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@isis thanks, can you try to articulate the hall monitor thing better?

I mostly feel like you just don't have a good baseline for my towngame

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@isis When I have to write "what do you mean" after every one of your posts it's much harder to have meaningful interaction

Did you think I was gonna say that and then not use the opportunity of comprehensible isis posts to sort you? I don't really get it

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Isis stop ignoring me

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I'm not sure you need me to tell you this isis but it's frustrating when you don't answer my questions

If you don't have a good answer that's ok too but talking to a wall is very frustrating

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I also don't get why you're SRing me for having weird progressions when you TRed me in jk9++ and I had like the worst progressions ever

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Did you think I was gonna say that and then not use the opportunity of comprehensible isis posts to sort you? I don't really get it

And it's possible your alignment is different I'm trying to figure it out

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Huh, that's an interesting point

I think there's a way to meet in the middle, but yes there's always some artificiality there

With you posting so much that you seemed to believe I thought it would help a lot to check the actual content to make sure you're not just making up bullshit

I accept your response

PEdit: your posts around when I wrote the hall monitor post were all written in isis thought language and I don't speak that language

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Is the 1 scum in isis/infinity thing because of interactions or PoE or some other reason

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Is the 1 scum in isis/infinity thing because of interactions or PoE or some other reason

Isis was trying to come up with ideas on how to combat Koba's idea on how to approach the setup, failed miserably, admitted that our plan was better, and still tried to come up with something to compete.

You piggybacked on said idea in away that did not feel like scum v scum

Oh I was wondering why it's not T/T

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Infy if we were both town it would be unfair to the scum Top and Counterbalance shouldn't be legal in the same format

<3 but if we're both town here we don't have nearly that much synergy

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Johnny are you ready to end the day?

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I had a similar read on scum!unwnd last time I played with him

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if infinity is town i'm going to have a lot of words with her

What did I do this time

VOTE: end day

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Is there anything communication-wise or sorting-wise that people think I should be doing that I'm not

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Dungeon:

Morning Tweet, Infinity, Srckz

Guillotine:

JohnnyFarrar

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Johnny is one of my stronger townreads tbh

2 towny slots and I'm too paranoid of everyone else

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Inf is sort of stating more than intuiting most of their content, which hits me all wrong

This is intentional, I'm making an effort to communicate my reads more clearly

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Boys drool and girls rule. Isis are you ok with doing dungeon?

Our fearless leader ydrasse is sending us to the dungeon

We will lay down our lives for her if necessary

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I share isis's confident ydrasse townread

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You asked for everyone to ISO isis and tell you that her ydrasse read isn't weird; I don't need to ISO isis to do so. She could be scum but that's not why

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@koba I liked the energy around the mech plan early on
Ali made a post to me about me recognizing town!ali which felt town. At first I didn't think too much of it but it really feels like a towny appeal.
I didn't like your interactions with isis. In retrospect I'm not quite sure why scum!you was arguing so much with isis, but your tone reminded me a lot of your scumgames and you didn't feel to me like you were trying to sort her. Then you TRed her for having nuanced thoughts which she'd been having all game and I don't see town!you giving out townreads like that very much. This part I still think is scummy but it's not enough to outweigh other things
You posting today has been towny to me, especially the part where you tried to compare the situation you're in now to the situation I was in in black flag. I don't think the comparison is apt but the outreach is towny because I don't think scum!you cares much at all about me SRing you here. I think there were other towny posts today, I'll find quotes tomorrow

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Isis read on ydrasse is really good and definitely genuine regardless of isis's alignment.

I almost want to call it scummy since the read on me is so much worse but that's probably self-centered

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I haven't properly addressed Dunn/Emily or given my thoughts on them, so they got more attention. I hadn't explained why I think Anya/Johnny make sense to me right now either. It all follows a structure; You would've gotten more but I'm not gonna get into it.

I vibe with this, feels towny

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The "it all follows a structure" is good because scum's thoughts don't follow a structure and they need to type more words to make it seem like they do. Unwnd doesn't care about that. Emotionally, I felt similarly interacting with you and others; it's kind of exhausting to keep having to explain myself

I may be weighting it too highly; I know unwnd is good at replicating emotional states like this

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What does that mean

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the whole post fits the descriptor you put for scum - I'm not getting what you're saying here.

Basically I think scum would feel compelled to explain their reads more when pressed. It's a bit more nuanced than that but I don't think I can explain it better

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What does that mean

i mainly see you out reads that are one extreme or the other. no in between.

