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Post Post #85 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:19 pm

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So the game started while I was asleep. Great...

Aristophanes wrote:
In post 60, Halos and Horns wrote:
In post 59, Aristophanes wrote:Why are you only trying to sort Postie, RC?


What's this implying?
That I'd like to see your feelers on everyone else as well.

Unless there's a specific reason for the Postie focus. In which case, continue.

I think the Postie focus is null, not scummy. After a previous game RC developed a paranoia of Postie.

Also it would be nice to know which head (Halo or Horn) is RC and which is Lilith.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:56 pm

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So Horns is Lilith, Halos is RC :D

In post 46, Davsto wrote:If the magical mystery
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cop doesn't cop Postie at some point I'll be shocked and disappointed.

In post 47, Postie wrote:Same, and since scum know the results I'll probably be nightkilled and you won't have to worry about my alignment.

On the reread, something feels off about these.

VOTE: Davsto
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Post Post #89 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:12 pm

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A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:15 pm

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In post 115, Davsto wrote:
In post 89, BNL wrote:A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.


Could you explain why it's scummy?

Hidden agenda. That post is to tell the cop to cop Postie, but you didn't say that directly.


I honestly don't like the way this is worded though. He seems to be trying too hard not to say anything too absolute about said post despite me pretty clearly going "PLEASE INSPECT THIS PERSON THANKS"

I have no idea what you are talking about.


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Considering that I have posted
BulletNLynchproof wrote:Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.

I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point. The fact that he OMGUSed me feels like an overreaction to my post.
My vote remains on Dave.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:00 pm

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In post 117, Davsto wrote:Like, I basically said "cop postie please"

No, you said "I'll be mad if the Cop doesn't check Postie"
In post 118, Davsto wrote:
In post 116, BNL wrote:I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point.
That's my problem with you - you seem reluctant to commit. You say that something that can objectively be read through my post with basic reading skills is a "gut feeling" and act like something which I may as well have been waving a flag about is a "hidden agenda".

Why is reluctancy to commit a problem? That was my second post of the game, and first vote. I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS. Am I expected to commit to a scumread at the start of the game? You attacking me with invalid reasons is scummy.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:48 pm

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In post 160, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.


Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote.
VOTE: BNL


Well let me explain. At that point, I had no strong scum reads, and I was very weakly scumreading Davsto for quoted post. Since it was still RVS, I decided to vote Dave rather than not vote.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #6) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:38 am

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In post 169, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 164, Postie wrote:I did. At least, I got the sense it was one of those semi-serious votes that exists in between RVS and serious votes; the nit-picking-to-get-the-game-moving type of vote.


Why did you answer for BNL?

Like seriously please don't do this

In post 164, Postie wrote:
In post 160, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.


Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote.

I did. At least, I got the sense it was one of those semi-serious votes that exists in between RVS and serious votes; the nit-picking-to-get-the-game-moving type of vote.

In post 160, GuiltyLion wrote:I finally watched the YouTube video that was linked in the mod post

I love Jimmy Fallon he's such a gem. Probably the most accessible host on late night television these days. I can't explain why but I never really got into the whole Conan craze.

In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.


Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote.
VOTE: BNL

I'm like halfway sure this is town Postie, especially given her push on Aristo.

In post 189, BNL wrote:
In post 160, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.


Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote.
VOTE: BNL


Well let me explain. At that point, I had no strong scum reads, and I was very weakly scumreading Davsto for quoted post. Since it was still RVS, I decided to vote Dave rather than not vote.

GL, is there any reason you wanted an answer from me, and yet you did nothing with my response?
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Post Post #253 (isolation #7) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:41 am

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In post 221, Davsto wrote:Postie is town. Cop, please don't go wasting one of your shots on her.

Cop one of BNL/lane. Trust me on this one. Chances are I'll be dead today so you'll know I have no ulterior motives.

Also, please do not lynch me until everyone has all five words in their post otherwise town will have few people with a chance to get double vote and that's eww.

In post 222, Davsto wrote:Also also also don't go putting people at L-1 if the owner of the double vote (cuz the second vote is anonymous iirc) hasn't claimed yet because then an easy, no-repercussions quickhammer which is bad in many ways.


Dave, you know it was early in the game and people would not risk a quicklynch as most people haven't put in all their words yet. Why did you talk as if you were about to be lynched?
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Post Post #349 (isolation #8) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:48 pm

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In post 347, Aristophanes wrote:Postie, this pleases me immensely!

