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Math the next post you say where PV is scum I'll just policy lynch you I don't even care anymore.
The joke is old and you need to stop running off of OMGUS for that read because scum decided to use their factional kill on PV for NO REASON!
No seriously, stop.| here.GTKAS-
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Like. Creature got the rb wonder, but he says this?In post 6963, Creature wrote:Btw, scum getting Alhambra equals scum
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oh wait nvm I misread that. my bad. Creature specificly says scum getting Alhambra = Scum.In post 10549, Alisae wrote:
Like. Creature got the rb wonder, but he says this?In post 6963, Creature wrote:Btw, scum getting Alhambra equals scum
I am really confused here.| here.GTKAS-
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I don't really care about the first part. I really don't care how you read me.In post 10555, Nero Cain wrote:
Why are you being snarky here? You mad that I'm not like "OMG ALISAE IS SOOOO TOWN, ANYONE THAT DOESN'T SEE THAT MUST BE STUPID." Grow the fuck up kid.In post 10550, Alisae wrote:BaeReed and nancy are not the same alignment please try again Nero.
I'd take a Nancy scum over Senpai if pressed but remind me why Nancy and Senpai aren't the same alignment?
As for the second, this is not what a TvT or an SvS looks like:In post 9173, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:In post 9098, nancy wrote:And yeah, Aslan's reads are a total joke.
nancy is scum.In post 9099, nancy wrote:
If Aslan is scum half of these probably are too.In post 9055, Alisae wrote:This is without taking into consideration of associations.
Brian, LUV, Nero, BaeReed, Creature
These are my locktowns.
In no world ever where nancy is town does she entertain the idea of Aslan being scum here.
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This is NOT the arguement I am making here. This is:In post 10560, Nero Cain wrote:scum vote each other all the time so I'm not real sold on the idea of "they can't be scum b/c one of them voted the other!"
But whatever, I'ma go case Yuri slot now.In post 10349, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:If you don't want to trust the meta towntell that even nancy admits exists even if she's trying to somehow still scumread Ali through it??? (and nancy I will remind you that this game started and that tell was dropped before that conversation so you can't even argue that I told Alisae, besides which if you actually honestly could ever think that I was scum with Ali you're tripping because it's not how I would interact with a buddy at all).
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Reposting this case.In post 1387, Fro99er wrote:
1) When titus gets on Yuri about defending Vecna, Yuri goes "but frog did it too" (314) without even realizing I also defended drixx (256, 260, 264, 271) in the Vecna/Drixx thing. I took both sides at different time trying to sort shit out, but Yuri basically says why didn't you call out frog for defending Vecna, as a justification to why they did it. That's stuff scum does.In post 1366, Spiffeh wrote:Frog why is Yuri scum?
2) I'm only going to use the self-meta thing as a small point, but his reaction in 442 to when I went "SPIFFEH " in 437 seemed really worried
3) In 931 Yuri wants to placate Titus, and it appears he doesn't want to ruffle titus' feathers. It's super appeasing type stuff like scum not wanting to stand out. Yuri says in 940 that yes he is trying to placate Titus because Titus is probtown pushing them. However, later on in 1248 Yuri sorts Uzi as town and Yuri says he doesn't care about Uzi's push on him. It's a contradiction, so Yuri needs to explain why Titus push did matter but Uzi push didn't.
5) Yuri says they have issues with A+N in 952 and when pressed on what the issue is by A+N in 953 it turns out that it's the same prior issue from 941 and 943. Reading those two posts, we see it's because Yuri doesn't like A+N is pressing Sondam about whether Sondam thought titus slipped or contradicted herself. That's perfectly legitimate reason to pressure Sondam, to find out if they meant contradict or slip (or both, as it turns out). Because contradict and slip can have different meanings. It's a bullshit issue to have with A+N. (to read more about it, read my 1275 which explains it better than I just did here)
4) My 1245 shows exactly ZERO scumhunting of Yuri's. All of a sudden Yuri drops a vote 3 posts later in 1248 on A+N, with no explanation. Finally the explanation comes in 1268 and it's a weak and shallow read that looks like it's just there to appear like scumhunting from Yuri.
