Micro 707 | Finding Flavor - Over

[TesXX]

VOTE: Not_Mafia for using big letters and for being a hypocrite.

[TesXX]

VOTE: Not_Mafia for using big letters and for being a hypocrite.

I mean...

VOTE: ZZZX for not finishing his

[TesXX]

Hey ZZZX who should we nightkill????

[TesXX]

UH
WHOOPS
THAT WASNT A SCUMSLIP

[TesXX]

Hey ZZZX who should we nightkill????

DON'T READ THAT

[TesXX]

Hey ZZZX who should we nightkill????

I meant to say that in the mafia PT

[TesXX]

VOTE: TesXX
Obviously to scum to be scum....

OMGUS
VOTE: WhemePlay

[TesXX]

I claim serial killer innocent child two shot jester.

[TesXX]

I claim serial killer innocent child two shot jester.

Why not take it a step further and claim that cat role thing

Cat role? I thought YOU were the mafia cat!
You told me

[TesXX]

WhemePlay is clearly today's lynch. They're voting me.

[TesXX]

WhemePlay is clearly today's lynch. They're voting me.

Sounds like scum distancing to cover up your earlier slip. GG. I figured it all out, guys

VOTE: TesXX

You're WhemePlay's partner

[TesXX]

VOTE: tesxx

You can't not like my vote because it's your vote.

Shhhhhhh
Stop being serious in RVS

[TesXX]

Gamma, can you fullclaim your exact role?

Wouldn't some modifiers make it better if he doesn't claim his exact role?

[TesXX]

VOTE: tesxx

You can't not like my vote because it's your vote.

Shhhhhhh
Stop being serious in RVS

I misunderstood what WhemePlay was saying here. I thought he was saying to me that I can't just dislike it because it's a vote on me.

[TesXX]

one of gamma/blackstar is scum

No, zzzx and I are the mafia.

[TesXX]

one of gamma/blackstar is scum

How did you reach this assumption so quickly?

VOTE: ZZZX

Do you have a case?

[TesXX]

one of gamma/blackstar is scum

No, zzzx and I are the mafia.

FFS I told you I dont want to be mafia

WITH YOU

Sorry. Didn't choose it, Creature did.

[TesXX]

one of gamma/blackstar is scum

How did you reach this assumption so quickly?

Because I don't buy the miller claim.

Do you think the way he claimed seemed faked rather than genuine or do you just not believe that he would claim miller so early?

[TesXX]

Because you're not sure if it's real and you don't want to be caught out assuming one thing when everyone else assumes the other.

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

[TesXX]

My CC is serious

Is it possible in this setup for two people to roll the same number?

Yes.

[TesXX]

@Gamma

VOTE: ZZZX

Do you have a case?

[TesXX]

I was lying I'm not a miller

Then why did you claim miller in the first place?

[TesXX]

Is there a reason I shouldn't have?

I'm just wondering what your motivation was.

[TesXX]

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

Mostly because backtracking out of something like that can be awkward and painful and can lead to getting lynched as either alignment, actually.

But I'm wondering, how come you called it

an awkward scum reaction to a town claim

if it can happen as either alignment?

[TesXX]

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

Mostly because backtracking out of something like that can be awkward and painful and can lead to getting lynched as either alignment, actually.

But I'm wondering, how come you called it

an awkward scum reaction to a town claim

if it can happen as either alignment?

It's awkwardly trying to avoid the thing that can happen as either alignment, in a way that scum are more likely to do.

How is the specific way blackStar responded a way that scum is more likely to do?

[TesXX]

HELLO EVERYONE!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE!!!!

I DIDN'T LIKE WHEMEPLAYSIES' LATEST POSTS!!! it's cos they felt like they were faking an assessmentsies(hehe) of his votes!!! But it didn't feel real!!! SO I'LL VOTE EM!!!

VOTE: Whemeplay

- RILEY!

Can you explain what felt not-real about those posts?

[TesXX]

@WhemePlay you're gonna need more explanation than just:

VOTE: Blackstar

I don't like his posts.

I'm pretty sure I TR TesXX dude.
Sorta townread the other hydra kinda
And null on NM

That's whemes vote. I can answer for him since I asked him about it.
He said "I don't know. I got a feeling, just trust me."

Gut is not the most reliable way to base your reads. Try rereading and looking for what gave you this gut feeling.

No lol I'm not good at explaining reads so i don't do it

If you actually want to get people lynched or prevent people from getting lynched, you can't just say that you TR/SR them without actually backing it up.

[TesXX]

CH is town because Ari is playing almost exactly to his town meta.

The thing wrong with townreading somebody because they're acting like their town meta is that as scum, you'd obviously want to look back at your town meta and act like it to look towny.

WhemePlay is probably town because the hydra dissonance indicates genuine and not faked feelings.

People in hydras can fake different feelings.

N_M is ever so slightly a town lean because at least he's engaging.

Engaging is NAI.

Tes's posts don't feel right because of how intensely he was arguing against you reasoning earlier. He was defending me hard but there shouldn't be any reason for him to go that hard.

The reason I was defending you was because I disagreed with his reasoning against you. That's it.

[TesXX]

NM hasn't done anything besides that unexplained fake claim, so he's pretty null.

Won't disagree with this. He trolls all the time as both alignments.

If this is true, I don't get why you have a nullTR on him rather than a nullread.

[TesXX]

Is there a reason I shouldn't have?

I'm just wondering what your motivation was.

The reason I'm wondering this is because I made a theory that you might have claimed miller to get Gamma lynched, but then when Creature confirmed that multiple people can be the same role in this setup, claiming the same thing as Gamma wouldn't get Gamma lynched, which might be why you retracted your claim.

[TesXX]

[quote="In post 150

Sonia have you been lurking this whole time?

Why is this important to you?

Because i thought it awfully convenient you haven't posted until i ask mod if you have been prodded.

Well the answer is no I just got on and I saw my role and posted, Choose to believe what you will.

ok. this is just your first time on since the game started?

Yes.

Your full of shit

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=71318

[TesXX]

Tr for this gif <3

Uh, no. It's a gif.

[TesXX]

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

Obvious trolling is obvious.

[TesXX]

scum normally aren't the people who want to stand out they want to blend in middle of the pack

I disagree. Blending into the pack isn't good unless you have three days' worth of townies that are lynchbait.

[TesXX]

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

It's hard to put into words, but this feels a bit forced. I'll try to put it into words later since I'm leaving soon.

[TesXX]

I can put it into words for you.

That post isn't a post somebody would actually make in a scum PT. Therefore, Gamma responding the way he did is probably faked.

