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Post #89 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:12 pm
Postby BNL »
A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.
In post 89, BNL wrote:A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.
Could you explain why it's scummy?
Hidden agenda. That post is to tell the cop to cop Postie, but you didn't say that directly.
I honestly don't like the way this is worded though. He seems to be trying too hard not to say anything too absolute about said post despite me pretty clearly going "PLEASE INSPECT THIS PERSON THANKS"
I have no idea what you are talking about.
VOTE: BulletNLynchproof
vote go here now
Considering that I have posted
BulletNLynchproof wrote:Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.
I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point. The fact that he OMGUSed me feels like an overreaction to my post.
My vote remains on Dave.
In post 116, BNL wrote:I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point.
That's my problem with you - you seem reluctant to commit. You say that something that can objectively be read through my post with basic reading skills is a "gut feeling" and act like something which I may as well have been waving a flag about is a "hidden agenda".
Why is reluctancy to commit a problem? That was my second post of the game, and first vote. I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS. Am I expected to commit to a scumread at the start of the game? You attacking me with invalid reasons is scummy.
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.
Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote. VOTE: BNL
Well let me explain. At that point, I had no strong scum reads, and I was very weakly scumreading Davsto for quoted post. Since it was still RVS, I decided to vote Dave rather than not vote.
In post 164, Postie wrote:I did. At least, I got the sense it was one of those semi-serious votes that exists in between RVS and serious votes; the nit-picking-to-get-the-game-moving type of vote.
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.
Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote.
I did. At least, I got the sense it was one of those semi-serious votes that exists in between RVS and serious votes; the nit-picking-to-get-the-game-moving type of vote.
In post 160, GuiltyLion wrote:I finally watched the YouTube video that was linked in the mod post
I love Jimmy Fallon he's such a gem. Probably the most accessible host on late night television these days. I can't explain why but I never really got into the whole Conan craze.
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.
Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote. VOTE: BNL
I'm like halfway sure this is town Postie, especially given her push on Aristo.
In post 119, BNL wrote:I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS.
Are you saying your vote on Davsto was RVS? Cause I didn't get that sense from your vote. VOTE: BNL
Well let me explain. At that point, I had no strong scum reads, and I was very weakly scumreading Davsto for quoted post. Since it was still RVS, I decided to vote Dave rather than not vote.
GL, is there any reason you wanted an answer from me, and yet you did nothing with my response?
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Post #253 (isolation #7) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:41 am
Postby BNL »
In post 221, Davsto wrote:Postie is town. Cop, please don't go wasting one of your shots on her.
Cop one of BNL/lane. Trust me on this one. Chances are I'll be dead today so you'll know I have no ulterior motives.
Also, please do not lynch me until everyone has all five words in their post otherwise town will have few people with a chance to get double vote and that's eww.
In post 222, Davsto wrote:Also also also don't go putting people at L-1 if the owner of the double vote (cuz the second vote is anonymous iirc) hasn't claimed yet because then an easy, no-repercussions quickhammer which is bad in many ways.
Dave, you know it was early in the game and people would not risk a quicklynch as most people haven't put in all their words yet. Why did you talk as if you were about to be lynched?
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Post #454 (isolation #9) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:10 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 374, lane0168 wrote:Alright... What I wanted to say before but refrained from saying is that I really didn't like Bnl's post AT ALL. I'm amazed at the audacity to snip that sentence and play it off as a major scum slip. I was hoping he was going to be watching for a reaction, but it appears he just dropped it off and left.
VOTE: bnl
No, I was not waiting for a reaction. It was me trying to get my thoughts out in this thread.
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Post #456 (isolation #10) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:17 pm
Postby BNL »
Of the three votes on me, I think there is at least one scum in there. I think Postie is town, as her reason for scumreading me is correct (sort of: I found out that a common trait of newbscum is having a lower activity rate than usual. But I'm actually town this game, and my reason for lower than usual activity is because I'm more busy with life than before). I also think Lane is town, as after having read a few games about him, he feels town. (Though I have to think more about him being on all three 4-wagons, and being the L-1 vote twice)
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Post #475 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:41 am
Postby BNL »
In post 459, Postie wrote:Hmmn, okay. What do you think of Aristophanes?
I haven't been paying much attention to him this game, so I am currently null on him. I retract my scumpoint on him for the perceived self-contradiction, as I realised I failed to see the context of the quote.
