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Post #137 (isolation #6) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:15 am
Postby Kent and Sain »
These are for not hammering while being online correct? I unfortunately did not think my cohort was on, who I would preferred to take the action of hammering between the two of us.
-Kent
In post 183, the worst wrote:I didn't know your reputation nor realise it was a NM hydra
also I kinda love NM
the main mistake was joining a jester game ó.ò
I’m stealing that face ò.ó
My sincerest apologies. I let myself go a little bit there.
-Kent
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Post #224 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:21 am
Postby Kent and Sain »
In post 222, theslimer3 wrote:We seem a bit decisive. Are we waiting till day 4 to lynch scum or doing it now?
Put it to a vote. This isnt an alignment indicative thing, this is just to make us all try to be on the same page.
I VOTE: Find scum
Itd be boring otherwise
My opinion is that it is wiser to avoid the jester but lynching obvious town isn't the first course of action we should take given multiple options. The best course of action, I believe, is to lynch those with low chance of being jester and high chance of being scum.
-Kent
theslimer3*
Nancy Drew 39
Bambietta Basterbine
Michael Scott
ceejayvinoya
Suka*
Kent and Sain (Gamma Emerald + Flavor Leaf)
the worst
We kill Nancy Drew 39 and theslimer3 (obvtown) today and tomorrow; then go for TW and K&S in that order.
Everyone cool with this?
VOTE: Nancy Drew 39
This also pushes him to not have any blame no matter what as there are multiple lynch paths that can sprout from this, and if people flip town, it doesn’t look bad on him. This actually makes it less likely that nancyor slimer are his scum partner, though.
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Post #298 (isolation #20) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:53 am
Postby Kent and Sain »
In post 254, Michael Scott wrote:Haha Nancy spotted it before I did.
"Political reads" and forgets that N_M already flipped town, scum could fake that slip though.
The blame thing makes no sense -- I'm accountable for my reads, obviously. How would giving a reads list absolve me of blame?
I'll be fine to eat up the Lynch as a VT -- Nancy next because she's obwtown, then if TW survives kill him.
~Jimothy
Wildly distracting from the point. Your read list is irrelevant. The fact you're aiming towards townreads absolves you from guilt because that was your goal the entire time. Given that it's a nightless setup having obvtown hurts the scum a lot more than a game with nightkills.
NM flipped scum but you could totally fake that too. And while I don't really see the reads as political the way you're acting on them is 100% political.
-Kent
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Post #300 (isolation #21) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:55 am
Postby Kent and Sain »
In post 297, Michael Scott wrote:And what do you two think of 294? If I'm not jester and you think I'm scum, and do lynch me today, are you fine going ahead with the plan outlined there?
Why/why not?
~Jimothy
I am opposed to lynching obvtown as described above.
-Kent
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In post 266, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Michael is unlikely to be jester but has a much greater likelihood of flipping scum. Hence, you’re an optimal vote here.
What makes you think I'm scum?
~Jimothy
Nancy, if you think I'm scum for following a strategy, convince me that the strategy sux. If you agree with the strategy, you should be okay getting lynched. It's not against win con as VT to get lynched and prevent a jester lynch.
I'm not Jester, I'd be a lot more political and obvtowny -- Kent&Sain saying I look political is funny.
I'm not scum, because I'm okay with a lynch on me. Scum wouldn't, considering one of them's already out.
In post 284, the worst wrote:their wagon on you sux and is antagonistic tho I'm pretty sure that's the kind of thing jesters do here so they get lynched d3
Lol. Okay, the wagon sux -- who should we lunch today?
I think if the worst is saying your vote sucks he wants to vote you.
-Kent
So this is actually what disturbs me the most about Michael Scott. Why didn't they get one before now? This is probably angleshooting but I think this indicates they are scum.
-Kent
In post 286, Michael Scott wrote:And if you think it sux, either you don't think Nancy is obvtown, or you don't think we should lunch an obtown -- which is it?
~Jimothy
this is a clear misrepresentation, read my conversation with Nancy. I was saying that the way you pushed her was gross, and was not saying either of those things.
Cool, we're on the same team then. We BOTH don't want to lynch the Jester; therefore:
1. Lynch Nancy today; (Obvtown and I'm scum anyway, no?)
2. Lynch someone else obvtown tomorrow; (theslimer3 preferably)
3. Deal with me in D4.
If town thinks I'm
jester
,
1. Lynch Nancy today; (Obvtown and she's not me)
2. Lynch someone else obvtown tomorrow; (theslimer3 preferably)
3. I die D4, scumhunt then.
Regardless
of what you think my alignment is, optimal strategy here is to lynch obvtown -- so if Nancy isn't obvtown, state it, else vote for her.
Town and scum are not the same team. This is a gross appeal.
-Kent
In post 298, Kent and Sain wrote:NM flipped scum but you could totally fake that too. And while I don't really see the reads as political the way you're acting on them is 100% political.
How on earth is that "political", when it's so blatant and apparently NO ONE is reacting to it positively, YET I keep pushing it? You do know what "political" means, right?
~Jimothy
It's designed to make you look as good as possible. How people react to a political play does not discredit the fact it was in fact political. You continuing to argue it is because you ditching it would validate the accusations towards you.
