Micro 897 [Game Over]

[Wooper]

VOTE: rooroo
this is the d1 lynch and I WILL have my first wagon slot

[Wooper]

Don Draper x Mistress (Auro + Nancy Drew 39)

I'd rather dayvig myself than wagon this sod1

[Wooper]

VOTE: rooroo

Biggest mood

VOTE: Dr Drew

[Wooper]

mine is 6910169. I'm sorry.

[Wooper]

Nsg did it for Halloween

[Wooper]

IDK if this is town indicative or not Bungle but I am very excited for it.

[Wooper]

Ikr. They'll never see our plan coming.

[Wooper]

VOTE: DDxM

[Wooper]

VOTE: DDM

[Wooper]

not yet.

[Wooper]

fuckfuckfuck I missed one

prodge

the above does look like jesterposting

[Wooper]

Spoiler: only rooroo is allowed to open this. if anyone else opens this they should feel very bad. >:c

hey you! you've wanted to be a jester ever since you were a tiny shoe kitten and you're finally there - congratulations

so myself and my super evil mystery scumbuddy will be lynching DDxM today because it looks like the towny thing to do. they've slipped non-jester. I think going by meta they're more than likely town but far more importantly lynching them today doesn't end the game.

Obv I refused to explain my read on them bc I needed them to continue to act survivalistically without necessarily knowing that was what I was after

so if you cld lolhammer them at will you will be helping our super spooky evil cause

thank you!

pedit: oh lol

[Wooper]

I don't have another strong not-jester read yet. If Bungle wasn't so self-aware I'd suggest wagoning Bungle but I got kinda excited when I realised DDxM wanted to live

[Wooper]

Bingle, so your strategy is to keep lynching every player with low jester equity until day 4?

this is the ellibereth endorsed strategy

[Wooper]

doctor drew x mistress was

town

they may no longer post.

It is now day2

With 8 alive it is 5 to lynch

Deadline is:

(expired on 2019-11-09 18:00:00)
Not the first time I have been mistaken for her.

I will be honest, didn't love the wagon.....but their responses to it I also didn't love it.

I won't be around too much until tomorrow though.

this post and op will be updated with a final eod vc and other eod things tomorrow night

this is some fucking bbcode wizardry how the fuck did you pull this off

[Wooper]

VOTE: eth0s

[Wooper]

I was going to post a readlist then realised that's probably not optimal :{

[Wooper]

rooroo - the cat dances in the sink
Doctor Drew - the sparrow flies north for winter
Bingle - what's the best way to the cinema?
Blatant Scum - you could walk, it's not far
Wooper - great! I need the exercise.
ofrhz - the red fox trots quietly
BBmolla - bring snacks to susan's on thursday
eth0s - okay, I'll bring chocolate

[Wooper]

I'm not convinced on Drew Bungle. He always sounds scummy and I'm not convinced he's not self aware enough to not know how scummy he sounds here.

[Wooper]

VOTE: Drew don't think my eth0s vote was going to do anything after this page anyway. Trust in Bungle ig.

Agree re ruru.

[Wooper]

This will be a town win by pg15

[Wooper]

/o/ I trust in my ability to lategame towntell.
https://forum.mafia451.com/t/skys-jeste ... -over/1061
How would you feel if I told you ruru was in this game Bungle? (if you don't have time to read up, I'll give you cliffnotes)

[Wooper]

o valid
less fancy: after NM's performance in that game I don't trust her not to lolclaim jester and pray for a quick lynch early-game

She should be policy lynched d4 but not before then

[Wooper]

yeeeeah exactly
that's exactly reason I think both {you,ruru} should be dead by endgame but not pre-jester death

[Wooper]

D1: DDxM => 8p
D2: drew => 7p
D3: Blatant Scum => 5p (jester death)
D4-D5: 5 of : ruru, bungle, wooper, ofrhz, bbm, eth0s
(think bbm is highest jester equity aorn)

should be pretty easy to work out

[Wooper]

Eh, I feel I’m fairly obviously not_mafia at this point, but that’ll only matter if we hit 5p lylo, tbh.

mind blown

[Wooper]

on ruru: you can count how many fucks she gives rn on two hands and wooper doesn't even have any hands.

she would be aware this is the technically-optimal mafia play, and aware that bare minimum {you, me} are aware of that.

