Elemental Trinity: Endgame

[MariaR]

I haven't full-claimed because my predecessor already fullclaimed... but fine.

I am a tracker-follower.
N1: Lil Uzi Vert, who visited No Bullying Allowed. LUV guiltied NBA with a track, but I was removed from thread by another slot's active for the day so I had to have the Dark PT members push for me.
N2, nothing because of the aforementioned thread removal.
N3: don't remember, it was blocked by TD anyway.
N4: McMenno, who did nothing.

The sorcerers returned the next day, emboldened by their success to find great news!
The missing persons PeregrineV, Cassielle, and Infinity 324 had returned to the academy and were ready to go!
Less good news, however, was that Lil Uzi Vert was missing. They searched for her and eventually found her mangled body in a potions classroom.
Her body had been partially dissolved by the poison that she was dropped in, and the diamond on her engagement ring was black.

Lil Uzi Vert has died! She was Caele Delynger, aligned with the

Academy

.

Spoiler: Role PM

I would have always loved him...

Nothing shapes a human being like betrayal. Caele and her boyfriend Evane had been together since they were both barely able to walk. Both born into gifted magic families, they developed their magic together and taught each other everything that they knew. Bonding over their sheer curiosity, they used to go on magical expeditions on children using their precocious magical repertoire to travel the world. Their parents were none the wiser as to what their little ones were up to. Both of them were top of their class and were immediately accepted by the Academy. All of this changed, however, when the fighting began, and they found themselves on opposite sides of the conflict. Love turned to hate as they fought each other to a standstill before being forced to retreat, each feeling that the other betrayed their love.

You are Caele Delynger, aligned with the

Academy.

You have chosen the path of Light and gained the ability Discovery.

Passive: You are aware that you have a

Usurpers

sided rival with an extremely similar set of abilities.

Discovery (Modified Follower): Each night you may target a player and, if they perform an action, determine exactly what that action is.

You win when the

Usurpers

have been eliminated and at least one member of the

Academy

is still alive.

Day 3 has begun!

This sounds like it could be cass

[MariaR]

How does Eddie/Momo/Narna/MC sound to you guys?
Only worry is eddie is voting MC but ehhhh

[MariaR]

to put at L-1 or not

[MariaR]

Heyo we were right! ^_^
Did you get my neighborgood @cass/TD

[MariaR]

Eddie or MC die today tyvm
TD did you get my neighborhood?

[MariaR]

Hey Rach how do you feel on Eddie/MC/ scum team

I can't find the scum in narna/Pere

I'm 2/2 so far bitches

[MariaR]

Wait 2/3 I wanted Dave dead JK

[MariaR]

it's not a perfect scumgame remember when nba died

Who was the one who started the NBA wagon

ohhhhhh

Me.

Oh td has a guilty? k
VOTE: Eddie

[MariaR]

Why can't my top 2 tr's just get along

[MariaR]

Am I scum?

[MariaR]

I bussed both my scum buddies and have been having scum theatre with TD the whole game you CAUGHT ME XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[MariaR]

I'll vote Mc if you ya want

[MariaR]

UNVOTE:
I don't gotta rush but my votes still basically there.

[MariaR]

I can't consecutively jail peeps, if you look at my original claim, which you bloody quoted, you'll note that I jailed mariar twice.

f u

[MariaR]

TD I just want you to love me

Look at my sig please <3

[MariaR]

Cass in no world can think I am scum who is still trying to bus all my scum buddies along with neighboring all my townreads unless I came into this game like "k everyone I can make it to end game even with my friend tunneling me and my head is on a lynch haha"

[MariaR]

Cass in no world can think I am scum who is still trying to bus all my scum buddies along with neighboring all my townreads unless I came into this game like "k everyone I can make it to end game even with my friend tunneling me and my head is on a lynch haha"

Right... which is why I mentioned that you and Eddie is impossible, why I mentioned McMenno is only possibly scum, and why I said you're quite possibly scum with TD (going from deathtunnel and purposeful irritation to best buddies feels like scum). I don't understand /what/ exactly it is that you misread, but you misread something badly.

