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I dunno. I have always been completely against mass claims unless its really neededIn post 14, ejjinami wrote:I wasn’t really planning to play this game but here I am
don’t expect any sort of amazing activity from me
What do you think of a massclaim right at the beginning?
Vigs are potential ICs while super saints/bombs could be used to get a double lynch (if the person who’s supposed to hammer doesn’t hammer, they’ll get shot)
So theoretically it’d be better if we lynch among the bomb/supersaint group
I admit that I haven’t analyzed all aspects of it but at first glance claiming [vig] or [not vig] might be beneficial
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I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
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I don’t know either. That’s why I’m askingIn post 20, Raya36 wrote:I don't know much about when mass claims are good or not so I'm also for now against it-
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you know, maybe give me a support role first then?
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??????????????In post 24, nepenthe wrote:
1. says not to expect any sort of amazing activityIn post 14, ejjinami wrote:I wasn’t really planning to play this game but here I am
don’t expect any sort of amazing activity from me
What do you think of a massclaim right at the beginning?
Vigs are potential ICs while super saints/bombs could be used to get a double lynch (if the person who’s supposed to hammer doesn’t hammer, they’ll get shot)
So theoretically it’d be better if we lynch among the bomb/supersaint group
I admit that I haven’t analyzed all aspects of it but at first glance claiming [vig] or [not vig] might be beneficial
2. asks for a massclaim
alright buddy, the bar has been lowered.
the question about the massclaim was serious lol
I feel like people rn are rejecting it jsut because “oh no massclaims aren’t great in most setups so they surely won’t help now”, without even bothering to stop for a moment and think
We have a few potential ICs in the game but besides that, absolutely no investigative power. That alone makes me really unwilling to lynch among that bunch
Bombs and super saints can be used to find scum as well. Lynching a supersaint can give us advantage over the mafia (lower their kill to lynch ratio)
so at first glance, claiming [vig, not vig] doesn’t seem like a bad idea
I’m NOT good at setup spec and I DON’T have a lot of experience with it, which is why I’m asking. Please think of it and provide me with an answer different from just “lol no”-
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In post 25, nepenthe wrote:no but on a serious note, i don't think massclaiming is beneficial in that if i'm understanding this correctly, it just sets scum up with an easier path on who to kill/needlessly sets town back a bit.
welp... okIn post 26, Raya36 wrote:I can see a massclaim being helpful later in game to lie detect and try to mechanically solve the game but as it is now I don't think town would gain much info whereas it would really help scum
I should have read the entire thread before posting
that’s fair. I forgot about the kill PoE-
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vigs are ICs as long as the mafia kill is identified.In post 28, Flea The Magician wrote:I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
Kinda sus. Not sure why we'd IC vig's either.
As long as everyone claims their shots right after making them and there’s still 1 left for mafia, those who claimed will have to be town-
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You caught me... but you know what animal wolves don't like?
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The shots are at night so you mean everyone claims who they killed the next day? Scum would just have one of their own claim to be a vig and then claim the nk as their shot.In post 35, ejjinami wrote:
vigs are ICs as long as the mafia kill is identified.In post 28, Flea The Magician wrote:I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
Kinda sus. Not sure why we'd IC vig's either.
As long as everyone claims their shots right after making them and there’s still 1 left for mafia, those who claimed will have to be town-
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooIn post 38, Raya36 wrote:You caught me... but you know what animal wolves don't like?
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we’d know that there’s 1 scum there then :PIn post 39, Raya36 wrote:
The shots are at night so you mean everyone claims who they killed the next day? Scum would just have one of their own claim to be a vig and then claim the nk as their shot.In post 35, ejjinami wrote:
vigs are ICs as long as the mafia kill is identified.In post 28, Flea The Magician wrote:I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
Kinda sus. Not sure why we'd IC vig's either.
As long as everyone claims their shots right after making them and there’s still 1 left for mafia, those who claimed will have to be town
or that the mafia no-killed (with or without having info about the vig shot prior to that)
I THINK as long as we don’t talk about the future vig shots too much and just leave it up to choice, the mafia will have no reason to no-kill
So IF by chance all kills are claimed, we’ll get a PoE of 1 scum among the claimants anyway
That doesn’t seem like a bad deal to me-
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Idk, personally too much wifom about the 1 scum or no kill for me to be happy with that plan. Mafia no kills and then we're just picking off our vigs because we assumed mafia had no reason to no kill.
All kills will be claimed though. If we go through with this mafia have no choice but to have 1 claim vig and the kill or else we have a bunch of confirmed townies. Unless they're assuming there won't be many vigs that aren't blank and they're ok with that amount getting confirmed. Then they're obvious targets for the kill because they're confirmed town and also confirmed not to be bombs.-
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you're alright. if it helps, i'm just messing with you but i like your flow of thought thereafter and it feels natural. inclined to think this slot is town - i don't see scum asking for a massclaim and then rebounding with "forgetting about kill PoE" - it feels too innocent, like... not sure how to explain that better but i just think ejj's sincere here and would've probably tried to spin it by making up a reason for why massclaim could be beneficial for town if he was scum and had something to gain from it. does that make sense?In post 34, ejjinami wrote:In post 25, nepenthe wrote:no but on a serious note, i don't think massclaiming is beneficial in that if i'm understanding this correctly, it just sets scum up with an easier path on who to kill/needlessly sets town back a bit.
welp... okIn post 26, Raya36 wrote:I can see a massclaim being helpful later in game to lie detect and try to mechanically solve the game but as it is now I don't think town would gain much info whereas it would really help scum
I should have read the entire thread before posting
that’s fair. I forgot about the kill PoE-
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