Though you're probably scum

Uh
In post 335, Aristophanes wrote:Town Lean: Postie, H&H

Please don't hammer yet, though. I haven't gotten all my words in yet.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #9) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:10 pm

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In post 374, lane0168 wrote:Alright... What I wanted to say before but refrained from saying is that I really didn't like Bnl's post AT ALL. I'm amazed at the audacity to snip that sentence and play it off as a major scum slip. I was hoping he was going to be watching for a reaction, but it appears he just dropped it off and left.

VOTE: bnl


No, I was not waiting for a reaction. It was me trying to get my thoughts out in this thread.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #10) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:17 pm

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Of the three votes on me, I think there is at least one scum in there. I think Postie is town, as her reason for scumreading me is correct (sort of: I found out that a common trait of newbscum is having a lower activity rate than usual. But I'm actually town this game, and my reason for lower than usual activity is because I'm more busy with life than before). I also think Lane is town, as after having read a few games about him, he feels town. (Though I have to think more about him being on all three 4-wagons, and being the L-1 vote twice)

But contrast it with this post:
In post 377, GuiltyLion wrote:VOTE: BNL

choo choo

Feeling much better about Lane
Agree that is the scummiest post in the game
This post is super duper lazy and super duper scummy.

UNVOTE: Davsto
VOTE: GuiltyLion
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Post Post #458 (isolation #11) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:02 pm

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In post 457, Postie wrote:
In post 456, BNL wrote:
In post 377, GuiltyLion wrote:VOTE: BNL

choo choo

Feeling much better about Lane
Agree that is the scummiest post in the game
This post is super duper lazy and super duper scummy.

Lazy? Sure. But why is it scummy?

Opportunistic wagon hopping
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Post Post #471 (isolation #12) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:26 am

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In post 468, lane0168 wrote:BNL didn't even address how snipping... Not moving my vote.

BNL, WHY DID YOU SNIP ARI'S QUOTE TO MAKE HIM LOOK SCUMM?

I wasn't trying to make him look scummy. It was me getting out my thoughts.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #13) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:31 am

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In post 472, lane0168 wrote:
In post 471, BNL wrote:
In post 468, lane0168 wrote:BNL didn't even address how snipping... Not moving my vote.

BNL, WHY DID YOU SNIP ARI'S QUOTE TO MAKE HIM LOOK SCUMM?

I wasn't trying to make him look scummy. It was me getting out my thoughts.


Your thoughts? Why did you snip the sentence? Why did you edit the quote?

I thought the second half of the sentence was irrelevant to what I perceived to be a self-contradiction, so I snipped it.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:41 am

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In post 459, Postie wrote:Hmmn, okay. What do you think of Aristophanes?

I haven't been paying much attention to him this game, so I am currently null on him. I retract my scumpoint on him for the perceived self-contradiction, as I realised I failed to see the context of the quote.

I did notice Ari's townslip though. Then again, he posted some things which I didn't like, for example this:
In post 422, Aristophanes wrote:So, recent events include BNL putting me (back) at L-1

I never voted Ari. Not sure if he is just confused townie, or scum trying to twist facts.

Currently undecided on him. But I would like to ask:

Everyone scumreading Aristophanes: Why do you believe his townslip is fake?
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Post Post #476 (isolation #15) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:44 am

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In post 474, lane0168 wrote:It was an obvious joke, you edited it to make it look scummy. Stop lying.

How was it irrelevant at all?

You saw a self contradiction, with a joke attached, and you found that to be irrelevant. Why was it irrelevant when it was clearly the part that distinguished the entire sentence as a joke?

Surely you can see the relevancy here

At that point I was just skimming through text and wasn't paying attention to the context of the quote.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:53 am

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Also I think I need to mention

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Post Post #481 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:25 am

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Also, Postie and GL, can you explain your Cow townread? Currently having him as null, don't see anything that makes him town.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:35 am

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In post 541, Postie wrote:
In post 540, TheCow wrote:toastie, you're still pegging marbles as town?

Slight townlean, I think.

My money's on a scumteam of lane/Flubber or GL/Flubber.

Wait what
Since when were you scumreading Flubbernugget, and why?
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Post Post #550 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:33 am

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In post 535, Postie wrote:
In post 524, Halos and Horns wrote:Doesn't help that she's jumped on literally every single wagon that's gained any traction today, which is scummy as fuck,

I was leading those wagons
- I didn't jump on them at all! The wagons gained traction because of the people who followed me onto them.

