Micro 699: Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright [Game Over]

[WhyMafia]

FIRST
VOTE: Bellsprout

Me no like pokemon

[WhyMafia]

Scum reads:
Everyone

Reason:
LURKERS!!!

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: WhyMafia

OMGUS
VOTE: Jason

[WhyMafia]

I'm not in a mason xd

[WhyMafia]

Anyway I'm town and bitter how is everyone else doing

Why should I believe you are town
Die Pokemon
VOTE: BellSprout

[WhyMafia]

Pretty sure the claim was a joke claim. Unsure why it is being pushed like this

I think I balk at any such "joke" claims

I'm seeing now how it could have been totally a joke thing, but, I still don't like it at all

Why?

[WhyMafia]

hi guys....u-um h-how are you guys..!!

ohshit, I see what you did there (I think?)

I don't understand :/

[WhyMafia]

Anyone alive?

[WhyMafia]

weekends tend to be slow

Ah

[WhyMafia]

I hate parties

Same

[WhyMafia]

Mass claiming is never a good strat. And it's very likely that Boon could be mafia jk.

[WhyMafia]

And don't worry, I'll hit scum toNight, guys. Town people, don't shoot me. If you don't believe me, lynch me tomorrow.

How will we know if you "hit" scum tonight. They could very well do a no kill gambit. Could they not?

[WhyMafia]

and I believe I've played with WhyMafia before

Nope! I've only played 1 full game of forum maf on a different site (died n1 )
I'm currently playing a newb game though. You're not in it, so you haven't

[WhyMafia]

Idk i'm not feeling anything let's wagon a lurker

I've stated this in another game as well. What's the point of voting up a lurker? If they're truly lurking, sure, they will have to answer to accusations, but they might as well get prodded. We have little time, if said lurker is actually inactive, we would have wasted valuable time that we could've spent figuring out scum from the list of active players
VOTE: Severa

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia, every time you post I get the urge to lynch you.

Mind explaining why? You keep saying this but are yet to tell what makes my posts scummy to you?

[WhyMafia]

i say we just nl and hope ppl contribute in later days

I don't like the tone in that statement. Scum would want discussion to be slow. He's basically saying to calm down and hope we get our act together in the future??!

[WhyMafia]

gerryoat & WhyMafia scumteam

Game over.

Feel free to concede and save us all the time and hassle of going through the motions of lynching you.

I'm kind of concerned that you're assuming the scum team this early. Go ahead and lynch us then. Let's see if your hypothesis is correct

[WhyMafia]

Let's take a moment here and see how constructive StoneCold has been this game

VOTE: WhyMafia

VOTE: JasonWazza

I'm Masons with WhyMafia. Get off him.

RVS

VOTE: stone cold

masons don't claim mason unprovoked, much more likely the scum team, especially in a micro (masons in a micro?)

Just defending RVS statement
What's the Scum motivation in faking a Mason claim on page one?

VOTE: stone cold

masons don't claim mason unprovoked, much more likely the scum team, especially in a micro (masons in a micro?)

What's the Scum motivation in faking a Mason claim on page one?

you essentially said it: "get off my buddy"

it makes absolutely zero sense as town to claim both your role and your buddy's role if you were masons
and even less than zero sense since jasonwazza was casting an RVS vote and there was absolutely no pressure on whymafia

also, since you've claimed, please tell all flavor of your claim

So, not only am I scum... but I'm Scum fakeclaiming a confirmed town role AND implicating my buddy ALL ON PAGE ONE.

You are too pro for me, drealmerz.

More defense for RVS

I feel like the both of you know better than to push on someone for that and to think that there's actually some sort of scum motivation there.

Tone deafness reads as scummy to me.

I'd typically agree, but ime drealmerz usually is that shallow.

Just stating meta.

I'd typically agree, but ime drealmerz usually is that shallow.

it's called playing the game straight, you know, how is best for town

so are you saying your claim is fake? why, if town, would you make such a claim, real or fake?

Why, if town, would you believe a P1 claim that isn't negative utility?

More defence

MariaR, why are you voting me, if not for the Mason claim?

Acceptable I suppose.

Hey drealmerz...

If I'm scum, there is a vowel in the second place of my buddy's name.

Enjoy your analysis.

Banter

I wouldn't shed any tears over a dreal lynch, but it would be a policy lynch in my eyes because this is just how he plays.

