Micro 953: Treestump Express [Game Over]

[pighawk]

in The end it came down to limiting information. We picked the two least vocal players and me. I went in instead of chem for wifom. I think that was basically what it boiled down to.

Hawk?

[pighawk]

I went instead of hawk*

[pighawk]

Chem, what’s your current read?

If you were scum, who would you put in 3p and why?

[pighawk]

Everything is wifom flip.

[pighawk]

If you were scum, who would you put in 3p and why?

Holy WIFOM bullshit, Batman!
It's WIFOM bullshit!

Better use my anti-WIFOM bullshit spray!

This reaction is pretty scummy, actually. I’m guessing flip is afraid of the answers. Flip, what’s your answer to this question? Hoptic too.

[pighawk]

Hoptic (1)- pighawk
chkflip (1)- Tuxedo Mask
Chemist1422 (1)- Pooky

Not Mooting - SherlockHolmes, AliceRaider45

[pighawk]

I think my memory of Chkflip is coming back to me...if I recall correctly and this was years ago, he just has a super abrasive personality.

-Hawk

[pighawk]

That’s pretty decent, actually. I need words to read. Flip so speculate on hoptic a reasoning to put you and chem here?

[pighawk]

Aight

Chem to me seems like the obvious mislynch, and I can see hoptic putting you both here. So without taking wifom into account, I lean hoptic as scum here. And the wifom seems a bit weak so I’m landing there pretty hard. Does that make sense?

[pighawk]

And here I thought you hated wifom;)

[pighawk]

pretty sure if we lynch pighawk we win outright as town

Hectic keeps sending me vaguely threatening letters reminding me I haven't posted in a while. That's probably because I still agree with this.

-Ho

Hey Shrek, how are you feeling about Alice now- post 110? It sounds like you both at least somewhat scumread her and she jumps out more as obvtown to us and I think a few other people.

Pooky I've moved from vague suspicions to a reasonable townread. Post 80 is what did it which is kind of odd since it was all RP, but it I liked the smell of it anyway.

-H

Egix, what would you say is your strongest scumread at this point and why?

You seemed more inquisitive and proactive in your last town game regarding reads.

~Hecti

these post ~feel~ Scummy to me. They are carrying on engaging with a wide swath of players, askning questions but there’s never really lead to feet in the fire, especially on egix.

[pighawk]

Oh please do tell how 240, 242 and 246 are scumhunting.

[pighawk]

Some things never have to change.

You were fun to play with back then, Pro.

What happened?

I'm in a hydra... it... mellow you down a bit

~Hawk

[pighawk]

Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?

~Hawk

[pighawk]

Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?

~Hawk

The scum in this 3p is going to try and fit in as hard as possible. So if the two town don’t post the scum won’t. It’s incumbent on the two town players to set the pace. And of course more words are better.

[pighawk]

in The end it came down to limiting information. We picked the two least vocal players and me. I went in instead of chem for wifom. I think that was basically what it boiled down to.

Hawk?

For me it came down to choosing two other people who were similar in who read who in the state of the game. I was pretty universally town-read, therefore didn't want to go in with other people who were pretty heavily scum-read or I would have stuck out heavily and then the question "Why is he in with these people" would have to be answered.... I also couldn't put myself in with other town-reads because of twilight essential clears...

This would only make sense if you read the previous treestump game.

~Hawk

[pighawk]

@Any stump request: I really don't have time for meta. Could one of the treestumps look through Chemist's games and see how they normally react to lylos? They took a pretty quick stance this game and it'd be helpful to know if this is alignment indicative for them.

-Hopki

So I am under the impression that you or your other head played WITH US (Chemist included) in the last Treestump, why are you asking stumps for that information? There's some super strange stuff coming from your slot.

~Hawk

[pighawk]

I think any scumread we have on hoptic is going to be called bias so idgaf. Hoptic is aping flips read here and will just as easily spam back onto chemist at the earliest oportunity. P. Obv.

[pighawk]

Take a step back from the game Hawk. Come back when you're able to interpret things without bias. That question never mentions the last treestump game and refers to multiple games. It clearly involves looking at their meta in general. If you aren't able to get that then you should take a break from the game and come back with less bias.

Obviously I shouldn't need to explain why confirmed town are a good group of people to ask to do meta reads.

-Hopkir

Or maybe you could just answer my questions instead of sweeping them under the rug?

If you would take a second to actually work with me instead of treating me like I'm scum (*Hint I'm not*) I would open up a dialog there.

~Hawk

[pighawk]

I mean... if you want to make this an interrogation...

Did you or did you not play the last Treestump game? If you didn't did your partner? Also, if you/they did, why are you asking for meta on Chem if you already have first hand experience?

~Hawk

[pighawk]

Maybe y’all to the other loving players or other stumps then? Because all you are doing now is asking for others to do research for you and telling me and hawk how bad our tunnel of you is. It’s like you are happy to just keep going back and forth with us to the exclusion of moving any other part of the game state. Your weak read on chem just looks like a copy of flip. Continually arguing directly with us isn’t making you look town IMO. But you do you.

[pighawk]

Jesus “talk to the other loving players” that should say damn phone

And by the way, I’m not trying to pick on you, I am not convinced you are scum, and I’m paranoid as hell about flip and to some extent chem but you are just not doing much to shake this read. I’m begging you; towntel somehow.

[pighawk]

Hm. No one is making this easy. Except I’m about 99% chem town here

[pighawk]

More? You mean “at all” right? You didn’t push egos AT ALL.

[pighawk]

I honestly don't see how Pig's slot coming from any mindset other than 'Hoptic thinks we gamethrew and said they'd blacklist me so let's just troll them instead of winning the game.' It's not possible for anyone who can comprehend written language at a reasonable level to take the argument they did yesterday (irl time) where they completely misinterpreted that phrasing in a way that's impossible to reasonably read it four separate times. At best they're just trying to troll us.

Is there a way to block players because they're not trying to talk to us in good faith, they don't care about any other slots, and the ignorance or malice they're showing after they decided to gamethrow is pissing me off whenever I see them post in the thread.

-Hopk

Focusing entirely on us rather than trying to game solve at all.

[pighawk]

I’m literally begging you to scumhunt and all you are doing is spewing rage at us.

[pighawk]

I'm a bit fuzzy in general rn I should probably be getting more sleep

I'm also not convinced I'm ever going to talk myself into voting flip so intent to vote hoptic

730 is so petty. I fucking love it.

Honestly at this point I feel like throwing my vote to the stumps, but I know that's not the optimal play so I'll pull deep and re-read some things and come to a final conclusion soon.

Like do you see what’s about to happen here?

[pighawk]

It should be something town hoptic worries about.

[pighawk]

730 is so petty. I fucking love it.

Honestly at this point I feel like throwing my vote to the stumps, but I know that's not the optimal play so I'll pull deep and re-read some things and come to a final conclusion soon.

Bump

[pighawk]

Was it the caps lock? Jkjk

[pighawk]

Gg wp