Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Ginngie]

and he said to the man, running the stand

[Ginngie]

page top

[Ginngie]

stealing

[Ginngie]

UGH

[Ginngie]

for a klondike bar

[Ginngie]

Are you TheRealGin-N-Tonic?

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

You're gonna hate me but I buddy as town :3

[Ginngie]

scummy enough to compromise, townie enough to not be worth pushing solo

[Ginngie]

That's basically the TL;DR

[Ginngie]

Btw that wasn't me trying to make a derp tell. There wasn't anything there trying to make me look town I truly am an idiot

[Ginngie]

Daykill EddieFenix

the first one didn't go through
you didn't think this one would, did you?

daykill QR

[Ginngie]

It may not be dates but at least I'm getting something

[Ginngie]

Ari hasn't said a damn word

[Ginngie]

You're so new it's CUTE!

[Ginngie]

Don't fret it, I've had worse moments

[Ginngie]

Ya know, it gets to the point where it sounds fake

[Ginngie]

Ya know, it gets to the point where it sounds fake

it's about 50% exaggeration, yes
but seriously, don't do that, it makes me nervous
i've only lead a town once and everything went to shit very quickly

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

Nah. Your cookie is laced.

[Ginngie]

23 posts means he shares 1.34% of the total posts

and there is texcat at 33 which is 1.84%

and dramonic with 31 which is 1.74%

and Snarky with 0.39%

[Ginngie]

Okay I don't know if I asked this but like, what is "throwing shade" during a game of maf?

[Ginngie]

UNVOTE:

[Ginngie]

YO

okay questions

math is voting because of a role fish yet the texcat ISO shows no actual signs of role fishing.

Also texcat showed A2's case held no water regarding the buddying thing.

What else is there actually to voting texcat cuz I'm not digging it rn

P-edit: Creature seriously, stop spam posting

[Ginngie]

P-edit: Creature seriously, stop spam posting

Spoiler:

Around 2014, we moved into a new meta that seems to involve at least a portion of our population posting a lot. Often in a row.

1

You're getting a little infamous

[Ginngie]

This is the last post I"m bringing it up in but watch this magic trick

Spoiler: Post 1

VOTE: texcatIf I don't like texcat wagon anymore, we could always go back to Aronis.

Hopefully we won't have to wait until texcat responds to pressure (because from my experience I doubt she will)

Actually meh...I could do also SnarkySnowman if someone doesn't want texcat.


I'm somewhatly afraid texcat is just the usual mislynch bait.

Spoiler: Post 2

I want to push a wagon forward.

What's the problem of it being a naked vote?

Spoiler: Post 3

idk, I thought players thought he was town.

Spoiler: Post 4

I already disliked 1904 because it's something scum usually posts, let me see the rest from Quantum.

I concluded QuantumRadius is an alt.

That's literally 12 posts on page 77 turned into 4

i even gave you the benefit of making another post when a question was asked and you answered.

SO, quit the spam.

[Ginngie]

Snarky is lack of content and a strong town read on TB when there was no reason to have TB at anything but null

[Ginngie]

For me it's the read on TB

Spoiler: Really nothing alignment indicative in this series of posting.

Ego post!

VOTE: Aronis

Because he was my scum buddy in mastina's last game.

VOTE: Aronis

Because he was my scum buddy in mastina's last game.

thanks for letting me know that your reads are awful so I can ignore them

Weird reaction to an RVS vote.

VOTE: Aronis

Choo choo!

@Mod - Kent has to replace out. I will be replacing the hydra

<<< Acknowledged. >>>

think, you've given no thoughts on the game so far

I know. I have had a few other things come up this week unexpectedly. I'll be catching up tonight and contributing to the game

Catching up now. Sorry I have been rather worthless this game so far.

My activity should improve in the coming week.

Now, Snarky said by page 10, TB was his only read, and that it was strong town.

Spoiler: This is apparently a god tier ISO for obv!town

Ego post!

VOTE: Aronis

Because he was my scum buddy in mastina's last game.

VOTE: Aronis

Because he was my scum buddy in mastina's last game.

thanks for letting me know that your reads are awful so I can ignore them

Weird reaction to an RVS vote.

VOTE: Aronis

Choo choo!

As you can see, there is literally nothing to sway your mind to scum or town and this apparently gives Snarky strong town vibes, and is the only read.

[Ginngie]

I mean I asked what's the deal with texcat and there wasn't anything actually legitimate so I hopped off.

I'm swaying onto Snarky atm but I gotta look at zeus as well.

[Ginngie]

NO MORE VOTES

[Ginngie]

paraphrase like it's 11:57pm and you got 2 minutes to finish your term paper and hit submit.

[Ginngie]

wait a sec
you're both in the dark

how do you both not have the same thing

Mafia know their roles.

Where does it say that?

I think it would be in the OP and which it was in the game advert, the sign up, the OP, and mentioned you should read it multiple times

Ask the mod, idk

[Ginngie]

You mean SAD?

