Secret Hitler! (round two!) [7/7] (liberals win!)

[Tayl0r Swift]

ego, /in

[Tayl0r Swift]

/in again. this doubles the odds i get to be hitler, a dream i've had since childhood

[Tayl0r Swift]

basically for the first 3 days you play mechanically. 1-5, 2-6, 3-7. that way everyone gets into government which is both more fun and more info.

[Tayl0r Swift]

as long as you arent saying we're genetically superior...

[Tayl0r Swift]

nom RC

[Tayl0r Swift]

what cards did you get?

[Tayl0r Swift]

accidental lock becaus ei'm a bad moderator

but we already knew that

RC what am i doing differently?

[Tayl0r Swift]

It's not what you're doing it's what you're not doing but putting it into words would be difficult to do in any productive way

at this point i think theres not much gamesolvy stuff to do its just pure mech, thatll come later dont worry.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Ich bin ein Nazi! Heil der fuhrer!

Guys I'm saying very liberal things in german dw

:/

[Tayl0r Swift]

hence why i havent voted

[Tayl0r Swift]

you should tell us what card you discarded and what you passed along

[Tayl0r Swift]

can confirm. i was kinda surprised

[Tayl0r Swift]

for the record i passed 1-1, RC chose lib

[Tayl0r Swift]

i feel like thats information that i shouldnt reveal until after the shuffle, but i can be persuaded otherwise.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I'm assuming she's claiming 2f1l

Why wouldn't she force me to blue

i can see reasoning both ways for sure.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Umm

Just FTR you should absolutely have forced me to play a blue if you had the opportunity especially when I'm shading you before you play; who are they gonna believe if we conflict when I already said I thought you were scummy and you claim to have gotten two blues?

except i know your reputation and so an opportunity to freeze out a dangerous fascist should never be passed up. im a bit suspicious of your motives.

[Tayl0r Swift]

5-1 it is

what is 5-1?

[Tayl0r Swift]

so now i nominate who i think is most liberal?

this time we should wait, slow things down, and discuss. but probably yes

[Tayl0r Swift]

So let's be clear on this

From tables pov all of 123567 have played blues

That means that at least 2 fascists have chosen to allow blue policies to play

If 4 is liberal which is very unlikely that means 3 fascists have played blue

this suggests that 4 is fascist but not hitler, yes? and my guess would be you are fascist

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why would that be your guess when I was in a perfect situation to conflict you and chose not to do so?

because i know youre good at this, and also sneaky and manipulative.

[Tayl0r Swift]

regardless, i think the play is to nein this election

[Tayl0r Swift]

Sneaky and manipulative enough to not take a clear correct play? But ok I will not play 62 then.

youre the one who thinks that thats the best play, and also the one who thinks we share an alignment.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Why would that be your guess when I was in a perfect situation to conflict you and chose not to do so?

because i know youre good at this, and also sneaky and manipulative.

So you think he is wrong about the three groups that have gone being more likely to have been from the same teams?

no that sounds right, im just a bit paranoid about RC i suppose. expect the unexpected, right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

RC has had reason to believe we are the same alignment ever since we got a liberal card passed, yet RC has also been shading me from game start and hasnt let up.

[Tayl0r Swift]

doesnt matter vote nein

[Tayl0r Swift]

See but taylor you have been throwing shade at RC as well as trying to say that he is right about the groups being on the same team.

I think it is important that we ja this

except i didnt know the thing about blue cards usually coming from same alignment, so i didnt know not to shade him. ive backed off a bit and am mostly now playing defense.

[Tayl0r Swift]

See but taylor you have been throwing shade at RC as well as trying to say that he is right about the groups being on the same team.

I think it is important that we ja this

why should we ja this? 4 is probably fasc. now i think you are too. and i think you arent hitler

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think there are two scenarios where blue cards are passed: both players are the same alignment (especially both blue) or one player is hitler, who has to blend in.

[Tayl0r Swift]

There have been 3 FFL that have gone by that means there are 3-5 and that if RC is lib then there is a good chance that he would pass the lib so why dont you want to test it

not true. 2 of them we just know two of the cards. there are at most 3 lib cards but probably fewer.

[Tayl0r Swift]

personally i think dsj is fasc as ive stated.

[Tayl0r Swift]

shiki and dsj are fasc. like 90%. the third fasc is probably in there too. everyone better have a good reason for voting ja.

[Tayl0r Swift]

three fascist cards

Can confirm

uhhh what?

[Tayl0r Swift]

yep voting nein again. ill ja 62 or 63, but i think 62 is the play and then we can 73. keep the governments the same when possible right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Taylor/Ari/Radcow alliance.

I have dreamed of this moment

yeah youve dreamed of being in an alliance with me? ive been on this site for like a week and havent played with you at all...

[Tayl0r Swift]

so my bet is shiki dsj and grumpy for fascists.

[Tayl0r Swift]

6-2. 7-3. 1-5.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Well if I played that hand and got three fascist cards it wouldn't do us much good now would it.

well id be more inclined to believe it was FFF from you. well actually not really cuz i think youre fasc too, but back then i didnt know.

[Tayl0r Swift]

why does that have anything to do with 6-2?

[Tayl0r Swift]

nein it

[Tayl0r Swift]

yep that kind of reasoning makes it easy for fasc to blend in. more fascpoints to you.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yes we get to invest if we pass fasc.