Meta

you make no sense, I play many different ways

and all I did was talk about and push a little on something I found suspicious, that is how you're supposed to play, imo

You always treat obvious joke posts as being scum motivated.

You always push superficial, NAI bullshit as being proof of alignment.

Always.

Another post mentioning dreal's meta

61-65 is about what I'd expect to see from drealmerz as town.

I'm not saying he can't be scum, but if he is it's not because of his push on me.

Why else would he be scum?

aye I already rescinded my push on you (wait, did I not unvote?) realizing I over-reacted because of it being a joke-claim - I still don't like it and it gives me pings, but not as bad as it did initially

honesty though, scum-me probably would have done the same thing!!!

Which is why it's NAI and I'm not proclaiming you as town over it.

What does NAI mean?

I'll claim, for shiggles.

I am Hinata, Town Swordslinger.

My ability name is "Sling That Sword", and I use it to kill people.

Fun, huh?

Only one to participate in the "mass claim". As a power role, it's quite risky to claim early d1 .. unless he's gambiting, which I doubt

Night action, but it's not x-shot.

Just explaining role

VOTE: WhyMafia

No explanation.

and say I become conf town? What would you do then?

Role != Alignment

Just a fact

And don't worry, I'll hit scum toNight, guys. Town people, don't shoot me. If you don't believe me, lynch me tomorrow.

How will we know if you "hit" scum tonight. They could very well do a no kill gambit. Could they not?

They could, but it would be playing against win con.

Just a statement

Not really.

VOTE: MariaR

Way over prod range and still not prodded. Must be active in the mafia pt.

Slight town points. Seems like beginning of push. However, I think this is more on the mod. The inactivity on this game is quite disappointing.

WhyMafia, every time you post I get the urge to lynch you.

Immediately changes push to me, yet hasn't once provided an analysis of my posts

WhyMafia, every time you post I get the urge to lynch you.

why? they're the least bothersome poster here to me

you, on the other hand, give a similar feeling each time you post

LAMIST shit is LAMIST.

What the hell is LAMIST

I loled.

Didn't understand this interaction, but it's not scum hunting

I could see myself lynching gerry.

Yay once again doesn't provide specific posts to reference on.

gerryoat & WhyMafia scumteam

Game over.

Feel free to concede and save us all the time and hassle of going through the motions of lynching you.

Erm .. what?

gerryoat & WhyMafia scumteam

Game over.

Feel free to concede and save us all the time and hassle of going through the motions of lynching you.

I'm kind of concerned that you're assuming the scum team this early. Go ahead and lynch us then. Let's see if your hypothesis is correct

Empty posturing. I'm already voting one of you.

Ok?

VOTE: gerryoat

If I'm wrong about WhyMafia, I'm not the biggest fan of the players on his wagon.

Yet you think Gerry and I are scum buddies, and want to lynch me yourself. What makes your suspicion any different from theirs?


All in all, he appears to be active, but has done little (if any) scumhunting and expects wagons to start from simple statements of "he is scum"
VOTE: StoneCold

[WhyMafia]

WgyMafia,

You can't actually expect a case of " he hasn't presented a case" to actually fly ON PAGE FUCKING EIGHT.

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

Then for once explain which posts seem scummy ....

[WhyMafia]

WgyMafia,

You can't actually expect a case of " he hasn't presented a case" to actually fly ON PAGE FUCKING EIGHT.

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

You would Gerry and I wouldn't be stupid enough to do that.

[WhyMafia]

WgyMafia,

You can't actually expect a case of " he hasn't presented a case" to actually fly ON PAGE FUCKING EIGHT.

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

You would Gerry and I wouldn't be stupid enough to do that.

Think*

[WhyMafia]

JasonWazza and Bellsprout prodded.

Hype train

[WhyMafia]

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

This sentence actually is a contradiction. You're implying that the reason you want him dead is his push, but you scumread him before then. You're also saying in the sentence before then that since it's page 8, you have little to go on, yet claim to say that you found both mafia already and that it was easy. This is actually 2 contradictions more I think about it.

Wrong, and misrep.

His scummy posting is why I want him dead, of which that loltastic case was only the latest example.

WgyMafia,

You can't actually expect a case of " he hasn't presented a case" to actually fly ON PAGE FUCKING EIGHT.

