Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

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@mod: Can't post on hydra fsr

also ego
pedit: BTD6 got it

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Haven't read, letting Fire know that our hydra is still unable to post.

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Tywin trying to pin a nightkill on me of all people when scum did the same thing to me in a game we were both in is also a red flag

I don't even see the correlation of these two events.

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nosferatu head VLA until Monday :computer isn't working

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ughh

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Drixx has no gun.

he could still be terrorist

I am a gunsmith masonizer.

at this point, I 100% believe this.

Imo SK+second scum team makes gamma scum 100% of the time. Any scenario with 3 scum kills makes gamma scum 100% of the time.

well sk+bluescum means gamma literally has to be scum, but I doubt that rn

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That Ari replacement was towny af

how

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I suppose the entire town was only advocating against lynching rb specifically to lighten pressure on him.

Yup, vigs have zero purpose and aren't supposed to be killing overglorified policy lynches.

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It's n3 that has me concerned. I can plot out every missing kill with SK or second scum faction but n3.

Scum flipped roleblocker after all. It's possible that they roleblocked SK N3.

And they didn't block the "gunsmith" who they couldn't kill and had guiltied them the night before?

Davesaz visited Titus

Or they just plain tried to kill you

this doesn't follow then

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so drixx do you have any reads in this game other than the magic case you have on cerb (which i dont fault you for in the least, the slot has a vague scumminess to it)

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the mod (no offense) and drcirno both weren't talking near end of the day, so it's hard to tell what exactly prompted it tbh

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If PV flips town I suspect town lose anyway.

Why do you suspect this?

9 players
PV town
Night kill on town
7 players
Lynch on me - Town
Night kill 5 players
Lynch on Cerb - Poisoner
Night kill 3 players

MV then convinces the win for scum.

If PV is poisoner, then it doesn't matter.

I'm not exactly the most convincing person y'know

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also its just me now

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No, MV is worried that PV is actually poisoner. Because then it goes to 5p with them looking like scum.
Scum here want as many mis lynches as possible, so MV doesn't want the poisoner lynched.

I'm pretty highly unlikely groupscum tbh. Unless you're suggesting that I bused like 4 people this game?

Logic says Cerb, gut says you.
I think strongly enough that PV is not town here though.

Why Cerb over drixx?

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bused like 4 people and cross-bused like twice I think? Yeah me being poisoner makes more sense. Last mafia is in {Vedith, S&R} Poison is in {PV, Drixx}, which isn't that narrow but y'know.

pedit: when did we decide the poison targeting takes place?

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I'm pretty highly unlikely groupscum tbh. Unless you're suggesting that I bused like 4 people this game?

Are you telling me you wouldn't bus?
Does that mean I'm town for bussing scum too?

I generally don't but that's irrelevant.

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I generally don't but that's irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant. Your case to not being scum is that you voted scum.
Yes you think I'm scum while I voted scum. Both scum lynches since I joined the game I was on. I'm not sure about before hand with my other body, but that's the argument here, right?

It's the number of scum wagons that I've been on, and scum that have been on my wagon. So no that's not the argument.

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My comment on me busing being irrelevant is because I'm citing a meta reason while you're saying "would you bus" as in based on this gamestate. That's why I called that particular comment irrelevant.

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if poison happens the previous night, isn't it highly likely poison will kill at the end of the day?

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there's also the possibility that he fakeclaimed but that is more unlikely cause then he'd have to sign off on killing NF lol

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well if PV is scum I'd say there's no more scum.

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If PV is town:
Vedith is scum

If Drixx is not poisoner:
S&R is poisoner

4 people lynch pool with poison kill every other day makes a very narrow pool.

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drixx cant be the poisoner.

why?

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ok

i trust

i kinda sucked most of this game

my most active bit was after i stopped being right with my reads lol

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honestly if this is a town loss im tryharding the FUCK out of the next game I play

cause this was an ez win when titus conf'd like 4 people and 90% the scumteam was dead by like D4

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mb i dont keep a compendium of reasons why im not scum

i havent buddied shit

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vedith is the second person to accuse me of buddying, the first being the person he is currently accusing me of buddying, and neither him nor Titus have provided any post of mine where i show any attempt at buddying fucking anyone.

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quack

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i actually had zero reason to have any thoughts on nero

i cant even bullshit them

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i get the read being manufactured

on the real in our hydra pt i just listed him as one of the sus people i saw from skimming so i was looking for a post of his to justify that

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he basically hard defends ari up to the point that titus says that she tried to masonize him, and that makes him break his read on him.
more or less comes across like he believes titus has a guilty on him, so he votes there, but then when its explained that she doesnt he keeps it there anyway in spite of him saying that he would never lynch ari?
it just seems kind of weird to me, was wondering if i could get your take on it and ginn's reaction to vedith and whether you feel like that looks real.

it actually looks like a townie progression to me up until where he doesn't unvote.

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I only saw that Ari was a failed masonizer.

yeah but this was cleared up to you

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i get why you voted, why did you leave it there

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so you were under the impression that titus could target five people and those five people would be confirmed as town if they were town?

No, Titus had told me that she recruits town of flavour, not just VT.
Other people said she does 5. That means nothing to me coming from them.

town of flavour
ginngie said 5 specific flavours

i dont get why you didnt unvote with this knowledge

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Why would I unvote when someone says something different about someone else's role?

no body said anything different about someone else's role lol

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specific characters and no one else

only town with certain flavors.

please show me the difference here

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@Vedith

only town with certain flavors

town with certain flavors only

town with specific flavors only

town with specific characters only

town with specific characters and no one else

specific characters and no one else.

specific characters and no one else

???