Atm emily, isis, and srckz are in between reads.

You're right to some extent and this is probably a weakness in my play. If I set out to sort someone I want to come to a firm conclusion, even when I don't really have the tools as a scumhunter to do so. I try to focus my energy on the people I can sort the best and sometimes even ignore the others, but most of this plist is tough to sort.

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but does scum!unwnd do that

I don't have enough meta to say for sure

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but does scum!unwnd do that

I don't have enough meta to say for sure

you just finished a game with scum unwnd, did you not?

He didn't do the "I'm done explaining" in that game, but you'd only say that in a pretty specific context so 1 game is too small of a sample

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@tweet I voted to end the day because I didn't think there was much more to discuss, ydrasse had already laid out the plan and johnny said he was ready. I forgot you weren't caught up sorry

Tweet is scary towny

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I think if srckz is scum it's going to have to be someone else who catches them. They would have to be putting a lot of effort into pocketing me

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I think if srckz is scum it's going to have to be someone else who catches them. They would have to be putting a lot of effort into pocketing me

way to discred everything emily put out

This is not what I'm doing, in fact emily has some good points and this was my way of processing that. It's possible emily will be the one to catch them.

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its a discred and i'm gonna call it what it is.

either say the case is something you agree with or tell us what you disagree with.

I agree with the case but the arguments aren't strong enough for a full scumread. Emily doesn't full scumread the slot either so idk what you're on about

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I'm not having an off game I'm proud of how I played and expressed myself this game

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What is off about my play this game (assuming I'm town) I wanna know

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I'm going to the dungeon

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Prepping guillo tonight.

Infinity, cake, tweet do dungeon. Everyone else level up. Yeah?

Yep

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does anyone else see the problem here?

Yes lol

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why do all my tinfoils always feel like they suck like 5 minutes after i out them lmao

Lol this slot is locktown

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I have too many TRs, my read on srckz should be a legit scumread.

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T -> S at the training camp: Ydrasse, chrom, dunn, emily, isis

VOTE: srckz I feel like my reasons for townreading this slot mostly involve me liking unwnd and/or being pocketed. And the idea of 2 scum being at the camp seems tough to swallow.

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Who do you feel makes more sense as an emily partner?

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People who know dunn how towny is he exactly

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UNVOTE:

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I don't see a reason to out whether I have the tracker shot.

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Those are different heads

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I got my second covid shot and am tired but I'm wondering if there's a reason to shoot johnny that's not to frame me/cakez

Like cakez could shoot johnny and then try to push me but that's not happening obviously

The me/cakez isn't getting as much support as I'd expect if scum tried to frame us

Maybe it's just emily/dunn or w/e. Idk

Cakez keeps feeling scummy to me but

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I think it could easily be a case where 1 of them is scum, and johnny was killed because their flip would otherwise clear the dungeon-goers + guillo prepper (because someone died at night), or/and as MT said keep the pool of 5 wide if there's 1 outside who is looking to play the deep wolf

Hmm maybe

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Chrome's tinfoil on Ydrasse came across as believable to me, this hop on did not make as much sense. I suppose my question would be what was shady about the switch

This was my original thing that made me consider Emily as a possibility so it is worthwhile to talk about just for a moment i promise

This is somewhat convincing to me

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Hi I'm still tired and can't process mech but I'm here I guess

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Ydrasse, chromium, I'm getting there on tweet tbh

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I'm not sure if it's Emily/x or srckz/x, my gut says srckz but tweet makes a lot of sense

I felt like unwnd saying "trust me I went to the dungeon" is something scum who went to the dungeon would say

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The monty-hall thing is: If we eliminate Infinity and they flip scum, you'd be more likely to be scum because other possibilities would close and it becomes a situation where either it was 1-1, or it was 0-2; 2-0 would no longer be an option, mechanically

I don't think this is the same as Monty hall because 1-1 becomes more likely too

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then why are you stuck on it? you should understand that it was not something everyone was thinking about then.

-cake

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i already SR you and infinity. why would I not think this is what happened?

I think this is a scumpost. Scum think a lot more than town about how their posts are perceived, and this feels like emily thought that her position of a me/srckz scumteam would seem logical and is surprised that sircakez disagrees. Town would more likely jump to a "here was my thought process" explanation.

That's like a 4/10 explanation

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Gut says isis is town

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I think this is a scumpost. Scum think a lot more than town about how their posts are perceived, and this feels like emily thought that her position of a me/srckz scumteam would

logically follow from her stated reads

and is surprised that sircakez disagrees. Town would more likely jump to a "here was my thought process" explanation.