[Ginngie]

Honestly, that is so confusing to me and what you're trying to get at.

[Ginngie]

#Tiredbones

and like, it just doesn't make any sense?

correct me here

1. Aronis sees SAD
2. Aronis wants to report SAD
3. Reasoning is?
4. It's okay?
5. townslip what?

P-edit: What's the point of reporting?

[Ginngie]

WAIT THIS IS TEXCAT

Okay just switch the names

[Ginngie]

not gonna lie, from your perspective it's biased.

Occam's razor that bitch and you get texcat being weirded out seeing someone.

In order for that to be fake, texcat would have to have seen SAD being a reviewer, research his games, find scum games, see that he shitposts a lot

then create this weird thing where because SAD posted as a reviewer after finding out who he was, also think it was SAD posting in a PT was him posting in the wrong place and think, oh god, better fake not knowing who SAD was.

OR

you have the nice simple version of, not knowing who SAD was, who are you? and scene

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

Two options:

doesn't know SAD, is weirded out

OR

does know SAD, fakes being weirded out.

It doesn't hold any water

[Ginngie]

assumptions

no.

[Ginngie]

It's just that argument is just really putting faith into conf!bias and hoping you're actually right

you could make a religion out of that

As for texcat's ISO, I felt texcat was on the stronger side of the argument against Alisae
There was also some involvement in RVS and other questions down the road.

What do you think of the RVS play there?

[Ginngie]

What else is there actually to voting texcat cuz I'm not digging it rn

He attempted a townslip in dark PT that was just bad.

I mean this is literally what you told me about texcat so?

Also you said nothing and I asked you about their play in thread

[Ginngie]

Also texcat showed A2's case held no water regarding the buddying thing.

[Ginngie]

If their role is literally town-linked

It's fucking stupid to lynch them.

I have my own theory but one needs to come into the light and assess from there

[Ginngie]

Your scumread of texcat is her doing nothing.

can you do like, a pbp or something in showing me the posts that just mean absolutely nothing because I can do the same and actually make the magic happen.

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: I like this posts as they seem to be doing something, so nancy can you tell me why each post is doing nothing?

The whole spate of recent posts from 79CE has not done much to convince me that they are not scum.

The 79 CE wagon has stalled

That doesn't mean that they're not scum. In fact, some might say that it makes it

more

likely.

VOTE: 79 CE

For claiming town and town slipping by not knowing the number of scum in the dark thread.

That wasn't a town slip.
Questioning 5 Scum out of 18 players was just for show.

Exactly. Perhaps I should have said... for attempting to town slip.

VOTE: Aronis

Because he was my scum buddy in mastina's last game.

thanks for letting me know that your reads are awful so I can ignore them

Titus, he did the same sort of thing here, too.

Rauth could still be scum bussing and expecting the wagon to die.
Not only did Aronis post in red (obviously on the mind due to seeing red on their role pm) but also called the other Scum read town and tried to say that my reads won't be worth reading just because I voiced my opinion on the opening post.

Easy game, easy money.

you decided I'm scum solely because I posted a quote using red text, anybody in their right minds would discard your reads in a heartbeat

So why don't you vote Vedith instead of Rauth? What is your case on Rauth?

He's voting what's their face, not Rauth.

I stand corrected.

@Aronis, so why aren't you voting Vedith? And is your only case on what's their face a hydra slip? And you think Vedith's case is weak?

The more people post "you should just

know

that I'm town" the more I dislike the playerslot.

This kind of rhetoric is silly. If you really expect people to have a confident town read of you less than thirteen pages into a game (if we remove mastina's posts, this thread is probably only at 10, moderator influencing game thread length, tyranny), you are you silly.

While I do believe that confident posting is good, the high level of "I'm right and you should just

get it

" is irritating and needs to stop. If you want to convince me of something, you're going to have to actually provide reasons rather than try to berate me into thinking you're right because the sky is blue, you had a banana for breakfast, and your dog didn't shit on the floor today. Your good mood or overwhelming magical self-confidence and competence is not a reason that I will accept.

I absolutely agree with this post, but hey, it's mafia; that's what people do.


I still think CE 79 is a good lynch, but Titus, I appreciate your 374 and can see your point, but I see town jump on what they see as an rvs wagon all the time for no reason at all and just because it's there.

Based on this VCA Rauthedir reads like Town newb, Aronis reads like lynchbait, Vedith always annoys me as Town, EddieFenix reads like a limp in vote after not providing more details like I asked. Titus and dramonic seem like scum partners.

Thinking Titus dramonic EddieFenix.

You can deduce all of that from a vote count???

I just went back to the signup thread to see which half of the hydra originally was interested in the game. And it was ThinkBig. I also noted that ThinkBig said he would be active, but hates being scum. Just using that for meta, you might think he was scum here. I hope he picks up his prod and explains.

