Now you're standing there tongue tied
You'd better learn your lesson well
Hide what you have to hide
And tell what you have to tell
You'll see your problems multiplied
If you continually decide
To faithfully pursue
The policy of truth
Yeah, except the one were we both were scum together and you had to fake it!In post 216, Firebringer wrote:Almost I think I have default townread you in every game I played with you, which I think worked out?
Because:In post 218, Not Chara wrote:if you're town, your ally claiming their role/flavour to you can only be helpful, Almost50. mind telling me why you feel so strongly about this?
I'm game if that's still open (haven't read beyond the post I'm responding to). I don't think I've seen scum!you before thoughIn post 220, Yume wrote:Someone ally with me....?
Woot??? NO TRIVIA??In post 273, mastin2 wrote:So.
I know that Varsoon specifically told us, "don't claim".
But, goddammit, Varsoon.
If you're gonna tell us that claiming is going to get us punished...
...Don't give us roles where NOT claiming is even MORE punishable.
So, uh.
In simplest terms:
The good news is, I actually am town this game.
The bad news is, I don't appear to be town.
I shouldn't claim more than that, but...
...Dammit, I want to. I WANT TO CLAIM. Because it's in my nature to do so, yet I can't.
I'll say this much though:
Deja vu.
As in,seriousdeja vu.
De.ja. vu.
I can claim no more.
She's an individual Vampire! Even after she flips you'd still be wondering until you see an Isolationist's win con!In post 276, McMenno wrote:are you undead risen slave or millerIn post 273, mastin2 wrote:So.
I know that Varsoon specifically told us, "don't claim".
But, goddammit, Varsoon.
If you're gonna tell us that claiming is going to get us punished...
...Don't give us roles where NOT claiming is even MORE punishable.
So, uh.
In simplest terms:
The good news is, I actually am town this game.
The bad news is, I don't appear to be town.
I shouldn't claim more than that, but...
...Dammit, I want to. I WANT TO CLAIM. Because it's in my nature to do so, yet I can't.
I'll say this much though:
Deja vu.
As in,seriousdeja vu.
De.ja. vu.
I can claim no more.
I agree. So, I'm a PGO .. Oh, dang!! I've already used THAT more recently. OK. As you where!In post 280, Reasonably Rational wrote:The ONLY thing that people should claim at this point is negative utility. Anything else is just fucking stupid; plain and simple.
You obviously don't know how much skill is within this player listIn post 329, Not Chara wrote:would your ally claiming to you really make you trust them that much?
In post 345, mastin2 wrote:Oh.
I just read a clause in my role PM.
Yeah, I'm not allowing anyone to ally with me, ever.
There's something in there that I missed before, which now that I've read, has rendered any chance of me ever having interest in allying gone.
The power I have is a massive boost to scum but useless to town, so I am NOT giving it away, ever.
Sure, why not! It's a BIG gamble on my part, I know (bc .. you know .. in the majority of games we were of opposite alignments), but a very good player IMHO and if you're town here then we rock!!In post 355, SirCakez wrote:I'm still open for allying, I wanted to ally with Mastin but that's out the window now.
Almost bby want to ally?
Not only have you not provided an ANSWER to my question, but you're trying to bounce it back on me???!!!In post 642, Not Chara wrote:why is grapes not very towny to you, and why is Rational not scum to you?
Yes, it was, and you are an integral part of "everyone". You still didn't answer.In post 652, Not Chara wrote:and it was for everyone
Maybe, or maybe not. If there are.. YOU STILL HAVE NOT POINTED THEM OUT!In post 652, Not Chara wrote:have you not considered that there's plenty of alignment indicative content to be found?
Any particular reason(ing)?In post 696, Yume wrote:mastin2 is confirmed town. That is all.
Maybe the user submitted their investigation while they were skimming/catching up, thus weren't aware of the fact it got refuted a few posts later. I'd say "once a day" is right though, as with most investigative roles.In post 771, kraskaesque wrote:in particular using an ability on that was wasteful as it was concluded it was a joke.
~lycan
It'd be ironic if you -of all- turned out to be Steven, given that you're also a Miller.In post 850, mastin2 wrote:It's not an ally.In post 845, TheWayItEnds wrote:i mean you could have not just blind allied just cause it seemed like the cool thing to do.
