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Then you're not reacting to the misspelled confirms or what's going on? I'm confused as to why you made that joke when you did -- is it just the playerlist or are you reacting to the gamestate?In post 20, Sugar Cain wrote:nothing. Its my day 1 shitick to joke about policy lynches on day 1.beefycheese-
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Quoting this for clarification -- this is what I want you to explain.In post 23, Sugar Cain wrote:I don't really care. Its not like your super anxiousness to start the game is filling me with confidence.
Because that seems like a really odd thing to say.beefycheese-
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I buy that -- your #24 corroborates that.In post 28, Sugar Cain wrote:It was supposed to be an RVS vote, but Nero engaging with you the way he is is kiiinda ruining it. I feel like a third party in this little battle between you and him and I don't know where he's going with all of this.
I don't know where he's going either.beefycheese-
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I wanted to see what your angle was. Don't get all pissy because your first post was interpretable in more than one way. Also please do as much meta on me as you're willing; If you're feeling rushed then fucking take your time -- why the shit woukd I mind that? That is a fucking off the wall accusation and I would love you to both A) back that up and B) somehow leverage that into whatever the hell point you're trying to make here.In post 32, Sugar Cain wrote:jesus shit. give me a chance to reply. I vaugly remember you rushing people to give you responses in our scum games so I'll have to read back. But for the record its a joke about the playerbase. Why you think I'd be concerned with the game state this early is beyond me.
here's some recent town games (I have not rolled a lot of town lately and some of these are from months ago):
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26831
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=24809
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23619
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23927
scum games:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=25295
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26483
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=28626
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=25367
I very much did not see it as an obvious joke. Hence the asking. If it was a joke then I don't have anything else to say about it.Nero wrote:and then my 12 was an obvious joke but you were taking it seriously.
You should think better.Nero wrote:So you seem pretty anxious to me which I think is a maybe scumtell.beefycheese-
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He wanted to meta me, so I gave him some games from which to meta me.In post 44, Malakittens wrote:Hey Borky.. What was with the meta defense right away? You got defensive right off the bat.beefycheese-
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That's fine, but why did you inject yourself into the conversation when it had nothing to do with you?In post 42, ferretlover wrote:I wasn't sure what the fuck nero was talking about so i had some funs.beefycheese-
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How are you so sure Sugar Cain and I are both town already?In post 48, Lucky2u wrote:Well so far my assessment is two townies going at each others throats dominating the thread and a couple people egging them on. Honestly the most suspicious thing I see is macmollie who's confirmed and voted and said NOTHING else. I would love to hear an explanation even if it was a bad one like "because band wagon"beefycheese-
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Is scum? I'm not confident in that at all; I'm not voting him.In post 50, Lucky2u wrote:Why are you two so confident that the other is?beefycheese-
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I'm around.
Don't know why you're injecting meaning into #55 but not the others who were voting macmollie for lack of content. What's the deal?In post 62, T S O wrote:"oh look, Mac hasn't been posting in any games recently and is clearly away. FoS Mac!"
Consider yourself a scumread.beefycheese-
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Yes, Mara, I have: Micro 163; I was an SK, he was town, and it gave me a pretty good window into his personality, and I think it's in the realm of possibility that he'd come out of the gate like he did.
Compare that to Micro 180 where ferret was scum and he tried to look like he didn't know how mafia worked.
p-edit: Mara is sugar, she's just not consistentbeefycheese-
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Yeah, I get what #64 meant now; I retract my scumread on you.In post 115, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh my bad, I missed this when i was reading since you asked for that game, I wasn't trying to make any point, was just trying to bring them to be a little bit more active into the game, which is weird coz you aren't questioning ferretlover's post that only says "Speak up", the unvotes and dissapears again is void now, but I still question why they read anorway as scum and me as town when both of us technically voted him/her for the exact same reason.beefycheese-
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It was mostly me pushing that townread -- I'll quote what I said about it:
I'm rereading him now and I think I fucked up. That post is almost entirely IIoA, and gives no reason at the end for why Sakura should really be considered scum for any of that. These points only kinda work if lucky thinks macmollie is town and sakura is trying to roll this RVS wagon into a mislynch and I see zero evidence he thinks this, and now that I understand #64 better it's pretty obvious that she's making a legitimate point in it.In post 94, borkjerfkin wrote:
I see town phrasing this like he did; he's not trying to use it as a hedge. I like him in general.lucky wrote:I was hoping she would, it would have confirmed it more for me.
And although the way he said the last point (what I quoted) is something I think town might say (town enjoy being right about stuff and it was a hedging opportunity that he did not take), the actual thing he wants to be right about isn't something that indicates scum.