I have no clue what MathBlade is on about. Not rolefishing, I have no idea where you got that.

A2

, since you objected to my question to Aelita, I suggest that you ISO her and ask a better question. To me it's like she's playing some other game, not mafia.

Has she said anything, made any sense in the Light PT?

Is that what this site has become, spam nonsense?

Evidently.
VOTE: Aelita
spoiler=The entire ISO

Hello.

Paddy is a third party. Paddy's first target will be the doctor. So will the doctor kindly out themselves so Paddy can kill them?

- Paddy

Garrisons.

VOTE: Aronis

10 pages in. Only strong read is TB town.

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

Lol! I have contributed nothing to the game so far (that will change today) I should not be a town read

This is A. Scum or B. Rlly stupid
Take your pick

Of course you'd say that so deter people from lynching you so it means jack squat.

The love of my life

Love you Paddy. Stay adorable.

bb

Titus,
please don't let this turn into Spring Fever
Like, I can't see Texcat as town, if you think they're town help me out here.
Like Titus, you know I am willing to work with you, it's just things like what happened in Spring Fever and Railgun where you hardpush town just give me sads

Also, What do you think of the Bulb v Gin fight?
I'm still trying to make something out of that.

Who are you?

And why are you trying so blatantly to buddy up to Titus?

I am completely frustrated this game. It would help me a lot if people would just say what they mean and mean what they say. At least some of the time.

Mathblade accuses me of rolefishing every time I post, but I don't see what I'm doing that's rolefishing. And no one bothers to explain it to me.

I ask about Aelita's handful of nonsense posts and all I get is A2 saying they look normal for Aelita and a accusation that I'm not moving the game forward. But at least Aelita is getting replaced.

I wade through a ton of posts from overnight and end up with a fake claim from Aronis.

I feel like everyone is speaking in some foreign language.

VOTE: Aronis

<<< Surprisingly your post didn't break the site but all the same I have taken precautions and removed the nested spoilers which have the nasty tendency to break the site since they don't work. >>>

[Ginngie]

IF RAUTH CAN SUPPORT A MASON CLAIM

WHY ARE WE TRYING TO LYNCH A POSSIBLE MASON

I AM TRYING TO BE NICE RIGHT NOW

SO WORK WITH ME HERE

Also hahaha Titus scum read another mason

[Ginngie]

Do you think a scum mason

Well your first mistake

[Ginngie]

was giving me a pagetop

[Ginngie]

THANK YOU

also I wiki'd the thing and town-linked gives like 3 options, lovers, masons, neighbors.

That's pretty much it

[Ginngie]

This is the last little piece of logic I'm adding to this before I let aronis do some talking.

1st: Aronis claims mason
2nd: masons are confirmed town
3rd: He is accused of knowing his role, meaning he is scum
4th: If he knows his role as scum, meaning he is actually a mason as he has claimed, then that means he's confirmed town, so he can't be scum.

Wonderful.

[Ginngie]

Scum masons are a thing.

First off, <3

Secondly, there are 3 types of neighborhoods, two town who dont know their both town, 1 town and 1 scum who don't know each other's alignments, and then you have a hood with 2 town who are confirmed town to each other.

Don't get them mixed up :3

[Ginngie]

IT WOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF SCUM AND A TOWNIE

A MASON

IS ONE THAT KNOWS

THAT THEIR LINKED PARTNERS

ARE NOT PART OF THE MAFIA

AND WITH IT BEING EXPLICITLY 14:4 TOWN:MAFIA

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A SCUM MASON

[Ginngie]

sorry for getting worked up there

It's just

nevermind

[Ginngie]

and with it being explicitly 14:4 Town:mafia

I know the wiki

mafia is a no go in a masonry

are there other parties in this game? No.

so a masonry is a perfect masonry.

[Ginngie]

"as the definition of a Mason or Monk is that they are confirmed not to be a member of a specific non-Town faction."

There is 1 non-Town faction.

any more questions

please say no

[Ginngie]

not getting angry and yelly is going to be by far the hardest thing I've done while playing mafia.

That wasn't a question, can't get mad, but I'm done. Just ask your question. Oh my god everything I try to say comes out insulting.

[Ginngie]

I was just going to wait until after I got to the light side in order to find out exactly what my role is before softing. There were some things I said that could be taken as softing though, now that I look at my ISO. Specifically my 'No softs' post and then eventual backing off of Aronis could have been taken by Aronis as responding to a soft he did before that point (If he did soft before that point, I haven't checked myself.) Why claim Masons though?

Town linked roles are: neighbors/lovers/enabler/mason/backup

Like, ya'll can be a lot.


Claiming mason is what he does because he's town and wants to live to see what it is. There truly isn't any benefit of killing him, well at least today.

If he's a lover/neighbor, then he's expendable again.

[Ginngie]

where was the role fishing because I cant find it at all

[Ginngie]

what in the fuck

[Ginngie]

Okay we're making a new form of analysis, instead of post by post analysis, I need a word by word analysis because there is no way I see role fishing.