It's permanent.
Game-long power.
Now if you don't mind, I'd like to keep at least some facets of my role private until it's flipped so don't prod me further on this.
I feel special! Then again, I do tend to be one of those unforgettable characters!In post 868, Not Chara wrote:my memory can be very bad. this excludes Almost50, who i am aware of.
Well, I hope you know what you're doing claiming both role and flavour!!!In post 973, Killthestory wrote:yes i am garnet the innocent child
You have some weird reads yourself. I mean, just bc you're likely town doesn't mean I'm going to agree with those reads.In post 974, SnarkySnowman wrote:Especially after calling creature "perfect null" and then putting him not in the nullpile. (see 934)
I disagree with like... 90% of that. grapes / farside are like nullscum at least. Creature is a lot more town, xkyfu is pretty town, Obi is pretty town.
VOTE: SirCakez
Since when does the IC get confirmed on the request of ANOTHER player? Besides, if the IC of the previous game could only be confirmed on D5, what makes you think they could be confirmed on D1 in this game?In post 975, SnarkySnowman wrote:In post 973, Killthestory wrote:yes i am garnet the innocent child@Varsoon - confirm please?
??? Are.. are you claiming .. the LIE DETECTOR??!!!!!! GAWD, I hope NOT! I mean, what's with people crumbing and/or outright claiming in a game we've been explicitly warned against doing so??
I took this to be a "don't claim or you could be punished for it"In post 989, Seraphim wrote:Almost50: we have not been warned against claiming, but we have been warned against relying on flavor to try and solve the game.
Me too, tbh. Once too lists are posted with X is town and Y is scum; the following few are building on it as if it was mod-confirmed.In post 1062, farside22 wrote:I sense too many people following others reads.
Maybe, but that's not how it seems to be. Try asking the 4th of 5th person to place X in the town pile and/or Y in the scum pile and see if you have a convincing argument.In post 1064, grapes wrote:Or...
Or.
Maybe when more than one person sees something. Might mean there's something there.
To be frank, neither do I.In post 1072, grapes wrote:I also don't know what your scumreads are. Work on that.
I wouldn't call it hinting either. This was more of a blatant outright claim to me:In post 1088, Not Chara wrote:Almost50: i didn't notice Creature hinting at being the lie detector anywhere.
I guess I can give it a shot. SC has not been talking much to me so far, and it feels like my first episode alliance with him didn't even help me get a more confident read about himIn post 1101, grapes wrote:If any of my townreads are down. Would like a new ally.
Reminder:
I strongly disagree. This is NAI at best. OMGUSing your entire wagon sucks. IF NC is town and IF there's scum on that wagon it'd be just one person, and then you'd have to figure out which one and what makes them scum.In post 1415, farside22 wrote:This is town as fuckIn post 1398, Not Chara wrote:i give up.
that doesn't mean i'm going anywhere. i'll be here to talk all night. if SirCakez is scum then i'll buy OWK as town. out of my 'buddies', SirCakez is the one most likely to be scum. i don't even know if anyone is townreading him anymore. Rational could also be scum but honestly i'd rather see them investigated, or something. i'd say something snide about OWK at this point but i promised myself i wouldn't interact with them anymore.
i almost want to be lynched just to watch mastin, OWK, and grapes experience some form of online whiplash. for varying reasons, because mastin is town.
for the record, i don't think i'll be lynched today. those who have expressed support have already voted. there might be a few lazy stragglers/lurking scum who might join, but i don't see them reaching a majority. i'll see if i can't continue to put my foot in my mouth for the rest of the day, though.
town i am 95% sure on is Firebringer, farside, Yume, mastin, and Seraphim.
i am 100% certain there is a scum on my wagon. it's probably grapes. it could be grapes and OWK. it is... possibly Almost50, but if both grapes and OWK are scum i would not bet money on it.
VOTE: SirCakez
pedit: oh, fantastic. Cakez changed his read on me after one post while i was typing this. now this will look reactionary. because this game wasn't difficult enough.
Skybird, we aren't having a fight. grapes is scum. i outed that because they're scum and also because grapes was looking to ally with other town players.
Deal with it.
What's wrong with a double-vote at the hands of a (1) confirmed, (2) capable player? Heck, Skybird has a double-vote already, and nobody's complaining.In post 1416, Not Chara wrote:play like this is really only functioning as giving mastin a double-vote.
