Micro 1072: Turf Wars | Game Over

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VOTE: oclaxian empire

i distrust alts

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is there any downside to outting neighborhoods?

considering each scum gets a 1 shot roleblock it could inform their night actions i guess but

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Neighbors must also agree on who performs the action, if a target is chosen/agreed upon.

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also when one neighbor dies the other loses their vig

so outting neighborhoods would mean scum can use that info to take town shots away

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VOTE: doctor drew

scum found gg

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why do you think lorne giving an easy town read with little reasoning is town?

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i think rvs is just something that's been around forever to the point where it's taught in our newbie games

i remember being tight with a lot of people here before

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btw drew. can you quit fluffposting, thanks!

VOTE: doctor drew

scum found gg

I like your style

yall wanna hop on the drew wagon?

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can't believe we caught scum page 3 guys

good job

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i'll pretend i'm not hurt a little by that

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I love Lorne's mysterious town read on Patch, no evil muffins for you.

I already said I am feeling a little weird about Lorn snap town reading you for a mysterious reason, but ironically do think you are town spewing.

hrmmm

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my neighbor is def town by the way

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i like lorne for town i think, it's a tone thing i guess and they come across as unreserved

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my neighbor is def town by the way

who

tis a secret

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you can be town too tho

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:shrug: it's page 3

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i can't count

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:shrug: it's page 3

Exactly, so don't throw out townreads yet, it's a recipe for disaster

oh noooo, can't believe i locked myself into a read forever and can't change my mind

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but if the muffins are evil don't you want to give them to your scum reads?

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but ya sorry misread. still voting you tho bc it's kinda fun

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pretty sure sky knows what they're doing too

not rlly but ty

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Looks like it's gonna be one of those games where everyone just kills the lowposters because haha PoE

such pessimism~

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lorne have we played together before

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lorne have we played together before

No, I'm trying to figure out if you're 20 or 40

almost 30 so you're kinda there

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hey, lorne, skygazer, before we lapse into unrelated conversation, what're your takes on aureal and furtive?

both are scum with drew

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aight i'm going to wait for some others to chime in

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It's worth noting that if you're suspecting your partner, them flipping mafia confirms you as town so that's cool

not according to the wiki

VOTE: furtive

for different reasoning than aureal

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as someone who works two/sometimes three jobs, one of them fulltime, i feel like ideally we should have a healthy amount of activity without it being toooo much to keep up with

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7 pages is a lot considering the game has been open 7 hours and 2 ppl havent gotten the chance to post

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(that being said i'll try to cut back on my spam)

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hi i just want you to know that my first post was not a reference to plurality; i wasn't aware until after i had made that post and it's poorly worded in hindsight

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everything is a 50/50, either it happens or it doesn't happen

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i'm having a productive sunday i'll be back on tonight

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catchin up now

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ya

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Please tell me if this is a meme vote, I really can't tell.

ya just trying to generate content

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still reading/note taking

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Oclaxian seems towny so far. I want to elim and shoot in Sky, Lorne, Aureal and KT

Why the Oclaxian TR and Lorne SR?

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Why do you think Sky town?

They feel a little opportunistic by the way they're jumping around on wagons and stuff, especially their furtive vote, but for me, it's just sort of the energy and the vibe. So my opinion can definitely change if someone presents evidence, but for the time being, I think they're town. Also, they have good vibes and I like them for it.

furtive vote was because they came in with mostly fluff and mechanical stuff; seemed like they were trying to appear helpful w/o trying to solve

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although if furtive were scum i think they'd come up with a better reasoning for OMGUSing me than vibes lol so UNVOTE:

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oclaxian comes across as kind of scummy to me bc they're posting a lot but their posting seems very inoffensive? it feels like they're just kind of throwing a lot out there to appear townie but come across as somewhat reserved to me

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goddamn im bad at this game

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not to beat a dead horse but patchwork has this stream of consciousness thing going on that seems hard to replicate as town

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kittytack posting that lorne and patch aren't scum together kinda feels like a take that comes from actually trying to solve so +town

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I think I like patchwork Drew and kitty for town for now? there's some furtive posting i don't like, but i feel like scum are risk averse. omgusing me with such meh reasoning is something that scum might hesitate on doing due to the potential bad optics. lorne is nuller but they did have a strong/bold entrance, but considering they're an alt i should probably assume that what they've posted isn't out of their scumrange. that leaves aureal and oclaxian as my top scummiest i guess, but neither of those reads are very strong right now.