[Ginngie]

case texcat

[Ginngie]

Oh holy gods of mafiascum, I pray to thee. Tell me who the scumfucks are, but retell if you say Aronis or Rauth as your little minion does not want to risk the possibility of lynching a mason.

You rang?

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ginngie

[Ginngie]

Gin
can you remind me again who's posting you do care about and who's posting you don't care about?

yee

off the top of my head

texcat
bulba
Titus
Math
A2
Rauth
Aronis
Snarky
DrCirco
Eddie

long pause

yeah I cant remember anyone past that list

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

Gin
can you remind me again who's posting you do care about and who's posting you don't care about?

yee

off the top of my head

texcat
bulba
Titus
Math
A2
Rauth
Aronis
Snarky
DrCirco
Eddie

long pause

yeah I cant remember anyone past that list

Spoiler: People I forgot

Vedith, FKB, dramonic, QR, BTD6, and 79 CE

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ginngie

wut

wat

[Ginngie]

because I'm a god

[Ginngie]

can you talk to me about Eddie?
I could be missing something that people are see and I'm just not.

tbh he's null cuz I have no idea how to read him.

[Ginngie]

THANK

YOU

[Ginngie]

you got Vedith going for ya and ya argued with A2 a bit, I can't really pin point what you're after so ya null

[Ginngie]

VOTE: SNARKAYYU

[Ginngie]

VOTE: ginngie

Spoiler:

lol

[Ginngie]

Honestly I don't trust anything Vedith is saying right now

MAINLY BECAUSE ALL THIS INFO IS IN THE FIRST POST

THE GAME ADVERT

AND THE SIGN UP THREAD

[Ginngie]

Snarky

You still haven't justified your TB read

you have no reads

you're doing nothing to push the game forward.

You're scum.

[Ginngie]

Those pushing Aronis is seriously just willfully ignoring information to push what they want. It's evident with Vedith ignoring the central mechanics

ALSO

Vedith is in the dark, meaning he should know for a fact that the dark side doesn't have their roles named.

It's a bullshit defense and a fake lack of knowledge.

[Ginngie]

Players who begin in the Dark will not be informed of what their role is. Instead, they will be informed of their alignment, and of their role type. (E.g. a Vigilante would be "Town Killing", a Cop would be "Town Investigative".)

YOU HAD TO CONFIRM YOUR ROLE WITH MASTINA

SO

YOU KNOW THIS INFO

[Ginngie]

and why am I scum?

because I pushed you?

great :^)

So

you have one strong town read which is ThinkBig/DrCirno because he did absolutely nothing

and you have one scum read and that person just so happened to call you out way early in the game

b-e-a-tiful <3

[Ginngie]

Players who begin in the Dark will not be informed of what their role is. Instead, they will be informed of their alignment, and of their role type. (E.g. a Vigilante would be "Town Killing", a Cop would be "Town Investigative".)

YOU HAD TO CONFIRM YOUR ROLE WITH MASTINA

SO

YOU KNOW THIS INFO

What are you going on about?
I'm not saying everyone knows their role. I'm talking about the flip being said or not.
Aronis knew their role and knew they were linked with Rauth. You just confirmed that Aronis is Scum in your eyes.

the possibility of Aronis being a mason means I'm not lynching a mason. It's that simple.

[Ginngie]

Both

Aronis

and rauth

are town linked

THE POSSIBILITY IS THERE

[Ginngie]

Aronis is telling the truth

because Rauth confirmed they share the role.

How can Aronis not be the that role while Rauth also confirming they got the same role?

I get what you're saying but simply because Rauth actually confirmed it makes me believe the claim on both parties.

[Ginngie]

and why am I scum?

because I pushed you?

great :^)

So

you have one strong town read which is ThinkBig/DrCirno because he did absolutely nothing

and you have one scum read and that person just so happened to call you out way early in the game

b-e-a-tiful <3

1. There are a lot of things about you that don't feel right - beyond just gut feeling. Will quote some stuff when I'm at a PC.
2. You actually think I'm scum and not a PL. Lying for towncred or something? That makes no sense. Im a PL not a scumread unless you're bullshitting.
3. You have no scumreads after 90 pages that you seem to want to push before deadline

I'm down lynching aronis too.

I have multiple reads that I'd rather not distract everyone with yet since I want to push you, not answer a million questions about why someone is a scumread vs scumlean etc. I'd also like to get up to date first too, I'm still on page 70 readup wise

last day and you're up for lynch, now you start pushing someone, and it happens to be your accuser.

2. Yes, I think you're scum, it started when you town read only TB and he did literally nothing as compared to Bulba who would like analyze shit, and there was Titus, Aronis, Math, and a bunch of people actually producing content and you ignore it all.

