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like it implies that there’s somehow a chance its townie in this setup to setup spec.
realistically, the only setup spec that actually matters is
if it’s better to townhunt or scumhunt the whole game
bc trying to switch between both seems like a bit much.
also, ur reaction to my e-2 vote is interesting and i wanna think abt it.
VOTE: Oclaxian Empire For
nitpicking
and
creating a false dichotomy
.
Personally I think we should scumhunt on days we will be sending people to hell and townhunt on days we will be sending people to heaven, and that people's preferences on this don't really matter all that much. I say take the approach that works best for you.
I also thought Arko's 'reaction' was another NAI thing, and your approach here seems a bit forced.
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Post #59 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:43 am
Postby BloodB0t »
@Oclaxian I think overall the degree of precision that someone posts with is mostly NAI, there are tons of people who seem to operate entirely on vague vibes as either alignment. I don't see how Arko saying setup spec is "technically NAI" is something to push against. Do you have a meta read on Arko? Is omgus AI? I think I've seen it more from town but I don't consider it very AI.
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Post #66 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:51 am
Postby BloodB0t »
Maybe an imprecise use of words could be construed to be more townie, since it could indicate the poster is more careless, and scum tends to be more careful about everything?
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Post #71 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:55 am
Postby BloodB0t »
Yeah I don't think meta reads are good in general but I didn't see any reason get a read from 'technically' so I thought maybe it was something meta related. Some people lean on meta reads though, and Oclaxian mentioned that I never played with them before so I thought they could have been a meta reader.
Well for a start you're not scum with Arko so if you're scum, Arko's not.
But even if you're town, Arko's the towniest slot in the game to me rn. I vibe hard with Arko.
Why is OE not scum with Arko? Anything more to your TR on Arko? He's been your top TR even before the the interaction with OE. So I guess that was just vibes?
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Post #217 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:14 am
Postby BloodB0t »
VOTE: Ranger
The burden of proof is on the person making a claim, we think you're claiming that Arko is town without giving enough proof. The first thing you mentioned about your Arko read, you said it was from vibes, and Arko has always remained your top town read. Was there anything beyond "vibes" that made you initially have him as your top town read?
In post 214, Ranger wrote:
I believe that being the last post before going to bed shows an insanely +town mindset
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Post #243 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:36 am
Postby BloodB0t »
In post 227, Arko wrote:
BB's scum trying to get me sent to hell
This is interesting. I don't really have a strong read on you, don't recall saying much about you other than saying I suspected everyone for TRing you early while I was still not getting anything AI from you. I'd say you're very slightly townie atp. I just don't like Ranger's posts about you or Ox.
@ranger Fwiw, I wouldn't mind if "vibes" was the only reason to townread Arko. My question was just open-ended and not meant to imply guilt for having a read only based on vibes, I just wondered if that was the only reason for the initial read. I don't like the reaction to that question though.
In post 234, Ranger wrote:
BloodB0t: Why have you not commented on my Oclaxian Empire read and case?
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Post #246 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:40 am
Postby BloodB0t »
In post 228, Ranger wrote:
I feel it is also very telling slots who were previously suspect of each other (BloodB0t literally called Oclaxian Empire scum and wrote a case on them, Vanderscamp literally agreed with my conclusion in 89 of OE not being scum with Arko, and they have all banded together onto me, clinging to the same argument.
Reads can change. Especially from people who have limited information.
In post 217, BloodB0t wrote:Ranger wrote: ↑Today, 3:53 pm
I believe that being the last post before going to bed shows an insanely +town mindset
Can you elaborate on this?
I already did. I deliberately didn't reiterate because I had told you to read my posts in good faith, because had you, you'd have seen where I had.
Sorry, I'm bad with walls of text. Can you just sum it up quickly for my simple brain?
In post 248, Ranger wrote:
BloodB0t wrote: ↑10 minutes ago
I just don't like Ranger's posts about you or Ox.
And what issues do you take with those takes specifically?
They seem overly complicated and defensive, and like I said earlier, coming from a perspective of TMI. I don't get the feeling of progression on them as I might from a townie trying to sort. Seems more like trying to justify previously made decisions than trying to sort.
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Post #271 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:46 am
Postby BloodB0t »
In post 260, Ranger wrote:
BloodB0t wrote: ↑30 minutes ago
Sorry, I'm bad with walls of text. Can you just sum it up quickly for my simple brain?
My posts are far from being walls of text. They already are summaries.
I'm disinclined to follow the request when the summation was already given, repeatedly.
I'm searching your ISO for "last post" and "bed" and not seeing anything come up.
Can you please just answer these two yes or no questions?: Are you indeed saying that the
fact
the post was the
last one made before bed
makes it +town for you?
@Everyone else: Does this assertion make any kind of sense I might be missing? (To me it being the last post is also NAI, and I don't understand how that could make it "insanely +town".)
@Ranger: Or were you just referring to the content of the last post being +town for you?
In post 270, Vanderscamp wrote:
I think if Ranger is scum their read on Arko is more likely to be scum defending a town than a partner.
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Post #310 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:40 am
Postby BloodB0t »
I think the setup is townsided because it has a history of 5 town wins and 1 mafia win. I wouldn't be able to tell by looking at the mechanics of it. That being said, I'm not sure what we gain by knowing it's townsided. Does that mean we shouldn't try as hard?
In post 299, Bellaphant wrote:
Bloodbot, struggling to read you too: can you throw a question or thought at me?
I don't have much to say, other than to ask for your thoughts behind:
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Post #352 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:45 am
Postby BloodB0t »
Bella's math derpiness seems genuine and towny to me, but I don't think Kowahbunga is +scum for SRing it. I didn't like 311 and 312 though.
I'm also feeling wary of Aisa but not sure if it's from the afterglow of chatgpt. Her vote on me certainly doesn't help. @Aisa can you say a little bit more about why you're SRing me?
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Post #357 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:07 pm
Postby BloodB0t »
I TRed Drew at the start of ChatGPT in the midst of people throwing shade at him, and kept that TR for the whole game (while dead), I was surprised he was limmed the last day.
I like Aisa's spoilered wall but that kind of scares me because I liked a lot of what her hydra was saying in ChatGPT.
The reason why I like Aisa's wall and not Ranger's walls is because I find Aisa's easier to read, with a natural (towny?) flow to it, but Ranger's walls seem to have a high potential of being filled with intentional red herrings by virtue of being overly complicated.
In post 352, BloodB0t wrote:
@Aisa can you say a little bit more about why you're SRing me?
