Micro 95- The Beehive Mystery 2.5

[Bacde]

Unvote

will need to reread

[Bacde]

hey as long as I'm rereading can someone give me the low-down on whats happening way over here on p23

[Bacde]

what for? I'm currently on p3 and umbrage looks town as butt

does umbrage support this wagon?

[Bacde]

and why is no one voting for siv?

[Bacde]

^^I'm only partway through rereading but seriously stuff like this

Vote: Siv

Umbrage I can see you've been frustrated all game

[Bacde]

yup just finished rereading and I'm cool with my vote.

Seriously I had siv pegged at like page 5

I'm unconvinced about xtopher being scum. I mean its

possible

but I actually think hes town (WIFOM aside)

[Bacde]

Much more likely that your nervous scum.

Likely that his nervous scum does

what

?

For example: this is actually funny.

Its few and far between that a scum player can make a joke that is funny

I can go into more detail about it but I'd rather just get Siv

[Bacde]

^^Did I come in at an awkward time?

It

really

seems like you could use a fresh set of eyes.

xtopher isn't the best lynch today. You've been tunneling him all game ever since he argued that he didn't want to out his reads at the beginning of d1. What part of that is scum motivated instead of VI? I'm unconvinced of him being scum, and your push at this point is frustrated and emotional, rather than logical and based on evidence.

Siv, on the other hand is scum. His reads have been changing wildly with the town, he likes to hop onto the biggest bandwagon, and he justifies his behavior with outbursts and and his terrible signature that is supposed to "clear" him. His question of "who is my buddy" is horrible and reeks of an attempt to clear himself just because I'd still need to figure that out after Siv flips scum. (and other players pointed out how he is also trying to just throw us back into a state of confusion)

@Moz I noticed that most of your "reads" are based on the

emotions

of the players, rather than the actual

content

of what they are producing. Why is Siv being frustrated a towntell? Scum in his situation would

also

be frustrated and would produce frustrated posts. Also, why do you agree with my argument that xtopher is town just because xtopher is relaxed? Which one is the towntell? Relaxation or frustration?

I don't think that the emotional state of the player indicates alignment--especially in the case of Umbrage who is frustrated as all hell right now.

Nacho

could

be scum but I don't even want to deal with that line of thought until after Siv is lynched.

[Bacde]

^^I read your meta and I didn't see anything to "clear" you

Sure you moved your vote around a lot in the Newbie game with Nachomamma8 but you felt different than in this game

[Bacde]

The biggest problem I have with Siv being scum is that he's harldy trying to blend in, is he?
And the stuff about being relaxed or frustrated is context dependant. Topher has generally been quite relaxed, except when the tunnelling has got to him, which seems fair enough. And Siv got frustrated when under fire as well. Normal reactions from townies I'd say.
Also, I don't "just" think topher is town becuase he looks quite relaxed -apart from my brief sheeping at the start of Day 2, I've been saying he's town for most of the game.

Don't you think Nacho's just been blending in quite nicely?

I could probably be talked into voting nacho just like I could probably be talked into voting you or Naomi, but I'd rather leave my vote here

[Bacde]

I could probably be talked into voting nacho just like I could probably be talked into voting you or Naomi, but I'd rather leave my vote here

I miss slimer...

You actually preferred slimer's posts to my own?

I mean I read slimer and I was like ...wow

[Bacde]

Like, what about them?

Theslimer read VI to me--I had to do a lot of guessing as to why theslimer had the reads that he did since it wasn't really explained that often. Either way I think my reads are different except about xtopher who I think theslimer didn't want to lynch either.

Slimer seemed ...fun though

More votes on Siv please--Seriously I don't see myself being happy with any other lynch and I don't want to start second guessing myself

[Bacde]

Cool... So basicly Bacde is Town.

tell me a good reason why and I might even townread you back just saying

[Bacde]

Why did Bacde feel the need to read any of slimer's posts?

yeah why did I read the game at all I wonder

[Bacde]

Why were slimer's important? I understand reading up on all of us, but you don't need any opinion on the player before you.

Dude slimer is confirmed town to me... of course I'm going to be interested in his posts

as long as I have you here, what is your read on Siv?

[Bacde]

I could see moz being scum w/ Siv, especially with the recent defense of Siv going on. Why not hop onto the Siv wagon and confirm your suspicions after Siv flips scum?

Where is Nachomamma?

I don't think he has posted since I entered the game

[Bacde]

you clowns

shh Nacho he'll figure it out

Hey guys sorry to burst in on your game like this but there's a new bandwagon and neither of you have reacted in any way to me entering the game and pretty much telling everyone that now we are getting Siv

So, if you could join the Siv wagon that would be great

[Bacde]

don't worry, I won't tell anyone that you sheeped the guy with a ketchup avatar

[Bacde]

you clowns

shh Nacho he'll figure it out

Hey guys sorry to burst in on your game like this but there's a new bandwagon and neither of you have reacted in any way to me entering the game and pretty much telling everyone that now we are getting Siv

So, if you could join the Siv wagon that would be great

don't worry, I won't tell anyone that you sheeped the guy with a ketchup avatar

EHEAHEHAHEHAEH

do you honestly believe anyone's going to be sheeping you?

sorry mate, you're on the death list

lay low and we just might lynch moz over you

Siv lynch is not happening today, today is xtopher lynch.

Thanks for welcoming me into the game.