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I read Titus as players with town flavour.
Ginggie is saying it only works on 5 people.

So that's different.

how did putting a number over it make you unable to unvote ari

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I read Titus as players with town flavour.
Ginggie is saying it only works on 5 people.

So that's different.

how did putting a number over it make you unable to unvote ari

Because it wasn't Ginngie's role. So why would i listen to her instead of Titus?

what the fuck was there to listen to

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I'm very confident on this being Scum Nos for the record.

I'm very confident on this being Scum for the record.

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didnt care

this i would get

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Nos is salty that i read him correctly.
I get it.

you're full of shit lmao

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unless anyone's got objections, I'm going to hammer. It doesn't look like anyone's that into this game right now.

also gork is nonexistent on that vc @mod

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So is my will to live but you don't see me complaining

It'll be fixed next count, as it stands he's not voting

2meirl4meirl

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I don't see why you'd hammer just a few hours before 4 people who have been noncommunicative get prodded.

I'm still waiting for Drixx to read and respond to what Gork and I had to say about Nos and Vedith, not to mention the fact that the *only* protown reason to hammer at this moment would be to keep apathy from increasing...unfortunately, that's not a concern, because it's basically already at maximum level.

No benefit, only downside.

alright lol

If your next post is a hammer, you get a Narna point redeemable for one free cigarette.

its illegal to purchase cigarettes at my age

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same

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you know i could've stolen that

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VOTE: vedith

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who did you rb last night?

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surely

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well did anyone figure out how vedith is probably not scum?

cause i didnt

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not chara's ISO is kind of townish.
you could probably start by casing him if hes so obvious to you.

hes scum because everyone else is town

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because scott would've spammed the fuck out of this game if he weren't

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gonna have to explain that one.
cause ive only ever seen him post a lot as town.

civ?

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i want to lynch scum and you're saying nah tho

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i can think of a reason why but like eh

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y so mad

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d10 - 7
d11 - 5
d12 - 3

{insomniacs, vedith, nos} is the pool

how's scum gonna finesse this

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sigh

alright let's get into this

you posted your dive in thread?

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d10 - 7
d11 - 5
d12 - 3

{

insomniacs

scott, vedith, nos} is the pool

how's scum gonna finesse this

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you're right its a fucking pain but whatever dude

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this wouldn't be nearly as painful if my slot wasn't treated like thin fucking air until d9 which is kinda demotivating if you cant imagine

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UNVOTE: vedith
while this is happening

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re:pros:

ia) We'll examine the doggo read here
689 -- votes doggo for post 101
692 -- moves vote off to nf
703 -- doggo is now town
there's zero explanation for this read shift, I lack the ability to know how you town read it.
ib) We'll examine the fury read here
692 -- moves vote off for self-vote and scumclaim
717 -- defends fury's ram vote
1276 -- fury is now town
zero justification for this read i can see. perhaps she thought ram v fury was a SvT?
ii) I don't find the tone of her scumhunting to be nervous in any way as well.
iii) she's not really pushing nero, she's riding doggo's flow here.
iv) I don't see the realish way chara uses meta against tywin. It seems like she only brings it up because he does. Perhaps you can elaborate.
v) Her Almost read fluctuates heavily, throughout his time alive. It didn't look like she's ever going to commit to a bus.
vi) She's mid argument with tywin before she just calls town!tywin and stops engaging him for the most part, aside from the whole autism debacle.
vii) I would say most of her "scumhunting" doesn't look forced but how do you feel about chara pressing for a dave to reveal himself following n1?

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i guess its probably either vedith or scott.
its possible that chara is just better than the average scum player.
vedith's interactions with me still feel kind of garbo and not really real.
i dont really have any reason to think scott is town and ive frankly felt like theres just an incredible lack of interest from him in this game from start to finish in a way that i never got an impression of in civ.
i dont really see nosScum and the only person pushing there is just vedith and hes also calling scott obvtown because ????.

insom probtown
drixx probtown
cerb probtown
like i guess we can just shoot from the hip and hope we win
but i would be upset if we lost this and i know smith is going to scream at me if i lazylose this.

I'm not saying scott is obv town. He's probtown. I'd say lynch vedith then scott.

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his disinterest is the reason I think he's probably town tbh

He's more comfortable as scum apparently, and I expect him to pay attention in such a game, unless he got demotivated by his team mates literally throwing it away. I also doubt scott makes these kills.

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cerb and drixx are off the table unless someone's suggesting that the ninja wasn't enough protection from the GS?

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im sorry, ninja+ascetic+traitor

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im sorry, ninja+ascetic+traitor

You pretending that you 'forgot' the other gs immune scumroles

bruh what the fuck is the point of that

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wha

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oh I misread 13816. I could see scum pretending to townslip since scum would know how many gs immune people they have.

I mean why would I know that off the top of my head lol

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if there's two scum left, honestly fuck this game

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oh ok so i guess we win then

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Also her succeeding in getting an ascetic to join neighborhood makes no sense.

even the mod knows lol

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was the lie-detect dependent on the absolute gamestate or the perceived gamestate from cerb's perspective?

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i guess the ninja was just a fuck you titus

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I was actually a compulsive n1 weak seraph knight

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its the only explanation!

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I never really had much of a chance to play this game. I was pretty much always about 50 pages behind.

This tends to happen with Large Themes with lots of posting. I could probably do much better within the hydra if it was a Mini or if people didn't make over 500 pages.

:'(
You tried

It was like that for me in gistou