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

Then for once explain which posts seem scummy ....

[WhyMafia]

Still waiting StoneCold

[WhyMafia]

Regardless, you are voting him for something you think was bad play, but seems like you are just stating that it's bad town play. I don't necessarily think it was that bad of a play, it did help us get things rolling in this game.

I think SC should be off limit for the day.

It still is extremely sub-optimal town play. I do see how he can be town (not that I like it)

UNVOTE: all
We should probably get a lynch target asap considering most players here don't post much and day ends relatively soon

[WhyMafia]

omfg we do not need a deadline extension WTF

this is a MICRO and ppl are INACTIVE

that is the LAST THING WE NEED

if anything it needs SPED UP so ppl get their shit in gear

Disagree. We need more discussion. Maybe like a 2-3 extension

[WhyMafia]

Sorry everyone I'm here I've been losing a lot of motivation to play and I feel bad just reading everyones posts and lurking I think Stone cold is scum mostly because of his reactions early game and nothing else has impressed me I'm trying to sort Gerry as we speak but I want to say throw the meta away cause Gerry's said he's trying to be less aggro before so it's really NAI

omfg we do not need a deadline extension WTF

this is a MICRO and ppl are INACTIVE

that is the LAST THING WE NEED

if anything it needs SPED UP so ppl get their shit in gear

Disagree. We need more discussion. Maybe like a 2-3 extension

Day*

[WhyMafia]

i think dreal is town here, stone cold is prob town too. severa, you are prob town too.

Mind explaining why?

[WhyMafia]

I have information

we have non-mafia killing roles/PRs in this game

Why the frick would we no lynch.

Assuming this info is correct, we have 2 nk per night. If mafia is two people, and nk is another guy, we have the risk of being 4 town: 2 maf: 1 nk

I don't like the odds of that. Lynching can also lead to us forming some associations that x player made

[WhyMafia]

Actually, because i don't see the downside, the Godfather i know of is called Garon.

No use not putting the name in since i already claimed the knowledge.

And why is it that so many fucking games have people getting personal emotions with others and whatnot getting involved in ways that detract from the game?

I'm ok with you guys playing as you play, but for fucks sake keep the personal issues with other players out of it.

Well rip chances of ever finding the godfather

[WhyMafia]

Catching up, didnt realize game resumed

[WhyMafia]

Deadline approaching town lynched Jason.

Wait what we already lynched
;-;
We're in twilight then?
I'm re-reading from p1 bc I hardly remember what happened XD

[WhyMafia]

If there is investigative, it just leaves you and WhyMafia.

Why, you gotta post dude.

I don't wish to full claim at this point in the game, but I am not invest

[WhyMafia]

All caught up

jason is like really obvs mafia, you guys suck

I think so too, I just need some clarification.

How am I your top townread Jason? Like I've read my ISO and it doesn't deserve top townread.

Easy, my thought patterns line up with yours, and i can see your posts coming from town.

(that and Whymafia and boonskiies are smaller town reads.)

notice how jason never even explained why he thinks i'm scum lol

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

This sentence actually is a contradiction. You're implying that the reason you want him dead is his push, but you scumread him before then. You're also saying in the sentence before then that since it's page 8, you have little to go on, yet claim to say that you found both mafia already and that it was easy. This is actually 2 contradictions more I think about it.

That post is why i'm scum reading you.

This is a total fucking strawman, and there is no way you can't see it as a strawman.

As for Whymafia, I like his push on Stone, even though it's not great that he kept trying to push it when Stone made it clear he didn't want to actually explain the read.

I'm happy to justify my reads (in fact i have now justified all the proper ones so you know.)

Liking Jason so far.

Did this switch happen due to the normal/bastard confusion?

If so, once Cabd clarified, why did you continue to scum read him? If Jason flips as town, we have a guaranteed GF. If he flips as scum, idk what to think. Maybe as a start to discredit cop invests (he could claim miller)

Also, I believe if Jason is town, we definitely have an invest. Why else would there be a GF?

[WhyMafia]

All caught up

jason is like really obvs mafia, you guys suck

I think so too, I just need some clarification.

How am I your top townread Jason? Like I've read my ISO and it doesn't deserve top townread.

Easy, my thought patterns line up with yours, and i can see your posts coming from town.