Lucky also was incredibly quick to call both me and Sugar Cain town for pretty much nothing.
Also macmollie has already tried to tie me to him for a dumb as shit reason (see #103), which indicates a possible buddy there if the flip goes that way -- and trying to get me lynched instead of him would mean she would no longer have to pursue that connection at all since I'd flip town. If lucky were to flip town then macmollie is just on fucking drugs.
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VOTE: Lucky
macmollie should have no problem with this is we're "buddies".beefycheese-
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This does need to be aired out.In post 133, Lucky2u wrote:TSO: Leaning scum, because of his gross twisting of words to make an argument.
@TSO --
1) your interpretation of #55 in your #62 was really spinny and gave me bad vibes. Why are you 1) so sure that lucky had investigated Mac's activity on the site and 2) ignoring the fact that the slot is a hydra?beefycheese-
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This has nothing to do with how decisive you're being.In post 133, Lucky2u wrote:@bork In my previous games whenever I'm indecisive I get accused of being scum so I was trying to be more sure of myself, I guess that was the wrong way to do it. I'll lower my stance on mac to FoS again.
You're asking for clarification but also voting as if you've already made up your mind that it's scummy without actually saying it's scummy.beefycheese-
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#145 is candid-town-mollie through and through, but before that I was not reading them as town, no.In post 155, Sugar Cain wrote:Borky, do you not think macmollie is town? I have a strong as fuck town read on them also.beefycheese-
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What are you frustrated about? Ferret's not posting and other shit is going on; be a part of it.In post 171, Sugar Cain wrote:Why are you all playing anti-town as fuck? Is this a bastard game and we're the only town?
MOAR FERRET VOTES NEEDED!!!beefycheese-
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No, it's definitely a strike against him.In post 178, Sugar Cain wrote:
and that doesn't ring any alarm bells for you?In post 176, borkjerfkin wrote:he's definitely been plenty present on site today.beefycheese-
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I want to get ferret engaged, and a lot of the more active people I think are probably town.In post 188, macmollie wrote:I would like a chance to sort mala out before vote anybody can you guys let me do that
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I prompted him on gchat so when he wakes up he will see it. I don't know if he has to work in the morning or not so not sure when that will be and sometimes he doesn't always get a chance to get to his computer.
why aren't looking at anything else that is going on in the game?beefycheese-
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I think the "this is my thoughts about everything" (145) post she made is what makes her town. I've never played with mollie-scum, but 145 was right out of the town-mollie handbook.In post 191, Malakittens wrote:Unless Mollie is trying to mindf* me and possibly Mara she's town. Scum Mollie comes off very passive to me as Town Mollie wants to work together and is somewhat active and not aggressive. The way she went after you with the "tell" is a huge town-Mollie characteristic.
I need a bit more from you on Sakura -- it looks like you're using the fact that Mara does not share your opinion as an excuse not to explain your own read on Sakura; you are not in a hydra with her this game so you don't get to do that. I would like to hear it from you irrespective of what Mara thinks. (I'm assuming 195 refers to a different game).beefycheese-
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This postulating about what ferret is/is not trying to accomplish with lurking is not really helpful. Let him come back and explain himself and then you can figure out whether or not he's telling the truth, or let him be replaced.
TSO is reading town to me now (I make 'I am lost' posts when I am town and lost but would probably not do this as scum) I think Lucky is too again (#232 is fucking right even if ferret does flip scum and whatever post made me unvote him looked town too)beefycheese-
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This is pretty much exactly how I feel about ferret. It's feasible he's just derping around, but at the same time that phone posting excuse is fucking cringeworthy. I'm not ready to lynch anyone today yet.In post 279, macmollie wrote:it is bs
what I am trying to tell you is that he does this shit all of the time
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Really? how is this even remotely guaranteed to be town motivated? I can easily see scum doing this as a delaying tactic or just something that's easy to say without actually having a concrete definition of what that even entails. I'm not saying that's definitely what's going on here, but to say something as pedestrian as this is a towntell really makes me scratch my head.In post 281, Sugar Cain wrote:I was unsure earlier, though I think [Mala] trying to work with me to gauge our alignment is town beyond town.beefycheese-
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I want to not be in nowheresville leadwise if ferret flips townIn post 306, Sugar Cain wrote:And what is it that you hope to accomplish in the next week?beefycheese-
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I want to not be in nowheresville leadwise if ferret flips townIn post 306, Sugar Cain wrote:And what is it that you hope to accomplish in the next week?beefycheese-
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