5) Yuri passes the buck on trying to read people on the Maxous wagon 1231 which I call out in 1264, and passes the buck again saying I should do the legwork in 1265. Why pass the buck back on to the person questioning you, which he did twice to two different people in those two posts.
So there you go spiff.| here.GTKAS-
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These are what these VCs tell me.Spoiler: Important VCs. From the time Yuri was wagoned to the end of the Day 1 lynch.
Basicly these VCs tell me that Yuri was a lynch that scum really did not want, so they were forced to bus.
But then once ABR did things, scum found an excuse to hop off of Yuri and either go on ABR or Vecna, which ever one they picked.
You can tell this just by how slowly but surely Yuri went from 9-10 votes to 1.| here.GTKAS-
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VC 1.32: Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, LeonshadeIn post 10566, Nero Cain wrote:In post 10559, Nero Cain wrote:And if Yuri was scum who are Yuri's scumbuddies that tipped the scales in favor of a not Yuri wagon?
VC 1.42
Vecna (5): Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai, Fro99er, Albert B. Rampage, Sondam
Albert B. Rampage (5): The DEO, Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, Creature
beeboy (5): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Spiffeh, Elbirn
VC 1.48
beeboy (8): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Albert B. Rampage, Fro99er, Creature, Akane and Nebby
Albert B. Rampage (6): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, The DEO, Leonshade, beeboy, Caesar Wills It
VC 1.49
beeboy (11): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Albert B. Rampage, Fro99er, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri
Albert B. Rampage (5): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, The DEO, beeboy, Caesar Wills It
Looking at these VCs probably Leon (His vote for sure looked like a bus) but I'll get back to you more on this tomorrow I need my sleep.| here.GTKAS-
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Add LUV to this. I don't really care to ask you to take me out. I mean like, I guess I can see Gork scum now? I'ma go through ISOs sometime tomorrow.In post 10568, Nero Cain wrote:like if you believe that then its pointing to scum being in you, Leon and Nancy. I'd much rather do a Nancy lynch.| here.GTKAS-
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9833 - Shading. Let's keep this in mind for later. Also this tadbit is directed towards scum!Leon: Yeah you're vote on Sondam + saying "no one wanted to listen to my defense on Sondam (Or JaeReed's)" is bullshit considering you had them lynchable in 9669Spoiler: I can't FUCKING Sleep so I'm starting with KidAmn's ISO
9484 - Discredits Day 1 completely tho this is probably human error.
9848 - Why is he asking again? Why is he self-conscious of this stuff as well? If anything he should just be doing it.
9901 - The tone here seems really defensive and I doubt it's coming from frustrated town. Like this feels fake to me if anything.
10242 - The shade towards Caesar here is really uncalled for, especially considering they're a nullread. Their read on me is really defensive becuase they didn't like a reaction test I did? I don't see what calls for it tbh. Also their words on Creature look like he's posturing around that slot.| here.GTKAS-
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If I was it would be a scumclaim lmao.In post 10587, nancy wrote:
ARE YOU OUTING A FUCKING RESULTIn post 10550, Alisae wrote:BaeReed and nancy are not the same alignment please try again Nero.| here.GTKAS-
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Fixed your typo.In post 10576, KidAmn wrote:So, since I'm regrettably still not fully read up (but getting there) - I understand the basics of the case against my predecessor to be that the D1 wagon flashed away from him, and then he lay low D2 and 3. (feel free to correct me and go into more detail on amything I've missed or omitted) I can't defend his posting or lack thereof any more than I could defend any other players, but I find the that Yuri's wagon dissolving must be as a result of hypothetical scumbuddies powering through an alternative to save him.Isn't there a certain amount of WIFOM of sorts involved in this assumption that this is a scum-for-scum interaction and not, say, a reasonably intelligent scum team laying the foundations for later days? (and for what it's worth, knowing myself to be town, I don't hold this against youAlisaeNero - I think this was quite cleverly set up by scum and Yuri's inattention plus those breadcrumbs make sense to follow up as town.)
Still bullshit.
Here's why.