(that and Whymafia and boonskiies are smaller town reads.)

notice how jason never even explained why he thinks i'm scum lol

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

This sentence actually is a contradiction. You're implying that the reason you want him dead is his push, but you scumread him before then. You're also saying in the sentence before then that since it's page 8, you have little to go on, yet claim to say that you found both mafia already and that it was easy. This is actually 2 contradictions more I think about it.

That post is why i'm scum reading you.

This is a total fucking strawman, and there is no way you can't see it as a strawman.

As for Whymafia, I like his push on Stone, even though it's not great that he kept trying to push it when Stone made it clear he didn't want to actually explain the read.

I'm happy to justify my reads (in fact i have now justified all the proper ones so you know.)

Liking Jason so far.

Did this switch happen due to the normal/bastard confusion?

If so, once Cabd clarified, why did you continue to scum read him? If Jason flips as town, we have a guaranteed GF. If he flips as scum, idk what to think. Maybe as a start to discredit cop invests (he could claim miller)

Also, I believe if Jason is town, we definitely have an invest. Why else would there be a GF?

[WhyMafia]

All caught up

jason is like really obvs mafia, you guys suck

I think so too, I just need some clarification.

How am I your top townread Jason? Like I've read my ISO and it doesn't deserve top townread.

Easy, my thought patterns line up with yours, and i can see your posts coming from town.

(that and Whymafia and boonskiies are smaller town reads.)

notice how jason never even explained why he thinks i'm scum lol

Your push is scum as shit, and that's why I want you and gerry dead.

This sentence actually is a contradiction. You're implying that the reason you want him dead is his push, but you scumread him before then. You're also saying in the sentence before then that since it's page 8, you have little to go on, yet claim to say that you found both mafia already and that it was easy. This is actually 2 contradictions more I think about it.

That post is why i'm scum reading you.

This is a total fucking strawman, and there is no way you can't see it as a strawman.

As for Whymafia, I like his push on Stone, even though it's not great that he kept trying to push it when Stone made it clear he didn't want to actually explain the read.

I'm happy to justify my reads (in fact i have now justified all the proper ones so you know.)

Liking Jason so far.

Did this switch happen due to the normal/bastard confusion?

If so, once Cabd clarified, why did you continue to scum read him? If Jason flips as town, we have a guaranteed GF. If he flips as scum, idk what to think. Maybe as a start to discredit cop invests (he could claim miller)

Also, I believe if Jason is town, we definitely have an invest. Why else would there be a GF?

huh
sorry for double post

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Jason

I believe that's the hammer.

We still had a few hours. Why bother hammering now?

[WhyMafia]

I passively Bodyguard Sakura

So this is like a Seraph Knight?

[WhyMafia]

@Gamme

Are there non-mafia killing roles?

[WhyMafia]

im lyncher, jason was my target. so i win automatically now. BLESS

Are you still allowed to vote/play the game?

[WhyMafia]

@Gamme

Are there non-mafia killing roles?

I cannot guarantee this but I do think there are

wtf
I feel like Dream and SC could've been setting up a gambit
Dream guaranteed there were non mafia killing roles

[WhyMafia]

@Gamme

Are there non-mafia killing roles?

I cannot guarantee this but I do think there are

wtf
I feel like Dream and SC could've been setting up a gambit
Dream guaranteed there were non mafia killing roles

What kind of gambit do you try and pull with that. And SC has claimed that he doesn't have a kill. And he didn't do his initial claim until after I pushed for a mass claim.

He did? I must've missed it.

My apologies for a bad theory :/

[WhyMafia]

Ok
I'll claim.
I didn't want to claim invest D1 bc I was afraid of maf killing Maria bc it would be logical for her to Seraph Knight me.
I am a novice lie detector

I would wish for Alisae to now say "I am town"

[WhyMafia]

Update

Town

:
Boon
MariaR
Gamma

Lean Town

:
Jason (I don't see Lyncher target in a micro being scum)

Scum

:
Alisae

How would a lyncher not be scum? I don't think it's likely their target would be scum, which means their target was town. That wouldn't work in towns favor

[WhyMafia]

btw WhyMafia I don't believe your claim at all.
Just saying.