Get on Siv please

Looking forward to Nacho's response

[Bacde]

BTW I've already got xtopher sheeping me I'm looking forward to getting more

[Bacde]

I liked Umbrage's early game though, I'm pretty sure she is just frustrated town who has turned off all of her senses and is stuck in a rut

I will turn this around

[Bacde]

just let me feel good about myself ok

[Bacde]

I too think its Siv/moz

but especially Siv

I won't be voting for xtopher, I seriously don't understand the case or tunnel on him.

Is it just because he played in a way that you disagree with? I don't see the scum motivation behind xtoph not wanting to out early reads at d1.

[Bacde]

^^^Good posting.

Umbrage, look I think you are town but I don't think you've been seeing xtopher accurately. You are obviously tunneling for no reason at this point other than to prove a point which I don't understand what it is. Why not interact with me rather than just be a rude sack of

I now understand why people have been complaining about the lack of a friendly atmosphere this game

How is moz/Siv illogical? Look at how moz refuses to vote Siv. Also see how moz has been waffling on/off a xtoph lynch because he will be naked and obvious to you if xtoph is gone

[Bacde]

lol meant to post that @ Naomi

Xtoph, are you scum?

[Bacde]

Then why are you giving up? Do you think this case on you is ridiculous at all? Or do you think this is a legitimate case on you

[Bacde]

you clowns

shh Nacho he'll figure it out

Hey guys sorry to burst in on your game like this but there's a new bandwagon and neither of you have reacted in any way to me entering the game and pretty much telling everyone that now we are getting Siv

So, if you could join the Siv wagon that would be great

don't worry, I won't tell anyone that you sheeped the guy with a ketchup avatar

EHEAHEHAHEHAEH

do you honestly believe anyone's going to be sheeping you?

sorry mate, you're on the death list

lay low and we just might lynch moz over you

Siv lynch is not happening today, today is xtopher lynch.

Thanks for welcoming me into the game.

Get on Siv please

Looking forward to Nacho's response

The fact that you think this is a legitimate response to my thoughts about the game indicates to me that you've completely shut your brain off. You looked good early game, but now you are seriously annoying

Is it at all possible that xtopher might not be scum?

[Bacde]

Well for one, you can help find scum

For two, tell more jokes

One of the above might just be for my own personal enjoyment

[Bacde]

Seriously Umbrage/Nacho just get on Siv already

[Bacde]

Seriously Umbrage/Nacho just get on Siv already

No. Fuck you. Fuck this entire game. I'm done, I've got nothing more to say, and I certainly don't need this attitude from you. Bye.

Dude this is not a protown attitude

I'm telling you right now that I don't understand your case on xtoph

Wouldn't you want to explain it to me or something instead of just telling me off? Or maybe your case just isn't as slam-dunk as you say it is and you are just frustrated, which is what I think

[Bacde]

I don't understand why we can't meet halfway and just lynch Siveure today.

I mean. I think it's moz/Siv. Naomi thinks it's moz/Siv. Bunch of people think it's me/Siv. Why are we insisting on arguing when we're already agreeing on something?

nope
scum positioning town to go for second most suspected person
then he can push the game into lylo
nope.

No one has really made a case on Topher all game. Most of it has just been assertion. "Oh, topher's scum, he must be scum, he IS scum!".
No.

...

Why did Bacde feel the need to read any of slimer's posts?

also a terrible attack

Likely scum, especially if mozamis is. The way that the two have interacted makes it p obvious.

I'd prefer to have mozamis lynched first and we can see about Siveure, but I expect he'd have my vote tomorrow anyway.

So that's why I'm voting him

but you don't want to lynch mozamis today because you would rather not push the harder wagon?

this is blatant survivalism
it needs to die

this whole post assumes that xtoph is scum

I've voted for wagons that were less than my favorite just because I was on the chopping block as town

remind me again why survivalism necessarily indicates scum

[Bacde]

you know the whole; its quiet too quiet thing..? yeah that..

well as of right now I don't see anyone on the xtoph wagon switching over

it woulda been nice if they woulda talked to me or let me in on their games or something

lets hope siv self-hammers

[Bacde]

Hey guys I have limited computer access today so I just wanted to chime in and say that

So Umbrage is town and Siv is scum, I'll post more when I have more time

(I dont think these reads will come as a surprise to anyone who has been reading the thread)

[Bacde]

ok so

Siv is clear. moz/Siv doesn't make sense, Nacho/Siv doesn't make sense, and Bacde/Siv doesn't make sense. (And Umbrage/Siv doesn't make sense either.)

So that leaves...

Nacho/moz
Nacho/Bacde
Bacde/moz

Not liking this sudden 'Nacho is scum' bit from moz. By all rights he should be after Siv.

It doesn't look like bussing. Nacho's behaving all wrong for it to be bussing.

So we can rule out Nacho/moz I think.

That leaves Bacde/Nacho or Bacde/moz.

Yesterday I said if xtopher is town the team is Bacde/moz.

I'm seeing no evidence to change that assumption.

so intent to vote Bacde

Not gonna lie, a Moz/Siv team makes perfect sense

[Bacde]

Ok so Moz is confirmed scum fmpov but once again I have limited computer access so I'll post a bigger post about it tonight or tomorrow.

I ask that:
1) Plz don't quicklynch me
2) Umbrage plz listen to me today

UNVOTE: bacde
Okay, could still be umbrage/bacde.

[Bacde]

hey so I was right about xtoph being town

<--- best reads evar

[Bacde]

I would have done better if we didn't end up lynching/NKing the only 2 people who townread me

[Bacde]

^^ true that

[Bacde]

^^Awesome, next time I replace scum I'ma be super happy about all of the posts of the person who replaced me

[Bacde]

I thought you were doing pretty well too as scum actually