[Wooper]

Why can't we just lynch among the claimed jesters? One of them is lying and therefore scum.

the above does sound like jesterposting...

[Wooper]

Ethos is actually the highest jester equity of the remaining 6. Vote hoppy and proactive is exactly what I’d expect from jester there. Bb would be slightly more likely to lurk.

how familiar is eth0s with the setup? i thought he was self aware not to do transparently scummy things.

[Wooper]

If you want mind blown, best scum strat is probably hard bussing at 3rd lynch.

you down for this?

[Wooper]

[Wooper]

Low experience, high reasoning expectation.

was my impression

[Wooper]

technically yes
optically no
this setup is a mess

[Wooper]

...

[Wooper]

in a strong arming way that a jester wouldn't

why not?

[Wooper]

i don't regret trying to wagon eth0s

[Wooper]

i don't regret trying to wagon eth0s

then play your own game and vote me, stop making excuses

the tells i'd be looking for were literally discussed itt gtfo

[Wooper]

Bingle's current playstyle is how I would be playing jester.

^^^^ i'd defs lead town as a jester, drc if it's off a cliff or into victory
for someone with a lot of experience i think trying to steer the game and look OPTICALLY TOWNY while systematically alienating people is a really clever play

regardless: don't touch bungle til d4+.

[Wooper]

VOTE: Drew

[Wooper]

i don't have a read on you yet forzh help[

[Wooper]

Okay someone who isnt bingle but has a decent grasp on his meta/playstyle,

Am I paranoid or did he do something in recent posts that suggests he could be like a deep wolf jester? I still dont buy his play this game as being jester indicative but something pinged me the wrong way because I think it supports a viewpoint implied by someone else earlier.

i don't think that's being paranoid at all. don't lynch bungle until the jester is gone.

[Wooper]

That was a quality understated hammer.

Think this flips town, firmly not jester.

[Wooper]

yes

[Wooper]

VOTE: BS
after this I'll reread and find the scums.

still p sure bbm is jester.

[Wooper]

rooroo - tbh I think is self aware enough to act this scummy as jester; she is playing optimal maf strat tho so s/j

Bingle - is hardcore pushing optimal town strat but in a way that systematically alienates slots and isn't winning him any friends; this is either town, or a v good jester strat. not lynching before jester leaves.

Blatant Scum - survivalism slipped; unlikely to be jester. probably a very small townread in a vacuum.

Wooper - too cute to lynch today.

ofrhz - hasn't really done anything; reasonable scum equity and I can't really clear this.

BBmolla - this dude is doing such wolfy things I think he actually wants to he scumread lol. if I had to take a pick for jester rn it'd be him.

eth0s - survifalism slipped and very likely not jester but he's also just very towny

best lynch rn fmpov is you BS.

[Wooper]

I like BS a lot more than ofrhz

[Wooper]

Also kinda think talking in circles is more likely to cause us to overthink things with a jester in play. It's +ev to have everyone to detail their reads tomorrow.

[Wooper]

Hope you had a good night.

I still think BS jester equity is too high to lynch today.

He's like... towny... Also think him adhering to his gimmick so passionately is more likely to come from a pure mindset rather than one which is trying to either look like scum or look like someone who isn't tryna look like scum

this feels fucking stupid to type out at length

he doesn't feel agendaey

[Wooper]

every fibre of my being wants to vote bbm which tells me I should not be voting bbm rn

[Wooper]

I know I'm town and trust my capacity to obvtown later in the game. I'd sheep Bungle on me if I were in your shoes but also like.. I'm not a jester so :shrug:

[Wooper]

What on earth are holes in my logic? I want receipts of that because I think you're trying to set me up for a d4-5 mislynch.

BS is the correct lynch today.

[Wooper]

Because we're not lynching me today I'm endgaming this. Did in the last jester micro and I can be trusted not to fuck up an endgame.

Yes BS is towny.
His mindset is very pure.
I want to lynch him
Because we can't lynch the jester
And I'm not 100% sure on the scumteam yet
vs. jester equity

???