That's like a 4/10 explanation

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Why am I scum

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I don't see where I dumbposted, I have clear understanding of the matter

By the way, this game has me dispirited right now

:( Don't be dispirited

You read me correctly which is good

Not many people can do that

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Tweet who's the scum in {dunn, isis, ydrasse, chromium}

I'm scared they're all too towny

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Why am I scum

Mostly because I feel everyone else other than You/SrCkz/Ydrasse are fairly townie and also I think Isis has better than rand read-rate on your slot.

Ok but isis only has 1 game of experience reading me (unless you count matrix decipher and she was wrong there)

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:( Don't be dispirited

You read me correctly which is good

Not many people can do that

do you think it's difficult to townread you when you're town?

*looks left*

*looks right*

Yes

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I foresee Emily's hypothetical partner joining the srckz wagon -- silently as the way Isis has or in a more analytical way as Dunn has, I dunno. Dunny came across as somewhat genuine to me.

pedit: Well, what have you found primarily towny about Dunn and Isis? I agree strongly with Ydrasse/Chrome as is -- Isis/Dunn i have identified towny parts but not with the same intensity

Isis isn't trying to look town right? I was thinking she's maybe lazy scum but she prides herself on her scumgame and it feels like a scum!isis isn't really trying

Dunn I'm sheeping isis and unwnd, I don't know how to read dunn. Maybe they're wrong and/or a scumbuddy

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Hm, I see your point with regards to Isis. I have seen scum!Isis lose motivation due to the workings of a setup in the past (purgatory) -- although i cannot remember if it showed up heavily in her gameplay. She was displeased in scum PT at least i noticed. I do feel anyone can be demotivated while playing in their stronger alignment even if they do have a good towngame or scumgame. Could see it even more if say the growing threat of mechanics screwing scum were making it frustrating ((disclaimer i have no idea if this is the case im barely paying attention to mechanics))

Yeah but I know what demotivated scum!isis looks like and I feel like I could identify it

Scum!isis here would have to be like, motivated enough to present her reads in a towny way and be emotionally towny but not enough to come up with towny thoughts. Whereas normally when she's demotivated as scum the presentation and emotion are scummy but the towny thoughts are still there. That's probably why I gut townread her

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Would you ever make this post as scum but that'd be salt to the wound if my read wasn't right

I think I could but I'd feel bad about it. I have to be able to make any post I'd make as town as scum because otherwise it's trust tell territory

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*looks left*

*looks right*

Yes

I don't think this is accurate.

This is a pretty absurd take if you've played with me before, I'm widely scumread d1 in like 70% of my towngames

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Not only do people keep misreading me now I'm being told they don't keep misreading me

Sigh just make sure to adjust next time

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Meh I'm still undecided.

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it doesn’t make sense for one of you to be scum w outside partner because that’s a risk a59/59 hoping that the other person gets flipped

Like dunn said, if srckz is scum with isis for example and they killed you and srckz flipped, then me and tweet would be conftown.

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Unwndd you're in a hydra

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Ok but log in to your hydra account

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VOTE: Emily

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Tweetie is convincing and unwnd's emotion feels as genuine as it's gonna get. I could be wrong but I feel like you are more likely scum atp.

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Ok I don't really care at this point

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It did take time, I was thinking about it all last night and I was already leaning towards unwnd's emotional posting being genuine

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It's very different, the only similarity is that it's emotional posting.

To me it's like, I could just ignore all the genuine emotions because unwnd is good at scum but at some point I have to just play the game

Imo his emotions require him being town to be genuine much more so than they did in guardians. Here he's frustrated about people misreading him, there he was frustrated about having difficulty engaging with the conversation.

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Can you first point me to where unwnd was frustrated about people scumreading him there, I don't remember it that clearly and that part didn't much contribute to my TR on him

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So how is it that you are townreading him on his geniune AtE when you literally just saw him do this as scum a few days ago?

Again, it was a very different situation and I think unwnd was genuine there about having difficulty engaging with the mechanics but you can't be genuine as scum when you're frustrated about people misreading you.

If it's fake emotion whatever unwnd is too good

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You literally saw him fake AtE his way to a scum win.

and you see him doing more AtE this game

and your response is, oh he's too good I have to townread him for it?

How is that a cogent line of thought!?