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grim: why does someone coming across as unreserved make u think they might be town?

scum temper their words more, think a lot more about the content of their posts before posting, tend to plan more around having natural trajectories, worry about optics, etc

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i feel like no one else will agree w me on this but VOTE: oclaxian

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in addition to the points i made i feel like if aureal isn't scum then oclaxian's vote is somewhat opportunistic bc even though they made the first vote, it seemed to kind of be consensus/not controversial iirc

:tinfoil hat: and if aureal is scum... bussing?

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ok ya i should sleep tho

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Here’s a genuine question: what do people make of Lorne’s recent posting?

kind of neutral on it, i get the low motivation

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People who say this sort of thing make me sad.

How so? it's not really a firm rule, just something i like to look out for bc that's how my mindset tends towards when i play scum

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oclaxian comes across as kind of scummy to me bc they're posting a lot but their posting seems very inoffensive? it feels like they're just kind of throwing a lot out there to appear townie but come across as somewhat reserved to me

i actually disagree on this
like i get they're not really doing much but i think grim's posting is good and that they're trying to solve, just a little slower. also, grim's voting aureal, but can't really push her because she's just Not Been Here

i mean aureal has "been here"

i feel like oclaxian is posting a lot but the content of their posting leaves a lot to be desired

i feel like aureal is being SRd by a fair amount of ppl which makes oclaxian's vote fairly safe

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just bc im not able to post constantly doesn't mean im not active. i feel like i play forum mafia here bc there's more room to not have to chime in constantly. "bursts of activity" is literally just me finding the time to play lol, i work two jobs, and i feel like when i used to play it was fine to just chime in and make a bunch of posts once or twice per day

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Here’s a genuine question: what do people make of Lorne’s recent posting?

kind of neutral on it, i get the low motivation

wait, where did they say they had low motivation? /gen

here:

I am currently bored by this game, was imagining myself tryharding this game and going on an ISO spree while I was biking, but I don't feel like it

why arent u interested in the game lorne?

Just a mood thing I guess + I'm frankly useless day 1 (or however it longs it takes to flip a mafia)

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I don't get why Sky is scummy to some.

i feel like i always pinged one or two people per game just on tone alone regardless of alignment so i'm used to it

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Oclaxian seems towny so far. I want to elim and shoot in Sky, Lorne, Aureal and KT

Why the Oclaxian TR and Lorne SR?

furtive can u answer

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367 and 368

Did you miss them because patchwork is drowning the thread in complaints about how other people need to Do Something? I'm starting to think that might be their scum game, but I need to eat some dinner and breathe before I try thinking about that too much.

i think scumreading a universally townread player is +town considering the situation aureal is in

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like patchwork is not a viable counterwagon at all given town consensus, why would they try to push patch there as scum

and the frustration reads genuine

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like patchwork is not a viable counterwagon at all given town consensus, why would they try to push patch there as scum

and the frustration reads genuine

by they i mean aureal

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i'm townreading too many people right now unfortunately

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i don't see a tonnnn of scum motivation for what lorne and kitty are doing; they're both drawing heat for it (lurking / not contributing) in a game where town have numerous shots, it'd be kind of not optimal at all

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town

patch
lorne
kitty
aureal
furtive
drew
oclaxian

scum

this is where i'm at tonight

i'm not feeling super confident about it but this is where i'm at

i feel like i stopped liking furtives posts again, liking aureal's, forgot why i was TRing drew, etc

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would any of the ppl scum reading oclaxian care to join me?

i feel like i'm liking aureal more for town and their wagon felt v quick with conflicting justification so i sense some potential opportunism, and i agree with most that patch is obvtown

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u don't feel their frustration is genuine?

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aureal's that is

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Drel: So instead of just accepting you’re being scumread, try to do something so people stop doing so?