3. I've expressed scum reads and pushed them every time I said them so this is a lie, you're not reading and I can truthfully back up what I say with examples.

and you say this bullshit of "I have reads I just don't want to say cuz distraction" which we both know is just an excuse to not give reads you dont have.

P-edit: I'm not bullshitting ya man it's called playing it safe.

[Ginngie]

I mean I enjoy how you call the TB thing a big thing - I said that was my tr at page 10. That ignores 88% of the current game

That.

Was.

Literally.

All you did.

This entire day.

[Ginngie]

there's no associations in an Eddie lynch
that's why I want to cfd ginngie

what even is cfd

[Ginngie]

chinese fire drill
basically we switch wagons really fast

That's just not going to happen

You can try again day 2 but you might just catch me when I give a shit and then you wont be able to lynch me.

[Ginngie]

I mean, with literally 22 hours left and it being holiday, it just wont happen.

So you either do Aronis or Snarky, depending on what side you believe and stop vanity voting because those get scummy near deadline

[Ginngie]

YA KNOW I WAS MAKING A POINT DEAR

AND YA RUINED IT

;~;

[Ginngie]

What exactly is it about me you want to lynch right now?

cuz like, in your pbpa you're like, yeah could be town, would compromise

and it's like, you're "compromising" is trying to start a wagon that is going no where?

[Ginngie]

Second, @everyone Why is Snarky vote a thing? I mean every game that I've seen him lurking this bad he was scum, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

[Ginngie]

"Lynch Gin because he's been scum hunting, I know I haven't so because I add nothing of value, I'm pro-town

[Ginngie]

"Lynch Gin because he's been scum hunting, I know I haven't so because I add nothing of value, I'm pro-town

>hunting two strong scumreads
>not adding anything valuable

mmhmm

He has two strong scum reads now?

When did that happen?

Exclude the OMGUS what's he done?

[Ginngie]

Because Aronis isn't making silly mistakes as scum. He just doesn't. He is being scummy to see who votes him.

ehhh, I'm honestly fading fast on this slot.

[Ginngie]

Because Aronis isn't making silly mistakes as scum. He just doesn't. He is being scummy to see who votes him.

ehhh, I'm honestly fading fast on this slot.

*This slot as in Aronis

[Ginngie]

You're saying in a 18 player game it's all weird coincidence

P-edit: yeah I'm switching over without an actual reason being stated

[Ginngie]

Yep, I'm actually a town investigative I crumbed it in posts a while back

?

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Aronis

[Ginngie]

1. mostly the ti claim changed my mind, I'm not willing to risk that this early
2. I seriously can't choose they're both that bad. snarky's up for inactivity, aronis for whatever the hell that reaction test thing was, and they're both stupid choices. can't believe we spent 3 weeks on that
3. I moved to ginngie, it's slightly more likely to happen. happy? no?

I'm not happening wtf?

[Ginngie]

So the coincidence of Rauth actually being town linked is astronomical.

[Ginngie]

So the coincidence of Rauth actually being town linked is astronomical.

I'm not sure you know how statistics work. He had at least an 11.76% chance of picking a linked person to say he was Masons with. Or looking at it from the perspective that he was always going to pick Rauth, then that's at least an 11.11% that Rauth would be linked. Improbable? Sure. But not impossible, and certainly not astronomical.

-Kelvin

Semantics.

What even is the point of it.

That's a period and not a question mark because there is no point.

[Ginngie]

So the coincidence of Rauth actually being town linked is astronomical.

I'm not sure you know how statistics work. He had at least an 11.76% chance of picking a linked person to say he was Masons with. Or looking at it from the perspective that he was always going to pick Rauth, then that's at least an 11.11% that Rauth would be linked. Improbable? Sure. But not impossible, and certainly not astronomical.

-Kelvin

Semantics.

What even is the point of it.

That's a period and not a question mark because there is no point.

It's not semantics, it's an important distinction. A 1/10 chance of him accidentally making a correct claim that he and Rauth were linked is not unreasonable and so is worth considering. If it were something like 1/50, then we could talk about how ridiculously improbably it is that that happened.

-Kelvin

First off, guessing 1 out of 17 is a 5.8% chance cuz you can't divide 1 by 17 apparently, and there are 12 categories that Rauth could be given the set up.

So you multiply that 1 in 12 chance with Aronis picking Rauth and you have a rounded up 0.50% chance...

So that's 1 in 200 roughly

4 times your terms for it being "absurd"

[Ginngie]

The truth of the matter is that your stunt was bullshit through and through

[Ginngie]

GIRL IM TRYIN

I DONT LIKE ARONIS SO I BUILD A SNARKY WAGON

THEN NO ONE CARES

THEN ARONIS SAYS EVERYTHING WAS BULLSHIT

SO I GO TO ARONIS

AND PEOPLE NOW WANT SNARKY

WHY CANT I EVER GET WHAT I WANT

[Ginngie]

Given my track record I can promise one is town for sure.