*Shrug*
I can prove my role easily

[WhyMafia]

Update

Town

:
Boon
MariaR
Gamma

Lean Town

:
Jason (I don't see Lyncher target in a micro being scum)

Scum

:
Alisae

How would a lyncher not be scum? I don't think it's likely their target would be scum, which means their target was town. That wouldn't work in towns favor

Take a look at who I'm voting, brain.

Lyncher is by definition 3P. By scum, I mean killing scum.

I want Gerry dead because he isn't town.

I am sorry :/
Yeah. For now, lynching Gerry won't due us any harm. It saves us from a mislynch at least. If something major comes up, we can always switch off
for now
VOTE: Gerry

[WhyMafia]

role that makes sense to have a lot of protective - Gerry.*

Gerry claimed lyncher though??
How can he be town?

[WhyMafia]

Actually, I think Gerry is town. Let him come into the thread and have him explain. I was here and there about it yesterDay, but looking at it, I think he was trolling us with the lyncher.

oh didnt see this xd

[WhyMafia]

Why are we trying to lynch the lyncher if you think Jason is town? Does it matter if he's alive or not? Why waste a lynch on it?

Well I doubt mafia will waste an NK on them

If we have a town killing that isn't X-Shot it might be a good idea to kill him

If we don't, and he survives to LYLO, what guarantees will we have that he helps town?

[WhyMafia]

Question -> What's stopping a mafia kill on Alisae? It seems to me like all of this is for naught if Alisae gets night killed.

[WhyMafia]

yeah mafia is in SC/Alisae/Jason/mafiawhy thinking jason and SC could be a team.

Pretty sure Why is conftown due to his claim.

You shouldn't treat me as conf!Town until I prove my role though.

[WhyMafia]

Question -> What's stopping a mafia kill on Alisae? It seems to me like all of this is for naught if Alisae gets night killed.

The bodyguard, of course.

I'm assuming you mean Maria? She said she's BGing Saku whatever and she had to pick her other target D1
How do we know she picked Alisae?

[WhyMafia]

Question -> What's stopping a mafia kill on Alisae? It seems to me like all of this is for naught if Alisae gets night killed.

The bodyguard, of course.

like this might actually have been a scum slip if Maria was the NK target last night. I actually think Maria with that double seraph knight role would have been a great target for Night 1.

and isn't that role overpowered as hell?

[WhyMafia]

I'm Subaki nice guy

I'm a double bodyguard I passively Bodyguard Sakura (it's why I asked for flavor cause we get a clear)

and on day 1 I have to pick someone else to also bodyguard

for fuck sakes another game where I get lynched day 1 as town wanna know how many times I've been caught as scum on D1? 0 as town? 4 I think cause it wouldn't happen morons

It's why I said I can clear myself cause I'ma end up dead anyway

@StoneCold
I don't think she can re-pick
She passively guards Sakura and perm guards the name she picked D1?
Unless I'm reading this wrong

[WhyMafia]

Hype = Train

[WhyMafia]

I'm going to re-read this thread on Friday to get a solid grasp of Boon vs SC
till then
UNVOTE: All

[WhyMafia]

I mean, you're trying, I'll give you that. It's not going to work, because you are scum caught out.

All this posturing is very short-sighted because it's just going to bus you in the ass when I flip town.

As scum, all you care about is living throughout the day.

I'm town, I'm playing the long game here. I don't care if I die, because your ass ain't sticking around after I flip green.

if you were town, you would be horribly throwing the game and should feel terrible about it after the flip.

^ This is scum posting.

It's not game solving, it's blame slinging.

no, it's stating if you are town, you deserve fucking blame for how horrible you would be playing toDay. You're not that bad, though. So you're scum. I don't have to fucking state any more fucking cases why i think you're fucking scum. I've already god damn fucking did it that. Holy fuck. just stop fucking posting to me. This is fucking dumb. it's you or me to fucking day, so just stfu to me.

Well that escalated quickly

[WhyMafia]

A quick reminder for my players:

1. I don’t tolerate ad hom wars. If your posting is merely insulting a player without providing game content, you can expect a strike from me. Three strikes, you’re out. I’m fairly lenient about this, but posting “Fuck you” over and over again is simply not acceptable. Severe issues will be reported to the list mod(s) via my super sekrit chat room i definitely have with them all.