Yeah. Also, that seemed like if it were an alt it would be 120% trolling. Also, unless you're using mafSilver, there's an extremely low chance of you not realizing how different the main looks from the private thread, plus the fact that it would be unlikely for you to click on something like "Micro 707 MAFIA CHAT" thinking it's "Micro 707 | Finding Flavor - Day 1". To add on, there are very low mathematical chances of a Mafia Encryptor(2/25 I believe).

[TesXX]

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

There are just multiple ways that this seems like a forced way to try to look like you're sided with the town. VOTE: Gamma Emerald for now.

[TesXX]

List them. Go ahead.

I can put it into words for you.

That post isn't a post somebody would actually make in a scum PT. Therefore, Gamma responding the way he did is probably faked.

Yeah. Also, that seemed like if it were an alt it would be 120% trolling. Also, unless you're using mafSilver, there's an extremely low chance of you not realizing how different the main looks from the private thread, plus the fact that it would be unlikely for you to click on something like "Micro 707 MAFIA CHAT" thinking it's "Micro 707 | Finding Flavor - Day 1". To add on, there are very low mathematical chances of a Mafia Encryptor(2/25 I believe).

[TesXX]

Alright. Be aware I have made this same type of moronic statement before as town.

Could you give a link to it?

[TesXX]

I can put it into words for you.

That post isn't a post somebody would actually make in a scum PT. Therefore, Gamma responding the way he did is probably faked.

Yeah. Also, that seemed like if it were an alt it would be 120% trolling. Also, unless you're using mafSilver, there's an extremely low chance of you not realizing how different the main looks from the private thread, plus the fact that it would be unlikely for you to click on something like "Micro 707 | Finding Flavor - Day 1" thinking it's "Micro 707 MAFIA CHAT". To add on, there are very low mathematical chances of a Mafia Encryptor(2/25 I believe).

Edit

[TesXX]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69321
Looked for a contradiction in a player's reads and assumed Firebringer was in the game.

My problem is not with the fact that you would assume someone is in this game, but my problem is the reasoning you would scumread someone

if

you thought they were in this game.

[TesXX]

pegetop

[TesXX]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69321
Looked for a contradiction in a player's reads and assumed Firebringer was in the game.

There's a difference though: in that game, what you said would have been reasonable had Firebringer been in the game. Whereas here, even if you had reason to believe that that post was made by a player in this game, it's still obviously not a real slip, if only because nobody asks who to NK in the scum PT 2 days into Day 1.

(I think this is about what Tes was saying in 199, but that post was very hard to follow.)

Basically, ya.

[TesXX]

HELLO EVERYONE!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE!!!!

I DIDN'T LIKE WHEMEPLAYSIES' LATEST POSTS!!! it's cos they felt like they were faking an assessmentsies(hehe) of his votes!!! But it didn't feel real!!! SO I'LL VOTE EM!!!

VOTE: Whemeplay

- RILEY!

Can you explain what felt not-real about those posts?

@CH you forgot to respond to this post.

[TesXX]

this post was fucking awful like "I don't like this post" Why? Oh you're not gonna do that part just gonna vote with a shitty reason okay.

Awful awful fucking vote dear god

uh wut?

[TesXX]

I have like no drive rn
Please someone do something to make this game interesting or just lynch me

TOTALLY

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[TesXX]

I'm kinda reading Sonia as scum since she seems a bit too level headed

How is being level headed scum indicative?

[TesXX]

I'm kinda reading Sonia as scum since she seems a bit too level headed

How is being level headed scum indicative?

It's a meta thing. I know who she is and I feel she'd be a bit more fast and loose as town.

Can you include a town ISO and a scum ISO from games you were with her in?

[TesXX]

I'm kinda reading Sonia as scum since she seems a bit too level headed

How is being level headed scum indicative?

It's a meta thing. I know who she is and I feel she'd be a bit more fast and loose as town.

Can you include a town ISO and a scum ISO from games you were with her in?

Thing is I'm using her main accounts meta too

Then can I have links to ISOs on her main account?

[TesXX]

Pagetop for readslist

Town- CHEERFUL HYDRA
Town lean- WhemePlay, TesXX
Null/town- Not_Mafia
Null- xSoniaNevermindx
Null/scum- BlackStar, ZZZX
Scum lean- Gamma Emerald

How come the nullscumread on ZZZX?(If you've already explained this then I just missed it in your ISO side I'm tired)

[TesXX]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=69472
Town game on main: the looseness of play here caused a lynch on her pairing
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69080
Scum game on main: played very focused, going for my lynch near constantly
Might also put in some Sonia games

What's her name on her main account?

[TesXX]

I'll be reading through that meta stuffs tomorrow. I'm tired

[TesXX]

I have to leave soon, I'll comment on other stuff later.

Stop trying to meta me meta does not work well on me it's been proven false time and time again Gamma you should know exactly what I am talking about I can play like a raging ate as scum or calm as scum I can play calm as town and scum

Could you include links to ISOs where this is true? Was Gamma in any of those games?

[TesXX]

VOTE: Sonia
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

TOTALLY NOT

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[TesXX]

(also you should know that you're the type of player whom I'd be very afraid of as scum and there's no way I would single you out like that when I'd have perfectly easy targets in BlackStar and ZZZX)

Wait are you saying that you wouldn't go after Sonia if you were scum?

[TesXX]

Are you trying to do the "just lynch me" thing?
(It doesn't work)

[TesXX]

This guy is trying too hard to come off like a jokester and it's cringing and pinging me

I trolled in RVS. I'm scum illuminati confirmed.

[TesXX]

I'm slightly turned off from Tes mostly because of that wagon speed it didn't really feel rvsish but still watching him

What does a wagon speed have to do with alignment?

[TesXX]

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

There are just multiple ways that this seems like a forced way to try to look like you're sided with the town. VOTE: Gamma Emerald for now.

I dont understand this? Do you think Gamma is the one who posted that?
Was it a newb posting in the wrong game or was it someones alt?

I think it was just someone who posted I the wrong game or something, I'm not sure.

If its not game relevant can't mod just delete it and it gets disregarded?

If you delete a post then it can be inconvenient for post links.

[TesXX]

Big post incoming

[TesXX]

VOTE: NM

Your only post have been empty quotes, a video and lying about miller.
So I would like to know as well. What is the motivation behind it?

Did you make the same theory as I did(N_M claiming miller just to get gamma lynched)?

Is there a reason I shouldn't have?

I'm just wondering what your motivation was.

