Micro 102: Mainstream Mini-Mafia [END, CULT WIN]

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Ew.

Siv's self-vote was a strained attempt for scum to say "hey i don't care about being lynched!"

Serious scum read right now.

@11: Mollie, why is putting Siv at L-1 bad?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Well lets go ahead and flip Siv then and see.

Is this a serious post?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: Majiffy

[orcinus_theoriginal]

If I could vote you twice right now, I would.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I would like actual answers to questions, and avoiding questions seems to be anti-town for the purpose of being anti-town.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

The less opinions you express, the less you can be held to them. That's indicative of scum.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Me. And you.

He thinks I'm scummy because I dodged the question.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Well lets go ahead and flip Siv then and see.

Is this a serious post?

Yes it did. I wanted to know whether or not you really wanted to flip Siv now haphazardly. And that is an opinion.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And now you're just mangling definitions. I want to know whether or not you want to flip Siv. This is equivalent to you saying whether or not you think Siv is a good lynch for the day.

In no way is this going to help town, and your grasping at straws to avoid answering a very simple question is very suspect.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Mollie, P-Rat could be bussing scumSiv for some amount of towncred?

That seems a little bit far fetched. We don't even know sivs alignment yet, to be guessing that rat's bussing him just seems wierd at this point in the game..

Mollie was saying that there was no scum motivation there. I was simply pointing out that there is, even if it's not the best kind of motivation at that point in time.

VOTE: Majiffy

I guess I can get the irritation behind the vote, but I guess I don't really like it.

Ah but the question had nothing to do with opinions.

...actually a fair point, given what this argument is all referring to.

This argument feels a lot like orcinus is unnecessarily making a mountain out of a molehill. Was Majiffy's response to the original question annoying? Yes. Should he actually try to come up with a well-thought-out response outlining why he wants to just hang Siv anyways (even if it's already been stated)? Probably. Is the ruckus orcinus causing because of this really worth it? IMO not really.

Vote: Orcinus

What exactly are you voting me for again? I mean, since you've said that Majiffy was being annoying with his refusal to answer question, you think that my persistance in following up is...scummy somehow?

That's terrible.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh and by the way, I'd still like an answer to

my

questions that

you're

now deliberately avoiding.

? What questions?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

What is going on here and why are you allowed to play like this this isn't fair

[orcinus_theoriginal]

33 is irrelevant and I refuse to answer it until you've given me your answer.

Uh, no. You talked yourself into saying that "lol siv is good lynch" is not an opinion. You didn't fool anyone but yourself. So lol opinion is still my answer, thanks.

I missed 55. I don't see how they're independent thoughts. If you think someone is a good lynch, you flip him. What am I missing here?

PPE: Play like an annoying bastard and refuse to answer questions and then receive a chainsaw defense from voidedmafia.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And besides where the hell do you get off asking me questions and expecting me to answer and being a dick about it yourself?

and look

I

can randomly

bold

words too.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Irrelevant to your answer.
Putting words in the mouth of others, are we?

Well lets go ahead and flip Siv then and see.

Sorry buddy, you can't construe that as anything other than flip=lynch in this sentence. Nice try though?

I am now very confident with my vote.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Irrelevant to your answer.
Putting words in the mouth of others, are we?

I'm just responding to what you said, as you said it. But it's interesting that you bring this up, just as soon as you say this;

Well lets go ahead and flip Siv then and see.

Sorry buddy, you can't construe that as anything other than flip=lynch in this sentence. Nice try though?

What we were talking about was the difference between "do I want a flip on x" or "do I think x makes a good lynch?" To which the distinction I've outlined still holds. I never tried to construe anything, you're the one mincing words. We can flip Siv without a flip on Siv necessarily being a good lynch.

But by all means, continue to attack the person instead of the argument. I'm sure it will reflect excellently upon you when the rest of the playerlist eventually shows up.

How are we supposed to flip Siv without a lynch? Oh right, you guys have a nightkill. Forgot about that.
So remind me, why did you feel the need to dodge a simple question about your vote again?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Again you're missing the point. A 'good' lynch is one that is a scum lynch. You can have plenty of lynches that aren't good ones.

Also I think you'll note that the question wasn't about my vote as I didn't actually lay one down.

I have no fucking clue what you're going on about here. You said that you wanted to 'flip' Siv. Hence, you said that you wanted to lynch Siv, since we have no way of finding Siv's alignment by means other than a lynch. So will you tell me if that was a serious call or not?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I would like it to be a serious post so that I can hold you accountable to it.

But truth be told I have a scum read on you whether it's a serious/joke post anyways so yeah.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

How did my answer influence yours?

And why did you feel the need to be such a jackass about answering one question?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And if you really want Siv to be lynched, why are you not voting him?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Your answer didn't influence mine, it was the other way around; I didn't want my answer to eschew yours should you be scum going with whichever one makes you look less scummy.

The amount of irony here is killing me.

And I feel the need to be a jackass constantly. It's just who I am.