[Wooper]

That's gamethrowing in this setup. I know it seems counter intuitive but this is the Ellibereth backed method; lynching town until lylo then lynching scum is objectively the better move, unless you have survivalistic mafia on the fucking HOOK.

[Wooper]

Because (no offense)
if we're looking at a f6 of

eth0s/bbm/ruru/ofrhz/bungle/bs
I don't really trust my townreads in here to get their reads right. towniness/antisurvivalism is one thing - actually finding scum when the time comes is another.

[Wooper]

Let me be more level - are you willing to call Bungle to task in f5? You guys want me in endgame.

[Wooper]

Letting wooper and bingle both go to endgame seems like a ridiculous idea. If a townie flips today and they're both alive then we have successfully allowed two people to pre-lylo that have played the entire game with an agenda of lynching town. How the fuck is town supposed to win in that gamestate?

Let me be more level - are you willing to call Bungle to task in f5? You guys want me in endgame.

I don't know what you're asking

How aren't you seeing this?

[Wooper]

There isn't enough content to be 100% sure on the scumteam yet. Having a jester flip changes the landscape of how you read people's motivations in this setup. :/ I can't give a comprehensive readlist with any major degree of accuracy without knowing which slot is jester.

Guessing now I'd say bbm jester, and I'm starting to get paranoid of eth0s/bungle scum.

[Wooper]

But that means townreading both ruru and ofrhz and like... I'm not ready to do that without tormenting them a little...

[Wooper]

Bungle mystically townreads you and I and says we need to endgame because we're both absolutely town; you have no issue with this until it gets time for the final lynch before the jester flips and suddenly you want me lynched. That reeks of an agenda.

[Wooper]

I'm literally a more obvtown version of Bungle this game. The only reason to lynch me over him is if you think he's the jester (yo) or you're his scumbuddy.

But much much more importantly: we need to lynch someone who is NOT A JESTER and isn't going to win this game in f5.

Ergo: BS.

[Wooper]

eth0s flaking out when being called out is pretty telling :/

[Wooper]

ruru who's teh scums

[Wooper]

VOTE: eth0s
p sure i'm right on the jester
we can do this today

[Wooper]

tfw ur the only townie left

[Wooper]

Bungle mystically townreads you and I and says we need to endgame because we're both absolutely town; you have no issue with this until it gets time for the final lynch before the jester flips and suddenly you want me lynched. That reeks of an agenda.

What, haven't you both townread me all game? If I had an agenda surely I would be fine with going to lylo/pre-lylo with two people that townread me?

unless you're scum with one of them and the other one is starting to obvtown.

if you reach 5p with both me and jungle alive if he's your scumbuddy, i'm more likely to catch him than most other people in this list: it's a really good scum strat to get to lylo-1 and have you attack me from the other side.

[Wooper]

VOTE: eth0s
p sure i'm right on the jester
we can do this today

it's funny to me that I'm scumreading you for having an anti-town agenda so you respond by voting for me acting like I'm a scumread.

Like me calling you out made you directly contradict your own shitty plan LOL

and yet
bungle
who is pushing an identical agenda
but is scummier
gets a free pass
and you don't out a read on him as jester
until i call you s/s

LOL.

[Wooper]

i'm being stupid.
VOTE: BS this is today's mislynch.

bbm is probably jester. bs and eth0s are unlikely jester. if bungle is jester (wildcard) eth0s is very likely town. if bungle survives today, bungle/eth0s is the scumteam. if not, i'll be here to sort {ruru, ofrhz}.

[Wooper]

How the hell do me and bingle read as a scumteam?! Can you cite some sources instead of just making things up?

i'm at work, i don't have the time to iso/quotecase you.
i've talked through what bungle has been doing and i've explained what you've done today that makes you look aligned.

vote BS with me and if i'm wrong, we'll find out pretty soon.

[Wooper]

Okay someone who isnt bingle but has a decent grasp on his meta/playstyle,

Am I paranoid or did he do something in recent posts that suggests he could be like a deep wolf jester? I still dont buy his play this game as being jester indicative but something pinged me the wrong way because I think it supports a viewpoint implied by someone else earlier.

i don't think that's being paranoid at all. don't lynch bungle until the jester is gone.

i think this speaks for itself

i don't think that kind of distancing is outside the average scumrange.

