 2603, Nero Cain wrote:yes
I'm
the one being toxic

Yes. You've insulted me as a player no less than 10-15 times, insulted beeboy a few times, and generally basically acted as if people who disagree are somehow inferior. You had not done that in most games but you are here.

If you're not willing to listen and have a dialogue about that, fine. I'll just spoiler and mark when you're acting that way.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:48 pm

In post 2604, Varsoon wrote:I've offered plenty, I'm sorry that I'm not going to lie to you and conjure imaginary info.
If you want, I could easily spend an hour lying and conjuring some reads, but they wouldn't be any more true than what I've shared so far.

Still scum not wanting to make associative tells.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:54 pm

In post 2608, Nero Cain wrote:I like your switch to the moral high ground role. After how terribly wrong you've been. So I don't agree with Beeboys cake read, big fucking deal.

Then don't call ALL his reads shit. It disencourages town cohesion.
not even touching the moral high ground insult.

Titus · Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:24 am

In post 2645, Luna Fox wrote:With what i know, i'm not sure if anti's capable of such a stunt as scum.
Anti's barely even able to anything other than prod-dodging as scum.

This. Anti and I had me bus him the moment I subbed in. Basically, my teammates sucked. They asked me to bus them. Wound up winning in lylo as voteless scum.

Anti stopping doing things is troubling, but I don't think he's scum.