Oh okay. That excuses everything I guess.

Because we still have players whom haven't posted nearly an appropriate amount of information, and one player whom hasn't posted at all.

So do you actually have any reads at this point?

My case on you is simple. You refuse to express an opinion until someone else tells you what the 'right' answer is. Believe it or not, "I want to flip Siv" is an opinion in implying that Siv is a good lynch for the day (post 46). And then you go on your completely unrelated flip vs lynch tangent where you miss the point through 5 consecutive posts. Still curious: How do you flip someone without lynching them?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Where's the scum motivation, voided?

PPE: Really?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Siv's self-vote was a strained attempt for scum to say "hey i don't care about being lynched!"

Serious scum read right now.

Um, can I point to this? You think I'm scum, then have a major problem with majiffy wanting to flip/lynch me?

Do you still think I'm scum?

UNVOTE: Siverruer Trickedup
VOTE: Ornicusthe_original

This is a bad vote and you need a reason along with it.

I think you're scummy. I think majiffy wanting to lynch you is more scummy. This is not a contradiction.

Ill reply to everything in the morning.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I only have one vote each day majiffy. I lynch the scummIEST.

You're grasping at straws again.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Post 81/83

I'm on the phone but there's your evidence

Also: what happened to the whole OMG GUYS A FLIP IS NOT A LYNCH I NEVER SAID I WANTED TO LYNCH SIV line of excuse?

You're flailing, majiffy.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orci is avoiding this thread like the plague.

Not really, no. I think FT and I have formed a convincing enough case on you that you should be lynched, and that compounding it is just going to go nowhere with your newfound habit of lying outright. So I don't really see any need for me to post in this thread. And there hasn't been new info from anyone else that I find interesting so *shrug*

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Does Voided's vote strike anyone as opportunistic?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

A vote on me at the time when you thought Majiffy would have been willing to support a lynch on me, yeah

[orcinus_theoriginal]

RM asking people to pick it up when she has like 2 content posts.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

vs. time

RM has had this entire game

You obviously haven't

point is null

[orcinus_theoriginal]

So...it's okay when I do it and not okay when RM does it?

I only have 2 content posts as well, and I still asked people to pick up the pace.

Do you find it scummy coming from RachMarie? Do you find it scummy coming from me?

Actually, that's such a bad reason to call me out.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I missed the memo about Rach replacing in

My bad.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Hmmm...

Orc, I'm assuming Majiffy is still your primary scum read and that Siv is your secondary scum read. I'd like your thoughts on people you don't really mention so much (Mollie and FT in particular)

Majiffy is less and less scum because of his reactions to stuff, and because I realize that I may have been pushing the read in part because I don't like his attitude.

Voided would be my primary scum read that I would push for today, Siv as second.

FT got unnecessary flak for supporting me in the Majiffy shit.

Don't really have any impression of Mollie and I haven't really seen an argument for/against Mollie's alignment that I'm really convinced by.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah I did

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Actually, it is. It feels contrived.

Perhaps I didn't make myself entirely clear at the time, but I was trying to say that the entire sequence of Orci's anger at Majiffy's response and him blowing the argument out of porportion (and drawing it out over a page or so) was scummy because I don't see why town would get that bent out of shape over an

aggravating

but overall alignment null answer that Majiffy gave. And of course, I gave three possibilities for why Orci did that and I still really stand by the 3rd one (that Orci is scum who thought he had a good way to garner suspicion on Majiffy that didn't go as planned at all).

You sort of answer your own question there.

And just out of curiosity if I refuse to answer your questions that makes me town like Majiffy right

oh ok right

[orcinus_theoriginal]

You sort of answer your own question there.

And just out of curiosity if I refuse to answer your questions that makes me town like Majiffy right

oh ok right

Majiffy answered your questions, though it's true he didn't do it in a way that was actually readable at first glance.

And no I didn't.

ANdiniwtphwiehAANWEITHRTOIHWO294nailnhipqkmBAAAAAAAAAAA

[orcinus_theoriginal]

not gibberish it's an answer

just not readable at first glance

[orcinus_theoriginal]

hi thor

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah I have no idea who's scum in this game.

I have scum vibes on majiffy but more and more i'm putting this down to playstyle.

What's voided, do you think?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ok i'm back.

Mollie is the main wagon for now, yeah?

630 is absolutely terrible. It reeks of scum trying to make town question the blatantly obvious and ultimately themselves.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

3. Majiffy (1) - orcinus_theoriginal
7. JacobSavage (1) - Human Destroyer

I feel like Orc and Human are failing at life.
I'm not sure why - I'm sure it will come to me.

ok fine

Thor, what's Majiffy's scumplay like?

VOTE: Voided

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Already answered it in what you deem to be a satisfying manner, Voided.

Thor why did you ignore 653?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Already answered it in what you deem to be a satisfying manner, Voided.

...No you haven't.

Have too!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ok

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ok i'm seriously confused

why was I NKd