Idk what you're referring to

[WhyMafia]

Hi me here with 1`2 pages holy shit

xD
HF reading 12 pages of insults

[WhyMafia]

I kind of understand what you mean. But there's a certain point when you and SC just started needlessly tunneling each other.
Like we get you guys scum read each other, stop convincing each other and convince us instead.

How about this, I don't want to re-read this last interaction

Boon, you quote posts that you believe SC made that were scummy. Also explain why he's scum. Be objective.

SC, you quote posts that you believe Boon made that were scummy. Explain why he's scum. Be objective.

You guys can't respond to each others posts until both sides make their case. The rest of the players will ask questions, and you guys can refute points that the others make. You may not shift attention by saying "WELL SO AND SO IS SCUM AND I DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS POSTSSSS!" You may only say what their flaw in logic is. I feel like then we will be able to make a qualified decision

kthxbye

[WhyMafia]

Shit lost what page I was on LMFAO god dam it

R.I.P

[WhyMafia]

I kind of understand what you mean. But there's a certain point when you and SC just started needlessly tunneling each other.
Like we get you guys scum read each other, stop convincing each other and convince us instead.

How about this, I don't want to re-read this last interaction

Boon, you quote posts that you believe SC made that were scummy. Also explain why he's scum. Be objective.

SC, you quote posts that you believe Boon made that were scummy. Explain why he's scum. Be objective.

You guys can't respond to each others posts until both sides make their case. The rest of the players will ask questions, and you guys can refute points that the others make. You may not shift attention by saying "WELL SO AND SO IS SCUM AND I DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS POSTSSSS!" You may only say what their flaw in logic is. I feel like then we will be able to make a qualified decision

kthxbye

This will save us from useless bickering imo

[WhyMafia]

So we are pseudo gladiating SC and Boon?

Pretty much. They're not gonna let each other go

[WhyMafia]

Boon, you quote posts that you believe SC made that were scummy. Also explain why he's scum. Be objective.

I have, and so has Gerry. There is no town motivation in lynching what he thought was a lyncher in this game. At all. Then, when I tried to explain it, he attacked me for it. He is pushing that Alisae and I are scum together, yet pushing Alisae to vote me. Even said that Alisae was bussing me, but voting Gerry. We have you to confirm both Alisae and I as town, and he is trying his hardest not to let that happen. We talked about if Alisae gets shot? Then that will prove Alisae wasn't scum and gets rid of that option. Scum would have to kill a potential mislynch.

Ah
I'll re-check ISOs

[WhyMafia]

So we are pseudo gladiating SC and Boon?

Pretty much. They're not gonna let each other go

Give me reasons why I should let SC go?

I understand your scum read, I am just saying it's unlikely at this point that we'll get a lynch outside of SC or you today

[WhyMafia]

@boon How many protective roles is too much protective roles?

I actually think so many protection roles make it negative utility, especially considering that we could lose two town members in one day and not really able to NKA well because of the Seraph Knight. This being stated, I feel it makes sense that one of scum's role isn't overly powerful like the messenger, so they can at least protect themselves from death with the reflexive doctor.

NKA?

[WhyMafia]

Nope.
He's flipping town.

Why are you so confident in that?

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: StoneCold
L-1

[WhyMafia]

@WhyMafia - Any chance you went rogue and lie detected someone else?

No :/

[WhyMafia]

If there aren't any objections, I'll invest Boon tonight?

[WhyMafia]

My role pm specifically mentions Town killing roles
Why would a mafia get that specific of information

Maybe if you were BP scum? It would imply some sort of killing role

[WhyMafia]

I still feel really indignant

if you are town with that role and there's no direct killing roles, I imagine that there is a reason for it that we just aren't supposed to know. Hell, maybe scum can target someone and make that player's role a killrole, which would explain why Alisae died. (I'm actually a little curious about why scum took the chance killing Alisae with Maria as a seraph knight.)

Maria could be scum and be fake claiming seraph knight. The she could just choose not to kill the poeple she "protected"

[WhyMafia]

I actually assumed whoever was scum would try to get me lynched toDay.

Meh
You're one of my highest town reads

[WhyMafia]

I actually assumed whoever was scum would try to get me lynched toDay.