You definitely didn't lead the Davsto wagon
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Post Post #570 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:43 pm

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In post 561, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 473, BNL wrote:I thought the second half of the sentence was irrelevant to what I perceived to be a self-contradiction, so I snipped it.


In post 475, BNL wrote:I haven't been paying much attention to him this game, so I am currently null on him. I retract my scumpoint on him for the perceived self-contradiction, as I realised I failed to see the context of the quote.

first he thought the second half was irrelevant, now he says he failed to see the context.


No. 473 was me explaining why I snipped the quote
at the point which snipped the quote
, while 475 is
after I realised that what I had perceived to be a self-contradiction earlier was actually a joke
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Post Post #571 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:14 pm

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In post 557, GuiltyLion wrote:BNL is still my primary scumread, and he dodged my question about Ari.
BNL, what is your read on Ari? And can you try to explain why it was null halfway into D1 when Ari had hit L-1 and was majorly scumread by a number of players

Are you referring to the question in #525? I didn't answer it because I thought it was a rhetorical question.

As for now, I'm still undecided on Ari. And the main reason I've not been paying much attention to Ari is because I was paying more attention elsewhere.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:20 pm

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In post 578, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 576, Postie wrote:I think it would be best to just let the cop seal my fate tbh.


Can you explain this phrasing here

Like I don't want to call thus a scumslip because you're better than that but I don't know why a townie would say a cop "seals their fate"

In post 579, TheCow wrote:VOTE: poastie

In post 580, lane0168 wrote:Excellent point guilty. I'm interested as well

I don't see how what Postie said is a scumslip?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:27 pm

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Brief readslist about my standings now:

Town: Lane, Postie, Flub
Null lean town: H&H, Aristophanes
Null: Cow
Null lean scum: Davsto
Scum: GL

Lane and Postie are very volatile reads and can move really fast up and down my reads list. The rest are more stable.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:57 pm

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In post 590, GuiltyLion wrote:So you think Ari is town and that there were no scum pushing his wagon?

No. I am still undecided on Aristophanes, and gun to head I'd call him town. I mean, he does sound like a legit VI, but he's been here for more than a year so. Then again, I doubt he would be able to fake the townslip as I doubt he read the previous game.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #25) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 588, BNL wrote:Brief readslist about my standings now:

Town: Lane, Postie, Flub
Null lean town: H&H, Aristophanes
Null: Cow
Null lean scum: Davsto
Scum: GL

Lane and Postie are very volatile reads and can move really fast up and down my reads list. The rest are more stable.

To elaborate on this a little, people in my Null lean town/scum are more Null than anything else.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:36 pm

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In post 597, Davsto wrote:
In post 588, BNL wrote:Null lean scum: Davsto

Elaborate? I don't believe you've said anything about a scumread on me. Reasons? Any attempt to figure me out more because I'm only null and, by your own words,
BulletNLynchproof wrote:people in my Null lean town/scum are more Null than anything else.

You must have forgotten what happened early in the game.

Oh, and I'm starting to move you up from scum to null because after the directing cop argument I wasn't getting scumvibes from you anymore, so you slowly drifted up my list.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:21 am

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Actually, I'm starting to become unsure about Lane. Meta-wise, I think he's town, as he hasn't been talking nonsense (unlike this post). But upon rereading, I'm starting to get more scumvibes from Lane, like how does he actually dare to put people at L-1 early in the game?

I also see what people have said about Lane casting shade on so many people, but I don't think that per se is scummy, as it is early in the game and reads haven't settled yet. When I have more time I probably want to investigate more into it, whether is it "Let's put down all my scumpoints and see who is most scummy" or "Let's have reasons to lynch anyone who isn't my partner".

Lane, what's your read on Postie?
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Post Post #608 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:32 pm

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In post 600, lane0168 wrote:It's say town for Postie. If it wasn't for rc being all about it, I wouldn't even be looking at her at all

Explain your Postie townread?
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Post Post #613 (isolation #29) » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:12 am

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In post 611, lane0168 wrote:
In post 608, BNL wrote:
In post 600, lane0168 wrote:It's say town for Postie. If it wasn't for rc being all about it, I wouldn't even be looking at her at all

Explain your Postie townread?


Not until you tell me why you haven't asked TheCow to explain any of his reads. Is it just cause hes not voting you?

I've been getting the impression that you have been scumreading Postie from your posts, so I find it weird for you to say that you were townreading Postie.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #30) » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:12 am

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In post 612, lane0168 wrote:But seriously, I'll try to figure out if it's something more than a town feel, lots of activity, everything seems to be actual content, not a lot of fluff, trying to work out the game, that sort of thing.

