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[Morning Tweet]

I wonder if Emily lashing out at Infinity for this vote and attempting to get Infy killed after her is a town sign

...

I will explain it again, if you were to shoot a consensus townread player inside of the camp you will confirm one or more scum players are inside of the camp group (of now 4 players). That also means if a scum inside of srckz/infy/morning/johnny dies -- ALL of the survivors are hard cleared. Or, if there are two scum in the camp, it confirms 1+ scum within a group of now only 4 players. It's a bad play for them. Killing inside of the dungeon leaves the possibility of 0 scum in the camp open. It's perfect.

The scumteam saw this and realized that they were forced to kill within srckz/Johnny/Infinity. Now, what do you prioritize more: 6-7 players scumreading Infy/srckz OR 1 player (Johnny) having somebody on the scumteam low on his

day zero

readslist?

Yeah -- you should kill Johnny. Scum is aware of this. Chromium definitely was not. Cakes did not seem to get it at all to me (at start of this day).

Emily understood that srckz/infy could have allowed Johnny to die in the dungeon but seems to not really see why the kill was forced. Perhaps it's genuine.

Isis and Dunn are both not in my townreads, have played this day apathetically like Infy/srckz/Emily elims were just winning for them (or at least 2 were!), and are both capable of seeing this Johnny kill. Things do start to add up after a while..

[Emily]

You saw me get on the "coalition" and then

You saw me get three straight mis-elims to cruise to a win.

You know what I am capable of doing as scum.

You really think I would offer the town a 1 for 1 trade on SRCkz by offering to self-vig in a dungeon if he flipped town?

Like I don't see why town!you would think scum!me would do that.

I really don't

You know what my scum game looks like.

[Infinity 324]

UNVOTE:

[Emily]

like why would scum me not just push sc dead and then push someone else dead the next day to win?

you literally saw me push 3 straight mis-elims why would scum me suddenly think she can't push 2 mis elims?

[Morning Tweet]

and are both capable of seeing this Johnny kill. Things do start to add up after a while..

amendment to be exact: not only capable but also they seemed to more or less understand it from the get-go whereas some players had genuine periods of getting to understand it

You could fake a progression of understanding it over time but it'd take effort to be convincing. Chrome and Cakez did come across as convincing to me.

Emily i do somewhat believe wouldn't go for the Johnny play if left to her own devices, she'd probably play the more traditional way killing whoever her biggest dayplay threat is.

In fact, you could probably analyze who exactly would do that rather than break the setup mechanically. I do really foresee Isis or Dunn being the one who figured it out, though

[Infinity 324]

I don't understand how you play scum, never have, and I don't know why you think I understand it. We had many conversations in help isis where I just didn't understand your logic for certain kills or certain approaches to the game and it took a long time for you to explain it to me

[Infinity 324]

like why would scum me not just push sc dead and then push someone else dead the next day to win?

you literally saw me push 3 straight mis-elims why would scum me suddenly think she can't push 2 mis elims?

You don't get cred for saying this unless you actually go through with it

[Emily]

if i didnt go thru with the self-vig I'd be guranteed elimination on the next day wouldn't I?

[Infinity 324]

if i didnt go thru with the self-vig I'd be guranteed elimination on the next day wouldn't I?

You never actually committed at EoD so no

[Emily]

I don't understand how you play scum, never have, and I don't know why you think I understand it. We had many conversations in help isis where I just didn't understand your logic for certain kills or certain approaches to the game and it took a long time for you to explain it to me

you don't have to understand everything I do.

you understand what I am capable of doing and what I do in this type of game state.

It isn't to offer a 1-1 trade, that's not advancing my win-condition if I were scum here.

[Emily]

if i didnt go thru with the self-vig I'd be guranteed elimination on the next day wouldn't I?

You never actually committed at EoD so no

I don't even propose it if I'm scum.

If it is followed I will 100% commit to self-vigging or it's a scum claim tommorrow.

[Infinity 324]

I'm done with this interaction and was done with it before it began

This feels like the AtE you used at the end of help isis but I know you'd do the same thing as town

It really doesn't help me sort you, it's not helping you sort me, it's not fun, it's not productive at all and I don't know why you're continuing to post

[Morning Tweet]

It is really interesting to me, i found Emily's approach to srckz/infy as suspicious earlier and now again i see it in a different way.. she easily saw the reasoning for why srckz/Infy could have done the kill, yes --- but doesn't it feel like Emily is being genuine when she says she wouldn't have performed the kill? She doesn't acknowledge that it was optimal for the non srckz/Infy teams..

This is muddied a bit if maybe her scumpartner orchestrated it and she left them to their own devices, but, oh well. I don't think it was her idea to kill Johnny, i believe it

Moving further, does this interaction with Infinity come off as a desperation move to get Infy killed (or look LAMIST) or does it come off like she's trying to get Infy killed after her?

Trying to get Infy killed over her right now would be pointless, that's never going to happen. Trying to appear okay with dying, maybe I guess, that is possible. The swap from suspecting srckz into suspecting Infy that seems to have just been brought upon by this vote by Infy comes across as somewhat believable to me

[Emily]

I'm fine with trading for either of them or either of them committing to a self-vig to trade for me

[Morning Tweet]

You really think I would offer the town a 1 for 1 trade on SRCkz by offering to self-vig in a dungeon if he flipped town?

Like I don't see why town!you would think scum!me would do that.

I'm confused why you're unloading all of this onto Infinity specifically by the way. I don't know if Infy has even commented specifically on why you're scum other than PoE. And PoE doesn't consider stuff like this

[Emily]

I can go first or they can go first I don't even care anymore

[Infinity 324]

doesn't it feel like Emily is being genuine when she says she wouldn't have performed the kill?

Yes but I feel like it's in pooky's scumrange still

Idk.

[Emily]

I'm confused why you're unloading all of this onto Infinity specifically by the way. I don't know if Infy has even commented specifically on why you're scum other than PoE. And PoE doesn't consider stuff like this

because I should be the easiest person for her to townread

[Emily]

she literally just played a game with scum!me

[Infinity 324]

That's not true at all I can't read you for shit

[Emily]

you should know I don't trade 1 for 1 with town

[Morning Tweet]

doesn't it feel like Emily is being genuine when she says she wouldn't have performed the kill?

Yes but I feel like it's in pooky's scumrange still

Idk.

Maybe true. Probably true even. Do you think scum Emily bothers to have this spat with you when there's no chance the elim is getting flipped onto you today?

[Emily]

I'm sorting infinity for myself

its more and more obvious she should be TRing me here

she isn't

therefore she is scum

[Infinity 324]

Maybe not

I'm not really sure what the logic would be there

I'll say that it doesn't feel right

[Emily]

she's really stretching to maintain that SR on me

its not motivated by townie trying to catch bad guys

its a scum that has nowhere left to go