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Post #371 (isolation #18) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:11 pm
Postby No Face »
No Face saw a lot of words and some of those words were written by Menalque on the page 1 where he posted like he didn't know about groups and didn't seem like he knew things scum would know, if he is faking it it was a convincing performance, but I think more likely Menalque is one of the town.
Another of those words were written by the Ydrasse, who seemed like she was having a lot of fun when there's a lot of pressure of being in the group of 6, the person in there could singlehandedly lose the game for the scum, so has more of a need or inkling in their head telling them to fake some things to talk about if someone is town or scum. Ydrasse has one or two reads but hasn't tried to fake any of these things that scum would feel the need to.
Vanders also wrote some words. He wanted to kill No Face :D because they weren't giving any information and I think the town ones are more likely to openly be the first to suggest the policy this early, he also seemed like he was genuine and believing when talking about how he wanted to kill in the 3 group so he would definitely see that flip of the scum to try and solve the rest of the game before any losses.
skitter felt left out so also wrote some words, and I felt special when she said she also likes Menalque and Vander for the similar reasons to why I do, and she's also playing this like not for the long term if she's scum. If Infinity dies today and is the town she probably dies tommorow because people think she's the scum. I think she would be more reserved and unsure like how Infinity was at the start if she was scum. Lean one way but don't commit to it. This is what Infinity was doing, but skitter seems like she really thinks Infinity is the scum right now.
Pooky has only talked about mech so far and I am waiting for the reads :)
Nor seemed too weird to be scum in his first 3 posts writes he made, like he was trying to look and act scummy, which is actually towny. But I am not so confident on him as the others.
Bingle has given okay reads but nothing that he has wrote makes me think definitely scum or town.
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Post #374 (isolation #19) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:23 pm
Postby No Face »
No Face read back on the post and realized there might be confusion about why No Face thinks Ydrasse is town for not trying to do anything while Pooky could be scum even though he isn't giving reads. This is because I count mech advice as faking something that scum thinks they can be townread from.
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Post #458 (isolation #23) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:58 am
Postby No Face »
The main face for Infinity being mafia is because it's weird for mafia skitter or Bingle to put her in the group of 3 when she feels more like a group of 6 player, since she is more likely to be wrongfully eliminated by the other players when she is town, more often that players like Menalque or Pooky. Mafia needs to put all the players that can sometimes look like mafia as town in the group of 6 because that is the one that matters. This is why I think skitter is more likely to be town, because she could blend in well in the group of 6 so she only puts herself in group of 3 if she doesn't really want to play as mafia for too long.
I can see mafia Infinity putting herself with 2 strong players and coming out swinging. The words are possibly written.
Bingle seems to be playing quite safely, like he's in a safe :O
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Post #466 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:04 am
Postby No Face »
The one thing I have liked about the Infinity is how often she says she's out of her scumrange, like matter of fact like the words are so obvious and she can't believe no one else doesn't see the same words :-
In post 371, No Face wrote:If Infinity dies today and is the town she probably dies tommorow because people think she's the scum.
Isn't this not a big deal? She's in the group of 3, so she kind of did her job if she elims me. Also I think skitt is a strong enough scum player that this isn't really true
After some thinking I agree this is a stupid read :)
I think I believe she's towny moreso in how earnestly skitter is pursuing her words on you being scum rather than the committing theory. The committing theory is stupid because people like to townread poeple who commit everything on someone being scum, so the logic is the circular
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Post #579 (isolation #34) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:32 am
Postby No Face »
In post 550, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:No Face trying to make Pooky/Bingle scumteam a thing when Bingle!Scum autoloses if Pooky!scum flips is kind of cute ngl :3
No Face said that before Bingle was suspicious of Pooky's words or voted for him, No Face isn't a time traveler...
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Post #605 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:02 pm
Postby No Face »
I'm not pushing for it being exactly you two, and it's not like the Bingle couldn't just be distancing early, it's not like he's said anything which will definitely convince others to follow him and vote you :/
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Post #620 (isolation #40) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:14 pm
Postby No Face »
I don't think you or Bingle have done anything really scummy Pooky. For you especially it's because the words the others have made in the group of 6 have all felt like town, all but your words have not :=
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Post #623 (isolation #41) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:16 pm
Postby No Face »
In post 614, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:You're also not letting new information affect your decision but have instead decided to go with the "bingle is trying to javelin-throw lose the game immediately on d1" interpretation of events...
No I'm not saying that at all D:
No Face isn't saying the Bingle and Pooky are a team read because of interactions
It just so happens that Pooky is my lowest read in the group of 6 and Bingle is my lowest read in the group of 3
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Post #637 (isolation #44) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:26 pm
Postby No Face »
Well just a note to Pooky, this is how I form reads. If two of my scumreads or poe are unlikely to be partners with each, it's not like I'm just going to abandon them
Independentally, they are both still suspicious to me. If anything, it means I may be correct on one but not the other :(
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Post #651 (isolation #47) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:30 pm
Postby No Face »
In post 640, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:You can tell this is what he is doing right now with his push on me. It's not alignment sorting - it's push to kill.
it's I town-read everyone else for ___, ____, ____, and _____
It leaves one person out of the equation, notably that's himself.
It's an effective strategy for pushing mis-elims on d1 because you create a coalition/support by handing out townreads to get people to help you, and you create a mutual target for everyone to go after.
It's also incredibly difficult for me to defend against because he's not actually scum-reading me for anything, so there's nothing for me to refute
then tomm after I'm flipped town he will "go back" to his townreads and "think" about where he went wrong.
But why can't I just be town who townreads the other 4?_?
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Post #668 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:41 pm
Postby No Face »
Pooky if you want the reasons why I think you could be scum and have been on the back of No Face's mind:
In the last coalition game you played as town, you were really excited about the prospect of a day 1 win and actively pushed hard for it. But while doing this you were also outting lots of reads are trying to win the game by finding town and scum
In this game, you acted similarly about the big day 1 win but did nothing to help it like giving reads or finding town/scum. It's like you're going through the motions but not doing the fieldwork I saw you were eager to do in that coalition game
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Post #813 (isolation #58) » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
Postby No Face »
In post 802, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I haven't even pushed you until I gave you multiple chances to re-evaluate your push on me in the light of new information and seeing that you chose to ignore it each and every time I have no alternative but to see this as a scum motivated push to kill and not genuine in trying to sort me.
I didn't see anything that made me re-evaluate... why does that make me scum? You reacting like this and basically forcing a 1v1 makes me feel worse about you, not better :[