So I take this as your explanation?
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Post Post #632 (isolation #31) » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:49 pm

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Now I'm starting to dislike Lane. He's been wagon hopping all over the place (been on all 4-wagons so far), and I don't like how he claims to have a townread on Postie when his iso says completely otherwise.

Like the only reason to townread him is Meta, and that's eww.
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Post Post #633 (isolation #32) » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:56 pm

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Also I'm settling my Postie read as town as I'm getting strong townvibes from her posts in 563-576.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:55 am

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In post 634, lane0168 wrote:
In post 632, BNL wrote:Now I'm starting to dislike Lane. He's been wagon hopping all over the place (been on all 4-wagons so far), and I don't like how he claims to have a townread on Postie when his iso says completely otherwise.

Like the only reason to townread him is Meta, and that's eww.


Really? Just starting now? I mean i was on all the wagons pages ago... What's changed?

I'm on all the wagons, and then the other part of your case is im not scum reading another person? Lol.

Can we lunch bnl now?

You were on the second Ari wagon. And I mean I find it weird that you can say you were townreading Postie while I was getting the opposite impression from your ISO.

There's also a lot of your other Postie interactions that I didn't like, but I need to think if they are actually alignment indicative.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #34) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:13 am

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In post 618, lane0168 wrote:Oops sorry VOTE: ari

Explain this?
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Post Post #639 (isolation #35) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:13 am

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^About Ari vote, not the oops sorry part
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Post Post #669 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:53 pm

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In post 649, lane0168 wrote:That was a tongue in cheek remark.

OK, that clears up matters a lot.

Can you explain why you voted Ari (in 618), though?
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Post Post #670 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:54 pm

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In post 652, Halos and Horns wrote:I was hoping to get a chance to chat with Lilith before I voted but the tl;dr is that after last game and all the pressure that Aristo is under, I can't imagine him not claiming cop under duress.
The VT claim makes him extremely likely to be town, I think.

Can you go more into this? I don't quite understand.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:52 pm

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In post 672, Halos and Horns wrote:Also his push on lane is really delayed, lane's been on several wagons before this and I don't understand why getting on the ari wagon would lead to bnl scumreading lane and not anybody else on that wagon.

I wasn't pushing Lane. I'm trying to get a better read of him.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #39) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:33 am

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In post 676, GuiltyLion wrote:He's not taking any strong stances on Ari either way, which is rubbing me the wrong way. When there's a leading wagon for most of the day, everyone should eventually be falling on the side of "this is a bad lynch" or "this person is scum". BNL seems to do neither.

In post 475, BNL wrote:I haven't been paying much attention to him this game, so I am currently null on him.


In post 571, BNL wrote:As for now, I'm still undecided on Ari. And the main reason I've not been paying much attention to Ari is because I was paying more attention elsewhere.

^there's a lot of thought process missing here. Where was BNL paying attention elsewhere? like if he thinks scum is outside of Ari, then that means he should believe Ari is a mislynch and be fighting against it, or at least voicing a problem with it.

In post 594, BNL wrote:No. I am still undecided on Aristophanes, and gun to head I'd call him town. I mean, he does sound like a legit VI, but he's been here for more than a year so. Then again, I doubt he would be able to fake the townslip as I doubt he read the previous game.

Even this is still hedgey and waffley. I don't know why BNL wouldn't say he's just outright townreading Ari.

Because I wasn't? I had townpoints and scumpoints for Ari, and only said gun to head, I would call Ari town.

Also, I don't see how it is scummy to be null on someone which everyone else is either townreading or scumreading?
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Post Post #703 (isolation #40) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:44 pm

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In post 693, GuiltyLion wrote:Why do you think BNL misread a post when he explicitly said:
In post 473, BNL wrote:I thought the second half of the sentence was irrelevant to what I perceived to be a self-contradiction,
so I snipped it.

he's saying he intentionally chopped off the very part of that makes it clear that the post is a joke.
Can I reiterate to you that when I posted 349 I wasn't reading the thread properly?
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Post Post #704 (isolation #41) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:49 pm

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In post 698, GuiltyLion wrote:BNL what do you think of H&H suggesting that you're a newbie, or at least playing like one?

My immediate response (answer off the top of my head) is I don't know. Do you want me to think through this more?
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Post Post #706 (isolation #42) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:06 pm

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In post 705, GuiltyLion wrote:Like why are you answering my question just to give a non-answer?
I wanted to acknowledge that I have read your question but don't have a response yet.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:13 pm

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In post 676, GuiltyLion wrote:like if he thinks scum is outside of Ari, then that means he should believe Ari is a mislynch and be fighting against it, or at least voicing a problem with it.