The only thing I can think of that might clear it up: your toothless push on McMenno would barely count as distancing, let alone bussing. It had all the weight of a mouse fart in a wind tunnel. You and him are ever so slightly less likely to be scum partners than you were before, but I wouldn't rule it out at all.

I've never wanted TD lynched....Ever.
MC and Eddie are scum cass take your pick.

[MariaR]

PoE. TD's reaction to my poking for reactions I liked plus I have other tr's in no world is MC town....Ever

[MariaR]

You can try to lynch me if you want so I can yell at Infinity when this is over. Thank god FA was here b4 you though.

[MariaR]

I know my game's good I've lynched scum and my reads are right so we can lynch me and game be over or we can lynch scum

your choice love.

[MariaR]

except Maria, if you're town you need to come to the realization I'm town, so why exactly am I scum?

PoE

[MariaR]

Yeah, you're just asserting your viewpoint as the correct one with nothing to back it up and insisting I sheep you.

I let someone coast after doing that before and they ended up being scum. Town should be able to point at why they're right, not just insist that they are.

METAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[MariaR]

Let's see
Rach and Cass are obv town
that leaves
Eddie
McMenno
TiphaineDeath
PeregrineV
Narna
TD is town over this list so
Eddie
McMenno
PeregrineV
Narna
PV and Narna are much townier then the other 2 so 1 of them is scum plus Eddie/MC

[MariaR]

When your sr's vote each other trying to bus makes me <3

[MariaR]

MC's vote on Eddie is so fucking bad
VOTE: MC
choo choo

[MariaR]

That's not blacklist worthy the fuck is wrong with you.

[MariaR]

Any question where you say "why would scum do ____" is a question you just answered yourself

[MariaR]

Any question where you say "why would scum do ____" is a question you just answered yourself

I bussed both my scum buddies and have been having scum theatre with TD the whole game you CAUGHT ME XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Cass in no world can think I am scum who is still trying to bus all my scum buddies along with neighboring all my townreads unless I came into this game like "k everyone I can make it to end game even with my friend tunneling me and my head is on a lynch haha"

And the point of all this is?

[MariaR]

Any question where you say "why would scum do ____" is a question you just answered yourself

Good thing none of those questions say anything of the sort. The closest I get is asking why /you/ believe certain things.

"Why would Maria think scum bus"
you just answered yourself

[MariaR]

Er. No. I pointed out that scum bussing in this gamestate is close to handing town the win. Which you yourself also stated, before I did I might add. Why would you think scum would bus here?

Where tf did I ever say anything of the sort?

[MariaR]

Cass in no world can think I am scum who is still trying to bus all my scum buddies along with neighboring all my townreads unless I came into this game like "k everyone I can make it to end game even with my friend tunneling me and my head is on a lynch haha"

Here? Granted it's mostly implied, but that's the only thing I can get out of it. Is there some other, different secret meaning?

I said in my gamestate given how the game was going it was bad for me to bus not that bussing gets you the loss

[MariaR]

I'm bored.
Lynch MC thx

[MariaR]

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[MariaR]

@Pere

[MariaR]

Trying to find the motivation for this but I think it's mostly cause I don't see my reads changing at all and I'm waiting for this to be over with

[MariaR]

Hang on Maria on the way

[MariaR]

I've looked over the playerlist over and over looking for who the final scum are given the first 2 were so easy I think Narna could be town over PV but that's my guess MC is lock scum given how this day has gone I'll go back and try to remember what made me tr PV but I do forget atm I think Narna "Who's dark who's dark!" thing going on the last few days was genuine on wanting to find scum and I don't see why he goes that angle as scum there's an offbeat chance a scum is not in Eddie/TD but given the fact a tr a lot of the playlist that's unlikely and there is a scum in it I think MC is the best lynch given everything we've talked on if anyone tr's MC tell me why thank you

[MariaR]

That isn't a reason to tr someone

[MariaR]

TD no it isn't you shouldn't tr someone for sharing a view point get them to explain it in there own words and look at it that way it's the same way with reads you shouldn't ever tr/sr someone based on reads you need to know WHY they feel that way
I don't get the "why eddie never kills here" thing but I think MC is scum anyway and needs to be our lynch

[MariaR]

Why do you sr me cass I told you you're not allowed to lynch me ^_^

[MariaR]