I'm interested in hearing this too

VOTE: Blackstar

I don't like his posts.

I'm pretty sure I TR TesXX dude.
Sorta townread the other hydra kinda
And null on NM

This feels too vague to me. Can you explain what you don't like about my posts and why you have your other reads?

No lol I'm not good at explaining reads so i don't do it

Lemme rephrase that, when i try to explain my reads. I do it poorly and it ends up doing bad things for me.

Just try to explain them in the best way you can. It won't help much if you literally just give reads that can't be backed up at all.

Pagetop for readslist

Town- CHEERFUL HYDRA
Town lean- WhemePlay, TesXX
Null/town- Not_Mafia
Null- xSoniaNevermindx
Null/scum- BlackStar, ZZZX
Scum lean- Gamma Emerald

I'm OK with this list except i would put Cheerful at null and trade gamma and notmafia places.

I was going to ask why you were nullTRing gamma and then you made a post before I finished this one.

Tes i see your vote is on Gamma. Is it just because of the scum slip thing?

Yes, I've explained why I don't like his reaction.

I think its more likely for him claiming miller to be town. I don't see the benefit of him doing that as scum.

The benefit in doing it as scum is that you wouldn't get scumread as much when there's a cop guilty report on you(optimal play for miller is to claim early, and scum wants to look like miller).

Guys Sonia is my biggest TR

-W

[quote="In post 150

Sonia have you been lurking this whole time?

Why is this important to you?

Because i thought it awfully convenient you haven't posted until i ask mod if you have been prodded.

Well the answer is no I just got on and I saw my role and posted, Choose to believe what you will.

ok. this is just your first time on since the game started?

Yes.

Your full of shit

Uh this push against Sonia is coming from someone who recently got prodded.

[TesXX]

[quote="In post 150

Sonia have you been lurking this whole time?

Why is this important to you?

Because i thought it awfully convenient you haven't posted until i ask mod if you have been prodded.

And it's not awfully convenient that you just recently posted after getting prodded?

[TesXX]

What about NotMafia? Whats his gain of going back and forth on the miller claim? Its like he is forcibly trying not to be sorted with that and his lack of game content.

I agree that he should post more game content.

[TesXX]

Are you saying you think its optimal for scum to claim miller?

For those who don't want to try to get a cop lynched, yes.

[TesXX]

Not quite the same. I asked about her and she came into game.

I was emailed and sent a message on my main to give notice of a prod.

That is true. I didn't take that into consideration.

[TesXX]

OK, even after NM claimed miller as well Gamma dint back down. He could has blown it off as random early stage antics but he wasn't swayed by NM claim.

He knew that there could be more than one of the same role in the game.

I can't see lynching Gamma just because you think it is optimal for scum to claim miller.

That's not the only reason I suspect him.

If you got a miller role as town would you wait to reveal until you got a guilty on you?

No.

Compair NM and Gamma for me.

Just a second.

[TesXX]

Compair NM and Gamma for me.

• With N_M, I first thought that he could be claiming miller just to get gamma lynched since the claim retract timing seemed convenient, but I think gamma has been acting suspicious, so that lowers the likelihood of scum!N_M trying to get town!gamma lynched. So I think N_M was probably trolling.
  
• At first when Gamma claimed miller, I was nullreading him, because scum or miller could claim miller that early. Now that I'm suspecting gamma, it was probably more likely that he was claiming because of possibility of guilty cop reports.

[TesXX]

That was my last post for tonight.

[TesXX]

@tes Why are you so hung up on Wheme posting after he's been prodded?

Already explained.

No
WhemePlay is obvtown
VOTE: NotMafia

Can you please explain how?

[TesXX]

I TRUST THE MILLER CLAIM FOR NOW!!!!!!!! IT'S MEAN TA LYNCH SOMEONE LIKE THAT!!! what if he was really miller?? D:

- RILEY!!!

Can you explain why you townread him? Also, you still need to answer this:

HELLO EVERYONE!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE!!!!

I DIDN'T LIKE WHEMEPLAYSIES' LATEST POSTS!!! it's cos they felt like they were faking an assessmentsies(hehe) of his votes!!! But it didn't feel real!!! SO I'LL VOTE EM!!!

VOTE: Whemeplay

- RILEY!

[TesXX]

He doesn't seem to be riding along on any wagon, and his points feel like they are coming from town.

Can you quote points that you think look towny?

[TesXX]

I TRUST THE MILLER CLAIM FOR NOW!!!!!!!! IT'S MEAN TA LYNCH SOMEONE LIKE THAT!!! what if he was really miller?? D:

- RILEY!!!

Can you explain why you townread him? Also, you still need to answer this:

HELLO EVERYONE!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE!!!!

I DIDN'T LIKE WHEMEPLAYSIES' LATEST POSTS!!! it's cos they felt like they were faking an assessmentsies(hehe) of his votes!!! But it didn't feel real!!! SO I'LL VOTE EM!!!

VOTE: Whemeplay

- RILEY!

Can you explain what felt not-real about those posts?

Edit
I put the wrong quote in the original posT

[TesXX]

@tes Why are you so hung up on Wheme posting after he's been prodded?

Already explained.

Not really. Everyone stopped posting. It's true that he called Sonia out earlier for low activity, but since everyone stopped being active I don't get why you felt like singling him out.

Because not everyone was prodded.

And then you said it's "convienient that he posted after being prodded". Lol why wouldn't somebody start posting again after they got a prod?

My brain shut down and I forgot that you get an email from Mafia Scum when you get PM'd. So I thought he had to be online to get that PM so quickly.

The most interesting thing about this to me is that you're trying to make him look bad yet it doesn't took like you're going to move your vote to him.

Because I thought there might have been an explanation to it.

[TesXX]

I'm going to be gone for a while today. I might be able to make some posts before I leave, I might not. I'll try to post when I'm back.

[TesXX]

Prod dodge shamelessly as I dodge this game for a bit.

Yay let's purposely just dodge the game.

[TesXX]

Tes why are you making such crude jabs?

I apologize if things I say come off as rude, it's not intended to be. I'll be more considerate about this.

I'm actually finding Tes' posts a little unsettling because of how hard he was trying to defend me against you. It doesn't feel quite right to me but I'm not sure if its just paranoia. {snipped}
VOTE: TesXX This feels right

This is a bullcrap reason to vote someone. So what if someone defended you a lot? I debate with what I disagree with.

Tes's posts don't feel right because of how intensely he was arguing against you reasoning earlier. He was defending me hard but there shouldn't be any reason for him to go that hard.

