Micro 677: Double Day Unlimited in Wifom City - Town Win

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Confirming to blend in

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I think it's time to see a flip

VOTE: GL

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Since GL flipped town

VOTE: Alisae

Never votes Tier despite scumreading him and is satisfied with limiting himself to defense; no real scumhunting initiative detected

VOTE: nydush

buddying + meta sucks

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^that was Jester, and this is Dunn

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The way I saw it Nyd is overanalysing and just posting numbers that I thought didn't mean much.

I mean, he is so...

I'm eyerolling at the lamist math


UNVOTE: nydusher

VOTE: Martha
VOTE: Guiltylion

Also, can someone convince me of a pro-town reason to use multiple votes? More votes on more wagons makes it easier for scum to push mislynches.

Agreed in full with the above post. Single votes are better.

Sounds like you guys picked the wrong game.

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And fuck, give me something to work with at least.

what are you talking about here?







do you guys want to know why I picked this hydra name?

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nydush, nolynching once day 1 sounds like a bad idea.

Normally we lynch 2, 1 is nightkilled, putting us at 6, one more kill is 5, which is lylo if we haven't killed scum.

if scum is dead by then, it's our last mislynch, going to 4, and the nightkill brings it to 3

that all sounds pretty sound numbers wise to me

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It looks like you're trying to say we have a greater % chance of lynching scum with someone nightkilled, but if they're getting nightkilled they probably weren't getting lynched.

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So in this setup, we get 2 lynches each day.

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I scumread Alisae

thought post 33 was a dumb thing to say and disappear on

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UNVOTE: guiltylion

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That's absolutely the worst thing you can do

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VOTE: Pepchoninga nydushermain

wow

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VOTE: Alisae

Good opportunity I guess

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WAIT

NM hammered you

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for real

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Agreed in full with the above post. Single votes are better. Plus alisae is scummy.
VOTE: alisae

On to the theory. It is imperative that we lynch twice everyday. That gives us 3 mislynches and then we can still win the game. If we lynch only once today, we're done for after 3 mislynches.

The highest amount of lynches is always best in a setup like this. I can do the math if anyone disagrees but that town wants to have as many lynches as possible should be a no-brainer.

Disagree. I agree that the highest amount of lynches is best but 1 lynch today, 2 lynches tomorrow (if we hit scum) gives us 2 lynches in the final day.

2 lynches today, 2 lynches tomorrow (if we hit scum), gives us 1 lynch in the final day.

Either way, it amounts to 5 lynches to hit the 2 scum. It only changes how quickly mylo/lylo hits us. If alisae is actually dead and flips town, we should probably lynch twice today, and lynch twice tomorrow because we don't have as much interactions considering it was such a quick lynch.

If we nolynch today, we get 1 lynch the next day and then at 6 people left it's mylo, so we.... nolynch again? to take it to odds

You seem to be assuming we hit scum, right now that plan requires us to hit scum in 1 lynch tomorrow

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Wanted to have a fun game with Tier so I wanted to play but I guess I don't get to have a fun game with Tier ;~;

And what do you think of your wagon, anyway?

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didn't what

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We can do it in 2 tomorrow.

why would we want our last potential lynch to be at 6 people alive, instead of 5 people alive?

Even if we lynch scum, why would we want to do that? I don't understand

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I mean, I agree with ali's uncertainty in terms of how many scum are in her wagon.. I think that it was so fast that we can't really tell who was scum based on votes. Both scum could've literally not been in the wagon because they hadn't responded to the game thread in time, who knows.

What do you think of not mafia?

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I'm saying if we get to 6 people alive and 1 lynch for the day I'd argue to nolynch

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Well if we lynch once today, we get two lynches tomorrow.

uh, we get two lynches tomorrow if we lynch twice today as well

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two lynches today + nk: 6 left

two lynches that day + nk (with 1 scum dead) 3 left

then 1 more lynch

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Like we don't have prs; the double lynch is what we get, if we nolynch we're throwing that away and probably lose

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We were already voting Alisae

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VOTE: Martha Zolanski

Don't at all like the shade throwing/"analysis" at the end there. And the defensive "my vote was rvs" when nobody asked about it

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I feel very uneasy for NM - you can understand, right?

Why do you say this only after Tier's post though?

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I'm not sure if NM could ever care enough as to check the votes and unvotes, check the rules, hope the mod enforces the rules and then think of a joke post to take advantage of it.