I did notice Ari's townslip though. Then again, he posted some things which I didn't like, for example this:
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Post #476 (isolation #15) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:44 am
Postby BNL »
In post 474, lane0168 wrote:It was an obvious joke, you edited it to make it look scummy. Stop lying.
How was it irrelevant at all?
You saw a self contradiction, with a joke attached, and you found that to be irrelevant. Why was it irrelevant when it was clearly the part that distinguished the entire sentence as a joke?
Surely you can see the relevancy here
At that point I was just skimming through text and wasn't paying attention to the context of the quote.
In post 524, Halos and Horns wrote:Doesn't help that she's jumped on literally every single wagon that's gained any traction today, which is scummy as fuck,
I was leading those wagons
- I didn't jump on them at all! The wagons gained traction because of the people who followed me onto them.
In post 473, BNL wrote:I thought the second half of the sentence was irrelevant to what I perceived to be a self-contradiction, so I snipped it.
In post 475, BNL wrote:I haven't been paying much attention to him this game, so I am currently null on him. I retract my scumpoint on him for the perceived self-contradiction, as I realised I failed to see the context of the quote.
first he thought the second half was irrelevant, now he says he failed to see the context.
No. 473 was me explaining why I snipped the quote
at the point which snipped the quote
, while 475 is
after I realised that what I had perceived to be a self-contradiction earlier was actually a joke
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Post #571 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:14 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 557, GuiltyLion wrote:BNL is still my primary scumread, and he dodged my question about Ari.
BNL, what is your read on Ari? And can you try to explain why it was null halfway into D1 when Ari had hit L-1 and was majorly scumread by a number of players
Are you referring to the question in #525? I didn't answer it because I thought it was a rhetorical question.
As for now, I'm still undecided on Ari. And the main reason I've not been paying much attention to Ari is because I was paying more attention elsewhere.
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Post #594 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:57 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 590, GuiltyLion wrote:So you think Ari is town and that there were no scum pushing his wagon?
No. I am still undecided on Aristophanes, and gun to head I'd call him town. I mean, he does sound like a legit VI, but he's been here for more than a year so. Then again, I doubt he would be able to fake the townslip as I doubt he read the previous game.
Elaborate? I don't believe you've said anything about a scumread on me. Reasons? Any attempt to figure me out more because I'm only null and, by your own words,
BulletNLynchproof wrote:people in my Null lean town/scum are more Null than anything else.
You must have forgotten what happened early in the game.
Oh, and I'm starting to move you up from scum to null because after the directing cop argument I wasn't getting scumvibes from you anymore, so you slowly drifted up my list.
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Post #599 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:21 am
Postby BNL »
Actually, I'm starting to become unsure about Lane. Meta-wise, I think he's town, as he hasn't been talking nonsense (unlike this post). But upon rereading, I'm starting to get more scumvibes from Lane, like how does he actually dare to put people at L-1 early in the game?
I also see what people have said about Lane casting shade on so many people, but I don't think that per se is scummy, as it is early in the game and reads haven't settled yet. When I have more time I probably want to investigate more into it, whether is it "Let's put down all my scumpoints and see who is most scummy" or "Let's have reasons to lynch anyone who isn't my partner".
In post 600, lane0168 wrote:It's say town for Postie. If it wasn't for rc being all about it, I wouldn't even be looking at her at all
Explain your Postie townread?
Not until you tell me why you haven't asked TheCow to explain any of his reads. Is it just cause hes not voting you?
I've been getting the impression that you have been scumreading Postie from your posts, so I find it weird for you to say that you were townreading Postie.
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Post #614 (isolation #30) » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:12 am
Postby BNL »
In post 612, lane0168 wrote:But seriously, I'll try to figure out if it's something more than a town feel, lots of activity, everything seems to be actual content, not a lot of fluff, trying to work out the game, that sort of thing.
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Post #632 (isolation #31) » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:49 pm
Postby BNL »
Now I'm starting to dislike Lane. He's been wagon hopping all over the place (been on all 4-wagons so far), and I don't like how he claims to have a townread on Postie when his iso says completely otherwise.
Like the only reason to townread him is Meta, and that's eww.
In post 632, BNL wrote:Now I'm starting to dislike Lane. He's been wagon hopping all over the place (been on all 4-wagons so far), and I don't like how he claims to have a townread on Postie when his iso says completely otherwise.
Like the only reason to townread him is Meta, and that's eww.
Really? Just starting now? I mean i was on all the wagons pages ago... What's changed?
I'm on all the wagons, and then the other part of your case is im not scum reading another person? Lol.