Why do you think I'm sitting here throwing irritated spammy posts back and forth with you guys? This is not at all my style and you're frustrating me greatly with your expectations that I should be playing the way you do. It's been two freaking days since the game opened and I guess you expect me to have it solved already or something. Do you not have lives? I'm not an aggressive hyper poster and if you just scumread people for being more patient, deliberate, and thoughtful, you're going to end up being wrong an awful lot.

i mean stuff like this is pretty transparently frustrated...

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and i think ur reasoning is kind of weak (you said they're just kind of there), you said that most of their posts are shitposts, and i feel like that rlly hasnt been the case with aureal for a bit now. so i could see how they would get frustrated with that

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would any of the ppl scum reading oclaxian care to join me?

i feel like i'm liking aureal more for town and their wagon felt v quick with conflicting justification so i sense some potential opportunism, and i agree with most that patch is obvtown

Meh.

I don't like this.

I was actually talking about patch obv town.

i mean theyre kind of spewing town all over the place. overexcited, throwing a lot out there, uninhibited with what they say, i dont see that as scum play

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and i think ur reasoning is kind of weak (you said they're just kind of there), you said that most of their posts are shitposts, and i feel like that rlly hasnt been the case with aureal for a bit now. so i could see how they would get frustrated with that

this was directed at oclaxian

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What about Aureal’s postings comes off as frustration to you?

grim: i think ur scum for that exact reason: i barely remember ur in the game and ur posts just kinda exist. they don't do anything. kt, sky, and lorne at least have done stuff. u've just kinda existed in my eyes.

So let me get this straight. Drew thinks I'm scum because he thinks I'm hard scumreading furtiveglance over a possible scumslip. You think I'm scum because I'm not doing anything.

What even is this. I don't. What.

ur so utr that it makes u scum in my eyes

What's utr?

you literally pushed furtive for a "scumslip" and didn't start any discussion over actual important things afterwards

Trying to pursue leads on scum is not actual important things. Okay. Fine.

oclaxian: these two came across as frustrated and theyre both before you said "you didn't seem frustrated until this post"

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also oclaxian, you're saying that aureal is mostly shitposting (not really true relative to the rest of the players), and "just kind of there" when so many of ur reads are just null without much reasoning... in your eyes uve said uve seen me/kitty/lorne contribute even if we're not "super active" but i think aureal has contributed just as much as the other three you had in that "kinda there" category. it feels like weak reasoning, and ur also not rlly making an effort to solve your nulls even though we've all had some content to look at.

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lmaooooook

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thats so fuckin funny

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i work from 8:30am til like 9:30pm (est) on tuesday nights so i'll be less active on tuesdays by the way

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can maybe phone post from my main gig but at night i lecture so

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Game feels a bit stodgy at the moment. I'm ready to wage war tonight though.

I'm happy with my vote still. Can other people vote? If unsure, vote Skygazer with me.

you have a p weak definition of war

don't rlly have anything to respond to since your publicly stated reasonings are still "vibes"

not gonna try to talk you out of it bc in my past experiences thats just a losing battle when its just a tone/vibe read

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Aureal has TMI on my alignment

Lorne Malvo: I did not like 94, kinda seemed like trying to direct the flow of the game, and the whole conversation about TRing patch to saying not to casually throw out townreads to acting very confident about it reads really oddly- I guess it's a serious read now but for a while there it seemed like some sort of game Lorne was playing

guessing ur referring to the latter half?

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im taking a half day today to watch my friend's dissertation defense; i should have the time/energy to be more active than yesterday tonight

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patch wagon is gross

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I'm happy with my vote still. Can other people vote? If unsure, vote Skygazer with me.

furtive istg can you at least answer my question about what specifically pings you regarding her play
like you've just been dodging it
you can quote some posts that ping you,a t least, that's something u can do. right???

Overall low effort

funny coming from u

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What a dumb rule

the word has an extremely nasty history behind it in my country, where a significant portion of MS users are located, and it costs excatly $0 not to use. don't be a dick

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damn cancel culture strikes again

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/s obviously

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not convinced that's a slip

language is so fucky sometimes, most "slips" like that aren't actually slips

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welcome @ enchant

ye exactly

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drew: i mean look how many ppl have been TRing them, would you rather them not comment on it? being aware that they're townread just means they're paying attention

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i still wanna go for oclaxian tbh

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god this game is hard

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and why is that?