Explain how I was "intensely arguing" with him.

Spoiler: I may have missed some(I don't think I did) but I

Because you're not sure if it's real and you don't want to be caught out assuming one thing when everyone else assumes the other.

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

Mostly because backtracking out of something like that can be awkward and painful and can lead to getting lynched as either alignment, actually.

But I'm wondering, how come you called it

an awkward scum reaction to a town claim

if it can happen as either alignment?

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

Mostly because backtracking out of something like that can be awkward and painful and can lead to getting lynched as either alignment, actually.

But I'm wondering, how come you called it

an awkward scum reaction to a town claim

if it can happen as either alignment?

It's awkwardly trying to avoid the thing that can happen as either alignment, in a way that scum are more likely to do.

How is the specific way blackStar responded a way that scum is more likely to do?

It hasn't been long enough to form really strong reads, and your posts weren't that unreasonable so to me it felt a little bit like scum trying to earn townie points by defending me.

Scum defending a townie wouldn't get townie points(it can on some occasions, but this was not one of those). Either alignment can do it.

[TesXX]

Tes why are you making such crude jabs?

I apologize if things I say come off as rude, it's not intended to be. I'll be more considerate about this.

I'm actually finding Tes' posts a little unsettling because of how hard he was trying to defend me against you. It doesn't feel quite right to me but I'm not sure if its just paranoia. {snipped}
VOTE: TesXX This feels right

This is a bullcrap reason to vote someone. So what if someone defended you a lot? I debate with what I disagree with.

It just gave a bad feeling to me. It felt like you had ulterior motives.

Gutreads are not good.

Tes's posts don't feel right because of how intensely he was arguing against you reasoning earlier. He was defending me hard but there shouldn't be any reason for him to go that hard.

Explain how I was "intensely arguing" with him.

You went back and forth with him for a long while over something that wasn't that big of a deal. You were defending hard.

I wasn't intensely arguing. I was stubbornly arguing. There is a difference.

It wasn't something worth that much effort. That's why it felt off to me.

That didn't require effort. Defenses and pushes and stuff don't need effort if you're stating your genuine opinion.

Spoiler: I may have missed some(I don't think I did) but I

Because you're not sure if it's real and you don't want to be caught out assuming one thing when everyone else assumes the other.

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

Mostly because backtracking out of something like that can be awkward and painful and can lead to getting lynched as either alignment, actually.

But I'm wondering, how come you called it

an awkward scum reaction to a town claim

if it can happen as either alignment?

How would it be scum indicative to assume something different from someone else? Why would scum want to avoid assuming something others don't assume?

Mostly because backtracking out of something like that can be awkward and painful and can lead to getting lynched as either alignment, actually.

But I'm wondering, how come you called it

an awkward scum reaction to a town claim

if it can happen as either alignment?

It's awkwardly trying to avoid the thing that can happen as either alignment, in a way that scum are more likely to do.

How is the specific way blackStar responded a way that scum is more likely to do?

It hasn't been long enough to form really strong reads, and your posts weren't that unreasonable so to me it felt a little bit like scum trying to earn townie points by defending me.

Scum defending a townie wouldn't get townie points(it can on some occasions, but this was not one of those). Either alignment can do it.

Yes, they would. When someone defends you, you tend to think positively of them. If scum defends someone and they don't get lynched, then that person will probably return the favor and try to keep you alive.

No, people try to keep you alive because they townread you, not because you defended them from a lynch. The logic you're using here is omgus except with TRs instead of SRs.

If you defend them and they get lynched and flip town, then you look good because you weren't pushing for their lynch.

No, scum can easily defend town.

[TesXX]

Tes, can you please stop arguing against established site meta and start pushing your reads? This game needs more people to be doing that.
And can you take your vote off of Gamma? Because lynching him day 1 is dumb.

I'm voting gamma?

[TesXX]

Oh I thought I had unvoted him.
UNVOTE: Gamma
More posts coming

[TesXX]

(also you should know that you're the type of player whom I'd be very afraid of as scum and there's no way I would single you out like that when I'd have perfectly easy targets in BlackStar and ZZZX)

Wait are you saying that you wouldn't go after Sonia if you were scum?

@Something_Smart did you respond to this yet? If not do so, if so my bad.

[TesXX]

(also you should know that you're the type of player whom I'd be very afraid of as scum and there's no way I would single you out like that when I'd have perfectly easy targets in BlackStar and ZZZX)

Wait are you saying that you wouldn't go after Sonia if you were scum?

@Something_Smart did you respond to this yet? If not do so, if so my bad.

Also, about that, I don't think ZZZX is a perfectly good target. And BlackStar being a target only applies to town!blackStar and if BlackStar were scum with you then he wouldn't be a Town lynch target.

[TesXX]

(also you should know that you're the type of player whom I'd be very afraid of as scum and there's no way I would single you out like that when I'd have perfectly easy targets in BlackStar and ZZZX)

Wait are you saying that you wouldn't go after Sonia if you were scum?

@Something_Smart did you respond to this yet? If not do so, if so my bad.

Oh, I didn't. Yes, that's what I'm saying.

You could easily go after Sonia as scum.

[TesXX]

Of course I COULD. But going after Sonia as scum would be like climbing Everest after being told to take a walk.

Not really. You had reasons that you would SR her as town, so there's no reason for you to not push against town!her for those reasons if what she did is scummy.

[TesXX]

Of course I COULD. But going after Sonia as scum would be like climbing Everest after being told to take a walk.

Not really. You had reasons that you would SR her as town, so there's no reason for you to not push against town!her for those reasons if what she did is scummy when you're scum.

Edit, forgot to put that last part there if anyone is confused about what I was saying.

[TesXX]

I will post when I'm back.

[TesXX]

VOTE: NM

Your only post have been empty quotes, a video and lying about miller.
So I would like to know as well. What is the motivation behind it?

Awful awful fucking vote dear god

Better than your vote on S_S.

VOTE: Sonia
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

[TesXX]

He doesn't seem to be riding along on any wagon, and his points feel like they are coming from town.

Can you quote points that you think look towny?

Gamma can you respond to this?

[TesXX]

Also,

He doesn't seem to be riding along on any wagon

not sheeping wagons doesn't make you town.

[TesXX]

HELLO EVERYONE!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE!!!!

I DIDN'T LIKE WHEMEPLAYSIES' LATEST POSTS!!! it's cos they felt like they were faking an assessmentsies(hehe) of his votes!!! But it didn't feel real!!! SO I'LL VOTE EM!!!

VOTE: Whemeplay

- RILEY!