I like your targets and posts. Scum could pass you as scum JK, but I'm yet to find evidence of that. Just to be sure, I'll most likely invest you tonight

[WhyMafia]

Messenger - SC
JK - Boonskiies
double BG/seraph knight- Maria
Reflexive Doctor - Alisae
informed of a god father- Jason*
Informed if someone made a kill shot or not - Vaxkiller
role that makes sense to have a lot of protective - Gerry.*
immune to town killing roles - Gamma
Novice Lie Detector - WhyMafia

[WhyMafia]

I'm going to open things up a bit.

I'm like crazy powerful by the way.

IF I DIE TONIGHT ONLY, JASSONWAZZZA OR GERRYOAT ARE TO BLAME.

Just because I'm naming 2 people doesn't make it any less sure. If I die lynch one, if they flip town, the other IS scum. It Can NOT fail.

Why? I'm confused with all these roles.

[WhyMafia]

Also a VT role sounds like horse poop to me. Smells scummy.

Why are we JK'ing Wazza? Id rather you JK MariaR or gerryoat I think.

We are JKing me because i will be a confirmed townie tomorrow assuming i don't hit the godfather.

Honestly the only scenario we really need to play around is Gamma being town, as in either case of Gamma being GF/The other one, we have the game basically won.

Wait ..
Sorry I am not used to this. But how exactly will you getting roleblocked confirm you as town?

[WhyMafia]

we're fucked if Why is scum. but I don't think he is. I noted all y'alls JK targets.

Good thing I am town

[WhyMafia]

I have no idea of what to think this game

Massive agree

[WhyMafia]

WAIT I AM CHECKING BOON RIGHT

[WhyMafia]

I am town.

for it to be easier for you, why

Ty

[WhyMafia]

so it's 2/3 in Maria, Vax and WhyMafia. Can all 3 of you say your roles?

I think Maria claimed some kinda doc.

I dont remember what vax is

whymafia was a lie detector, i believe? anything else?

also can you guys out your flavors as well?

Why don't you out your true role as well? I doubt there's a VT in this game lmfao

[WhyMafia]

I am Takumi

[WhyMafia]

Actually, Why, i need you to ask how far your lie detector role can detect, like if i say a statement, will you get the trueness of that statement even if i wouldn't know how truthful it is?

I need to ask Cabd that
But unfortunately I am 2 shot :/
I left that part out because I didn't want it to influence who I invest
So I screwed up

And god this LYLO business is confusing AF
I know I am town, and that Jason is town

Which leaves scum in Maria, Gerry, and Vax
Can Vax and Jason please explain their roles in like one post.
I am still leaning on Gerry as a scum. I find it highly improbable that there's a VT

I don't buy Maria's claim at all as well

[WhyMafia]

waitttt shit WhyMafia is 100% mafia here I just remembered Serva's push on gerry that wasn't a bus and if Gerry is the gf like Jason that makes it even less likely

huh?

[WhyMafia]

Oh never mind just saw Vax's post quoted by Gerry

Jason, can you explain everything you said about your role in one post?

[WhyMafia]

Oh god, Vax's role is making me incredulous as well. What KIND OF SETUP IS THIS $RUG($fuz04i

[WhyMafia]

whymafia. did you already use both shots? if so when and on what posts?

Oh Boon and Alisae
I know its fishy af. I feel like scum were laughing their heads off when I didn't go against the curve and invested whatever was decided in the thread

[WhyMafia]

also why did you not ask cabd about how your role was used before the game, or even after 1 shot. what were the reports you got?

There are no lies detected in that statement
I thought it was black/white unless it was a bastard game

[WhyMafia]

Well that is slightly fucking annoying.

We have 1 confirmed town, a VT which makes no sense in the setup and is role fishing, a 2-shot lie detector who apparently was leading us on about using his shots, we have a pick who targets me person who basically acted like he had any ability whatsoever and a "double bodyguard" who's target doesn't exist.

Oh and i forgot to mention, all of you are fucking lying out your ass.

Im not role fishing. I thought it wouldn't be extremely helpful to know your role so actions can be coordinated/it may help weed out scum

[WhyMafia]

And can WhyMafia finally claim which 2 posts he used lie detector on.

Lemme go fishin for them

[WhyMafia]

I am town.

for it to be easier for you, why

[WhyMafia]

I am town

[WhyMafia]

since maria is confirmed not GF, it might be optimal to lynch in vax and whymafia. because if the non GF mafia is lynched, maria is clear, right?

Correct

So lynch pool is Me, you, or Vax (for today at least)

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia who do you think both mafia are?