[Wooper]

that's.. not what i said at all

[Wooper]

vote BS with me and if i'm wrong, we'll find out pretty soon.

well he's probably the jester, so no.

i'm gonna need a case on this because BS doesn't read jestery to me.

[Wooper]

BBMOLLA IS CLEARLY THE JESTER LMFAO

[Wooper]

boycotting til you antijester case BS.

[Wooper]

https://www.mafiacolosseum.com/threads/ ... sotis.188/

don't really think we have a lot of people interested in meta here but offsite meta fyi
i think my alignment here is pretty transparent.

[Wooper]

tfw

[Wooper]

tbh i'm not sure he wouldn't just lead town off a cliff as a jester strat

[Wooper]

if it's not bbmolla
it's bungle

then a decent margin
then you/ofrhz
then eth0s
then bs

[Wooper]

I am not a jester.

Even our mafia PT is more active than this.

rvs memes but i think these are worth checking at a really preliminary level; this is a gimmick account and he's playing to his shtick of being ~blatant scum~. If he actually *was* jester I'd expect some level of distancing from it, even at an unconscious level.

Must...resist...urge to...lolhammer ...DDM.

If his jester approach is drawing scum equity to try and be lynched as jester, not hammering here is a bizarre deviation from the strategy; imo this shows an inconsistent approach to the game which doesn't gel with the idea that BS is a jester.

Bingle, so your strategy is to keep lynching every player with low jester equity until day 4?

Is it better to lynch comftown or random player?

Hmmm, so as town I actually should *want* to be lynched?
Interesting approach.

i think this conversation is slippy; if BS is jester and trying to get lynched he hasn't considered that the optimal way to be lynched is to look like you're trying to stay alive. if he's jester he's very likely playing to a more two-dimensional wincon which i don't really think he is because again, his earlier play is pretty inconsistent

Bingle's current playstyle is how I would be playing jester.

this is a strong intuition and something that comes from someone trying to solve the game in the moment imo, not push a longterm agenda.

Yeah, reread Drew Iso. I don't see a world where that is jester.

VOTE: Drew

Preferred lynch order remains the same. Drew > BS > legitimate scumhunting.

I am willing to lynch Drew.
If he flips scum, I am willing to lynch myself.
But if he flips town, I am not lynching myself.

this is a townpost from someone who doesn't know the setup well, or a scumpost from someone who is very good at this setup. it's not a jesterpost.

I mean, you didn't hit scum first 2 days.
If you lynch me today, town has 1/5 probability of victory (in case of random lynching).
Thanks to Bingle's interventions, wagonology probably won't work for first three days here. Mislynches neither.
We should lynch scummy person, even though if his/her jester equity is existing (but still low-medium).

allowing that you can clearly track that BS has been working thru how to play this setup well? this is a very towny post.

I would rather lynch 5% jester than obvtown...

ditto

[Wooper]

rooroo - torment into playing, mild jester equity
Bingle - openwolfing or jester
Blatant Scum - obvtown
Wooper - obvtown
ofrhz - torment into playing, mild-to-medium jester equity
BBmolla - high jester equity
eth0s - wildcard alignment, low jester equity

[Wooper]

the ONLY reason i will accept my lynch today is if it's me, or someone who i think is likely to be a jester. but if town wants to win this, we need to lynch BS.

[Wooper]

the way he's going about powerlynching town doesn't feel like town!bungle in this situation; his play around the drew lynch for example

[Wooper]

yes but we've gone about it in a different way.

[Wooper]

for the record categorising it as just lynching town isn't fair; it's lynching people who are clearly playing to a winco

[Wooper]

Also

VOTE: dr drew

Serious vote.

Huh. Nancy is confer not jester. Bye Nancy.

VOTE: nancy

VOTE: DDM

Fine then. One down, two to go. Drew doesn’t want to be lynched, he goes next.

These posts where he's acting like he's scumreading ddxm/later drew are virtue signalling in a way which isn't consistent with just lynching people who are low jester equity for town ev; Bungle explicitly wants to be townread for it.

