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In post 14, ejjinami wrote:I wasn’t really planning to play this game but here I am
don’t expect any sort of amazing activity from me
What do you think of a massclaim right at the beginning?
Vigs are potential ICs while super saints/bombs could be used to get a double lynch (if the person who’s supposed to hammer doesn’t hammer, they’ll get shot)
So theoretically it’d be better if we lynch among the bomb/supersaint group
I admit that I haven’t analyzed all aspects of it but at first glance claiming [vig] or [not vig] might be beneficial
In post 14, ejjinami wrote:I wasn’t really planning to play this game but here I am
don’t expect any sort of amazing activity from me
What do you think of a massclaim right at the beginning?
Vigs are potential ICs while super saints/bombs could be used to get a double lynch (if the person who’s supposed to hammer doesn’t hammer, they’ll get shot)
So theoretically it’d be better if we lynch among the bomb/supersaint group
I admit that I haven’t analyzed all aspects of it but at first glance claiming [vig] or [not vig] might be beneficial
1. says not to expect any sort of amazing activity
2. asks for a massclaim
alright buddy, the bar has been lowered.
??????????????
the question about the massclaim was serious lol
I feel like people rn are rejecting it jsut because “oh no massclaims aren’t great in most setups so they surely won’t help now”, without even bothering to stop for a moment and think
We have a few potential ICs in the game but besides that, absolutely no investigative power. That alone makes me really unwilling to lynch among that bunch
Bombs and super saints can be used to find scum as well. Lynching a supersaint can give us advantage over the mafia (lower their kill to lynch ratio)
so at first glance, claiming [vig, not vig] doesn’t seem like a bad idea
I’m NOT good at setup spec and I DON’T have a lot of experience with it, which is why I’m asking. Please think of it and provide me with an answer different from just “lol no”
In post 25, nepenthe wrote:no but on a serious note, i don't think massclaiming is beneficial in that if i'm understanding this correctly, it just sets scum up with an easier path on who to kill/needlessly sets town back a bit.
In post 26, Raya36 wrote:I can see a massclaim being helpful later in game to lie detect and try to mechanically solve the game but as it is now I don't think town would gain much info whereas it would really help scum
welp... ok
I should have read the entire thread before posting
In post 28, Flea The Magician wrote:I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
Kinda sus. Not sure why we'd IC vig's either.
vigs are ICs as long as the mafia kill is identified.
As long as everyone claims their shots right after making them and there’s still 1 left for mafia, those who claimed will have to be town
In post 28, Flea The Magician wrote:I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
Kinda sus. Not sure why we'd IC vig's either.
vigs are ICs as long as the mafia kill is identified.
As long as everyone claims their shots right after making them and there’s still 1 left for mafia, those who claimed will have to be town
The shots are at night so you mean everyone claims who they killed the next day? Scum would just have one of their own claim to be a vig and then claim the nk as their shot.
we’d know that there’s 1 scum there then
or that the mafia no-killed (with or without having info about the vig shot prior to that)
I THINK as long as we don’t talk about the future vig shots too much and just leave it up to choice, the mafia will have no reason to no-kill
So IF by chance all kills are claimed, we’ll get a PoE of 1 scum among the claimants anyway
That doesn’t seem like a bad deal to me
All of ejji's contentful posts before any actual non-iioa popped up and then they be hypocritical and then SR Kop for doing the same, or at least that's what I understood of their post.
i cant understand if this is criticism or a scum lean hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
In post 50, Saudade wrote:Why are you worried about having two townreads
this is an interesting way to misrepresent what i'm saying. i do appreciate the creativity but i encourage you to try again if the endgoal is to stir me up for a reaction you can get a read off of.
In post 49, nepenthe wrote:weirdly worried about raya versus ejj being tvt though, i don't sr either of them after reading their exchange.
it’s as if any of us will get lynched from a bunch of RvS votes
if either of us was at L-1, maybe then it’d have some weight
if you’re “worried”
why not just push someone
instead of saying it lol
i don't believe in pushing for the sake of pushing and until i get my grounding in the game, i'm not committing to anything. hth.
well like 2(?) other players have agreed that this post stands out so instead of just avoiding answering it with some "HAHA NICE TRY LOL YOU WONT GET ME" you could paraphrase what you meant better or just self vote and give up
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post #131 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:27 pm
Postby Saudade »
In post 100, nepenthe wrote:the point i was making, for those who missed it as well as those who committed quickly to misunderstanding it on purpose, is that it's concerning to me when i see people i both perceive as town putting pressure on each other. it feels like wasted energy fmpov. AMA!
oh there, you clarified in the very next post, whats the point of the first post then?
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post #147 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:02 pm
Postby Saudade »
You know that feeling you about to replace into a game of mafiascum and have a good time with decent people but ZOINK you forgot to check the playerlist
And end up playing with not_mafia
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
i thought about this and i was a bit harsh, I'm still not reading your mechanical speculation but I acknowledge that it probably has some value sometimes
end of the non game related post
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
In post 103, Kop wrote:
Yes but the point is, the true vigilantes will know they are blanks right after shooting, but when claiming it, they can't back the claim up so it still doesn't progress us any further forward and we're left aiming at a pool of claims to sort through and giving scum a path of where they can shoot within because they will know who the real vigilante is, and what pool the
doctor
, bombs, and supersaints are in.
In this post Kop assumes there is a doctor. There is no town doctor but there is a chance of a scum doctor. He claims that he didn't read the setup and knew about the vigs, bombs, and supersaints from conversation in the thread, and he just assumed that there would be a doctor because most basic games have a doctor (not true). His past games don't suggest he should be assuming a doctor because very few of his most recent past games had a doctor.
I wouldn't vote him over this tbh but keep it in the back of my mind.
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post #274 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:07 am
Postby Saudade »
In post 272, Flea The Magician wrote:Why not? early D1 its an amazing lil chonk to push and pressure on? And they've kinda not done much else this day. we're 11 pages in to D1 we should all have some decent level of interaction at this point and at least one or two solid reads to be playing around with.
what's stopping you pushing on this interaction? or forming other interactions instead of being super passive?
im not passive i want nepenthe lynched heehee
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post #332 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:54 pm
Postby Saudade »
The nep scum read in a nutshell was just me pressuring random slots that have not posted enough for me to get a townread on,
you're not getting anymore information out of kop so just unvote him for now and since the game state is dead like my soul I'll just wait until nep replies something of value or her replacement does
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
In post 426, Raya36 wrote:Maybe mafia shot Nepenthe and used their doc ability? And then because mafia already shot Nepenthe then NM shooting Nepenthe did nothing because they were already dead or NM is just blank?
Wh would scum shoot nepenthe?
you
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