-Kent
In post 297, Michael Scott wrote:And what do you two think of 294? If I'm not jester and you think I'm scum, and do lynch me today, are you fine going ahead with the plan outlined there?
Why/why not?
~Jimothy
I am opposed to lynching obvtown as described above.
-Kent
So you want to lynch someone who looks scummy - which means a good chance of hitting the Jester, instead of letting that resolve itself after a couple lynches. Hurray. Way to let the Jester win.
~Jimothy
Already stated your playstyle isn't one I'd expect Jester to take.
-Kent
So this is actually what disturbs me the most about Michael Scott. Why didn't they get one before now? This is probably angleshooting but I think this indicates they are scum.
-Kent
Because we had Discord, and my other head wasn't responding there, and this was a more comfortable medium.
Does that answer satisfy you?
Also, you want to lynch scummy non-Jester people, right? So your vote should be on me, no?
In post 1, Auro wrote:Well hello there Date Mike!
Jingle, keep hosting Jester games, I love them xD
Anyway, wanted to note here that I'm actually suspecting Nancy of being scum -- she was conspicuously off the Yes Mafia wagon, and seems to abhor the idea of being lynched as an "obvtown".
TW seems like the Jester, Kent&Sain are prolly town because of their slip.
In post 2, volxen wrote:Yeah TW is definitely not a good lynch, I think there is a high likelihood of him being either scum or jester.
Interesting theory about Nancy. You've been advocating for lynching obvtown in the thread -- aside from our own slot, who else would you be comfortable lynching today?
I think the challenge here is distinguishing scum from jester. Are there certain players that you could see as either being town or scum, but definitely NOT jester? I think in terms of reads, that's the most important thing at the moment -- identifying players who are definitely not the jester. This is my first time playing this type of game mode, so I'm not really sure what strategy the jester will be applying here. At the most basic level, there is the assumption that the jester would want to get heavily scumread to help them get lynched, but then again the jester might anticipate this, and actually try to town it up to throw everyone off (especially since, as you suggested yourself, lynching obvtown is actually a really good strategy in this game, especially since half of the scumteam has been eliminated). So it's very possible that the jester is among the "obvtown" players as opposed to the more null or scummy players.
So who do you think is
legitimate
"obvtown" in this game, or at least "obvnotjester"? Those are the players that we need to identify.
In post 3, volxen wrote:Should we test your Nancy theory by trying to hard push for her lynch today? If Nancy is scum and we get lynched today, she might be able to avoid a lynch on day 3 by continuing to establish herself as "obvtown" and making the argument that the group should lynch someone who is "obvnotjester" yet also "not obvtown" (her reasoning for lynching us today as opposed to herself).
So if Nancy is scum, if she takes us out today, she just has to avoid that "obvtown" lynch on day 3. Then on day 4 the jester suicides, and at that point the game reverts back to the normal "lynch the scummiest player" routine, and she can just coast on her "obvtown" status and win the game.
So the point is, if Nancy is scum and we get lynched today, that is going to seriously jeopardize our chances of winning this game, as I don't know that we can trust this group to "follow our wishes" and auto lynch Nancy on day 3. All she really has to do as scum on day 3 is convince the group that lynching the most obvtown player is a bad strategy, and identify a player that is "obvnotjester" but also "not obvtown" and push for that players lynch (as she is doing to us right now).
I don't think we should advocate for our own lynch today, I think we need to stay in the game longer.
In post 6, Auro wrote:Nancy's convinced we're not jester because we were aggressively pushing her wagon -- it's unexpected for a jester to campaign for two other lynches on successive days, so I can see where she's coming from. The biggest reason I'm scumreading Nancy is because of her push against lynching her, and the lack of vote in D1.
It's actually fine if we get lynched as long as town follows our plan afterwards -- something I'll personally iron out with the rest of the slots in case we do. Our ending post would be "KILL NANCY, TRUST US" in caps. If she fights it too much in D3, that makes her more scumspect.
My reads list I posted are my actual thoughts, save Nancy's green. What do you think? What do you make of my last two posts?
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Post #481 (isolation #38) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:40 pm
Postby Kent and Sain »
So despite feeling they aren’t fake you disagree they are town?
Sounds like someone locked themselves into an unfortunate tunnel. If the game doesn’t end with Michael Scott’s death you’re probably the next person I want dead.
-Kent
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Post #487 (isolation #40) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:51 pm
Postby Kent and Sain »
A perspective slip isn’t modkill-worthy. It means you posted something that obviously comes from a non-town perspective. Despite not disagreeing with the statement that those were likely not faked, it wasn’t immediately evident to you that those posts were town-written. That pretty much only comes from scum who are stuck riding their fake reads into the ground.
-Kent
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Post #600 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:59 am
Postby Kent and Sain »
Man, I know I’ve only been lynched like once in the past year...maybe twice, but damn, I haven’t done anything this game, and I’m still not getting wagoned.
When i actually roll Jester one day, I’m flat out gonna lose.
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Post #601 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:01 am
Postby Kent and Sain »
Once in Team Mafia earlier this year, Magical Stories, I was the last scum who got to like last 4-5 players out of A LOT. Crazy game, so meh. Fun game, though.
And then ai got lynched as town in a Day 5 large, in lylo after a direct 1v2 against the remaining scum.
So tell me, what’s a guy gotta do to get lynched around here.