Imo it was genuine, I think I remember unwnd saying something to that effect, he can correct me if I'm wrong

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If srckz is scum just lim me. This conversation is dumb

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Emily it's pretty frustrating engaging with you because you're refusing to get my points either intentionally or not. If you're town here you need to make some serious adjustments because you clearly don't get how I think and at a certain point it's not my responsibility to spoonfeed it to you.

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Also, srckz isn't locktown, I never said they're locktown, I do townread them though.

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adamantly

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Fine I'll quote but I already explained my reasoning and how it's different from guardians which you don't seem to be acknowledging at all

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If it didn't convince you that should be the end of the conversation right? I have nothing else to offer.

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I think koba is scum and I don't care if they get mad or if cakez disagrees with me

Doesn't care to do anything and pretty much flatlined since today

I hate the behavior, I hate the vote on me

I feel stronger about this if you're just town

If you're just town then Koba scum

If you're scum I dunno? Need to think

I hope koba tunnels me even harder I don't really give a fuck at this point

When I make those posts I don't think I am emotionally attuned

I make them because I'm being honest with you and giving you my slice of reality

Like what you do you want me to do? Lie? I'm gonna flip town lol

Maybe you and everyone else just think the things I say is really convincing so you think it's AtE because you're appealed to by it

Dunno

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then you can give me shit in the dead thread about being a moron or w/e

I'm sorry I'm so tunneled but you really haven't posted anything that makes me think you're town and lots of other people have :<

Why would I do that, I don't like being mislimmed but I would never let it decide my feelings in that way. I think you've been pleasant to be around and that's what is making everything more harder to unravel for me. Your pleasantness in my eyes could be a farce? It's a bit of a harrowing thought if I'm being honest. Your pleasantry is what I initially liked/townread, but your coarseness with me makes me doubt. It just feels like you're moving towards an objective that has been set up for this day. Do you really think me/Inf are scum here who would make the great plan of..incriminating ourselves? That kill doesn't happen if I'm scum, I shoot Ydra here everytime.

That's another aspect that really gives me pause and uncertainty. I wish I had the proper answers to that one.

I need to make this objectively clear

I will flip town

It will be green

You better have a good idea of what's next with that in mind

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Emily I'm sorry for lashing out at you I'm in a bad mood and this game has been tough for me

I don't feel like I have a good explanation for you though. If you're not convinced by my explanation I'm ok with you scumreading me. It's part of the game.

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*hugs*

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Does Emily/dunn not work

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I should use my tracker tonight yeah?

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If I had a tracker it would affect night actions since we can't multitask

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Koba why can't Emily/dunn or Emily/isis be the team

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Koba why can't Emily/dunn or Emily/isis be the team

its simple.
i dont see emily as scum.

why

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Tweet almost saved an unwinnable towngame she's very sheepable

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Unwnd btw I don't know about others but I use AtE to mean just emotional posting and it's not good or bad or towny or scummy. Pretty far from the original definition I know but terminology changes over time

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<3 hope you feel better

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I feel like it's pretty obvious from how she talks and how she knows all of us

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Why are we wagoning isis?

If it's not emily/srckz I still think isis is townier than dunn for example

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if I get mislimmed I assume it's my fault 100% of the time

It's like 20% your fault and 80% everyone else's fault

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when did infinity first out she had the tracker shot? i'm unsure if it was directly after mt posted her night actions plan or not but if it was i think that's +scum to do, because saying "i have the tracker shot should i use it" right after being directed to do x or y is like a get out of jail free card to perform a kill and just lie after.

Why would I not do the same thing as town, it affects the night action plan and I'm not just gonna nope out after being told to go to the dungeon

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I think almost anyone in this game could've realized that it was correct to kill johnny

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I haven't considered no killing

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You are just as capable if not more Emily

That's what I can't help but feel slightly bothered you're not seeing me as town here lol

You are just as capable if not more EmilyThat's what I can't help but feel slightly bothered you're not seeing me as town here lol

you feel exactly the same way as you felt in the guardians game unfortunately :(

I am also very easily tunnelvisioned into things when I'm town so >.>

might just be hangover effects from that game lasting into this one.

This feels like a scumpost

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I've been frustrated this game with my attempts to explain reads, maybe if I feel like it tomorrow

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perhaps im showing my hand now a bit more than i'd like but its come to the phase where push comes to pull and i need these answers

Well if you wanted to keep your cards close to your chest you could've just checked my ISO

I townread isis but she's my 4th strongest townread at this point

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Despite what I said earlier about Inf I think the way she has approached Isis in the last page is a headscratcher. I could follow your convictions on Koba, but I don't know where Isis deserved the TR, especially threatening you with a scumread and all

It's not a strong TR, but I think she's doing a good job of presenting her thoughts to seem like she believes them if scum. Them being hard to understand is weakly town-indicative because the only reason for scum to have towny thoughts is in order to present them.

