Micro 837: Joint Operation Mafia (End game)

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5.5, a perfect average if you rolled for it

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@Mod Are mafia required to submit their kill in their pt that they both share, or can they message you during the night?

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and the scum are rivals?
yikers
at least they don't have to worry about association i guess

Not true

There is association tells in this game - scum do know who each other are after all, they have to lynch each other or the game ends in a draw

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Reaction testing = Diplomatic immunity

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Going to chime in and say I was of the opinion that both scum shared the same pt

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Also going to say that the role pm is indeed confusing as it introduces the opposing mafia and then goes on to give access to the pt in the same sentence, so the use of the term "your own pt" is unclear

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@Mod Are mafia required to submit their kill in their pt that they both share, or can they message you during the night?

This game is nightless therefore no such kill exists

I literally forgot about this and assumed the game was a prisoner's dilemma of the two scum not cross shooting each other because that means town wins, or something dumb like that, and was fully prepared to treat this game like a living meme

@Mod Are mafia required to submit their kill in their pt that they both share, or can they message you during the night?

This game is nightless therefore no such kill exists

I literally forgot about this and assumed the game was a prisoner's dilemma of the two scum not cross shooting each other because that means town wins, or something dumb like that, and was fully prepared to treat this game like a living meme

yeah this was the assumption i made and was so hyped for it
but this is perfectly fine too

Do these posts mean anything then?

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I don't think that's a good reason to vote profii

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VOTE: YyottaCat

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Why is Yyotta town to you?

Just finished a newbie and she was a frozen wolf. Don't think she doubles down on her vote of me here.

She's frozen here...

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Why Profii?

Weird question to be asking others since you're the one who put him in hammer range

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'Appearing on a lot of wagons' isn't a good reason to scumread someone anyway

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I don't understand how voting for a lot of people can be scummy when you've got no team to protect and the only person you don't want lynched is yourself as scum (and town don't want to be lynched either, usually)

That's why saying somebody is voting a lot of people doesn't mean anything, there's no power roles either, trying to lynch someone isn't scummy

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VOTE: Elbirn

Good a place as any to vote

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VOTE: profii

bye

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Mafia have to reach out to lynch me because there's no nks

I voted out profii because his push on me was awful when I iso'd after Cheeky voted

Now I'm willing to do the same with Elbirn

VOTE: Elbirn

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@Mod Are mafia required to submit their kill in their pt that they both share, or can they message you during the night?

This game is nightless therefore no such kill exists

I literally forgot about this and assumed the game was a prisoner's dilemma of the two scum not cross shooting each other because that means town wins, or something dumb like that, and was fully prepared to treat this game like a living meme

Feigning ignorance of game mechanics in an attempt to town slip yada yada

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It is not hard to predict that proffii got my attention.
UNVOTE:

happy cakeday, vote free day for profii

Yyottacat continues to be as frozen as Cheeky said they weren't being

Look at these posts too

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"people pushing me are scum"

1 for 1 so far

Notice how cheeky is clearly town even though she's pushing me

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I don't think scum push each other at the first lynch at all

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- As scum I would feel pressured to look good or at least deter scrutiny by being on a correct wagon.

That's not a thing in this game

You don't win the game by looking cool for having caught a scum, scum know who each other are but aren't allied

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My townreads are Cheeky/Wisdom/Penguin Power, I'm not seeing Dark as lock town

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VOTE: DarkLightA

Don't mind lynching every idiot here, we've got plenty

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VOTE: Elbirn

DarkLight the rest of your reads are all good just lynch anyone else

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Good work, 1 less person to deal with

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Elbirn nobody listens to dead players anyway this is MS

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Good work YyottaCat

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VOTE: DarkLightA

Brute force I guess

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UNVOTE:

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Saying his reads suck because we've lynched 2 town out of 8 people instead of lynching the last scum instantly is a mistake in perception you guys have in this game, it's not a standard game where it's 3 mafia vs 10 town, there's no reason for mafia to be pushing other peoples lynches, t heir primary goal is to make sure they themself isn't lynched

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Don't act like we wouldn't be lynching elbirn and yyottacat if they were still alive and we mislynched 2 other people

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VOTE: Clemency

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there's no reason for mafia to be pushing other peoples lynches, t heir primary goal is to make sure they themself isn't lynched

You mean like this?

