Elemental Trinity: Endgame

[MariaR]

That we know of no.

[McMenno]

I unvoted for a quick fucking second to check out cass who I thought was caught scum for a second.
Fight me

"a quick second" you unvoted, then said "oh oh cass could be confirmed scum" then a day+ later, you say "what do you people think about eddie/momo/narna/me" and didn't mention cass at all, then about a day after THAT cass hammered

inbetween you also made a post debating whether to put them at L-1... I mean you thought he fucked his claim up by claiming 1shot vig while postie claimed something else and later you say "HMMMMMMMM should I put 'em at L-1 or not" while previously having no problems with their lynch

you're right it was much worse than not voting them at all

[McMenno]

So basically those who are pushing Eddie really hard:

1. You think that Momo hard bussed his fellow scum mate?

2. You think Eddie gave Cass his vote and that Cass put both votes on Momo and you still think both Eddie and Cass are scumz?

1. bussing with 4 scum alive in lylo is NOT RISKY

2. bussing with 4 scum alive in lylo is NOT RISKY

[Eddie Cane]

at least td has claimed a result

speaking of which, has there been a massclaim? do we know if something else could have caused the lack of kill?

everyone except mcm who refuses.

[Wisdom]

mcmenno did you have anything to do with the kill yes/no

[RachMarie]

Maria

Why would Scumz Eddie give his vote to town Cass to help lynch momo their scumz killing machine?

As for the no kill last night there are a few scenarios:

1. TD is correct and though there are still multiple scumz, Eddie is scumz and tried to do the kill.

2. Eddie is town and was the target.

3. For some oddball reason Scumz did not kill last night (this might be to give credence to a scumz TD trying to get us to vote Eddie and win the game.

[MariaR]

I unvoted for a quick fucking second to check out cass who I thought was caught scum for a second.
Fight me

"a quick second" you unvoted, then said "oh oh cass could be confirmed scum" then a day+ later, you say "what do you people think about eddie/momo/narna/me" and didn't mention cass at all, then about a day after THAT cass hammered

inbetween you also made a post debating whether to put them at L-1... I mean you thought he fucked his claim up by claiming 1shot vig while postie claimed something else and later you say "HMMMMMMMM should I put 'em at L-1 or not" while previously having no problems with their lynch

you're right it was much worse than not voting them at all

Where did I talk about a vig? I thought Momo was scum the whole game and just waited because of the cass thing had me slighlty worried there's no reason for scum me to just sit and wait when my partner would obv get lynched PLEASE REACH HARDER MC

[RachMarie]

With 4 scum in LYLO you get a TOWN player not your killing machine

You only needed ONE town player and boom 4 scum and the game is won.

Scum blew it badly.

[MariaR]

Maria

Why would Scumz Eddie give his vote to town Cass to help lynch momo their scumz killing machine?

As for the no kill last night there are a few scenarios:

1. TD is correct and though there are still multiple scumz, Eddie is scumz and tried to do the kill.

2. Eddie is town and was the target.

3. For some oddball reason Scumz did not kill last night (this might be to give credence to a scumz TD trying to get us to vote Eddie and win the game.

Hey look this is the first time you've ever talked to me. I would say because momo voted obv town and scum eddie knew there was no way cass was getting lynched at that point so did it for the town cred

[RachMarie]

Stakes are high we screw up now, scum will win.

I am trying to figure out all the logic so we make sure we lynch scumz

[Wisdom]

rach scum dont always play perfectly

i havent read what you're talking about but i dont think you should write off possible gambits and/or buses from them

[RachMarie]

@ Wis you mean no kill, right? since last night there was no kill.

[McMenno]

mcmenno did you have anything to do with the kill yes/no

no

With 4 scum in LYLO you get a TOWN player not your killing machine

You only needed ONE town player and boom 4 scum and the game is won.

Scum blew it badly.

killing machine? more like "easy bus that if they ever get caught it won't be a big detriment"

[RachMarie]

uhhh did you miss that except for N 1 and last night Momo did ALL the night kills?

[McMenno]

...and...

[Narna]

Really. We have a hard guilty collectively shared by Eddie, McMenno and TD. There is never, ever any need to lynch outside of that pool today short of someone jumping up and scumclaiming.

PV's play this phase did nothing to sort himself or others in mylo, and he's a dark soul. PV is easy to read lategame. I can also see Rach claiming that Postie was the killer n3 (with zero evidence, mind you) to try and throw me. Eddie doesn't seem to be happening, but I'm getting more and more sure of this. All that matters is lynching scum, not playing probability.

[Narna]

This phase is probably the towniest I've ever seen McMenno play. It's a weird look.

[Narna]

I wasn't completely 100% totally sold on PV town, it just was my best guess. I'm not sold on Wisdom yet either, I need to see more from them.

Yeah, RachMarie is obvtown (though largely inactive).
Narna is CUTE: Creature (the D1 NK) called him out as scum when he was unable to come up with any meaningful reads, and had prior said he expected Narna to gamesolve instantly. Narna has since coasted and played to a bad-town or def-scum approach. I've played multiple games with Creature, and he was probably very serious (if a bit hyperbolic) about his expectations for Narna, and he's not a bad town player. That indicates to me that Narna is probably a very good town player -- but he hasn't acted like good town, he's acted like, at best, bad town. I've got no real choice but to scumread him as a result.
MariaR or McMenno must be scum, but I don't think they can be scum together, due to a late-game hard-push (starting /in LyLo/) that feels strictly losing for scum (since neither of them are hard-backing Narna and McMenno is in fact willing to lynch Narna).
TD might be tilted town, but if he is then I think he'll throw the game for town if we end up back in LyLo with him around, and so I have no choice but to treat him as scum, since if I don't I think we lose either way.

And yes, if Eddie is town, I cannot be scum, this was mechanically proven. We must be scum together or I must be town, and A: I'm town, B: I strongly believe Eddie is town due to his play and my thoughts on his predecessor.

I happen to know

for a fact

that Creature has me in his top 5 townies on the site, but I'm going to need you to point out where he says anything about his read on me. It seemed to me like he was mostly reaction fishing with his 'scumread'.

I'm still not seeing the obvtown Rach I know and love (It's not just the activity Rach).

Maria and Mcmenno look townier than PV/Rach this phase.

"We lose if TD is town, so scum" ok. It's stuff like this that made me weary of having the major Transcend pushers around for lylo. I won't push you too hard on this, but can you please assure me that you didn't track the jk last night at least?

[Eddie Cane]

can we lynch narna yet

[Narna]

kukuku

I don't have solid freaking reasons for scumreading you. cass is lock town and is certain you're scum. that's all the reasoning I need. rach is never getting lynched so u can stop trting.

[Narna]

I don't see myself lynching outside of Eddie/Wisdom today.

[Eddie Cane]

that's cool because neither of us are getting lynched but you might be

[Narna]

Talking with caught scum is fun, fun!

[Eddie Cane]

your scum game is pretty bad I can tutor you if you want

[TiphaineDeath]

Fun for the whole family?