This still applies for my isis read

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Hm, I see your point with regards to Isis. I have seen scum!Isis lose motivation due to the workings of a setup in the past (purgatory) -- although i cannot remember if it showed up heavily in her gameplay. She was displeased in scum PT at least i noticed. I do feel anyone can be demotivated while playing in their stronger alignment even if they do have a good towngame or scumgame. Could see it even more if say the growing threat of mechanics screwing scum were making it frustrating ((disclaimer i have no idea if this is the case im barely paying attention to mechanics))

Yeah but I know what demotivated scum!isis looks like and I feel like I could identify it

Scum!isis here would have to be like, motivated enough to present her reads in a towny way and be emotionally towny but not enough to come up with towny thoughts. Whereas normally when she's demotivated as scum the presentation and emotion are scummy but the towny thoughts are still there. That's probably why I gut townread her

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Anyone want to talk about anything?

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Vote someone

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Isis you said it was scummy for me to weight your early game highly in my townread of you and then when asked what you did towny you quoted a bunch of your early game posts.

I get that you were gonna keep going but those posts are still towny and my read doesn't need to be a bad recency biased read to be genuine

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I guess I'll vote dunn but I mostly just want to elim Emily

Maybe srckz are crafty and doing some weird scum maneuvering but I think their recent rethinking of the game seems genuine. I might be ok letting them live until endgame. The cakez head is also townier than he was before

Ydrasse paranoia increased because of a marathon but she still passes the "is ydrasse obvtown" test which has been consistent in sorting her up until now. I'd like her to post more though.

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Blobhyperthink

Is this a response

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She's town

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I'm not really sure why you expected me to vote isis given that this whole conversation was about my townread on isis

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How do you say this and think "hm my townread here is correct "

Is there a reason scum!isis feels like calling my townread on her scummy and then saying she's town for the same reasons? I don't see why this would change my read at all

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Okay but if town!Isis believes her early game to be towny for her then why did she find your early game townread of her scummy

Lol I asked her the same question

I don't think there's any world in which this is scum!indicative though

I interpreted her renewed scumread of me to be related to more recent stuff (e.g. the way I restated the townread on her)

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Lol yes??? Wtf?

Why lmao just quote other posts or don't call me scummy that would be an incredibly dumb scum move

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Like u literally caught a scumslip and said it out loud and then are like "NAH theyre town lol"

are u reading the game you're playing in??

I wonder sometimes

Contradictions are +town as a rule though

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Why are you acting like there was some magical force pushing scum!isis to have a "real" scumread on me when I was already PoE scum to her

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I'm a known apologist for players I do not believe are members of the mafia

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towncase her if youre that confident shes town.

You're not getting any more than you got when you asked the same question yesterday

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Despite what I said earlier about Inf I think the way she has approached Isis in the last page is a headscratcher. I could follow your convictions on Koba, but I don't know where Isis deserved the TR, especially threatening you with a scumread and all

It's not a strong TR, but I think she's doing a good job of presenting her thoughts to seem like she believes them if scum. Them being hard to understand is weakly town-indicative because the only reason for scum to have towny thoughts is in order to present them.

This still applies for my isis read

Hm, I see your point with regards to Isis. I have seen scum!Isis lose motivation due to the workings of a setup in the past (purgatory) -- although i cannot remember if it showed up heavily in her gameplay. She was displeased in scum PT at least i noticed. I do feel anyone can be demotivated while playing in their stronger alignment even if they do have a good towngame or scumgame. Could see it even more if say the growing threat of mechanics screwing scum were making it frustrating ((disclaimer i have no idea if this is the case im barely paying attention to mechanics))

Yeah but I know what demotivated scum!isis looks like and I feel like I could identify it

Scum!isis here would have to be like, motivated enough to present her reads in a towny way and be emotionally towny but not enough to come up with towny thoughts. Whereas normally when she's demotivated as scum the presentation and emotion are scummy but the towny thoughts are still there. That's probably why I gut townread her

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We're legitimately reading a different game

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/shrug you're probably wrong

VOTE: dunn

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YOUR OWN FUCKING POV INFINITY. WHY ARE YOU LEFT ALIVE OVER JOHNNY

I can get mislimmed and johnny wouldnt? Lol

NKA is not, like, hard evidence or something

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Is anyone opposed to throwing out one of Isis/Dunn then sending other to dungeon if they're town?

