essentially achieving our best case scenario {scum lynch} is worth the risk of the worst case {town lynch}. we don't gimp our chances later into the game by town lynching, and since we lynch scummy players our best case is always better. we get little info from the nks and relying on those flips gives scum the opportunity to dictate the information we get opposed to us choosing who we flip.
While I appreciate the investigative effort Lycan, this has been discussed to hell and back - even in this short game. Would like a little bit more meat on that vote though.
NM is too lazy to check the VC so he RVS
but it ended up hammering Alisae.
Is he scum for my perspective? No but I'm not sure also. There's no VC to check how much votes does a person have and I'm also too lazy to check how much votes are there when the mod can do that for us.
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Here's where I'm at. NM's hammer is NAI. You guys are trying to analyze it? Well stop because it's dumb and it's completely hypothetical. He could be this genius pretending to not have known it was a hammer, he could've also very well just meant to fully RVS and accidentally hammered. Who cares? We'll never know until post game. You guys are pushing on someone for something that isn't even a scum tell...
THAT BEING SAID. Here's why I think we should vote for him anyways:
He votes, hammers, and doesn't participate in trying to game solve. If I were in his position, I'd be so annoyed that it even happened and have tried to at least put in a modicum of game solving. I think that he was nervous about the hammer as scum and didn't want to have to deal with the drama of hammering. He was obviously reading the thread because I was having a discussion with alisae or someone and he chimed in with a really quick response when I asked for someone to speak. I think this is scum trying to avoid confrontation. It's an unnatural reaction for town to say absolutely nothing useful when they mishammer someone by accident and are still reading the thread....
nydush the thing is Not_Mafia often plays like this, as town or scum. He's hilarious and I enjoy playing with him so I say this with love but you're going to have a hard time if you expect to determine his alignment by the amount of useful things he says.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 187, Martha Zolanski wrote:Well, I think that fake hammer isn't scummy af since I think some people use that as a RT.
why did you say "isn't scummy af"? Do you mean it's only slightly scummy, or not scummy at all?
might be reaching here but this phrasing reads to me like it was retroactively edited which is more likely to come from scum imo. I don't think someone typing out their thoughts organically would write a sentence like this on first attempt. "isn't [x] af" is just a really awkward phrase
also do you have any more thoughts about the votes on you or anything at all besides a null read on N_M
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 172, Lycanfire wrote:basically i think it's an attempt to distract from a double scum wagon.
if there were two scum on the wagon, how does one of them doing a fake hammer distract from that?
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 187, Martha Zolanski wrote:Well, I think that fake hammer isn't scummy af since I think some people use that as a RT.
why did you say "isn't scummy af"? Do you mean it's only slightly scummy, or not scummy at all?
might be reaching here but this phrasing reads to me like it was retroactively edited which is more likely to come from scum imo. I don't think someone typing out their thoughts organically would write a sentence like this on first attempt. "isn't [x] af" is just a really awkward phrase
actually ignore this first question, when I reread your ISO I guess it makes a little bit more sense in context because previously you were pushing on TLH
"isn't scummy af" is still weird on like a gut level though
In post 193, GuiltyLion wrote:also do you have any more thoughts about the votes on you or anything at all besides a null read on N_M
I do still want this answered
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 192, GuiltyLion wrote:nydush the thing is Not_Mafia often plays like this, as town or scum. He's hilarious and I enjoy playing with him so I say this with love but you're going to have a hard time if you expect to determine his alignment by the amount of useful things he says.
It's not so much that he didn't say useful things, it's more so that he was obviously reading the thread, but he neither reacted in a way that I thought town would react to accidentally hammering, and didn't really contribute much when I was trying to bring people in to interact with alisae in the twilight. I should probably ego search him just in case though... thanks for bringing this up about his meta