But isn't that what you're voting him for

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...? The unvote thing happened after the hammer

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VOTE: Martha Zolanski

Don't at all like the shade throwing/"analysis" at the end there. And the defensive "my vote was rvs" when nobody asked about it

agreed though but you don't think nm is a scummy scumfuck?

If you agreed you'd prob be voting

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VOTE: Hiraki
VOTE: Towns Last Hope
VOTE: Lycanfire
VOTE: GuiltyLion
VOTE: TierShift
VOTE: Alisae
VOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Martha Zolanski
VOTE: Pepchoninga nydushermain

Town Last Hope, Martha, Nyd, Tier, Not_Mafia.

Welp I was town!

UNVOTE:

I'm pretty sure I have a vote somewhere -_- so I'm gonna just take that off now... I suggest everyone do the same. It's easy to lose track of votes in this game I'm assuming considering what just happened.

Try again?

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I'm pretty sure I have a vote somewhere -_- so I'm gonna just take that off now... I suggest everyone do the same. It's easy to lose track of votes in this game I'm assuming considering what just happened.

j/s

Like, what are you talking about

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There's still a guy who hasn't posted

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fake hammers are fine but a posthumous one is fishy. how can you not know that the fifth vote is on the board?

Probably because nobody called l-1, or even l-2, and another guy quickhammered off of that

I don't know what you're arguing - we're scummy because we didn't know they were already hammered when we fake hammered...? What's the correlation

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And to say it's "an attempt to distract from the wagon" is pretty spicy but I don't know how you can believe what you're saying

Or why you're assuming both scum would have been on it

or why if you think that, you only placed a single vote on us

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I'm arguing that you fake hammered precisely because you knew there was a hammer

I didn't

and even if I did, so what?

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We were already voting Alisae

Mine's was a RVS though

Again, nobody was accusing you of anything so this just makes you look defensive

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VOTE: Martha Zolanski

Don't at all like the shade throwing/"analysis" at the end there. And the defensive "my vote was rvs" when nobody asked about it

No. I'm not being defensive. And it's not my fault that Alisae got lynched accidentally.

This is what I meant to quote*

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I'm so wrong.

I thought THL attempted to hammer Alisae, but he was the first one to vote Alisae I think?

Well, I think that fake hammer isn't scummy af since I think some people use that as a RT.

ok...........

I'm not sure how I feel now

UNVOTE: martha

VOTE: Guiltylion
VOTE: nydushermain

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No

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But I don't have a good feeling about him. I don't think I'll ever be able to town read him if he plays this way tbh.

What made you come off of him?

ftr I don't really like your push on him

guiltylion just rubs me the wrong way

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{nyd, lycan}
{Hiraki, TLH}
{N_M, Tier}
{Martha}

is where I am at

How did you come up with this?

How did that top tier of townread form

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Why are people only prod dodging?

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Why are you not voting for Not_Mafia?

I didn't say it was scummy, it's bad play

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VOTE: Hiraki

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Can you clarify why? Your ISO indicates that you have more of a SR on TLH.

So you haven't read the game, then

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Why are you not voting for Not_Mafia?

I didn't say it was scummy, it's bad play

Can you establish the difference in this scenario?

Do you think N_M is not a competent player to make something look innocent while being scummy in character?

Do you believe a competent player can't make incompetent plays?

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Why are you not voting for Not_Mafia?

I didn't say it was scummy, it's bad play

Can you establish the difference in this scenario?

Do you think N_M is not a competent player to make something look innocent while being scummy in character?

The difference is one is overall bad play that you reasonably wouldn't realize (Voting everybody)

Which doesn't need a vote

You're trying to bring his quickhammer into this which I wasn't commenting on

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Can you explain this? I'm not understanding what you're saying.

bad play =/= scummy

voting everyone was a bad play (aside from the hammer)

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I'm asking that you can at least acknowledge that N_M did it solely to look like it was bad play when he had a plan in mind.

We only have 1 lynch left today; I don't want it to be not_mafia so I'm not going to vote him.

I'm not convinced that a player of not_mafia's...

disposition

is particularly likely to have an elaborate thing going on, no. And it's partially other peoples faults for not announcing l-1, or even l-2 I think

What you're arguing now isn't what you were arguing when you first placed your vote on us

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TierShift due to the fact that there's not enough content but that's purely subjective. I also have a good feeling about him.