[Tayl0r Swift]

by we i mean RC

[Tayl0r Swift]

apparently im not as charming as RC. i asked datisi to pass the liberal policy, but there wasnt a liberal policy and he didnt do it.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah i had 2

[Tayl0r Swift]

not worth investigating 4, near guaranteed, just freeze 4 out

[Tayl0r Swift]

invest 1 or 5 imo

[Tayl0r Swift]

Go ahead and investigate 2

yeah this is fasc, so invest 1 and then the solve is 145

[Tayl0r Swift]

Sigh TS and RC walking all over us this game

this isnt a scumslip but just a resignation?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Go ahead and investigate 2

Sigh TS and RC walking all over us this game

They are literally a fascist group and they literally announced that there was a group that was all fasisct and I wouldn't be surprised if 4 ends up being hitler

He pushes me to investigate someone and then preemptively starts shading an investigate that I haven't made ???

is fasc. dsj is pure pure fasc

[Tayl0r Swift]

the most likely scenario is actually that the presidents discarded blue right? so maybe its 134 or 135? 5 for sure so maybe 135 or 345

[Tayl0r Swift]

i have this nagging fear that RC is fasc, but its pretty unlikely, i guess im willing to risk it at this point. i also feel like fasc RC would give a lib invest on fasc dsj.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yep thats good. ja this

[Tayl0r Swift]

But you literally shaded me before even getting my role you were going to call me fascist and I think it is blatantly clear that you two are working together

shouldnt liberals be working together? i dont see the issue. we are being transparent and pro-lib

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think RC shouldnt be chancellor, but i still think hes lib.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yes but i trust you to be pres. if youre fasc youre hitler but theres a small chance of that.

[Tayl0r Swift]

id probably nom RC since alduk and ari are term limited

[Tayl0r Swift]

we could also SE RC and then nom me. id kinda prefer that, but idrc. i think those are the two choices.

[Tayl0r Swift]

shouldn't there have been at least one blue left, and that's accounting for one other pair lying,

we shuffled. i think the remaining cards are shuffled prior to dealing anything. so the leftovers are in random places in the new deck.

@datisi, is that right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I understand but also want the nom.

you cant be nommed, youre term limited.

[Tayl0r Swift]

its possible, but those being shelved would have to make some pro-lib arguments to convince anyone

[Tayl0r Swift]

im ok with that. im pretty confident RC is lib, but i am somewhat scared of getting burned.

[Tayl0r Swift]

quiet, 5

[Tayl0r Swift]

i still think we should keep him out of gov't, as well as dsjstr

who is this him?

[Tayl0r Swift]

unless it was a distancing play.

[Tayl0r Swift]

shiki why shouldnt RC be in government>

[Tayl0r Swift]

shiki why shouldnt RC be in government>

at least one side of investigation confirmed fascist, could be either one of them or both, but at least one confirmed from result, so safer to prevent all instances

who should i nom then shiki?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Whatever, let's do it

what do you want us to do?

[Tayl0r Swift]

nom grumpy cat

[Tayl0r Swift]

shiki why shouldnt RC be in government>

at least one side of investigation confirmed fascist, could be either one of them or both, but at least one confirmed from result, so safer to prevent all instances

who should i nom then shiki?

Whatever, let's do it

what do you want us to do?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i was reconfirming who was term limited, i'd say me,

why you, fmpov?

[Tayl0r Swift]

at this point once we have 3 confirmed non-hitler chancellors, we rotate through those three.

[Tayl0r Swift]

RC who do you think i nom?

[Tayl0r Swift]

anyone opposed to me nomming RC?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i kinda think i wanna nom dsj, because im confident dsj is non-hitler and i can prolly force blue

[Tayl0r Swift]

i kinda think i wanna nom dsj, because im confident dsj is non-hitler and i can prolly force blue

[Tayl0r Swift]

i kinda think i wanna nom dsj, because im confident dsj is non-hitler and i can prolly force blue

[Tayl0r Swift]

i kinda think i wanna nom dsj, because im confident dsj is non-hitler and i can prolly force blue

[Tayl0r Swift]

wow sorry weird hiccup. anyway

nom rc

[Tayl0r Swift]

well because dsjs play is obvfasc, which means unlikely to be hitler.

[Tayl0r Swift]

but i didnt. i went with the safe but scary play

[Tayl0r Swift]

so liberals should vote yay because i voted yay.

[Tayl0r Swift]

RC got RB again

[Tayl0r Swift]

Okay

So there's only two actual reasonable options here

They are TD TD 26 and TD 62 2x

ok im lost on this one

[Tayl0r Swift]

we nein then i nom 3 or 7, then we nein until RC

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah if RC was fasc it was as hitler. RC is lib for sure. dsj is fasc for sure. i think im basically mechanically confirmed too, but i guess i could be hitler or dumb or very sneaky.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im pretty comfy nomming 3 or 7. we nein this no matter what. odds are the next policy is fasc guaranteed though, unless 3 is fasc and lied. then theres hope. i guess its safer to nom 7

[Tayl0r Swift]

we cant TD to 62, we are starting from 1 now cuz SE

[Tayl0r Swift]

oh yeah youre right, i think safest is to nom 3

[Tayl0r Swift]

id rather just nom 3. its pretty safe, i feel confident in our solve here.

[Tayl0r Swift]

nom ari

[Tayl0r Swift]

thats a nice boulder!

[Tayl0r Swift]

gg

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah that was fun thanks datisi and everyone

[Tayl0r Swift]

same to you

[Tayl0r Swift]

we figured it out and townblocd pretty hard though, great success overall

[Tayl0r Swift]

i was pretty confident in the 145 solve but it seemed too easy so i freaked out even more that it was RC setting it up to seem easy and then hitler is chancellor

[Tayl0r Swift]

as town i only had to fear your scum rep right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

as town i only had to fear your scum rep right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

well i did but then you started pushing on me, and after i townled in the last game somewhat the push seemed a bit opportunistic and vague.