In post 298, Bellaphant wrote:
I can't work out my read on aisa at all: I thought vibed obv!town, then I was weirdes out about them being so strange about granting a town read, then town again, then I disliked their jumping in fully with ranger, but their response was vibe town again. The thing that's bothering me about their recent posting though is that it feels quite ...self conscious?
Saying "vibed obvtown" then reevaluating seems more towny than not
Fair, think I'm just in my head a bit about the set up, as it seems fairly town sided but with slightly less info to go on than normal? I don't think I've played nightless before.
In post 177, Ranger wrote:[...]
As for Arko, I've vibed with them from the beginning. First page was just vibes of rvs + liking their mechtalk; the townread started in earnest from 26. Specifically,
In post 26, Arko wrote:Also- I'm betting now that one of the non-posters is a sinner. the other 2 are probably within this group of 7 though as you could probably obviously tell.
I loved this thought process.
I liked the engagement in 41.
I liked the sentiment of 43/48/61/65. 54 is an approach I feel comes from a town mindset.
The explanation of 69 is an approach which is nai, but the context of sharing it makes me lean town. (Someone explaining their philosophy is nai in of itself. The context behind explaining the philosophy can be ai, in this case, +town.)
I felt 118 was a good approach upon returning to the thread. 154 is not a scum post.
There's good reason Arko's my top townread.
Near as I can tell, there's no reason for Arko to be scum.
Yeahhhh you know what, these are good points. Arko gets my townread!
Are they good points?
Did you click on any of the posts that Ranger linked to see which posts they were talking about?
This is a genuine question, I'm interested in the answer to this.
I'm interested if you agreed with the reads on all of the individual posts, or just some of them.
I really like this, mainly because I am now skimming rangers posts;)
I don't understand what this post means. What does it mean?
In post 298, Bellaphant wrote:
I can't work out my read on aisa at all: I thought vibed obv!town, then I was weirdes out about them being so strange about granting a town read, then town again, then I disliked their jumping in fully with ranger, but their response was vibe town again. The thing that's bothering me about their recent posting though is that it feels quite ...self conscious?
Saying "vibed obvtown" then reevaluating seems more towny than not
In post 301, Bellaphant wrote:
Fair, think I'm just in my head a bit about the set up, as it seems fairly town sided but with slightly less info to go on than normal? I don't think I've played nightless before.
Also, I think Vanders is saying that you seem towny?
(idk if the setup is town-sided)
The post means that I liked Vander's Sus of you because it felt organic because I was not fully reading rangers posts by then. It means him Ans I are flowing the same, rather than me particularly liking it as Sus against you, if that makes sense
In post 301, Bellaphant wrote:
Fair, think I'm just in my head a bit about the set up, as it seems fairly town sided but with slightly less info to go on than normal? I don't think I've played nightless before.
No night kills for a start, plus 2/7 feels good odds, better than the newbie queue, which is the only other place I play small games. Plus, I really like the idea of scum and town hunting being separate skills and being played out as separate
This bit 'When the number of Sinners and Saints among the Unjudged (alive) players is equal, a Judgement Day occurs, in which all Martyrs decide on a player to send to hell. If that player is a Saint, the Sinners win. If that player is a Sinner, the game moves to a hell phase.' feels scum sided but we'd have to fuck up a fair bit to get there.
I think the setup is townsided because it has a history of 5 town wins and 1 mafia win. I wouldn't be able to tell by looking at the mechanics of it. That being said, I'm not sure what we gain by knowing it's townsided. Does that mean we shouldn't try as hard?
In post 299, Bellaphant wrote:
Bloodbot, struggling to read you too: can you throw a question or thought at me?
I don't have much to say, other than to ask for your thoughts behind:
In post 310, BloodB0t wrote:
I think the setup is townsided because it has a history of 5 town wins and 1 mafia win. I wouldn't be able to tell by looking at the mechanics of it. That being said, I'm not sure what we gain by knowing it's townsided. Does that mean we shouldn't try as hard?
In post 299, Bellaphant wrote:
Bloodbot, struggling to read you too: can you throw a question or thought at me?
I don't have much to say, other than to ask for your thoughts behind:
I'm looking forward to Kowahbunga's thoughts on the game.