Feel free to lynch me for association

but this is jut my feeling atm.

This seems awkward to say as town

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1) Arguments and reads can change. You satisfied the prior argument and now I have a new one.

You have a new one because you need to push your narrative, not because you had a revelation.

2) Pushing the blame on other people for not announcing L-1 or L-2 is a very very lame defense.

Are you confused here? I'm not voting people for not announcing l-1 or l-2. I'm not defending not_mafia either, but I'm not voting him, and that's a good portion of why. If you think he should be lynched, you push on him. You're asking me to defend him, which I have no interest in doing.

3) 256 is purely subjective.

What's objective about it is that you asked to be lynched in order to reveal associations, and I'm obliged to follow your request.

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I want to say that nydusher coasting this out feels like scum play

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1) I think it was indicative of someone wanting the Alisae wagon to look chaotic

You're vastly overstating the effects it would have

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What does "I'm not sure how I feel now" mean?

You said your read on us was wrong because you made a wrong assumption, so my thoughts on you changed as well. I was saying you looked bad for pushing us on the fake hammer

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What does "I'm not sure how I feel now" mean?

You said your read on us was wrong because you made a wrong assumption, so my thoughts on you changed as well. I was saying you looked bad for pushing us on the fake hammer

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Apparently this double post thing just never happens on firefox, but it happens on chrome

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i want TLH to answer my question

what question

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i want TLH to answer my question

what question

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Nydus are you saying you believe NM would vote everyone and knowingly hammer as town?

I think that's pretty obviously not what he's saying by the way...

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That looks like hammer - want to point out that lycan said I never answered a question then ignored me asking what question twice lol

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so I like {nydush, Hiraki, TLH} for town.

uh... I like nydush and Hiraki for scum

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Can we all agree that if we hit scum on lynch # 1 today that we go to sleep?

yes

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Hiraki, can you explain your votes?

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And what do you want to discuss? How about your read on; hiraki, lycan, and also why you want to lynch ts

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Uhh tell me more about these connections

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TLH refuses to answer what they thought the composition for the Alisae wagon was. They had a gross interaction day 1 and despite feeling like they have more presence, they seem lazier than Tier. That's suss.

Uh, what? We've been asking you what question you were asking multiple times yesterday. Also, I don't understand what the question is? You're asking if I think scum were on Alisae? I don't think there's any way to really deduce that with how it happened

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nydush/TLH what are your thoughts about Lycan?

I think him saying stuff like we're "coasting all game" is plain untrue no questions asked - I don't know if that makes him scum blatantly lying/not reading the game or if he's just clueless

leaning scum

Also think Hiraki is scum and is the one actually coasting

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due for a prod and there's been 6 new posts

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Waiting for people to respond to me btw

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reminds me a lot of this post that scum!Dunn made in a Newbie we played together

Uh, I'm not controlling other people to make them not read the game when I'm scum if that's what you're trying to piece together. If somebody hasn't read the game I'll call them out on it, yes.

why didn't you just re-ISO and figure out what the question was yourself when Lycan first said "TLH hasn't answered my question"?

And why didn't you do it for me? I didn't want to/couldn't understand

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I think I trust tlh in this game

Tlh where do I vote?

likely scum within lycan/hiraki. maybe not both. Could be guiltylion or nydush.

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Seriously GL how about you go into more detail on how 242 and 136 in that other game link together as something scummy?

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Do you disagree that it looks like he hasn't read the game?

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Tiershift and GL what say you?

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Tiershift and GL what say you?

Why Tiershift and not Nydus?

I wasn't talking to nydush

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Okay so
I'm vanilla town
I can vote for as many people as i want
So what if i do it, since i don't have any reads yet
VOTE: Hiraki
VOTE: Towns Last Hope
VOTE: Lycanfire
VOTE: GuiltyLion
VOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Martha Zolanski
VOTE: Pepchoninga nydushermain

Again, this wasn't a good idea at the start of the game, it's not a good idea now with 6 players alive

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I could theoretically hammer lycanfire right now.

Lycan I'd lynch TLH if you flip town, I think

Why ? ? ?

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Michael I'm not convinced you didn't see the votecount before making those votes

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I don't know if my posts are unimpactful or people just don't care about my reads other than lion or the people I've ever accused because no one really interacts with me in a meaningful way.

you're pretty much lurking, but I don't blame you