You just gotta tell me which one that is

[Ginngie]

Well tell me why babe

[Ginngie]

YALL

[Ginngie]

CIVILIZATION DOESN'T MATTER CREATURE

FOCUS ON THIS GAME

AND DONT USE A BAD GAME ONE PLAYER HAD IN AN ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THEIR PLAY THIS GAME

THANK YOU, OKAY BAI

[Ginngie]

GINNGIE I AM SCARED YOU ARE BUDDYING ME.

I HAVE TO GO TO WORK NOW.

I'M GOING TO WORK AS WELL


WORK BUDDIES!!

[Ginngie]

You have a raging murdercock for that word policy

[Ginngie]

I need a vote count

[Ginngie]

Why is Ginngie scum?

Lmao @Titus

[Ginngie]

oh I'm buddying now?

[Ginngie]

Buddying QR?

Where?

Literally poke QR with the word buddy as a joke and I wholesomely disagree with QR so that's a no.

Math? I tell Creature to stop shading a player and that's buddying?

I know you can do better

[Ginngie]

oh I'm buddying now?

Yeah. Everyone holds Civ against Math when they say "it's obvious". Just a pretty obvious thing, and with good reason. Especially in a plurality lynching scenario, it's more important to work together. You're encouraging Math to vote alone hours before deadline.

HOW

WHAT CONTEXT AM I TELLING MATH TO VOTE?

[Ginngie]

THE ENTIRE CONVO I TALKED TO CREATURE AND THAT SOMEHOW TURNS INTO ME BUDDYING MATH BY TELLING MATH TO GO VOTE ON ONE WAGON

YOU CANT BE SERIOUS

[Ginngie]

TBH I've been getting flashbacks but I got paranoia cuz I've only seen his scum game

[Ginngie]

CIVILIZATION DOESN'T MATTER CREATURE

FOCUS ON THIS GAME

AND DONT USE A BAD GAME ONE PLAYER HAD IN AN ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THEIR PLAY THIS GAME

THANK YOU, OKAY BAI

Implicitly, you're telling Math to play the same way. Aside from their efforts to talk to me, their insistence on solo wagoning isn't good and you know it.

Lmao I didn't read what Math was talking about, I'm skimming and I see a creature post and I see shade.

And implicitly is bullshit, you don't get to tell me what I'm actually doing when reality is crystal clear that I was dealing with Creature and creature only

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Eddddidieeee

[Ginngie]

WAIT FUCK YOU

Titus, are you actually going to sit here and push me for "buddying"

WHEN IN THE LAST GAME WE PLAYED TOGETHER I ENDED UP BUDDYING SCUM

HOLY SHIT

[Ginngie]

Also explain the QR one because I've literally spent a lot of time antagonizing her because of buddying fear

[Ginngie]

Yeah and you're double voting with them.

Great job Titus I'm really fucking proud of you

[Ginngie]

Titus. PTs will be open at nights

Take this leap of faith for one night and let me do about 5 years of talking st night.

[Ginngie]

vote dram

[Ginngie]

Do it for the vine

[Ginngie]

rn I feel like it was a D1 victory or a D1 huge defeat.

That is how literally every single day goes by congratulations

[Ginngie]

We are fucking dicks

Not only do we use 23 days!

We also make it a pain to determine who is the lynch

[Ginngie]

help

[Ginngie]

mastina

[Ginngie]

get

[Ginngie]

a

[Ginngie]

page

[Ginngie]

top

[Ginngie]

WE

[Ginngie]

ARE

[Ginngie]

ALMOST

[Ginngie]

TO

[Ginngie]

THE

[Ginngie]

NEXT

[Ginngie]

PAGE

[Ginngie]

TOP

[Ginngie]

YOUR

[Ginngie]

WELCOME

[Ginngie]

MASTINA

[Ginngie]

What I find hilarious

is that we out a guilty in the light

and the dark, votes for people in the dark

:^)

[Ginngie]

What the fuck

my OP's imagine broke :/

[Ginngie]

How about you stop dancing around the real issue and answer the question: Why are you scumreading each of those 5 people?

[Ginngie]

Never lynch: Titus, Math, Ginngie, texcat, dramonic

{Titus, Bran, A2, Math, texcat}
{Vedith, Creature, dramonic, BTD6_maker, Rauth}
{Aronis}
{Quantum, DrCirno, Gin}
{Bulbazak}

But I was only intending to post to notify that my head is V/LA. Ari will be doing any/all posting for a while.

[Ginngie]

sans a guilty tomorrow, stringing him up won't bother me a bit

[Ginngie]

tinfoil hat me was thinking during the night that you took the opportunity to lynch Eddie in the apathy in order to take out one of the better people at getting a read on you.

You could explain it more but like, you said you knew he was on vacation and like even went to go see him in person, but then punished him for it as well and going "oh yeah but I could post and you didn't"

lmao so it just hit me that, does that mentality come from scum; and now I have the idea that town is more likely have that little ego jump in their justification cuz the player is like "well Im sitting here as town putting in work through all this"

[Ginngie]

I was the one on vacation. He was at home.