My initial thoughts on someone getting the amount of scum wrong leans me scum on them. Because I read the setup more than once to make sure I had it. I feel like most everyone would have done this, or has done this if they've played this setup before. So it feels like manufacturing a town slip to me. My read through was not as productive as I thought it would be and I am trying to just hop in at this point in the game and be in the moment with the game. Something about reading this specific game made me feel like I was missing context of the moment, which I didn't expect considering I think I joined at 12 pages.
Hello... I guess. I'm tired.
I'm not really finding much motivation and fun in this setup. 5v3 is feeling kinda bad to play in, personally. Pure Dayplay 5v3 to be specific.
But I'll continue to soldier on for like another day or two.
I have no reads really, this game hasn't been fun to me, and is on the backburner and will most likely be sent further into the backburner.
Oh well, I'll read it when I come home. Maybe I can actually get something done?
Insert an uncreative signature here. Maybe one day, maybe one day. Well at least it has colour. Now pink and bold :3
The post means that I liked Vander's Sus of you because it felt organic because I was not fully reading rangers posts by then. It means him Ans I are flowing the same, rather than me particularly liking it as Sus against you, if that makes sense
I was talking about you, I thought saying that was town from you.
In post 301, Bellaphant wrote:
Fair, think I'm just in my head a bit about the set up, as it seems fairly town sided but with slightly less info to go on than normal? I don't think I've played nightless before.
Why do you think it feels town sided?
This reads REALLY bad, I feel like it's way too late in the game to care about these questions.
In post 118, Arko wrote:
Morning. UNVOTE:
Ok... 3 Votes on ox already is way too quick. It took you guys only like 12 hours past my original vote. plus, BB was against ox too so they might of voted/hammered also. That's way too quick for a game with 3 scum vs 6.
Not sure I buy this panic tbh
If scum orchestrated a quick hammer on someone at e-2 are they not just handing us the easy win since we only need to send 2 of them to hell?
Also it’s weird to me that you were focusing on ox making e-2 quickly when you were also at e-2 at the time and in fact still are?
Yes I'm E-2. I can't change that. It's bad. However, I could change ox being E-2. So I did. Found it too early when we have so much time left. If they end up acting scummier
or they are on track to death
, yes, I may revote them.
What do you mean by the bolded?
Arko, there still is a lonely question seeking answer over here
Day 3 of seeking an answer to this
I'm probably being a little petty because I can barely remember why I cared so much about this in the first place, lol
my posts;
The difference in your perspective is from that. Try reading my posts instead of skimming--not because of the content of my posts, but to understand where Aisa comes from. (That said, actually do read my posts because of their content. :P)
Rest of P12, and all of P13, tomorrow (I hope).
AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgang
"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
Ok, I'm caught up now, or at least I hope I have read all the posts with enough attention.
I can finally address Ranger's case on OE. Let's say the following post is The Case:
Spoiler:
In post 190, Ranger wrote:
{Arko}
{Aisa, Vanderscamp}
{Bellaphant}
{AurorusVox}
{KawaiiKame}
{BloodB0t}
{Oclaxian Empire}
I still vibe with this, but 184 + 185(backed by 176) are huge.
I believe Oclaxian Empire demonstrated a lack of internal consistency in their thoughts. This is
maybe
explainable depending on the individuals who did the posts and their internal communication system. If they weren't talking to each other and if it was two different people in the system posting, it could come from town. So I'm not saying that alone makes a smoking gun.
The scumslip does though. It was possible Oclaxian Empire was simply stating "Yes, I think you're town, who determined my alignment and won't reevaluate".
Was
, but with Oclaxian Empire having denied this as what they meant, and insisting it meant the opposite, meant any benefit of the doubt was removed.
Oclaxian Empire didn't say I
knew
their alignment, accusing me of being scum.
Oclaxian Empire said I
determined
their alignment, which is a slip of the tongue revealing they know I am town.
I disagree with it. In short simply because I think that saying Ranger "determined" OE's alignment, in the context it was first brought up in, was not a slip of the tongue.
This said, I don't think OE's reaction is very reassuring, though I haven't nailed down a read on that slot yet.
Aisa have you commented on my case vs arko regarding the e-2 fiasco?
I don’t like the fact arko has not engaged with this point against him; and instead has retreated into disengagement. It seems this is his MO if Asia having to ask again and again is anything to go by.
Ranger I can’t tell if their “reevaluation” of arko is legit or fabricated to deflect heat from their own position.
Ranger did say they would settle their view on arko after time away from the computer; I’m keen to see the conclusion of that as one away when you’re back from vla