[Wooper]

in 255 you said "Blatant Scum - survivalism slipped; unlikely to be jester. probably a very small townread in a vacuum." am I misunderstanding your definition of a survivalism slip? If not, what do you really think and why has it changed?

i think 220 is survivalism slippy; not wanting to be lynched if player X flips alignment Y shows concern about a long-term win condition.

again, jester!BS = any lynch not on himself is bad. Painting other people as jester is an easy way to ensure that person does not get lynched before D4. Therefore he is attempting to leave himself in the lynch pool while removing bingle from it. +jester equity. If you (woop) are really town then explain how this couldn't just as easily be an attempt at scum distancing? Up until this point I'm pretty sure scum!BS was never really worried about getting lynched. If he's scum then wouldn't he feel pretty safe making this post for distance?

i think we need to agree to disagree on the former point; i don't think that's consistent with his approach if he is a jester. wrt the latter it's not a locktown read off this one post but in a vacuum, in a game without a jester, i'd still be townreading BS imo.

Can you explain your thought process here? There's too much WIFOM that can come from his post for me to feel nearly as confident about it as you do.

i'll do this in a minute.

okay? So why do you want to lynch him again?

we need a non-jester lynch and this is the best one fmpov.

Since when?

meant same comment as above, not that i agree

[Wooper]

I mean, you didn't hit scum first 2 days.
If you lynch me today, town has 1/5 probability of victory (in case of random lynching).
Thanks to Bingle's interventions, wagonology probably won't work for first three days here. Mislynches neither.
We should lynch scummy person, even though if his/her jester equity is existing (but still low-medium).

dealing again with the trajectory of BS working out how this setup functions, he's hit the point where he realises Bingle's intervention has basically broken the gamestate (furthermore, that vca rarely works in a jester setup). the conclusion he reaches is *actually* him trying to preserve a high town ev% from his perspective. i personally weigh the risk of instantly losing the game more highly than i weigh the risk of trying to hit red before the jester is removed from the game, but i think him reaching this conclusion as a comparatively new player is pretty pure.

[Wooper]

either that or it's engineered to look that way by someone who is very familiar with this setup
and i just don't think BS reads that way (no offense)

[Wooper]

and again, it's a read designed to draw attention to longterm wincons not one engineered to achieve BS' lynch. so unless he's playing 3d chess he isn't likely the jester.

[Wooper]

any takes on like, dayplay, bbm?

[Wooper]

VOTE: BS this is today's mislynch.

there is no possibility bs is mafia?

he might be mafia; he is likely not jester.

[Wooper]

ofrhz was prodded at pagetop btw

[Wooper]

Town:
rooroo

talk to me abt this btw?

[Wooper]

once jester is gone this game becomes significantly easier imo

agreed; unfortunately this is a big part of why we absolutely can't lynch you today :/

[Wooper]

i kinda agree with that at like, a tonal level
but with some pretty serious reservations
she doesn't really care about mafia much atm
at a mechanical level she's good enough to know to pull this shtick as jester
and i don't really have a firm read on the little bits of solving which have floated thru
but i think she's more readable lategame

[Wooper]

i'm kinda at {town, jester} on you if that's any comfort. i'm a little worried i might be confbiasing but your play does make a lot of sense as jester.

[Wooper]

the only person i have as a fringe scumread who probably isn't a jester is eth0s, who is mostly scum through associatives with bungle, who i think is scum or jester. :c

[Wooper]

something something win condition something something

[Wooper]

I was being hyperbolic, sorry.

[Wooper]

welcome AaronFrost. if you could make your alignment very obvious very quickly it would be appreciated. : ]

I was only gone due to sitelag

[Wooper]

I'm the towniest person you've ever met. Also Wooper is my favorite Pokemon.

can you just marry me right now thanks

[Wooper]

Wooper, why you flailing like scum?

loooooool

bingle: wooper is endgame town
wooper: bungle might be scum
byngle: wooper is flailing scum ( :

[Wooper]

the way he's going about powerlynching town doesn't feel like town!bungle in this situation; his play around the drew lynch for example

Specifics? Also, why do you think you can read me all of a sudden?

I'll case this if I need to but I'd much prefer if someone actually engaged w me on this read so I can develop it without just reading your ISO over and over until I confbias myself.