THE BOLDED IS SO SELF-CONSCIOUS OMG WHAT THE FUCK HOW DOES NO ONE SEE THIS SHIT THIS IS OBVSCUM KILLKILLKILL
POSTURING 101
THE TONE HERE IS SURVIVALIST AS FUCK
AND THE FACT HE'S TRYING TO EXCUSE IT AS WIFOM IS SCUMMY PLEASE KILLKILLKILL| here.GTKAS-
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This is a daily reminder that this is scum trying to find a way to wiggle out of their TR on me.In post 10595, Leonshade wrote:Would like to see this supposed rolefishing by Ali, def don't interpret that post you quoted as that.
I've got time tp phonepost for an hour if you want to bring sonething to my attentipn.| here.GTKAS-
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Let's see.In post 10596, Creature wrote:I told ya I would lynch my rb target regardless.
Someone with the Great Wall is probably out there.
There are also 2 FUCKING DOCTORS.| here.GTKAS-
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ALSO TO ADD TO IT THAT VIOLATES THE RULES OF OCCAM'S RAZORIn post 10597, Alisae wrote:
Fixed your typo.In post 10576, KidAmn wrote:So, since I'm regrettably still not fully read up (but getting there) - I understand the basics of the case against my predecessor to be that the D1 wagon flashed away from him, and then he lay low D2 and 3. (feel free to correct me and go into more detail on amything I've missed or omitted) I can't defend his posting or lack thereof any more than I could defend any other players, but I find the that Yuri's wagon dissolving must be as a result of hypothetical scumbuddies powering through an alternative to save him.Isn't there a certain amount of WIFOM of sorts involved in this assumption that this is a scum-for-scum interaction and not, say, a reasonably intelligent scum team laying the foundations for later days? (and for what it's worth, knowing myself to be town, I don't hold this against youAlisaeNero - I think this was quite cleverly set up by scum and Yuri's inattention plus those breadcrumbs make sense to follow up as town.)
Still bullshit.
Here's why.
THE BOLDED IS SO SELF-CONSCIOUS OMG WHAT THE FUCK HOW DOES NO ONE SEE THIS SHIT THIS IS OBVSCUM KILLKILLKILL
POSTURING 101
THE TONE HERE IS SURVIVALIST AS FUCK
AND THE FACT HE'S TRYING TO EXCUSE IT AS WIFOM IS SCUMMY PLEASE KILLKILLKILL
PLZ HELP I THINK I'M GOING INSANE.| here.GTKAS-
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I activate my trap card: Mirror Force!In post 10603, CloudKicker wrote:i tribute 2 monsters and i summon the blue eyes white dragon in attack position. Attack the dark magician -500 ARARRGGGARGG| here.GTKAS-
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Fixed your typo again and it's not really OMGUS. OMGUS is when you vote someone for basicly voting you but I think you know this.In post 10608, KidAmn wrote:
I disagree that understanding why someone might hold a position while suggesting why it is incorrect is 'obvscum' but clearly you come from a far more... Aggressive school of playing Mafia. At the end of the day, someone has to hang and ots in towns best interests to work together to make sure the scum are the ones swinging. It is interesting that this all comes about from my earlier post expressing some doubt about you though. After all, apart from my daring to invite opinions on adding more walls to an already spammy game, and 'shading' you, you don't have any more to go on other than that D1 lynch and Yuri lurking until he was replaced...In post 10597, Alisae wrote:
Fixed your typo.In post 10576, KidAmn wrote:So, since I'm regrettably still not fully read up (but getting there) - I understand the basics of the case against my predecessor to be that the D1 wagon flashed away from him, and then he lay low D2 and 3. (feel free to correct me and go into more detail on amything I've missed or omitted) I can't defend his posting or lack thereof any more than I could defend any other players, but I find the that Yuri's wagon dissolving must be as a result of hypothetical scumbuddies powering through an alternative to save him.Isn't there a certain amount of WIFOM of sorts involved in this assumption that this is a scum-for-scum interaction and not, say, a reasonably intelligent scum team laying the foundations for later days? (and for what it's worth, knowing myself to be town, I don't hold this against youAlisaeNero - I think this was quite cleverly set up by scum and Yuri's inattention plus those breadcrumbs make sense to follow up as town.)
Still bullshit.
Here's why.