I don't see how this makes sense
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Post Post #732 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:01 pm

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In post 710, GuiltyLion wrote:If you're townreading Ari and you're also townreading his entire wagon then it is literally your responsibility as a townie to talk to the people on the wagon and say you don't think it's a good lynch.

There's no pro-town motivation in suspecting that Davsto and I are scum but then letting everyone else force a claim out of Ari and put him into hammer range twice.

I honestly don't see you making sense here. I don't have a strong townread on Ari, and I questioned Lane about his jump onto the Ari wagon. (And I wasn't townreading Cow either)

In your second paragraph you were talking like I was certain you and Davsto were scum, but I wasn't. I faded out my Davsto scumread. I'm uncertain about Ari. And since you are directing this to me specifically, I'm getting this impression that you are finding reasons to scumread me, which is a scummy mindset. (Not sure how to explain this, but what I'm trying to say is that you set your reads in stone first then find evidence for doing so, rather than the other way round)
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Post Post #733 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:20 pm

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Davsto, what's your read on me?

Lane, what's your read on GL?

People townreading Lane: Do you think meta alone is a sufficient reason to townread Lane, or are there other reasons?

I'm swinging back to town on Lane, but not as strongly as before. He has explained why my scumpoints on him are invalid, but I'm not quite sure what to make of him saying he wants to be on any wagon he's scumreading.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:33 am

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In post 734, GuiltyLion wrote:
Also, speaking of second paragraphs, yours is a complete misrep. Why do you think I'm talking like you were certain Davsto was scum? I literally said:
In post 588, BNL wrote:There's no pro-town motivation in
suspecting
that Davsto and I are scum but then letting everyone else force a claim out of Ari and put him into hammer range twice.

I thought you thought I thought (ok this is is sorta like inception but hopefully you know what I mean) everyone on the Ari wagon as well as Ari himself were town.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:58 pm

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Claim: VT
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Post Post #768 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:17 pm

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In post 766, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't like how he
still
didn't answer my question or provide any new content/reads

as far as potentially-last-posts go, it's extremely anti-town. Again, compare to Slavic Music Mafia where he was still giving updated reads at L-1 and trying to give town a solid plan of action if he was lynched

he caught scum with it too

pretty convinced he's scum at this point and even if he's somehow not, scum won't NK him regardless

My life has been more busy than last time so I can't focus on the game as much as last time
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Post Post #769 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:18 pm

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seeing how GL is so tunneled onto me I wanted to call him scum, but really my play was very bad this game
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Post Post #770 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:18 pm

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final thoughts

Davsto extensively prodging is scum meta, and he hasn't updated is reads?
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Post Post #771 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:19 pm

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but I have enough of GL attacking me and I want to replace out, but at this point I might as well self hammer
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Post Post #772 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:21 pm

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Dave GL scum
postie lane h&h flub town
cow ari null
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Post Post #773 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:22 pm

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I pretty much gave up on this game
sorry for bad play this game
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Post Post #774 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:23 pm

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oh, and I had 6 completed games. Five on my wiki, last is Molla grand idea. I think I'm still sort of newb here
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Post Post #775 (isolation #55) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:24 pm

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GL is pushing me too hard
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Post Post #776 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:27 pm

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GL is scumreading me for missing his question and not missing his question
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Post Post #777 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:28 pm

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Mod
should I try to get all my words in even if I'm going to get lynched?
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Post Post #779 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:30 pm

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At this stage I have lost motivation to play this game and want to replace out, but since I'm at L-1 and deadline is approaching its as good as self hammering
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Post Post #781 (isolation #59) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:59 pm

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Another thing is that I usually cannot catch up to long games, and most of my games are relatively short
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Post Post #784 (isolation #60) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:01 pm

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In post 782, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 781, BNL wrote:Another thing is that I usually cannot catch up to long games, and most of my games are relatively short
I mean, this game hasn't been
that
long. Has it?

I'm used to ~10-20 pages
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Post Post #787 (isolation #61) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:09 pm

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In post 785, GuiltyLion wrote:Meh I like wouldn't be surprised if he did flip town but it's also pretty convenient timing to try to AtE his way out of a lynch.

in the past he has said inattentiveness is scummy, though it was months ago.

If he is town here, I'm disappointed in his play.