I guess this is fine?

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No

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No

your evidence sucks.

I don't really give a shit that you think my reasons suck, everyone thinks my reasons suck, but my job is to correctly identify town and mafia and I believe I've done that.

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That's a fair point tweet

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Koba if in wrong on isis who's her partner

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VOTE: Emily

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Do you think it's like isis/dunn atp? Or what

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I'm stuck voting you because you're the only viable scum candidate for me

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Tweet is town
Ydrasse is town
Chrom are town
Isis is town
Srckz probably town

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you think I'm scum by myself?

For sure

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If I had to guess the scumteam right now, yeah

I'm probably wrong on a TR but fuck if I know which one

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do you even care which one you are wrong about?

Yes

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Johnny was not killed for his reads

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Emily I'm not going to convince you I'm town. If you're looking for some magical sign that I'm actually solving the game, you're not getting anything more than what's in the thread.

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Do you just want me to unvote you? Is that what you want?

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It's literally all in the thread.

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You're the one that told me to kill alisae who hard TRed me

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I just don't get what you're trying to accomplish from this interaction. I'm never living until endgame. Do you think scum!me is going to pull some magic and escape the elim/dungeon for multiple day phases? I'm not even trying to stay alive.

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You're the one that told me to kill alisae who hard TRed me

every person in the game hard TR'd you

Flea and andres didn't lol

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Ok I just hate constantly being told I'm lying is what it comes down t

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I am telling you right now you will not get anything more out of me than what I've already given you. I am not going to convince you I'm town if I haven't already. I can't control whether you scumread me at the end of the day, all I can do is give you my thoughts which I've given a million times already

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I just don't get why you keep trying to go through this when it's so clearly not productive, it feels more like you want to look like you're sorting

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UNVOTE:

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I don't understand how you play scum, never have, and I don't know why you think I understand it. We had many conversations in help isis where I just didn't understand your logic for certain kills or certain approaches to the game and it took a long time for you to explain it to me

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like why would scum me not just push sc dead and then push someone else dead the next day to win?

you literally saw me push 3 straight mis-elims why would scum me suddenly think she can't push 2 mis elims?

You don't get cred for saying this unless you actually go through with it

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if i didnt go thru with the self-vig I'd be guranteed elimination on the next day wouldn't I?

You never actually committed at EoD so no

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I'm done with this interaction and was done with it before it began

This feels like the AtE you used at the end of help isis but I know you'd do the same thing as town

It really doesn't help me sort you, it's not helping you sort me, it's not fun, it's not productive at all and I don't know why you're continuing to post

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doesn't it feel like Emily is being genuine when she says she wouldn't have performed the kill?

Yes but I feel like it's in pooky's scumrange still

Idk.

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That's not true at all I can't read you for shit

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Maybe not

I'm not really sure what the logic would be there

I'll say that it doesn't feel right

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I literally unvoted you I'm not stretching anything

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Maybe true. Probably true even. Do you think scum Emily bothers to have this spat with you when there's no chance the elim is getting flipped onto you today?

Ok, the logic would be to get me to vote somewhere else and swing the elim onto cakez/dunn/isis

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Read my posts please

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You know most of my scumreads are PoE and you know how sticky my townreads are when I believe in them

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I think I could get isis limmed in that spot

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you think you can flip your TR on isis to an SR and somehow push that through?

"Isis was towny early on, but she's good at doing that as scum. In the past (ss3 for example) she didn't keep up her motivation as scum past d1, and her reads start to feel hollow. They feel similar here. I still can't see ydrasse, chrom or tweet as scum, and srckz are starting to feel towny, so vote: isis"

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I'm just saying I could've voted isis if I needed to

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VOTE: Emily

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Is tweet Australian? She should be asleep if so

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VOTE: dunn I take no responsbility

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yall see how fucking easy it was to get votes here?

There's 2 hours to deadline lol

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why would isis suicide if dunn is town

If she's scum she won't and then we elim her

Don't go to the dungeon

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If I'm scum with srckz then y'all just elim us if dunn and isis both flip town

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So I'm sorry if i got it wrong that's my bad, but it really felt like i was doing it on my own even before now when Im literally given the elimination to do on my own

Yeah I think this is very fair

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Ydrassssse

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Easiest backup mod gig ever. :P

sorry for the awful shit-tunnel unwnd/infy/cakey <3

Np, I was equally bad at reading you