THE BOLDED IS SO SELF-CONSCIOUS OMG WHAT THE FUCK HOW DOES NO ONE SEE THIS SHIT THIS IS OBVSCUM KILLKILLKILL
POSTURING 101
THE TONE HERE IS SURVIVALIST AS FUCK
AND THE FACT HE'S TRYING TO EXCUSE IT AS WIFOM IS SCUMMY PLEASE KILLKILLKILLChainsawOMGUS much?
And I was SRing the Yurislot by the end of D3, so you can't really call it OMGUS.
And I still have a case to build on your predecessor, but you have to remember I am going off of VCs, your ISO, Yuri's ISO, and Frog's case.
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I think you are less the center of attention than you may believe.In post 10598, Alisae wrote:
This is a daily reminder that this is scum trying to find a way to wiggle out of their TR on me.In post 10595, Leonshade wrote:Would like to see this supposed rolefishing by Ali, def don't interpret that post you quoted as that.
I've got time tp phonepost for an hour if you want to bring sonething to my attentipn.
I think I need to calm down.In post 10614, Leonshade wrote:
Your reading comprehension needs work, I'm expressing skepticism if nancy's points on you.In post 10598, Alisae wrote:
This is a daily reminder that this is scum trying to find a way to wiggle out of their TR on me.In post 10595, Leonshade wrote:Would like to see this supposed rolefishing by Ali, def don't interpret that post you quoted as that.
I've got time tp phonepost for an hour if you want to bring sonething to my attentipn.| here.GTKAS-
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Why do you care again?In post 10605, CloudKicker wrote:Ali bae why you no read me townie this game ? have you got paranoid of my play| here.GTKAS-
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oh yeah I was supposed to do a Yuri case lmao will get to it later.
Right now I'm trying to put the puzzle together. tbh I can probably answer this better a lot later, but I realized Maxous was town and there was one interaction with you and Maxous that I really did not think came off as a TvT or SvS.In post 10645, Vecna wrote:Your earlier posts really didnt indicate a scumread on me at all. What changed?| here.GTKAS-
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His tone and his posts and his response really seemed towny.In post 10645, Vecna wrote:Like, wth - you were just voting for Gorkington but now he's suddenly a townread? How come youre not trying to do anything against me if youre scumreading me? Why were you appealing to me earlier for tunneling you? These actions youre having here literally make zero sense to me. I know how you've engaged me in Code geass while you were actually scumreading me. Wheres the venom against me, the attacks, the call-outs of suspicion for [reasons]?
Not really trying to do much because Yuri's flip is the flip of interest.
And for some reason I got tunneled on you like a mad scientist because NC was like "Hmmmmm, Vecna could be bussing off the wagon." "hmmmm, Vecna doesn't seem like how he was playing in deathnote" and then I stopped when NC was like "Hmmmmmm, Vecna seems to be aware of issues he just doesn't really want to talk about them and that's fine."
This game is a little similar to Code:Geass for me besides alignment, I wonder if you can get what I'm getting at?| here.GTKAS-
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Amazing guide on VCA written by CephrirIn post 10775, Gorkington wrote:1) vca is garbage.| here.GTKAS-
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staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawpIn post 10781, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Gork: I'm scum reading Gork because I town read Creature and I don't see him being the time to gambit like this as scum in this position. I'm also in very much agreement with his theory on this slot being the one to have attempt to kill Night 3.| here.GTKAS-
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In post 10778, nancy wrote:I should probably make that a little clearer to everybody so that we can stop wagoning Gork for shit reasons.
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Huh?In post 10802, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I understand the paranoia around Vecna but I strongly believe he is town. He is not as loud as scum in my experience.He would not fight so hard in the Resolution phase like did if he was town.There is no reason for him to white knight me as scum. PyP lasted for about 2 months and I'm pretty sure he knows that the reputation I have accumulated as scum or as a player in general is not indicative of my actual play. There is several other players here he benefits more from buddying or white knighting. All the other shit he's been scum read for his is solely due to his personality and not alignment indicative.| here.GTKAS-
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I did vote the guy. I unvoted him because I want him to bus.In post 10843, CloudKicker wrote:
What is the purpose of this post alibae, if you want to get luv you might want to make a case + vote the guyIn post 10839, Alisae wrote:Can someone tell me why LUV is untouchable again?| here.GTKAS