Maria is strongest scum read
other I'm undecided

[WhyMafia]

My role is 2 shot, i didn't shoot last night.

And tomorrow if the Godfather isn't dead, i will be confirmed town.

For Maria, this was a few days before the deadline, and i'm pretty sure i had said it before this point but am too lazy to check.

So why is it that with me claiming this, did you not just say that you were on me?

And for both Gerry/Why, i have fucking claimed everything to do with my role, you guys continuing to push this shit is just plain stupid.

I AM CONFIRMED TOWN, I HAVE CLAIMED EVERYTHING ABOUT MY ROLE, YOU 2 STILL PUSHING THIS IS PATHETIC.

I am in no way pushing you. I understood you explained your role, I just want to re-iterate it in one post. If you don't want to, just say so lol

[WhyMafia]

Like roughly what does it say, other then the not being in this match part.

Also who here has played Fire Emblem before?

Not me

[WhyMafia]

So Maria
You think Vax and I are the scum team. Why?

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia basically wasted 2 lie detector shots on claimed roles at the time

That's bullshit and you know it

I repeatedly asked who I should invest. You had ample time to make a case on who I should invest
Trying to manipulate others with a direct lie
I found the scum team

It's Gerry + Maria

[WhyMafia]

Like at their interactions lmao

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia why did you check who people told you and not go after others did not expect or think scum would nk who you said you'd check?

I am sorry :/

I didn't know how to properly play the role. I thought that
A) those players were the most valuable to clear
B) that scum would assume to kill someone else bc I would most likely not check the person I claim to check

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Vax

[WhyMafia]

gg guys

[WhyMafia]

Your vote will be counted so long as you bold it or use the vote tag

For a sec i was scared Jason pretended to vote, but NOPE

[WhyMafia]

Can't believe this happened XD

[WhyMafia]

jason, you're garbage. we had auto win and you fucked it up

Were you actually VT xD

[WhyMafia]

jason thinks just cause he's confirmed town means he's above everyone else and doesnt have to discuss reads with anyone, that's the only reason this is upsetting

Rip :/

It was becoming an intense game tbh

[WhyMafia]

HEHEHHEEH

FIRST SCUM GAME GOT THE WWWWWW

[WhyMafia]

GG everyone
if Jason hadn't mis-played, it'd likely have been a scum loss most likely
We were preparing to bus Maria, and I know I probably would have lost a 1 v 1

[WhyMafia]

Can't believe nobody thought I was scum earlier
I was the GF btw xD

[WhyMafia]

My fake claim was literal bullshit

[WhyMafia]

I hardly even contributed yet got town cred

[WhyMafia]

Sry im fine, i should have played better. GG to the scum team for a good victory.

Did you target me to try and frame boon on N1?

We had no idea Boon was gonna target you

Just a matter of luck

[WhyMafia]

Like mine actually explained waht happened N1.... and... ugh

Nothing
Maria killed you
Boon blocked it

[WhyMafia]

Sry im fine, i should have played better. GG to the scum team for a good victory.

Did you target me to try and frame boon on N1?

We had no idea Boon was gonna target you

Just a matter of luck

Like mine actually explained waht happened N1.... and... ugh

Nothing
Maria killed you
Boon blocked it

meant to say Gamma*

[WhyMafia]

I blocked what

We killed you and Boon healed you

[WhyMafia]

Why tf did I get nightkilled

We didn't have a preference and for some reason I thought you were invest

[WhyMafia]

I was originally gonna claim VT or 1 shot vigilante ;p

[WhyMafia]

I was basically a goon although I gained a 1 shot bp if WhyMafia died.

HOLY SHIT! TOWN had EVERYTHING and we lost!

yeah
our roles were garbage compared to yours XD

[WhyMafia]

@Cabd can you release the dead chat?

[WhyMafia]

THERE WAS NONE

oh
rip

He can release the mafia chat if he wants

[WhyMafia]

Man, I nearly jailed Why that last night

I felt like you would trust me more

[WhyMafia]

Welp, Cabd claims shit balancer
please don't pull this weird shit next game, I want a game town can win pls

WTF WE WERE UNDERPOWERED AF RVHJ#F#jvjge

[WhyMafia]

If both sides think they were unfairly under powered, I'll call that good enough.

xd