She still hasn't responded to my question about why she didn't think WP's votes were real, so I don't know if she's actually dodging my questions or if she just has barely any time to read most of the stuff going on.

I TRUST THE MILLER CLAIM FOR NOW!!!!!!!! IT'S MEAN TA LYNCH SOMEONE LIKE THAT!!! what if he was really miller?? D:

- RILEY!!!

I don't like the lack of explanation for trusting the miller claim, but again, the heads seem inactive so she might have an explanation coming up. I'm still nullreading this slot.

[TesXX]

I hope you aren't trying to discredit my vote with questions

This seems like literally dodging explaining a vote.
I don't like the logic in Srceen's defending of Gamma.

Tes i see your vote is on Gamma. Is it just because of the scum slip thing? I don't see it. I think its more likely for him claiming miller to be town. I don't see the benefit of him doing that as scum.

Scum benefits are obvious. Cop investigates mafia. Mafia isn't proven scum since they've claimed miller.

It seems it would handicap him with that much suspicion on him.

That's like saying "That guy wouldn't be so scummy if he was actually scum because that would make him suspicious!"

OK, even after NM claimed miller as well Gamma dint back down. He could has blown it off as random early stage antics but he wasn't swayed by NM claim.

Uh, N_M claimed miller. That does not rid the scum benefits of scum claiming miller.

[TesXX]

"I don't like this post" Why? Oh you're not gonna do that part just gonna vote with a shitty reason okay.

I can understand not liking it when people don't explain their votes/reasoning. I don't understand having that thought process and then saying stuff like:

Awful awful fucking vote dear god

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

---

UNVOTE:
actually, that's true I don't know why scum you would come for me of all people.

I don't like that S_S used this as reasoning to defend himself and I don't really like that you used this reasoning to back off him.

Why are you dodging this game

Because I put a lot of effort in this and I'm very tired atm plus reading Tes posts annoys the fuck out of me

Somebody's posts annoying you is a complete bullcrap reason to dodge a game. Yes I know it's not your only reason but it shouldn't be a reason at all.

[TesXX]

He doesn't seem to be riding along on any wagon, and his points feel like they are coming from town.

Can you quote points that you think look towny?

Gamma can you respond to this?

Quote points from WhemePlay that you think are towny.

[TesXX]

For those who wanted it,

Reads

Null

ZZZX, Not_Mafia, CHEERFUL HYDRA

Nullscum

Something_Smart

Slight Scumlean

WhemePlay

Scumlean

Gamma Emerald
xSoniaNevermindx, BlackStar

I have no townreads.

[TesXX]

For those who wanted it,

Reads

Null

ZZZX, Not_Mafia, CHEERFUL HYDRA

Nullscum

Something_Smart

Slight Scumlean

WhemePlay

Scumlean

Gamma Emerald
xSoniaNevermindx, BlackStar

I have no townreads.

Actually,

Null

ZZZX, Not_Mafia, CHEERFUL HYDRA

Nullscum

Something_Smart, WhemePlay

Scumlean

Gamma Emerald
xSoniaNevermindx, BlackStar

My scumread on WhemePlay is mostly because of associations with Gamma Emerald, who's only my third scumread. If Gamma were to flip scum, then WhemePlay would be lower on that readlist.

[TesXX]

Of course I COULD. But going after Sonia as scum would be like climbing Everest after being told to take a walk.

Not really. You had reasons that you would SR her as town, so there's no reason for you to not push against town!her for those reasons if what she did is scummy.

Assuming I can fake scumhunting perfectly, but given my scum record I clearly can't.

No, what I'm saying is, if you were scum and saw something that a town player did that you thought was scummy, you'd want to point it out to people because as scum you want townie lynches and it's better to use actually scummy things people did than to push complete bullcrap on people.

I have no townreads.

This means that something is wrong with your scumhunting process.
It means that you're looking through people's posts for scum motivation and not for town motivation

That's because it's easier to find scum thought process(which is more important than town thought process imo). There are some exceptions, but I usually don't get townreads for reasons much other than PoE until later in the game.

[TesXX]

VOTE: Blackstar

I don't like how he's questioning you

Uh, that's it? I appreciate the vote but you have to have more than that.

[TesXX]

To answer all of Tex: If you don't understand something that's your problem not mine.

No, it's your problem because you're supposed to explain yourself.
Nice point dodging, though.

[TesXX]

I wanted to see if anybody would react interestingly to me supposedly nullreading N_M.

This is my REAL readlist. My reads may change, but this a real list and I'm not faking reads for reactions.

Null

ZZZX, CHEERFUL HYDRA

Nullscum

Something_Smart, WhemePlay

Slight Scumlean

Not_Mafia

Scumlean

Gamma Emerald
xSoniaNevermindx, BlackStar

[TesXX]

That you did it

-____________-

[TesXX]

Of course I COULD. But going after Sonia as scum would be like climbing Everest after being told to take a walk.

Not really. You had reasons that you would SR her as town, so there's no reason for you to not push against town!her for those reasons if what she did is scummy.

Assuming I can fake scumhunting perfectly, but given my scum record I clearly can't.

No, what I'm saying is, if you were scum and saw something that a town player did that you thought was scummy, you'd want to point it out to people because as scum you want townie lynches and it's better to use actually scummy things people did than to push complete bullcrap on people.

You're still assuming that I can determine perfectly as scum what I would find scummy as town. Assuming I'm scum and she's town, I'd know that nothing she said was ACTUALLY scum motivated and so I'd have to fake it.

There can be things that, even though you

know

someone is town, you

would

scumread them for it if you hadn't known they were town.
For example, in this game where I was scum, I already knew who was town and who was scum, but there were town players who I knew I would've scumread if I were town.

[TesXX]

Here are a few WhemePlay posts I like

Sonia have you been lurking this whole time?

In the sequence following this post WP doesn't call the "lurking" scummy, they just question it

Uh how is questioning someone without thinking what they did is scummy alignment indicative?

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

There are just multiple ways that this seems like a forced way to try to look like you're sided with the town. VOTE: Gamma Emerald for now.

I dont understand this? Do you think Gamma is the one who posted that?
Was it a newb posting in the wrong game or was it someones alt?
If it was an alt slip mod would have gave a warning?
If its not game relevant can't mod just delete it and it gets disregarded?

This questioning seems towny, since it shows deep consideration of the situation.

Just because somebody's considering a situation a lot doesn't mean they're town.

When NM claimed miller my first thought was "wow someone got caught in a counter claim all ready."
Thats why i asked if it was possible to have 2 people role the same numbers.

