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What do you think?In post 38, Sobolev Space wrote:@Lil Uzi - is your vote RVS or naw?
One word. Selective.In post 41, Sobolev Space wrote:Doesn't look like RVS to me but I don't see how their post merits a vote.
I think AJ and Max is TvT because the heart of the argument seems purely play style based. AJ is being aggressive and wants opinions on arguably the most controversial player in the game so far in Tenshii while Max seems like he wants to let things develop more.In post 53, Tenshii wrote:lol bodiedIn post 51, Umlaut wrote:grumble grumble steal my pagetop will youWhy?In post 52, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:AJ and Max looks TvT.
In post 57, Aj The Epic wrote:Speaking frankly, I've liked no one's play thus far and think they could all use to get their ass in gear and post.LuV's play this game actually bothers me, and I consider myself fairly aquatinted with his bad habits of sounding scummy early. Here particularly, he's been as brief as possible with no real advancement to the game.I would argue that schadd's reasoning isn't well put together, the vote placement/timing isn't bad by itself.
Tenshii's white noise was bothering me because there wasn't anything productive that could come from it, up until roughly post 49. early in the game, scum can try and post a lot to integrate easier/get in with the 'town block'.
Temphq's post on 'tvt or svs' is pretty bad too. I'd probably only make a preliminary call on Hiraki being town this early. Depending on his next post, I'd be interested in looking into lynching Schadd but right now I think I prefer Temphq.
VOTE: Temphq
In post 123, Sobolev Space wrote:Tenshii's activity shot down right after people started voting for him.
VOTE: Tenshii
Activity is NAI. Why are you pushing that tell?In post 126, Sobolev Space wrote:@AJ - do you still scumread Lil Uzi? I was TR-ing that slot early game but given his inactivity its getting weaker and weaker.
Tenshii's tone has been consistent throughout.In post 131, Sobolev Space wrote:Tenshii read is because it feels like a playstyle adjustment. If he had high or low activity by itself that would be NAI but the change is what irks me.
For you, its mostly because you have no new content while others are producing content so my reads on them get stronger while my read on you gets weaker.
How are you reading his tone? I read his one liners as aggressive and overall persistent.In post 133, Sobolev Space wrote:Disagree about Tenshii's tone.
My point about you is that early game there's not much to go on so you were one of my strongest TRs. Now that I have more info about others with little new info about you my reads on others get stronger relative to my read on you. I can see how it was confusingly worded.
Prolonging the day doesn't do any good. What do you want to accomplish before you put him at L-1?In post 172, horrordude0215 wrote:Did you not see where I said I wasn't going to L-1 AJ with a week left before deadline?In post 171, Hiraki wrote:says the person voting meIn post 169, horrordude0215 wrote:If AJ flips scum, Hiraki deserves some attention too.
Already have. Nothing has changed my opinion on you and Max.In post 178, Aj The Epic wrote:How about you contributing your thoughts now? That's a prod dodge with nothing more than "Yeah let's get a lynch so I can contribute less".In post 173, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Prolonging the day doesn't do any good. What do you want to accomplish before you put him at L-1?In post 172, horrordude0215 wrote:Did you not see where I said I wasn't going to L-1 AJ with a week left before deadline?In post 171, Hiraki wrote:says the person voting meIn post 169, horrordude0215 wrote:If AJ flips scum, Hiraki deserves some attention too.
Longer days tend to not be so beneficial to town due to things like doubt and uncertainty creeping in.In post 179, horrordude0215 wrote:Longer days only benefit town. It gives us more to read and refer to for D2. Yes, activity in the game has been pretty nonexistent. But what good would come from hammering early?In post 173, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Prolonging the day doesn't do any good. What do you want to accomplish before you put him at L-1?In post 172, horrordude0215 wrote:Did you not see where I said I wasn't going to L-1 AJ with a week left before deadline?In post 171, Hiraki wrote:says the person voting meIn post 169, horrordude0215 wrote:If AJ flips scum, Hiraki deserves some attention too.
TvTvT.In post 186, Sobolev Space wrote:@Lil Uzi - I'd like your opinion on the AJ/Max/Tenshii scuffle here.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.In post 195, Sobolev Space wrote:Who do you think could be scum then?
In post 202, Sobolev Space wrote:VOTE: Lil Uzi
Try harder.In post 198, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:That's what I'm trying to figure out.In post 195, Sobolev Space wrote:Who do you think could be scum then?
Do you think he's been scummy?In post 216, Toto wrote:Max and Aj need to stop 1v1. Thanks.
Also,there is a scary looking clown in this game.
I want everyone to reflect on that.
I understand your concern but I can assure you that I'm still the same player you know and love. One thing a lot of people don't know about me is that it's very easy for me to get disinterested and/or tune a game out over the smallest things. I've been lurking because of disinterest and my disinterest here is similar to how I played in 670. A big argument between two players became the center of discussion and players were forced to choose between the two because people couldn't put their ego to the side.In post 227, Toto wrote:This game has very low activity. It is going to be very hard for town to win in this environment. It is a 10 page game with a very close deadline on D1. Mafia has an easy job gliding through yhis.
Luv your playstyle has changed a lot lately. You are being more lurky. Effort is not alignment indicative but when all town makes an effort it makes it harder for mafia to blend in. Town has an easier job being town than mafia. If everyone makes an effort alignments will become more apparent.
Im going to wait until d2 to see if things improve otherwise I will replace out.
I think Hiraki is town. What's troubling you about him? What are your thoughts on how he responded to Horror's case?In post 228, Toto wrote:Actually, LUV is my strongest town read after re-read.