Can we lunch bnl now?
You were on the second Ari wagon. And I mean I find it weird that you can say you were townreading Postie while I was getting the opposite impression from your ISO.
There's also a lot of your other Postie interactions that I didn't like, but I need to think if they are actually alignment indicative.
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Post #670 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:54 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 652, Halos and Horns wrote:I was hoping to get a chance to chat with Lilith before I voted but the tl;dr is that after last game and all the pressure that Aristo is under, I can't imagine him not claiming cop under duress.
The VT claim makes him extremely likely to be town, I think.
Can you go more into this? I don't quite understand.
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Post #680 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:52 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 672, Halos and Horns wrote:Also his push on lane is really delayed, lane's been on several wagons before this and I don't understand why getting on the ari wagon would lead to bnl scumreading lane and not anybody else on that wagon.
I wasn't pushing Lane. I'm trying to get a better read of him.
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Post #690 (isolation #39) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:33 am
Postby BNL »
In post 676, GuiltyLion wrote:He's not taking any strong stances on Ari either way, which is rubbing me the wrong way. When there's a leading wagon for most of the day, everyone should eventually be falling on the side of "this is a bad lynch" or "this person is scum". BNL seems to do neither.
In post 475, BNL wrote:I haven't been paying much attention to him this game, so I am currently null on him.
In post 571, BNL wrote:As for now, I'm still undecided on Ari. And the main reason I've not been paying much attention to Ari is because I was paying more attention elsewhere.
^there's a lot of thought process missing here. Where was BNL paying attention elsewhere? like if he thinks scum is outside of Ari, then that means he should believe Ari is a mislynch and be fighting against it, or at least voicing a problem with it.
In post 594, BNL wrote:No. I am still undecided on Aristophanes, and gun to head I'd call him town. I mean, he does sound like a legit VI, but he's been here for more than a year so. Then again, I doubt he would be able to fake the townslip as I doubt he read the previous game.
Even this is still hedgey and waffley. I don't know why BNL wouldn't say he's just outright townreading Ari.
Because I wasn't? I had townpoints and scumpoints for Ari, and only said gun to head, I would call Ari town.
Also, I don't see how it is scummy to be null on someone which everyone else is either townreading or scumreading?
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Post #709 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:13 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 676, GuiltyLion wrote:like if he thinks scum is outside of Ari, then that means he should believe Ari is a mislynch and be fighting against it, or at least voicing a problem with it.
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Post #732 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:01 pm
Postby BNL »
In post 710, GuiltyLion wrote:If you're townreading Ari and you're also townreading his entire wagon then it is literally your responsibility as a townie to talk to the people on the wagon and say you don't think it's a good lynch.
There's no pro-town motivation in suspecting that Davsto and I are scum but then letting everyone else force a claim out of Ari and put him into hammer range twice.
I honestly don't see you making sense here. I don't have a strong townread on Ari, and I questioned Lane about his jump onto the Ari wagon. (And I wasn't townreading Cow either)
In your second paragraph you were talking like I was certain you and Davsto were scum, but I wasn't. I faded out my Davsto scumread. I'm uncertain about Ari. And since you are directing this to me specifically, I'm getting this impression that you are finding reasons to scumread me, which is a scummy mindset. (Not sure how to explain this, but what I'm trying to say is that you set your reads in stone first then find evidence for doing so, rather than the other way round)
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Post #733 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:20 pm
Postby BNL »
Davsto, what's your read on me?
Lane, what's your read on GL?
People townreading Lane: Do you think meta alone is a sufficient reason to townread Lane, or are there other reasons?
I'm swinging back to town on Lane, but not as strongly as before. He has explained why my scumpoints on him are invalid, but I'm not quite sure what to make of him saying he wants to be on any wagon he's scumreading.
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Post #740 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:33 am
Postby BNL »
In post 734, GuiltyLion wrote:
Also, speaking of second paragraphs, yours is a complete misrep. Why do you think I'm talking like you were certain Davsto was scum? I literally said:
In post 588, BNL wrote:There's no pro-town motivation in
suspecting
that Davsto and I are scum but then letting everyone else force a claim out of Ari and put him into hammer range twice.
I thought you thought I thought (ok this is is sorta like inception but hopefully you know what I mean) everyone on the Ari wagon as well as Ari himself were town.
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Post #779 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:30 pm
Postby BNL »
At this stage I have lost motivation to play this game and want to replace out, but since I'm at L-1 and deadline is approaching its as good as self hammering