VOTE: DarkLightA

Don't mind lynching every idiot here, we've got plenty

VOTE: Elbirn

DarkLight the rest of your reads are all good just lynch anyone else

Looks like I'm pushing lynches to me

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I didn't realize town don't care about living in this setup

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Once again, scum don't need to be going hard scoring mislynches here, they just need to not be lynched themself

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I've already explained my read on DLA and I never said I scumread penguin

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What happens if we reach deadline?

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VOTE: Clemency

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If you haven't noticed, Wisdom isn't "being lynched" since DLA and I both townread him, and he's not voting himself

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riiight, deadline, it's right around the corner [lie]

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Why does scum me want Wisdom lynched and not PenguinPower....?

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he's been suspected by people we've lynched.

If we cared about what they had to say we wouldn't have lynched them

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So can we go over why people are voting wisdom again

"resistance to my ideal wagons" isn't a real reason to lynch somebody when there's 1 scum alive...?

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I want Wisdom to die for his resistance to my ideal wagons.

Like, this isn't a real reason

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let's compromise on clemency

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You're voting Wisdom when the argument for voting him is "He won't let me lynch other people that I want to lynch"

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I want Wisdom to die for his resistance to my ideal wagons.

Like, this isn't a real reason

No it's not but lynching you or DLA will be easier with him out the way. I will move to DLA if others want to vote there too. If I'm wrong I'll stop annoying everyone.

Alternatively some reasoning apart from my own would be nice.

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I know that's why you want to lynch him Dunn.

There's only 1 scum, if you think it's me why are you voting Wisdom anyway

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Didn't you say you weren't going to follow that lynch path if wisdom flipped town?

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Yeah why?

You're acting like you're still going to follow that lynch path

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VOTE: PenguinPower

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How about you guys vote clemency instead of me so we can win the game

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VOTE: clemency

No bamboozle

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Alright, I was wrong on clemency, I'm a little worried now

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I remember thinking Penguin looked kind of town earlier

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I know, I don't know what I'm going to do, I see reasons to townread everybody. I think I'm going to bank on Cheeky being town, not sure where I want to go from there

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VOTE: PenguinPower

Going with this because I don't scumread the vote changes from DLA

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hmm

VOTE: Wisdom

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I really don't think it's cheekyteeky

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OK, back to thinking for me

What I expected you to do today was switch to scumreading me and you and DLA getting me to 2 votes first, then voting out Cheeky the next day (or as a backup plan, just having cheeky decide between the two of you

Obviously things aren't playing out that way. Or maybe you're still banking on Cheeky picking between us

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: DLA

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Not sure why you weren't saying anything if you were here, but ok

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It could be that he thinks that I won't vote him if he townreads me all game

I'm having trouble seeing you as not town here, but I've never played with you before. I think It's likely I just underestimated Wisdom's scum game

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Waiting to see what Wisdom thinks

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I don't feel bad about this vote if Cheeky is town because we would have lost anyway. Let's hope that she's just good at scum and not derping hard

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Also DLA said not to lynch Wisdom so there's that

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This was fucking horrible to witness

As if you played any better

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You were only voting wisdom so you could lynch me easier, according to what you said

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I want Wisdom to die for his resistance to my ideal wagons.

Like, this isn't a real reason

No it's not but lynching you or DLA will be easier with him out the way. I will move to DLA if others want to vote there too. If I'm wrong I'll stop annoying everyone.

Alternatively some reasoning apart from my own would be nice.

You guys can blame other people all you want, but as far as I can tell you were only voting Wisdom for superficial reasons, make a case next time, anybody. Yet Cheeky has the gall to say I'm sheeping people when penguin/clemency couldn't care less who was lynched that day and were just following cheeky themselves

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Yeah, because you were rightly dead for your awful gameplay. Here's what you spouted off before you died:

I can talk until I'm flipped right?

Because I dont think wisdom is ever scum here

So don't act high and mighty in the post game