Oh, I did, and you're talking which is GOOD for a startIn post 1421, SirCakez wrote:Check back thereIn post 1418, Almost50 wrote:I guess I can give it a shot. SC has not been talking much to me so far, and it feels like my first episode alliance with him didn't even help me get a more confident read about himIn post 1101, grapes wrote:If any of my townreads are down. Would like a new ally.
I had thought of him to be town based on the very fact he requested to ally with me. I'm usually suspicious of him bc whenever we play in the same game we're of different alignments. This has been the case in most of our previous games together and it lead me to always be suspicious of him, so wanting to be in a PT with me I thought meant he was town for sure.
But the lack of communication in that PT is starting to worry me. I have yet to check beyond this post I'm responding to to see if he had been posting in this game at all.
Fire DID comply! Fire DID vote McMenno, despite stating he thinks they're town. I didn't get your swift switch back to Cakez though. Like, WHO do you want to lynch FOR REAL??
I'm not sure we want to do this today. I mean, I could see it both ways, but I'm currently leaning on Cakez being town.In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:Hmm...
VOTE: SirCakez.
Yume, Almost50, rally to me.
grapes, this is a scumread of yours too, so you should come over here for a while.
I actually think we should be doing this instead.
That was a QUICK change of heart, mind you!In post 1485, Not Chara wrote:fuck. i feel as though things are finally moving in a way i can actually affect, and i don't even think Cakez is scum anymore
You have my sympathy.In post 1486, Reasonably Rational wrote: I'm sorry everyone, I have the worst toothache imaginable and will not be doing shit with this game until it stops.
-Cerb
Shut up! You're allying with ME tomorrow, you fire-spewing monster!In post 1493, Firebringer wrote:Titus, I want to hood with you two tomorrow, so we can yell at each other and figure shit out, hopefully.
Erm.. ok.. I'll step down to #2 then. I only wanted to TALK to you in private, but i don't think I have anything worthy to offer back.In post 1498, Firebringer wrote:I won't really detail the bonuses right now, but lets say basically everyone will want to ally me and having town allies is very good.
I want a double-sized French Fries bag with lots of ketchup on it too!
Wait! WHAT?!In post 1509, Firebringer wrote:Its time to kick this game into overdrive.
@Varsoon Activate the Event:
Things are starting to get REALLY interesting!In post 1513, Killthestory wrote:VARSOON, MY TRIGGER EVENT HAS COME INTO PLAY! PLEASE ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD!
FOR THIS PLANET IS UNTO ME, AND IF CAN'T DEFEND IT, WOE IS TO DONE TO ME!
You telling me I put 2 (and a half) scum in my event?? Am I THAT bad??In post 1552, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I am at NC Creature Cakez klingon CoolDog X, add DGB/Fire if wrong?
Obviously bc grapes is a ROLEBLOCKER, and anyone with a night action doesn't want to be RB'd.In post 1554, Klingoncelt wrote:Okay... Almost50, is it a stupid idea? Why?
Now you're sending my curiosity up to a maxima!In post 1564, McMenno wrote:hey klinconcelt, rando, yume and twie... vote me you cowards
more coherent thoughts when I'm not phoneposting
possibly
Yume, I may not know you that well, but I think I'm dealing with someone from the Frozen type??In post 1590, Yume wrote:That said, if you, farside, hope to get me out of the game by riling me up and getting me force replaced, that's not gonna work cos I have my neighbour/mason buddy to calm me down.
I don't mind that either.In post 1633, grapes wrote:And a50 could ally farside.
This was NOT my read list at the time. I had to trigger the event in the prequel phase with a stress level of +1 or higher.In post 1697, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I'd be more concerned as to why you didn't just put all your top townreads in.
In short, meta reasons. I find him more likely to be town with this play.In post 1698, Foxbird wrote:Why are you townreading Xk?
I get that a lot, especially on D1 (which is part of why I rarely ever provide read lists, but I'm trying to change that for the second game running).In post 1699, Creature wrote:lol Almost50, that list sucks
I would rather not talk about these two for now until they've decided to grace us with more of their wisdom.In post 1700, Creature wrote:How Foxbird and Skybird are town?