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drew: i mean look how many ppl have been TRing them, would you rather them not comment on it? being aware that they're townread just means they're paying attention

Saying 'I am pretty town read by most' is different then saying 'I am the towniest player here'

i disagree. going back to language, i could easily see the second sentence being meant to imply what you said in the first

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VOTE: Skygazer

at least give me the decency of a dialogue my dude

shit is annoying

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and why is that?

Pretty cool in hood and overall

It's absolutely not fact that i need them to kill someone stopping me i swear

wait you guys are hooded?? you shouldnt be saying that because it lets scum mess with night actiobs...

lol how

Oxcla already said Lorne was their hood mate, it was already out of the bag.

where???

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can u stop being a fucking dick for five fucking minutes and play the goddamn game? u first did this in the fucking hood, where you openly admitted to ignoring me bc u thought "it'd be funny." u now are arguing against a word that has historically been used by

actual fucking hate groups

to describe what they do to that specific fucking minority they hate. it's not a word anyone should ever be using, unless ur a white supremecist, in which case - go away from this site. don't play on here. ur not welcome.

nobody should ever use that word. u said u came from mu or smth? go back to that website where they can bc u clearly aren't fit to be playing on this site in the first place. u should not be playing the game in a way that explicitly makes it a fucking nightmare to play simply bc u find it funny. is that what u do on ur homesite and is allowed? if so, go back to there. we joined this game to have fun, not deal with a literal fucking asshole all fucking game who thinks its funny to be a literal fucking 12 y/o in playing.

the site bans the word. deal with it, or don't play the game.

damn cancel culture strikes again

I mean, you commented about an hour after said post....

whoops lol

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VOTE: Skygazer

at least give me the decency of a dialogue my dude

shit is annoying

You do seem annoyed yh

u wouldn't be?

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furtive feels like scum or bad town but i feel like scum would at least pretend to give reasoning

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aureal kind of disappeared when the pressure was off huh

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i would vote oclaxian, drew, or aureal today. maybe kitty

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am fine w being voted out tbh bc i was never surviving N1 regardless w furtive

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bc i don't think no-elim is the play here

+1

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patch in our neighborhood has been so unadulteratedly townie its not even funny

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Aureal just unnanouncedly E-1'd Sky.

Sorry. Was busy and wasn't very focused here and didn't think of that.

This still isn't my preferred vote but I did find it a little weird how now she seems disappointed that I'm apparently not getting wagoned anymore despite being one of the first people to change their mind and say I was seeming towny?

not disappointed you're not being wagoned; just find it sus you went under the radar as soon as the pressure lifted

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I suppose an Enchant/KT team is possible

I do scumread Sky though

But I respect patchwork's read and I don't want to be too stubborn

oddly enough i am trying to emulate my old scum play bc i tend to be townread more as scum

as scum i tend to be more dismissive of ppl scumreading me bc it'll usually fizzle out, as town i used to be more engaged with ppl's reads on me and try to talk ppl out of it but that tended to make tunnels on me worse

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don't like how drew has been on every major wagon today aside from that lorne quickwagon (aureal, patchwork, myself)

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Skygazer who are you scumreading

too many people tbh but trying to get my dying thoughts out

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maybe oclaxian/drew/aureal for my top 3 scum reads but i'd be shocked if both scum are in there

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kitty is hard to read. furtive i'm kind of townreading at the moment but i've been going back and forth (not sure if that's bc of his tunnel). enchanted seems fine so far. patch is very town.

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maybe oclaxian/drew/aureal for my top 3 scum reads but i'd be shocked if both scum are in there

why oclaxian?

gone into it before, but it just doesn't feel like they're genuinely trying to solve to me ig?

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on the off-chance i can get out of getting yeeted:

VOTE: aureal

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on the off-chance i can get out of getting yeeted:

VOTE: aureal

but you townread her

just said i didn't,,,

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patch u should vote me if there's a risk of no-elim by the way

this gamestate rlly needs a flip

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my head hurts so that's all ur getting from me i think

my confidence in my reads is p shit anyways so

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no redactions

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sorry for defending scum :c

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patch u were gr8!! gg