Hmm.

I'm leaning town ego on that.

[Ginngie]

okay. so basically someone's decide to do a gambit and fake act like they have a guilty for the fun of it? cause that's what I'm getting out of this whole ordeal.

Who said it was fake?

[Ginngie]

Then why discredit him?

[Ginngie]

We both know that's bullshit and I'm biting into your shit sandwich

[Ginngie]

We both know that's bullshit and I'm NOT biting into your shit sandwich

EBWOP
(lmao)

[Ginngie]

Have you not explained why you scum read his town reads?

[Ginngie]

okay. so basically someone's decide to do a gambit and fake act like they have a guilty for the fun of it? cause that's what I'm getting out of this whole ordeal.

Who said it was fake?

Haven't been told.

Then it's bollocks that Titus tried to play off as real.

Also Vedith, why do you think it's fake?

[Ginngie]

TIL: Bulba is a salty bitch

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

I can't connect the dots in how you think it's fake

[Ginngie]

like hold my hand and walk me through how you came to that conclusion

[Ginngie]

hold my hand

Handholding is lewd
but um...
...
Would you want to hold my hand?

[Ginngie]

dram, that's a whole lot of posting that doesn't actually explain anything :3

[Ginngie]

yupp

Haven't read a single word

by you

that explains

a single read

you might want to get on that <3

[Ginngie]

Also why you choose to discredit bulba instead of talk things out would be nice, seems you ignored that question

[Ginngie]

So drams scum, that's nice to know

[Ginngie]

Like, one can not sit here and deflect any harder when trying to talk about reads lmao

[Ginngie]

Lmaooo

[Ginngie]

Yeah Titus, go remind him who is in the light, not like it's the OP

[Ginngie]

Yeah Titus, go remind him who is in the light, not like it's the OP

Fuck you, Ginngie!
It's hard, I'm busy!

Hey now, If I could take out the expletives then you can too

And lmao I'm literally pouring sulfuric acid >_>

[Ginngie]

Did you ever ask?

If so have a member of the dark confirm it

[Ginngie]

Why he has his reads

[Ginngie]

tbh tho
even though strongman is in the light
wouldn't really mind a dramonic lynch

Idk if QR is parroting off of what I said but like, you're scummier than a guilty right now

[Ginngie]

tbh tho
even though strongman is in the light
wouldn't really mind a dramonic lynch

Idk if QR is parroting off of what I said but like, you're scummier than a guilty right now

thanks for the shade
explain that

Lmao I said it in the PT first and then you say the same thing public

[Ginngie]

It's not shade if it's true

[Ginngie]

It's not shade if it's true

that's what makes it shade instead of straight lies
I opened the main thread first, didn't read your post until after I did that

Okay. I'm not going to argue it.

[Ginngie]

"Rolling eyes is a scum tell"

[Ginngie]

btw I'm a jailkeeper, claimed that in the light and jailed our homeboy Snarky, was the one that came up with there being a strongman

[Ginngie]

because I claimed in the light

[Ginngie]

scum already know, so everyone else gets to know as well

[Ginngie]

VOTE: BTD6

[Ginngie]

heavily leaning on BTD

my read here is that he's really just fence sitting, observing the chaos and every time he produces content, its about the leading wagon.

Like, CE wagon he talks about it, oh now Aronis is popular here's why, then texcat was popular.

He's also withholding his vote a lot. I mean, he voted in RVS, then unvoted and has never actually pushed anything.

In camn's revenge, he would directly fight and push scum reads and using his own reasoning.

What I'm seeing here is parroting and Information over Analysis.

Oh and the beetlejuicing.

I literally call him out for doing nothing, pops in the thread to make a comment about him doing nothing and then vanishes.

so conclusion, I have like, no actual reason to townread BTD off of his play.

[Ginngie]

Basically what happened is:

I started Dawn saying there was scum because my role, it was a strongman
then we argued a bit
then Titus claimed she should have stopped the kill or there was a strongman/roleblock on her.
I jailkept Snarky so we couldn't both be roleblocked, ergo strongman.

or Titus is scum trying to gain a towncred gambit.

Then creature said he was also involved with Snarky.


Titus said wanted to do the role cop guilty thing or whatever, she started it while I was at work.

Math hates it because of this stupid ethic thing of never wanting to lie and how it only hurts town but I shut them up giving proof that it has worked in camn's revenge and made a player scumslip in a fakeclaim

[Ginngie]

So you think that was the primary reason Kelvin was moved to the Light?

I thought about that last Night, it's all WIFOM making it NAI.

FKB is scum strongman, or FKB and Dr are both town and scum switched them to frame FKB and the strongman was already in the light.

So it's NAI because WIFOM.

Also Dr could be a Godfather who no longer would need protecting cuz strongman kills the cop. so scum switch to dark.

or two scum switching could also be a thing.