So you are heavily scumreading me but wouldn't be surprised when I flip town?
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Post Post #789 (isolation #62) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:11 pm

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In post 786, GuiltyLion wrote:and part of the reason I asked him that question about H&H is because I know he can do better

You
know
I can do better?
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Post Post #799 (isolation #63) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:52 pm

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In post 734, GuiltyLion wrote:Also, speaking of second paragraphs, yours is a complete misrep. Why do you think I'm talking like you were certain Davsto was scum? I literally said:
In post 588, BNL wrote:There's no pro-town motivation in
suspecting
that Davsto and I are scum but then letting everyone else force a claim out of Ari and put him into hammer range twice.

In post 676, GuiltyLion wrote:As of (setting aside his new scumread on Lane), he had Ari as town and Davsto/me as his strongest scumreads. So that means he thinks Ari hitting L-1 was an all town wagon, and that both scum were sitting on the sidelines WKing Ari and saying we don't like the lynch.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #64) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:39 pm

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bah
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Post Post #819 (isolation #65) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:42 pm

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nope I'm town
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Post Post #820 (isolation #66) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:44 pm

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but idk where my reads are at now
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Post Post #822 (isolation #67) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:46 pm

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And actually my lynch isn't bad as I haven't been paying much close attention to the game
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Post Post #823 (isolation #68) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:46 pm

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I wasn't around from #803 till your hammer
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Post Post #824 (isolation #69) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:48 pm

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In post 822, BNL wrote:And actually my lynch isn't bad as I haven't been paying much close attention to the game

and also I cause I think there will be a lot of information
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Post Post #826 (isolation #70) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:49 pm

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I wish I could use Mr Cleans Magic eraser to wipe off #349
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Post Post #827 (isolation #71) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:50 pm

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the forum list mods are Mina N quadz08 Equinox and GuyInFreezer
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my favourite star wars characters are Darth JarJar Yoda and Dooku
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Post Post #830 (isolation #73) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:52 pm

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and his name is JOHN CENA!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #831 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:53 pm

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but in all seriousness I deserved my lynch because I didn't put in my effort into this game
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Post Post #833 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:54 pm

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reads are prob stale
but didn't change from last list
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Post Post #835 (isolation #76) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:55 pm

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In post 832, Aristophanes wrote:I should stop posting...

You should spam in twilight
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Post Post #837 (isolation #77) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:56 pm

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haven't done final read through yet
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Post Post #838 (isolation #78) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:57 pm

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but in general I'm going to agree with what Smart said about the scums
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Post Post #840 (isolation #79) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:59 pm

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SS has only one post
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Post Post #841 (isolation #80) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:00 pm

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anyway this game was a nightmare so I'm glad to be out
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Post Post #843 (isolation #81) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:02 pm

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Horns and SS definitely aren't scum together
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Post Post #844 (isolation #82) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:03 pm

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GL scum -> prob flub scum
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Post Post #846 (isolation #83) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:05 pm

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In post 719, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 715, Halos and Horns wrote:Care to explain that vote?

Deadline is approaching and I prefer a bnl lynch over a gl lynch
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Post Post #847 (isolation #84) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:07 pm

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In post 805, Aristophanes wrote:Ooooh yay! SS is here! :)

H&H, I'll go on with this.
VOTE: GL

In post 816, Aristophanes wrote:Fuckit

VOTE: BLP

Hate on me tomorrow.
Whateva

GL scum -> Ari ???
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Post Post #848 (isolation #85) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:07 pm

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Put GL at L-1 but hammered me soon after?
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Post Post #849 (isolation #86) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:08 pm

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if GL is scum 805 is risky

lemme check timeframe
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Post Post #850 (isolation #87) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:08 pm

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so they were less than 1 hour apart
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Post Post #851 (isolation #88) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:09 pm

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if GL scum wanted to all ari town but he switched too fast
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Post Post #852 (isolation #89) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:09 pm

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*call
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Post Post #854 (isolation #90) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:11 pm

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you put GL at l-1
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Post Post #855 (isolation #91) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:12 pm

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risky move for buddies
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Post Post #856 (isolation #92) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:12 pm

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but the fact that you changed your mind so fast...
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Post Post #858 (isolation #93) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:13 pm

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GL moved H&H from scum to null
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Post Post #859 (isolation #94) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:14 pm

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I thought this game would be fun due to very familiar player list
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Post Post #860 (isolation #95) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:15 pm

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at least 1 scum on wagon
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Post Post #861 (isolation #96) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:15 pm

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if scum off wagon lynched everyone else off is conftown
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Post Post #862 (isolation #97) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:16 pm

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In post 861, BNL wrote:if scum off wagon lynched everyone else off is conftown

otherwise I need to improve my gamd
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Post Post #865 (isolation #98) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:19 pm

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In post 863, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 860, BNL wrote:at least 1 scum on wagon
likely. Though everyone (except SS) was on either you of GL, do I'm sure there's maybe scum on both?

good point if GLs town
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Post Post #866 (isolation #99) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:19 pm

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gtg now bye, gl town!
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Post Post #867 (isolation #100) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:20 pm

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In post 866, BNL wrote:gl town!