Let me counter that argument:

1) Eddie could've thought TD was joking and was really going to jail someone else and wouldn't be so blunt

2) Scum see this going on and think "this is the best time to nl

3) Scum Eddie can be like "why would I lead the kill when he would 1v1 me"

4) It can be a huge scum gambit
A lot of this is honestly wifom and I don't think it should be taken into account and you should mostly go on the read you had BEFORE this happened and use reads to base it on that It's why I'm voting MC instead of that pair

[MariaR]

Let me counter that argument:

1) Eddie could've thought TD was joking and was really going to jail someone else and wouldn't be so blunt

2) Scum see this going on and think "this is the best time to nl

3) Scum Eddie can be like "why would I lead the kill when he would 1v1 me"

4) It can be a huge scum gambit
A lot of this is honestly wifom and I don't think it should be taken into account and you should mostly go on the read you had BEFORE this happened and use reads to base it on that It's why I'm voting MC instead of that pair

Also, I forgot...
1 is weak, it assumes extremely bad play from the scumteam, period.
2 is also subpar play, and it incriminates you because if Eddie and TD are town (the only world where TD is town and there's a no-lynch) you're scum by PoE because the /only/ possible substitution for you would be Peregrine, who I'm townreading again. Whoopsie!
3 is something I considered earlier in the day -- it's why I wasn't initially hard-defending, just poking holes in the argument and trying to get people to talk to me while I watched his slot. It took him /ages/ to finally bring up the 1v1 thing and he didn't initially use it to defend his slot. This is my weakest counterargument by a fair margin, I admit, but it's strong enough that I would rather have him survive till /at least/ 4p MyLo/3p LyLo.
4 is counteracted by the fact there is an objectively better way of going about it, namely to kill a townie whose reads were shit and who was under pressure for some of them (me, TD, McMenno and Eddie /all/ could fit this bill depending on the actual team) and use it to lead the charge against a townie who was scrutinizing the NK target by way of NKA. And you can't do this if you're rolling dice on getting JKed. There are other better ways too, none of which involve Eddie making the kill.

1 and 2) Just because a play is "odd" or "not the best on paper" doesn't mean it shouldn't be taken into consideration risky plays can sometimes win games and just dismissing it like "oh better plays can be made" is a really bad mindset to have
3) That's fair it'd be more sus if he brought it up right away the fact he didn't eases my worry with that argument piece
4) Ehhh I don't think what you're saying is true but the fact I came to myself is they'd most likely get found out from not dying alone

[MariaR]

I'm fine with NL aslong as TD promises to use his JK on Rach

[MariaR]

8 players????????????

[MariaR]

To me the only obv town here is rach (even if I have a very high tr on Cass and don't think she's scum) If TD jails Rach any kill would help my reads greatly

[MariaR]

Let me help you:
See the Display posts by user thing? Click All users go down to Rach click it click go read.

Your welcome

In a srs note b I just think Rach's play has been just really gen and I haven't seen posts by Rach that I dislike plus I don't see scum rach going like "guys I'ma fake that you're my target all game!" (I'd be cool though)

[MariaR]

FUCK I WANTED THAT PAGE TOP RC YOU CU

tiepie

-Lovely person

[MariaR]

only bad part to nl is 1 town has to fuck up compared to 2 now

[MariaR]

Cass dying would help me a lot tbh!

[MariaR]

aw you poor thing

[MariaR]

Cass should've been the n1 n2 n3 and n4 night kill imo so the fact cass is alive is legit the only reason she's not lock town for me

[MariaR]

Yo rach do you tr me can I talk to you so you can tr me if not
Pedit: TD pocket me harder do we need to have another reaction test

[MariaR]

I have literally no idea what your p-edit even means....

PERFECT

[MariaR]

No lynching has pros and cons it just depends on your view point in the game.

[MariaR]

I feel like TD has had some of the most genuine reactions this game but one of my tr's sr him

like if TD is scum I'm gonna whipped harder then taylor swifts ex boyfriends

[MariaR]

2: Town has no reason to push Eddie into blitz-hammer territory at practically day-start in MyLo (I feel stupid for missing that and

wish MariaR had pointed it out earlier... I'd have been more likely to agree with her

) and TD's vote alone doesn't do that.