I'd think WP would vote as soon as a cc happened if he were scum.

Why? If you don't know if there can be more than one person in the setup then it makes sense to ask first rather than just vote one of them.

I don't think this stuff makes WemePlay obvTown.

[TesXX]

HISIES EVERYONE!!!!! can someone tell me what is happening? :c

Everyone is scum

The illuminati took over

I'll give you an actual summary when I'm back.

[TesXX]

I'd policy lynch NM for him being NM

GUYS I SOLVED THE GAME WITH THIS A AMAZING STRTEGYA CALLED THE POLICY LINCH
BSSIACLYY YIU LINCH SOMEENE BECASUE YOUR PPISSED OFF AT THEM
BlackStar and Sonia can you please nightkill me?

the non game solving Tesx

[TesXX]

I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

[TesXX]

Take a look at Tes iso yes he asks a ton of questions but does he do anything with it after it's like he asks a question and moves on no effort put into it he's not trying to figure out players he's trying to make it seem like he is.

I'm sorry, you must actually read TesXX's ISO before pushing bs on him.
Thank you
--TesXX's security base computer system 0032

I understand Sonia's reasons now

Yeah, they're amazing.

I don't want to lynch you today anyway (your lynchbait history being one of the reasons).

Uh people can use their lynchbait history to get away with stuff.

He took an unpopular (but correct) opinion, it would have been unnecessary as scum

Just because an opinion is unpopular does not mean that you're town if you have it.

[TesXX]

I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

You're way overacting which makes me feel like we're onto something

By pretending to act like a complete idiot in all caps is just how I prove my point. And it is true that Sonia was using alternative facts.
And if anyone is thinking about using me "overreacting" as a way to direct attention off of Sonia, don't.

[TesXX]

To answer all of Tex: If you don't understand something that's your problem not mine.

You could literally use this info to death tunnel somebody with absolutely no reason whatsoever.

[TesXX]

Also @Sonia are you even going to defend yourself against any of my points or are you just going to ignore them?

[TesXX]

TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN

Ok, you guys most likely didn't know that I RVS trolled in my first town game. But that doesn't mean that it's 1% good reasoning to scumread someone based off of RVS trolling and this:

Given that I'd policy lynch NM for him being NM not really but I'd much rather lynch the shade posting

non game solving Tesx

Uh you want to lynch people for not gamesolving. So you choose me over N_M.

[TesXX]

Reevaluating I think NM is town

Can you explain?

[TesXX]

He seems to be putting in that sweet spot of try that I remember from my first game with him,Death Note Mafia.

His posts have been pretty simple so I think whatever meta he's copying is probably easy to copy.

[TesXX]

It seems I'm pretty much caught up now and Sonia actually hasn't claimed jester so VOTE: Sonia

[TesXX]

What
Explain

How about you just read my last few posts.

[TesXX]

On second thoughts I don't think scum makes such a wtf vote

Please don't tell me you're referring to my vote on Sonia.

[TesXX]

And if anyone has a good defense on Sonia, go ahead.

[TesXX]

On second thoughts I don't think scum makes such a wtf vote

Please don't tell me you're referring to my vote on Sonia.

I am

If my vote is a wtf vote then explain WHY it's a wtf vote and provide a good defense on Sonia.

[TesXX]

On second thoughts I don't think scum makes such a wtf vote

Also this is crap reasoning.

[TesXX]

What
Explain

Explain WhyNot.

Defence of what?

Defense against my case. Look through my posts and why I think Sonia is scum and if my vote really is a wtf vote then tell me why it is and tell me why my case is invalid.

[TesXX]

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

That is NOT AT ALL WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING.

[TesXX]

Only I get to post memes instead of content

I'm posting memes and content.

[TesXX]

The memes are content because they're true info on the game.
And @Sonia and/or BlackStar I know you're going to quote that saying "No, they're really not" so if you do that then explain WHY what I'm saying is false.

[TesXX]

[spoiler=These have been posts where I have called Sonia out on stuff.
@BlackStar and Sonia, I'm excited to see how you'll dodge my points this time.]

I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

Take a look at Tes iso yes he asks a ton of questions but does he do anything with it after it's like he asks a question and moves on no effort put into it he's not trying to figure out players he's trying to make it seem like he is.

I'm sorry, you must actually read TesXX's ISO before pushing bs on him.
Thank you
--TesXX's security base computer system 0032

I understand Sonia's reasons now

Yeah, they're amazing.

I don't want to lynch you today anyway (your lynchbait history being one of the reasons).

Uh people can use their lynchbait history to get away with stuff.

He took an unpopular (but correct) opinion, it would have been unnecessary as scum

Just because an opinion is unpopular does not mean that you're town if you have it.

To answer all of Tex: If you don't understand something that's your problem not mine.

You could literally use this info to death tunnel somebody with absolutely no reason whatsoever.

TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN

Ok, you guys most likely didn't know that I RVS trolled in my first town game. But that doesn't mean that it's 1% good reasoning to scumread someone based off of RVS trolling and this:

Given that I'd policy lynch NM for him being NM not really but I'd much rather lynch the shade posting

non game solving Tesx

Uh you want to lynch people for not gamesolving. So you choose me over N_M.

[/spoiler]

[TesXX]

I don't dodge posts I would just openly not answer them.

Great! Works just as well

Legit none of those

NONE OF THOSE

are points at all lmfao

Yes, they ARE points, you're ignoring the hell out of them.

[TesXX]

To answer all of Tex: If you don't understand something that's your problem not mine.

You could literally use this info to death tunnel somebody with absolutely no reason whatsoever.

GUYS THIS IS NOT A POINT. DON'T ASK ME WHY IT'S JUST NOT A POINT.

[TesXX]

Also I would prefer you explain how not being a Jester is a scumtell for Sonia instead of putting the burden of proof on me

That was a joke. I voted Sonia since she's not a jester.

[TesXX]

Sonia may be scum caught or wrong reasons

No, they're right reasons.

[TesXX]

I don't dodge posts I would just openly not answer them.

This is so town motivated that I can't even
P-edit holy-
you're on cocaine.

[TesXX]

Out of all the posts you quoted, this was the only part where you made a point.

TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN

Ok, you guys most likely didn't know that I RVS trolled in my first town game. But that doesn't mean that it's 1% good reasoning to scumread someone based off of RVS trolling and this:

Given that I'd policy lynch NM for him being NM not really but I'd much rather lynch the shade posting

non game solving Tesx

Uh you want to lynch people for not gamesolving. So you choose me over N_M.