No, gl scum, good luck town!
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #101) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:07 pm

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In post 843, BNL wrote:Horns and SS definitely aren't scum together

Well...
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #102) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:08 pm

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But my reads changed a lot in the dead thread
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #103) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:09 pm

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In post 939, Aeronaut wrote:
VC 2.1
VoteCount 2.1

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!


Bloviate
VOTE: [/b]

"To speak pompously or brag."


[0]
Halos and Horns -

[0]
Something_Smart -

[0]
Postie -

[2]
GuiltyLion -
Halos and Horns, Postie
[2]
Aristophanes -
Something_Smart, Flubbernugget
[0]
Flubbernugget -

[0]
lane0168 -


Not Voting
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Aristophanes, GuiltyLion, lane0168


Mod Notes:

Take note that it is indeed still 5 votes for a majority, not 4.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-03-06 12:30:32)

In post 1033, Aeronaut wrote:
VC 2.3
VoteCount 2.3

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!


Doozy
[n][/b]

"Something really great"


[0]
Halos and Horns -

[0]
Something_Smart -

[0]
Postie -

[3]
GuiltyLion -
Halos and Horns, Postie, Something_Smart
[2]
Aristophanes -
Flubbernugget, lane0168
[0]
Flubbernugget -

[0]
lane0168 -


Not Voting
-
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<3
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #104) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:11 pm

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VC #2.1: {H&H, Postie, GL} and {Ari, Flub, SS} contain one scum each.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #105) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:14 pm

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Yup, I guessed that everyone had one of their words another person on the forum
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #106) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:14 pm

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In post 1112, Aeronaut wrote:Only three people guessed on night 1; only 1 on N2.

I think town's main downfall here was not using the double vote to their advantage. Postie had it D1 and didn't use it :/

You mean Day 2?
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #107) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:16 pm

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In post 1100, BNL wrote:
In post 843, BNL wrote:Horns and SS definitely aren't scum together

Well...

Anyway, this means that 349 was so scummy that scum could actually white knight off it to gain towncred.
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #108) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:19 pm

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In post 1119, Postie wrote:I was the cop too. I'm even more bummed about that hammer now, because if I'd have gotten all my words in I might have been able to steal the double vote again. I didn't claim it on day 2 in case scum claimed cop at L-1 and I needed to anonihammer.

You didn't force the words in in twilight?
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #109) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:20 pm

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Also, people seem to forget that Day 2 is potentially LyLo.
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #110) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:21 pm

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In post 1120, BNL wrote:
In post 1119, Postie wrote:I was the cop too. I'm even more bummed about that hammer now, because if I'd have gotten all my words in I might have been able to steal the double vote again. I didn't claim it on day 2 in case scum claimed cop at L-1 and I needed to anonihammer.

You didn't force the words in in twilight?

Also, night actions?
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #111) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:23 pm

Post by BNL »

In post 1105, BNL wrote:
In post 939, Aeronaut wrote:
VC 2.1
VoteCount 2.1

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!


Bloviate
VOTE: [/b]

"To speak pompously or brag."


[0]
Halos and Horns -

[0]
Something_Smart -

[0]
Postie -

[2]
GuiltyLion -
Halos and Horns, Postie
[2]
Aristophanes -
Something_Smart, Flubbernugget
[0]
Flubbernugget -

[0]
lane0168 -


Not Voting
-
Aristophanes, GuiltyLion, lane0168


Mod Notes:

Take note that it is indeed still 5 votes for a majority, not 4.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-03-06 12:30:32)

In post 1033, Aeronaut wrote:
VC 2.3
VoteCount 2.3

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!