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.lVnd ... &h=300.jpg

[MariaR]

better

[MariaR]

Can yall do me a favor and tell me who's in a neighborhood made by me again TD's role blocks fuck'd me up so I don't know who's in what

[MariaR]

You know who else called postie scum all game?

Meeeeeeeee

Also TD I am threating you to vote MC ^_^

[MariaR]

How do people feel about Pere I feel like he's nonexistent

[MariaR]

Someone read TBA's Iso and tell me how Narna is EVER scum

[MariaR]

When TBA talks to there buddies it has like 0 edge in it what so ever when they talk to town they're pushing it has edge or really nice buddy with people they know (baeread/trans)

[MariaR]

I can see a Eddie/MC/Pere team really easy tbh

[MariaR]

Who's Pere?

Oh Peregrine.

Btw I should probably claim my passive but I feel like it could potentially out the existence of other roles so I'm not 100% sure what the correct play is.

Cass is slowly going torwards that lock town looking at TBA and posties iso's

[MariaR]

oh that quote was there for me cause I was like......ehhhhhh

[MariaR]

TD feels town from an iso dive aswell either scum are really good at interactions or I'm a god

[MariaR]

Wait fuck I'm clearly wrong on one read then....Where's my photo

[MariaR]

you know who also thought postie was scum? was it me? wow yes it was

btw if you think narna is scum, you take the following course of action, it's very simple:

VOTE: narna

see how easy that was

[MariaR]

How do you know how NBA treats their buddies? We only caught one. Who barely posted. Was barely interacted with, but had two serious looking pushes made against them in the very early game.

Also: how can you be reading someone's ISO and not get their acronym correct?

I know the Alisae slot and I've played with them a bit and read a scum game besides even without that read the iso and look at the postie/TBA interactions compared to TBA pushing other people

[MariaR]

Mhm what's your point?

[MariaR]

*sigh* just go read the interactions and see for YOURSELF

[MariaR]

Noooooo that just means 1 other town can't vote him

[MariaR]

CAN YOU ALL GET YOUR FUCKING EGOS IN CHECK AND LYNCH THE SCUM

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[MariaR]

god you're both in the tunnel so deep it's a fucking miracle you have internet

[MariaR]

*sigh* just go read the interactions and see for YOURSELF

I'm reading them. They're worthless. NBA only got vicious with the loudest town players. Definitely didn't get that way with TD -- that was far more of a subtle move by comparison with the moves on TGP/Math-slot, Lil Uzi Vert and FA/me-slot for example. TD was a fairly minimal player during D1, so this makes sense. There was a push or two against him but they were just as toothless as the ones vs. (for example) KFC/Narna-slot, Postie/momo-slot and VoT (who flipped town).

I'm ignoring you go away you upset me with your logic let me be right for once OKAY

[MariaR]

The fk do you mean you can't lynch with town TD

YOU JUST GOTTA VOTE ELSE WHERE O_e

If you were in TD's spot assuming he's town: You jail a sr and no kills you clearly come to the fact you think he's guilty is that such a hard thing for you to comprehend?

this whole "well if td is town we lose anyway so let's lynch him" makes me wanna scream no no in THAT case you try to prove otherwise all day not just give up

[MariaR]

Swallow your pride put your dicks away and lynch elsewhere cause neither is happening today

[MariaR]

Oh shit I forgot it was 5 scum for a sec

My point still stands on you all kindly fucking off on lynching each other

[MariaR]

If you don't think I'd force nl if I don't get what I want you're highly mistaken

[MariaR]

wait I'd be as low as td and eddie jk I'm the team player of the game

[MariaR]

OW OW OW
I'm here you bully I really don't have anything to say now

[MariaR]

Wisdom all you need to know is lynch MC tyvm

[MariaR]

Read his Iso and plus I have townreads ob basically everyone else pllus Poe
Rach is obv town
Cass is town (mostly due to FA but she's towny aswell)
TD/Eddie has 1 scum for sure but not 2
You/Narna has 1 scum for me aswell
Leaving MC

[MariaR]

TD and Eddie doesn't feel like a bus and I don't think they need to do that as scum (could be though)
And since only 3 scum are left logically it's one scum in you/narna aswell but I guess you could say it's 2 scum in you/mc/narna

[MariaR]

I mean I'm perfectly okay with it

[MariaR]

I mean if it wasn't mlylo yes.