It is truly NAI and I will shoot down those that use it as reasoning because I just disproved it as a valid source for reads.

[Ginngie]

Cool. It was Titus. That's all I need to know. It means she's likely town here.

[Ginngie]

And this is where Nancy being gone is going to drive me crazy.

All I can tell you is to be patient cuz life really did kick her while she's down :/

I haven't heard from her in a couple days and we talk every night

[Ginngie]

Yeah, there is no way for you to not be frustrated her.

When she gets to feeling better again, then I or we am going to press on that issue of obv!town going to the light argument because that didn't make sense to me at all.

Almost like take logic, and reverse it and there's your answer.

So, really the only thing you can do is just wait and out, but I promise your concerns aren't going to be ignored.

[Ginngie]

Yee

[Ginngie]

basically what he's saying is, if I was strongman, there would be no need to mention it

Titus and Creature are the sus claims

That's according to creature's theory

[Ginngie]

hunting "the strongman" is semantic bullshit and just drop it to be honest.

The only thing that matters is we are lynching a light member and that's final.

Everything else is mechanical noise shrouded in WIFOM and no value so drop it.

[Ginngie]

QR do you townread BTD6 and why?

[Ginngie]

However, I don't want BTD6_Maker to stay another day doing absolutely nothing.

If that's the case, then help support the BTD6 wagon, doing so will encourage him to post.

[Ginngie]

QR do you townread BTD6 and why?

no. I've seen him in other games and the lurking is uncharacteristic

Alrighty, if you don't townread him, please join me on this wagon as it's already picking up traction and he's widely scum read. If you forget my reasons I can refresh you.

[Ginngie]

TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK!

[Ginngie]

heavily leaning on BTD

my read here is that he's really just fence sitting, observing the chaos and every time he produces content, its about the leading wagon.

Like, CE wagon he talks about it, oh now Aronis is popular here's why, then texcat was popular.

He's also withholding his vote a lot. I mean, he voted in RVS, then unvoted and has never actually pushed anything.

In camn's revenge, he would directly fight and push scum reads and using his own reasoning.

What I'm seeing here is parroting and Information over Analysis.

Oh and the beetlejuicing.

I literally call him out for doing nothing, pops in the thread to make a comment about him doing nothing and then vanishes.

so conclusion, I have like, no actual reason to townread BTD off of his play.

[Ginngie]

I AM SO IMPATIENT

[Ginngie]

also we desperately need a vote count

[Ginngie]

Hey Bulba, you say BTD may be scum, and I personally always have a bad taste because it's like a "hey its mah scum bud, but lets go after this town instead" kinda thing.

So if you could respond to my concerns over BTD, I'd be much more inclined to help you out with what you're trying to solve/push with Math.

[Ginngie]

I think I may still be tipsy slightly but scum could have factional abilities so there is no confirmed scum in light.

READ THE OP

[Ginngie]

an additional scum power they hold access to while in the Light.

IN THE LIGHT

IN

THE

LIGHT

IN

THE LIGHT

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FUCK SAKE

[Ginngie]

If you say some silly ass shit one more time I'm voting you.

There is nothing to argue about here. Just stop.

[Ginngie]

Why is Kelvin town? Heck, why are Rauth and Quantum townreads for you now? Last I checked, you had them both as scum. Also, explain Math. And given how adamant you were about my town list, why are CE and A2 scummy to you? A2 especially. Like, what the heck?

Kelvin is pretty

obvious

ly town
Check again, because I listed Rauth as town in my last readlist and I had not given a QR read until now.
Math is there because of the whole debacle today
I literally gave the mehscum explanation in my last-last post.

Man I shoulda actually posted that inb4 bulb bitches I considered.

I would love if you highlighted the obvious.

here ya go

I scum read your guts but I fucking laughed so hard

[Ginngie]

So, let's break down the BTD post he just made.

It was a purely defensive post talking really only about him.

The purpose of the post as it was first stated was to see which votes on him were scum driven. He chose one out of all of them to analyze and the easiest to argue against.

So, if he was analyzing for scum-driven votes, you would at least think if he thought Alisae's post/vote was hot garbage, that he would push that.

YET, there is still no vote by BTD. He still isn't pushing anything or really anyone. He is playing defensive and just waiting for someone else to fuck up.

This is also actually not ego related but another reason I find BTD scummy, he willfully ignores interactions in the PT, so you would assume he just isn't reading it; however, he was reading closely enough that he knew that Titus was faking a guilty and went along with it, confirming that he was actively lurking and avoiding interactions.

With that piece of information, I add on to the fact that he has been paying close enough attention that he would be able to see, and afford the time to address my scum read/reasoning on him at any given time but he ignores it. I personally think he's ignoring it because he knows it's a losing battle and if you ignore something, sometimes a player will forget about you for a shiny new bone.

[Ginngie]

Should have said, @college orientation, so uh, don't know if prod range or not

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