Solid bravado btw reminiscent of scum!myself

[Wooper]

What changed between this read on me and now?

I reevaluated my read - you're a really self aware player and I don't see why you think I should be held to a read I had 150 posts ago.

Why do you think you’re the best person in this list at reading me when afaicr you have ~0% read accuracy on me?

Because I've seen your tricks and I know this setup. Again nice bravado. Prior performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance and "RAWR you've never read me correctly before!!" is pushing an agenda, not trying to earnestly engage with me and correct my read if you're town.

Why would me being the designated mislynch in 5p not be worrisome?

I have no way to answer this it's like asking what the function of going into 5p with any reads at all is. we play this phase and make sure we don't lynch the jester. then we play 5p out straight.

Who is my partner if it’s not ethos?

I haven't partnercleared anyone off you as of yet. I just see a more transparent agenda coming from the way you and eth0s have handled the suggested endgame towncore of {eth0s, wooper} which makes a LOT of sense coming from a bungle/eth0s scumteam.

If you’re worried I’m jester and ethos is my scum buddy but not jester, why aren’t you trying to lynch ethos?

Because if you ARE a jester I think eth0s is really likely town. The agenda he's pushing really only makes a lot of sense if he's scum with exactly you, because of the way he waited it out and then started attacking me d3. Eth0s is basically sortable by whether or not you leave the game today.

[Wooper]

I haven't partnercleared anyone off you as of yet

This is another reason I need to be here in f5.

[Wooper]

You refusing to see what I'm doing here makes me so sad.

[Wooper]

You look like you're trying to look like you're trying to avoid getting lynched while simultaneously painting me as scummy for things I haven't actually done and holding your reads close to your chest while there is no nightkill and the jester is revealed at the end of today. I'll repeat my question: Why? What do you hope to gain by acting like this?

If you have to decide the lynch 100% by yourself and you're told the game ends if you don't lynch scum, who do you lynch, right now?

i'm trying to highlight the slot i see openwolfing, because i'm worried most of this list won't see it. assuming you're not removed from the game i can't come out in 5p like "WOAH BINGLE IS SCUM" - it's vital that i call it when i first see it. call it setting up for a lynch if you like; it's setting up a dialogue so that we can sort you before endgame.

this isn't a realistic scenario btw given the jester being in play but if it WAS i'd lynch you.

[Wooper]

probable notjesters

dw this was clearly a typo

[Wooper]

dude you're not getting a lynch on me. don't try it.

you know why you can twist my words to make me look bad: because i've been here trying to solve the game in realtime. i have read trajectory that you can twist to try and present as inconsistencies. i have stances, but i am not going to evaluate parts of the game which i frankly may not need to bother with, no.

aaron is not "likely town" at all; he hasn't been in a position where he's needed to alignment tell. ruru is more likely town than that slot but not a lot. bb is likely town unless stronger townreads/POE indicates otherwise.

[Wooper]

So you think Aaron is the best lynch for today?

Good to know. I'm glad you answered that when I asked you.

Now, who is likely to be my partner.

Where the fuck did you get that from?

And I'm not PoEing a partner for you pre-jester flip it's not a good use of my time.

You realize that all of this applies more so to me than to you, right?

LOL.

Also:

dude you're not getting a lynch on me. don't try it.

Solid bravado btw reminiscent of scum!myself

lemme go find that massive thinking emoji again

[Wooper]

[Wooper]

your read on me keeps changing to what's convenient

you have this bizarrely high standard of me to have a full teamsolve out of 6 slots when there's a jester in play

this 1v1 is so fucking ridiculous i'm still paranoid you want me to lynch you over it

[Wooper]

This is why
We need to lynch town today
Lose the jester so I can be bothered finding your partner
Then sort this out in f5

[Wooper]

short answer: by butting heads with you in F5

[Wooper]

We need to lynch town today

No. We need to lynch Not Jester today. There is 0 reason not to scumhunt within the pool of NotJester.

this is obviously what i meant

[Wooper]

rooroo - not lynching.
Bingle - not lynching.
Blatant Scum - quality lynch and idk how people don't see it.
Wooper - too cute to lynch.
ofrhz/aaron - ? ? ?
BBmolla - definitely not lynching
eth0s - too easy to POE via solving jungle

BS is objectively the right lynch here.