Everything else was you just going "Sonia's posts are bad! They're so stupid! They're stupid and bad!" That's not a case. Making a point means explaining what you don't like about a post and pointing out scum intent behind it. You haven't done that

I am pointing out scum intent in Sonia's posts, which is trying to get me lynched. She's using complete bullcrap logic to get me lynched.
Yes, I have been saying that Sonia's posts are stupid and bad, because they're stupid and bad in ways that it would be ridiculous for her to be town if she made them.

[TesXX]

If somebody literally uses alternative facts against you and you point out that it's complete bullcrap and scumread them for it then it should be pretty obvious that you think their scum motivation is trying to get you lynched.

[TesXX]

,BlackStar

[TesXX]

If somebody literally uses alternative facts against you and you point out that it's complete bullcrap and scumread them for it then it should be pretty obvious that you think their scum motivation is trying to get you lynched.

[TesXX]

If somebody literally uses alternative facts against you and you point out that it's complete bullcrap and scumread them for it then it should be pretty obvious that you think their scum motivation is trying to get you lynched.

[TesXX]

If somebody literally uses alternative facts against you and you point out that it's complete bullcrap and scumread them for it then it should be pretty obvious that you think their scum motivation is trying to get you lynched.

[TesXX]

Can we stop abusing the universal mefia symbol

[TesXX]

If somebody literally uses alternative facts against you and you point out that it's complete bullcrap and scumread them for it then it should be pretty obvious that you think their scum motivation is trying to get you lynched.

Can we stop abusing the universal mefia symbol

Fuck
It broke

[TesXX]

Gamma can you quote what you think looks town motivated in literally any of Sonia's posts?

[TesXX]

Tes
You
ZZZX

How is Sonia townier than Z-

[TesXX]

N_M's town play seems pretty easy to mimic.

[TesXX]

N_M's town play seems pretty easy to mimic.

But when he's scum he tryhards

And he could use that past meta to fool everyone. And answer this:

Gamma can you quote what you think looks town motivated in literally any of Sonia's posts?

[TesXX]

Can you tell me what's scum motivated?

Can you read my posts?

[TesXX]

Can you tell me what's scum motivated?

Can you read my posts?

That wasn't meant to seem rude if it did.

[TesXX]

How the-
HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN

[TesXX]

I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

You're way overacting which makes me feel like we're onto something

I may have been overreacting but that's a way I prove points.
If I act like an idiot and use a bunch of sarcasm + also summarizing people's logic it puts the point in people's heads. And yes I extremely exaggerate but you get the point of what I'm calling them out on.
Also, if you push against someone for RVS trolling and act like town can't easily joke around and pretend to scumslip(after they've already

said

that

it was RVS trolling

)then you shouldn't be surprised if they overreact.

Also

, you haven't called out

your partner

Sonia for overreacting, so don't use me mimicking bullcrap logic as a way to direct attention off of her.

[TesXX]

What

the


fuck

Thats all I have to say...

Whats wrong with you people...

Welcome to Micro 707 | Finding Flavor.

[TesXX]

What is ZZZX even doing

I have no idea.
ZZZX can you give us any stances please?

[TesXX]

Like, what do you think of who's acting scummy or towny right now?

[TesXX]

I am leaning town on you, I have no idea what gamma is but its weird. I will talk about the rest later

NM I have no fucking idea im done with him

SS looks town so far.

Others I will comment later I am sleepy and those come from the top of my head

Okay. I'm interested to see your explanations.

[TesXX]

I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

You're way overacting which makes me feel like we're onto something

I may have been overreacting but that's a way I prove points.
If I act like an idiot and use a bunch of sarcasm + also summarizing people's logic it puts the point in people's heads. And yes I extremely exaggerate but you get the point of what I'm calling them out on.
Also, if you push against someone for RVS trolling and act like town can't easily joke around and pretend to scumslip(after they've already

said

that

it was RVS trolling

)then you shouldn't be surprised if they overreact.

Also

, you haven't called out

your partner

Sonia for overreacting, so don't use me mimicking bullcrap logic as a way to direct attention off of her.

You overreacted first and it didn't feel justified. As soon as you got more votes on you, you went into full meltdown mode and I saw it as scum flailing which is why I called you out

It's not the fact that people have been voting me, it's the reasoning.

Your questions are asnine

Just like you and Sonia saying I haven't been scumhunting.

you're brushing off the truth

the truth

the truth

the truth

You are on cocaine right now.

you keep on OMGUSing and saying that Sonia and I are scum just because we scum read you

Uh no, I wouldn't call you scum for it if you has actually been scumreading me FOR THINGS THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY DONE.

[TesXX]

VOTE: TesXX
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

BlackStar tell me is this vote where I OMGUS'd Something_Smart scummy? It's not to me.

[TesXX]

You said that I haven't been scumhunting but let's just pretend for ONE SECOND that that is true.

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

There is BIG difference between me saying "Sonia's posts are bad" and saying "I don't like her so she's scum".

[TesXX]

VOTE: TesXX
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

BlackStar tell me is this vote where I OMGUS'd Something_Smart scummy? It's not to me.

When did SS vote you?

LOL you haven't read anything.
Now go away so I don't miss BlackStar's response.

[TesXX]

I hope you aren't trying to discredit my vote with questions

This seems like literally dodging explaining a vote.
I don't like the logic in Srceen's defending of Gamma.

Tes i see your vote is on Gamma. Is it just because of the scum slip thing? I don't see it. I think its more likely for him claiming miller to be town. I don't see the benefit of him doing that as scum.

Scum benefits are obvious. Cop investigates mafia. Mafia isn't proven scum since they've claimed miller.

It seems it would handicap him with that much suspicion on him.

That's like saying "That guy wouldn't be so scummy if he was actually scum because that would make him suspicious!"

OK, even after NM claimed miller as well Gamma dint back down. He could has blown it off as random early stage antics but he wasn't swayed by NM claim.

Uh, N_M claimed miller. That does not rid the scum benefits of scum claiming miller.

This is scumhunting.
ACTUALLY NO ITS NAUT A POINT.
SHUT UP IF YIU WANT TO SEY OHTREWISE.

[TesXX]

VOTE: TesXX
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

BlackStar tell me is this vote where I OMGUS'd Something_Smart scummy? It's not to me.

I don't remember the context of that

Tes self inserted into Sonia's position
Most self defeating self insert fic EVEEEERRR

Are you serious?
I was going to get BlackStar to say that my vote on S_S was no different from my vote on Sonia and then I would tell him I edited one of Sonia's posts.