[MariaR]

Because I've had this sr from the start of the game and only now are people starting to listen to me I've lynched 2 scum I'ma lynch the 3rd now and fiure out the scum in the 1v1 later if Cass/Rach are scum I lose I don't see myself ever lynching them and Narna and Pere have towntold miles over MC just look at his day today.

[MariaR]

You're not gonna get anywhere if you doubt yourself that just leads to more mistakes than it does wins if anyone wants to give me a town case on MC I'll listen to it but I don't see anything

[MariaR]

you weren't even on the momo wagon even though you had plenty opportunity to

?????????????????????????????????????????????
Did you even read? I was the first one on the momo wagon and I called Postie scum all day I unvoted for a quick second to check something out on Cass regarding LUV and when I came back he was lynched

[MariaR]

I mean you can call them scum all you want but when push comes to shove you gotta vote 'em to make it count

I DID VOTE HIM YOU NIT WIT

[MariaR]

VOTE: momo let's go I have lost interest if this is town w/e I was never lynching cass

[MariaR]

I unvoted for a quick fucking second to check out cass who I thought was caught scum for a second.
Fight me

[MariaR]

Because I've had this sr from the start of the game and only now are people starting to listen to me I've lynched 2 scum I'ma lynch the 3rd now and fiure out the scum in the 1v1 later if Cass/Rach are scum I lose I don't see myself ever lynching them and Narna and Pere have towntold miles over MC just look at his day today.

how the fuck has narna town told lmfao

His whole "Who tf is Dark!" thing seemed gen to me plus his slots seems really towny from scum interactions

I think scum is prob Eddie/Wisdom/MC

[MariaR]

That we know of no.

[MariaR]

I unvoted for a quick fucking second to check out cass who I thought was caught scum for a second.
Fight me

"a quick second" you unvoted, then said "oh oh cass could be confirmed scum" then a day+ later, you say "what do you people think about eddie/momo/narna/me" and didn't mention cass at all, then about a day after THAT cass hammered

inbetween you also made a post debating whether to put them at L-1... I mean you thought he fucked his claim up by claiming 1shot vig while postie claimed something else and later you say "HMMMMMMMM should I put 'em at L-1 or not" while previously having no problems with their lynch

you're right it was much worse than not voting them at all

Where did I talk about a vig? I thought Momo was scum the whole game and just waited because of the cass thing had me slighlty worried there's no reason for scum me to just sit and wait when my partner would obv get lynched PLEASE REACH HARDER MC

[MariaR]

Maria

Why would Scumz Eddie give his vote to town Cass to help lynch momo their scumz killing machine?

As for the no kill last night there are a few scenarios:

1. TD is correct and though there are still multiple scumz, Eddie is scumz and tried to do the kill.

2. Eddie is town and was the target.

3. For some oddball reason Scumz did not kill last night (this might be to give credence to a scumz TD trying to get us to vote Eddie and win the game.

Hey look this is the first time you've ever talked to me. I would say because momo voted obv town and scum eddie knew there was no way cass was getting lynched at that point so did it for the town cred

[MariaR]

You can lynch me then and lose I bet I'll be 3/3 I've lost drive in this game and regained it countless times looking at scums iso makes it really obv who the scum team is I'm said it over and over again I have nothing else I can say the most I could od is go into an ate rage but I'd rather lose the game then my pride.

[MariaR]

You pointed out that some interactions with meta would point to me and I agreed to that but reading interactions with TBA/Postie on Narna make him obv town along with you/Rach leaving Wisdom/MC/one of TD/Eddie (leaning Eddie still) It's really that simple . It's not guessing it's logic and if you can't see that it's not my fault

[MariaR]

whats the scumteam, Maria? Mcmenno, me and Eddie? And why wouldnt i gun for an easy TD lynch in that case?