[Wooper]

cool
i feel better about you and eth0s' by extension

[Wooper]

Why do you think you’re the best person in this list at reading me when afaicr you have ~0% read accuracy on me?

That is ~100% if we use negation of his read.

also this is hilarious

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rooroo - won't play the game
Bingle - town/jester
Blatant Scum - weak townread, stronger survivalistic read
Wooper - too cute to lynch
ofrhz/aaron - not playing the game yet
BBmolla - jester/scum
eth0s - likely town

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woops/bungle/eth0s towncore hitting f5 is a gamebreak on slots who aren't playin

i'm legitimately surprised you didn't pick me positioning you as a reaction test but i sincerely don't think you realised

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it's v anti scum indicative

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jester wincon this phase is literally
getting lynched
asap
or being BS and existing

i think the way BS is posting is probably leaning away from town indicative but he remains antisurvivalistic

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nope - we don't hang out as much as i'd like </3
but i did divine my own optimal strat

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you actually raise a v good point i forgot about the LOOMING TIMER

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deadline: 3 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes

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I

don't

feel better about you.

btw i don't need you to feel better about me today.
i need you to feel better about me if we're both still alive tomorrow.

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That's defs a good strategy to avoid a jesterlynch
kinda think there's a lot of benefit to setting up d4+ as well tho

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absolutely but d4 could be lylo if we don't taste red today. i have zero regrets pushing your buttons until you performed outside of mechanics.

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rururururu

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broken!ruru still cares about games as town even accidentally

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bbmololola

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if it's any comfort you probtowning yourself off my reaction test probably won us the game?

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Solid bravado btw reminiscent of scum!myself

You refusing to see what I'm doing here makes me so sad.

i even softed that i was heckling you

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still. if we take a ride or die on {bs, ruru, bbm, aaron} containing all of the scum this'll hold up that 100% winrate

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dw i'm town and bs is firmly notjester

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just thinking about it - aaronfrost should be p obvtown in this setup postjester

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your play makes sense as either

you've been p low impact, your votes and reads have been safe in the gamestates you've dropped them into. your stuff abt being an optimal lynch is ideal lynch distancing and i think it was intended to be the kind of thing that ~looks~ towny but i'm not convinced it IS towny

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lol.....unlikely, ruru

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i think BS probably flips town as well
but he is suuuper unlikely to flip jester

i'm like p 100% on bungle being town.

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"problematic playstyle" is my preferred choice of wording

or "damn upside-down kitten in a boot"

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ok the problem is
if you're caught jester
it makes the most sense for you to charge in and try to alienate enough people that we just lynch you

so please get towntelling

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UNVOTE:

eth0s hmu when you're around

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Given that game was 7 years ago (and you were 7 years younger) I'm sort of not inclined to use it as much of a meta lead except that you have a level of self awareness - which I already knew because I already know you're good at mafia. D:

I'm not really changing my read on you and tbh I'm not sure if you expect me to rn?

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Actually as a matter of interest - if you had to pick a lynch today who would you pick? other than yourself ofc

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Bbm/jungle how confident are you two in reading each other?
Eth0s talk to me about notjester!BS please I don't agree

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I'm wondering if I'm being more spiteful than good, I'm not sure I see jester motivation in ofrhz/aaron but my heart would break if they actually flipped jester

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I acknowledged you beautiful, you're my favourite.

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VOTE: Blatant Scum

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I was very annoying. But I knew bungle would start playing harder if he clocked me as playing a jester game. Worth a shot.

Very well played.

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Wooper what was your gameplan that last day bro

basically pray y'all thought I was positioning people for late game mislynches and think I was just Actually Scum who needed to endgame

it's really rough randing jester in a setup vs. someone like Bungle who WILL strongarm the gamestate into lynching into pools of people he's comfortable with. he knows I'm selfaware enough not to play to a traditional jester strategy (or a traditional anything strategy). so I needed to look like deep/powerscum and also work on alienating slots who WEREN'T bungle.

The way I went about handling bungle on d3 was directly out of my usual scum pocketing meta

:shrug: I tried my best. win probability in this list was tiny.

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same ya