Doozy
[n][/b]

"Something really great"


[0]
Halos and Horns -

[0]
Something_Smart -

[0]
Postie -

[3]
GuiltyLion -
Halos and Horns, Postie, Something_Smart
[2]
Aristophanes -
Flubbernugget, lane0168
[0]
Flubbernugget -

[0]
lane0168 -


Not Voting
-
Aristophanes, GuiltyLion


Mod Notes:

<3

Anyway, people should have payed attention to these VCs. It points towards SS scum
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #112) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:24 pm

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In post 1124, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1117, BNL wrote:
Anyway, this means that 349 was so scummy that scum could actually white knight off it to gain towncred.


on the other hand though, I was _sure_ that H&H was scum as soon as they called you "obvtown" :D

S_S, the argument was that BNL wasn't paying any attention, cause scum doesn't need to whereas town does. But in this case I guess town BNL just wasn't paying attention :/

Yeah, which is why I will probably be taking a break from Mafia, as I need to be not busy enough so that I can concentrate on the game more.
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #113) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:28 pm

Post by BNL »

In post 1125, BNL wrote:
In post 1105, BNL wrote:
In post 939, Aeronaut wrote:
VC 2.1
VoteCount 2.1

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!


Bloviate
VOTE: [/b]

"To speak pompously or brag."


[0]
Halos and Horns -

[0]
Something_Smart -

[0]
Postie -

[2]
GuiltyLion -
Halos and Horns, Postie
[2]
Aristophanes -
Something_Smart, Flubbernugget
[0]
Flubbernugget -

[0]
lane0168 -


Not Voting
-
Aristophanes, GuiltyLion, lane0168


Mod Notes:

Take note that it is indeed still 5 votes for a majority, not 4.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-03-06 12:30:32)

In post 1033, Aeronaut wrote:
VC 2.3
VoteCount 2.3

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!


Doozy
[n][/b]

"Something really great"


[0]
Halos and Horns -

[0]
Something_Smart -

[0]
Postie -

[3]
GuiltyLion -
Halos and Horns, Postie, Something_Smart
[2]
Aristophanes -
Flubbernugget, lane0168
[0]
Flubbernugget -

[0]
lane0168 -


Not Voting
-
Aristophanes, GuiltyLion


Mod Notes:

<3

Anyway, people should have payed attention to these VCs. It points towards SS scum

It also shows that {GL, Postie, H&H} and {Ari, Flub, SS} contain exactly one scum each. When SS switched over, I knew SS was scum if GL wasn't scum.
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #114) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:29 pm

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Anyway, GG all
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #115) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:18 pm

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Aero, a suggestion: You might want to use a JK instead of a Cop next time. While Cop is usually more powerful, the face that LyLo can be brought forward by one day increases the value of JK.
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #116) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:32 pm

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In post 1111, Aeronaut wrote:
POSTIE - 16.5

Town
Triple-Vote
Titus
Jean Luc Picard
An Octopus’s Garden

ARISTOPHANES

Scum
Quadruple
Mina
Bernie Sanders
Puss (in boots)

BulletNLynchproof

Game
Shade
Equinox
Mr. Clean
Darth JarJar

Davsto

Moderator
Serial Killer
Aeronaut
Jennifer Lawrence's Aunt
Nic Cage, In the Cage!!!

Flubber

OMGUS
Third Party
Mastin2
Boeramir
Jon Snow inside a Tauntaun

GuiltyLiony

Anti-Town
Bulletproof
Cheetory6
Jimmy Fallon
The entirety of the script of “Bee Movie”

Lane

Pro-Town
Fruit Vendor
Marquis
Peter Jackson’s pet baby lamb
Inception is really stupid

Something Smart - 8

WIFOM
Motion Detector
Zoraster
Jeff Probst
“So in the matrix, does Neo like die? or does he live on in the heart of the machines or some shit? I’ve never understood that.”

H&H - 14.5

Micro
Large
Tracker
Commuter
Drunk Mafia
Fro99er
J.R.R. Tolkein?
BEES?
Would You Like A Jelly Baby?
I hate the laughter of children

Day 2 words?
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Post Post #1161 (isolation #117) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:43 pm

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Another idea which probably works better is that you score points based on other's misses than your own guesses.
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Post Post #1163 (isolation #118) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:23 pm

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In post 1162, Davsto wrote:I'd say now, after playing it again, that there is a problem with the double vote - town having the double vote likely provides little help unless their read is right. Scum having the double vote allows them to win a day early.

The other alternative is that the double vote is changed to a triple vote.
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #119) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:02 pm

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Will the Mafia PT be released?
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #120) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:06 pm

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Was there daytalk?
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #121) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:56 pm

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In post 1180, lilith2013 wrote:What about a one-shot roleblocker but for getting the vote?

Er, the setup needs to be more townsided, not scumsided
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