Any question that starts with "why wouldn't/would I" is already an answered question but for the sake of convo: I don't think a TD lynch would be as easy as you're implying

[MariaR]

reading interactions with TBA/Postie on Narna make him obv town

show me those interactions

Have you read Postie or TBA's Iso give me your own thoughts on it. I'll give my comment after

[MariaR]

I've retyped what I want to say 3 times now (mostly because the normal one has a lot of capslock ate) but what do you think about my MC push is weak by your logic cass half your pushes are weak aswell even if I disagree with it

[MariaR]

UNVOTE:

[MariaR]

ZZZZZZZ
Can cass be scum over MC and I am a moron I don't know why MC votes tip over me there...time for more RE READING

[MariaR]

Cass simple question answer it however you like.

Why are you town?

[MariaR]

Cass simple question answer it however you like.

Why are you town?

Because of my role PM. I was a shit player most of the game and replaced into Frozen Angel's slot, and she played pretty bad too. So I don't have much else. I mean... maybe you think momo (who is the least subtle player I've seen on this site) would bus in LyLo? That's you, though. But I'm pretty sure that you're scum, so your read on me isn't feeling relevant.

ty thats all I needed

[MariaR]

VOTE: MC

[MariaR]

UNVOTE:

[MariaR]

VOTE: mcmenno

??????????????????
The fk is this

[MariaR]

Oh nvm people think I'm bussing MC lol okay

[MariaR]

BUSSING ALL MY PARTNERS BB WHO'S NEXT TD GET UNDER THAT BUS

[MariaR]

can we lynch Wisdom I'd feel better on that one ty

[MariaR]

Honestly can't tell if my reads are just really shit or this town is full of dumbasses

[MariaR]

Cassielle/Titus has been modkilled for playing the game under two accounts.

(This is a joke.)

I was about to scream

[MariaR]

can we lynch Wisdom I'd feel better on that one ty

Single and ready to mingle yet?

Vote Wisdom and we'll start talking

no

[MariaR]

VOTE: Wisdom

[MariaR]

For the record I think both of these wagons are very likely scum so this is fine with me even if my mc read isn't death tunnel city anymore

[MariaR]

"Someone kept the same posting time over and over again" Prob makes them town

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[MariaR]

very tempted to hammer and end this f show

[MariaR]

Cass I hope for once in my life I am very wrong but I think you're wrong.

[MariaR]

WAIT NEITHER OF YOU ARE SCUM WTF

SHOCKERRRRRRRRRRRR

[MariaR]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FULL TOWN WAGON AND TD FUCKS IT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[MariaR]

Wait OHHHHHHHHHHH SHIT

[MariaR]

3/4 READS RIGHT FKERS LETS WAGON WISDOM

[MariaR]

Hey Cass if I put you in a PT with Narna would you talk?

[MariaR]

Answer my question so I can hammer ffs

[MariaR]

I want you both to talk on the gamestate and reads I think scum is Wisdom/Eddie/MC

Mc is basically scum at this point so it's my job to get the other scum lynched and my town reads to tr each other since I can't put myself in a pt

[MariaR]

VOTE: MC

w/e I blame this loss on you tomorrow

[MariaR]

I have 3 of the scum and you dare say I'm scu, kk hf with that

[MariaR]

@Infinity You make me upset pissed and sad

@Cass T O L D Y O U (kinda)

@TD Can I stay in your pocket longer?

@MC I love you

@Transcend lol "maria obv scum"

GG scum the game was really fun for the most part I had a bit of drive on and off but it was fun ty RC for modding

[MariaR]

NARNA NO
I refuse to admit you did anything to me I blame SCUM INTERACTIONS
...You're okay

[MariaR]

I picked my role for one person and that person sr'd me....Feels bad

[MariaR]

Town had both puzzle pieces but didn't want to put them together
TD fucked me over hardcore
Infinity why couldn't you just tr me and we could've ruled the game

[MariaR]

I'm more curios as to why mc and Maria played like they did

I had Poe reads due to interactions and reactions that I liked *shrug*

[MariaR]

I feel like TD has had some of the most genuine reactions this game but one of my tr's sr him

like if TD is scum I'm gonna whipped harder then taylor swifts ex boyfriends

Never doing a reaction test again

[MariaR]

Maf-ria