LUV, work with me. I kind of want to lynch Hiraki. But it seems I always want to lynch Hiraki and I don't want to tunnel this game. I need your cool Rasta town logic.
Failing that I'd say lynch Tenshil for active lurking.
What's the issue?In post 233, Aj The Epic wrote:Luv's only got townreads and I'd only count two of his posts as substance though.
Again, what's the issue? I asked Horror what he was hoping to accomplish before putting you at L-1 because I believed he didn't intend to do anything except wait for a better lynch to come along. If you notice, he's still yet to answer that question and he only has engaged with me about mafia theory. All he's done since then is hopped on your bandwagon for a fairly weak reason. Now he's pushing me for lurking which is NAI.In post 241, Aj The Epic wrote:Toto, I still want to hear more about LuV. Because my soft conclusion has been he's probably the most likely scum right now (given his response in post 173, and post 204).
Actually, thinking on it: LuV's conclusion in 203 contradicts his conclusion in 173. If you're not clicking links, 173 is his "let's end the day now" post and 203 is his "I think Aj/Max is tvt" explanation, from his earlier statement that Tenshii/Max/Myself is tvtvt.
So in LuV's own progression he's showing a weakness of consistency, and his reads are, as I've stated, weak. Knowing you're on him being town, can you give me some reasons why I shouldn't help him get lynched today?
Max, you do realize that one could argue that your read on Toto is just as shallow as you think my read on AJ is?In post 288, Maxous wrote:#227
The guy lurks then gives out about low activity and threatens to replace out.
Again, likely town but just silly
This siteIn post 302, horrordude0215 wrote:Cool, thanks Darklyn.
LUV you've been active on the site all day. Please Claim/post/do fuckingsomethinghere by 10 PM PST tonight (approximately 8.5 hours from now) or it's hammer time.
VOTE: HorrorIn post 323, horrordude0215 wrote:You're really going to have to work to explain this one. What could you possibly feel you're right about here? The only read you've provided before this was that AJ was town - you've provided nothing of substance to even sort of make a case on anyone.In post 318, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I feel I'm right here and as a result, here we are.
So much is wrong with this post. I fully addressed why I didn't put AJ at L-1: because we still had a week until deadline, and short days benefit no one except scum. I fully expressed my scumread on AJ from my intro post, and the only reason I wasn't voting him before that was because my Hiraki read was stronger.In post 319, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: Again, what's the issue? I asked Horror what he was hoping to accomplish before putting you at L-1 because I believed he didn't intend to do anything except wait for a better lynch to come along. If you notice, he's still yet to answer that question and he only has engaged with me about mafia theory. All he's done since then is hopped on your bandwagon for a fairly weak reason. Now he's pushing me for lurking which is NAI.
I'm sorry, but I don't buy this at all.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
Back to L-1 you go.
I claimed the way I did for a reason. Why are you assuming that I'm a doctor?In post 338, Maxous wrote:no?In post 320, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Max, you do realize that one could argue that your read on Toto is just as shallow as you think my read on AJ is?In post 288, Maxous wrote:#227
The guy lurks then gives out about low activity and threatens to replace out.
Again, likely town but just silly
argue it then
You're basically saying you think Toto is town because he mentioned the lack of activity and threaten to replace out. That is arguable just as shallow as you think you my read on AJ isIn post 339, Maxous wrote:like, if i'm to trust Hiraki's read on LUV, that he's just a player that regularly pulls shit like this...i'm not gonna be delighted, sorry
Horror.In post 342, Darklyn wrote:luV who do you want lynched?
Why Darklyn?
The only way Toto could be scum is if you're suspecting a no-kill gambit was ran.In post 451, Aj The Epic wrote:Ouch. Actually, real ouch because LUV/Tenshii are basically confirmed town and scum lost their counterplay measure to it, it appears.
I'm leaning towards Toto second scum. I don't think this team bussed, and I think coordinating would've been a bit obvious. I feel like it would've been in scum's best interest to bank on a NL and not bus there as deadline in a dead game was kinda an issue. We can also probably assume Soblov/Hiraki as town for further notice.
P-edit: That's as expected. It's GG to kill doctor, and even if it's a RB, they can't coordinate kills [1 block, 1 shot] (which actually lends itself that there shouldn't be a RB).
Max.In post 455, Aj The Epic wrote:oh nvm I know what you're claiming. Who did you target then?
No comment.In post 462, Sobolev Space wrote:@Lil Uzi - did you protect Toto last night?
Yes!In post 473, Sobolev Space wrote:I'm lost here. Are you saying Max is scum?
Why him instead of you or Hiraki? Or even Toto?In post 474, Aj The Epic wrote:LuV, I'm fairly positive I know EXACTLY what role you are. I'm just saying it's not impossible for someone to want Max dead. I imagine you're also thinking the same thing, considering you haven't voted Max yet.
If I'm not wrong, we still have to lynch max because occam's razor but... ahhhhh I still could see people killing Max if they thought it was impossible to kill you or Tenshii.
I wanted to see how he would react to town finding out no one was night killed.In post 486, Sobolev Space wrote:Why didn't you just vote Max at the start of the day?
PoE and his push on me at the end of D1 was really scummy.In post 513, Aj The Epic wrote:LuV, what was your reasoning for JK'ing Max? I know he was involved in the large 1v1v1 early d1 and Tenshii was basically cleared going into night, but I dunno if I would've let Darklyn move night 2 after his entrance early in D1.