[TesXX]

I hope you aren't trying to discredit my vote with questions

This seems like literally dodging explaining a vote.
I don't like the logic in Srceen's defending of Gamma.

Tes i see your vote is on Gamma. Is it just because of the scum slip thing? I don't see it. I think its more likely for him claiming miller to be town. I don't see the benefit of him doing that as scum.

Scum benefits are obvious. Cop investigates mafia. Mafia isn't proven scum since they've claimed miller.

It seems it would handicap him with that much suspicion on him.

That's like saying "That guy wouldn't be so scummy if he was actually scum because that would make him suspicious!"

OK, even after NM claimed miller as well Gamma dint back down. He could has blown it off as random early stage antics but he wasn't swayed by NM claim.

Uh, N_M claimed miller. That does not rid the scum benefits of scum claiming miller.

This is scumhunting.
ACTUALLY NO ITS NAUT A POINT.
SHUT UP IF YIU WANT TO SEY OHTREWISE.

Cool, you finally show us some posts with scum hunting. Now I'm wondering why you forgot how to do it for the last 10 pages.

Okay I'm going to speed click this ready set

[TesXX]

VOTE: TesXX
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

BlackStar tell me is this vote where I OMGUS'd Something_Smart scummy? It's not to me.

I don't remember the context of that

Tes self inserted into Sonia's position
Most self defeating self insert fic EVEEEERRR

Wtf

pedit- dumb plan, bro

Not really. I am telling the 100% truth when I say that I thought it would work.

[TesXX]

Well, now you know that it was Sonia who did it.
It's different now.

[TesXX]

Well, now you know that it was Sonia who did it.
It's different now.

I still don't remember the context. Remind me what lead up to that. I'm too lazy to look back

I will in a min or two.

[TesXX]

You said that I haven't been scumhunting but let's just pretend for ONE SECOND that that is true.

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

There is BIG difference between me saying "Sonia's posts are bad" and saying "I don't like her so she's scum".

You haven't said why they're bad. You just keep saying that they're bad because they're bad and that means she's scum. Scum always like to be vague like this

That

is not the same thing.

Even if what you said

was

true, there is still a HUGE difference between the two things I mentioned.
So don't try to redirect off what I said using something that isn't even true.

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

This is me showing what is flawed in pushing against somebody for RVS trolling.

[TesXX]

I've been writing you off this whole time as caught bad scum, but I took a step back and realized what you're actually doing. You're actually pretty clever. The vote count popped up and we saw that we needed to pick a lynch soon. Your wagon gained votes and got to L-2. From that moment on you've been distracting us from the deadline by starting arguments about trivial shit. We haven't gotten any closer to picking a lynch, we're almost out of time and the town is in disarray right now. Props, dude. I can't believe I didn't notice it sooner

Uh, no. I saw Sonia using alternative facts and I'm scumreading her.
It's not that hard to understand.

[TesXX]

You said that I haven't been scumhunting but let's just pretend for ONE SECOND that that is true.

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

There is BIG difference between me saying "Sonia's posts are bad" and saying "I don't like her so she's scum".

You haven't said why they're bad. You just keep saying that they're bad because they're bad and that means she's scum. Scum always like to be vague like this

That

is not the same thing.

Even if what you said

was

true, there is still a HUGE difference between the two things I mentioned.
So don't try to redirect off what I said using something that isn't even true.

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

This is me showing what is flawed in pushing against somebody for RVS trolling.

you didn't show how it's scummy. You just made a sarcastic remark

I showed that it's bullcrap reasoning.

They're one and the same.

NO, THEY ARE NOT.
There is a DIFFERENCE between saying somebody is scum because you dislike them and saying they're scum because their posts don't make sense.

[TesXX]

Hold on I messed up that quote tag.

[TesXX]

You said that I haven't been scumhunting but let's just pretend for ONE SECOND that that is true.

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

There is BIG difference between me saying "Sonia's posts are bad" and saying "I don't like her so she's scum".

You haven't said why they're bad. You just keep saying that they're bad because they're bad and that means she's scum. Scum always like to be vague like this

That

is not the same thing.

Even if what you said

was

true, there is still a HUGE difference between the two things I mentioned.
So don't try to redirect off what I said using something that isn't even true.

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

This is me showing what is flawed in pushing against somebody for RVS trolling.

you didn't show how it's scummy. You just made a sarcastic remark

I showed that it's bullcrap reasoning.

They're one and the same.

NO, THEY ARE NOT.
There is a DIFFERENCE between saying somebody is scum because you dislike them and saying they're scum because their posts don't make sense.

[TesXX]

VOTE: Something_Smart for defending me.

[TesXX]

Lol JustKidding UNVOTE:
About to respond to that post.

[TesXX]

Can we please stop the quote pyramids.

I will say that I saw through Tes's gambit immediately and refrained from saying anything so as not to ruin it (although I didn't expect BlackStar to fall for it). And honestly at this point I'm going to say that Tes is either scum playing the most insane refuge in audacity strategy I've ever seen or he's just town honestly trying increasingly desperate measures to get his points across. The way to think about it is this: scum are very in control of how they come across because that is their main goal: to come across in a towny way. For town, controlling how they come across is secondary to scumhunting and so the vast majority of the time, people trying weird methods like what he's doing are inexperienced town.

I actually disagree with this reasoning. Gambits like the one I tried are easy for scum to fake.

Otherwise, I'd like people to move to Not_Mafia.

N_M is not the towniest person in the world(I'm not TRing any of his actions) but I honestly think he's town by PoE.

(However, if by some miracle people

would

be up for a BlackStar wagon, I'd be more than willing. But I don't find that likely.)

If prefer that he'd be a day two lynch. However if nobody can compromise on lynching Sonia and people can compromise on lynching BlackStar then I'll vote him today and lynch Sonia tomorrow.

[TesXX]

Creature where are you finding these images?

[TesXX]

So your read on Tes is basically gut.

I mean, I ain't the one in question but whats wrong with Gut-reads?

The thing wrong is that gutreads have no logic whatsoever in them. They're just gut.
Scum can easily say "oh I have a gut read on that person let's lynch him" which is why gut alone is not reliable.

He's made it clear that he wants me lynched. How better to accomplish this goal than to trick me into saying something that makes me look like a hypocrite?

I wasn't trying to make you look like a hypocrite. I was trying to turn you against Sonia.

policy lynch.

[TesXX]

So your read on Tes is basically gut.

That and everything else that I've already said.

So looking through your ISO I've found the following reasons:

• He defended you which you thought was buddying
  
• He poked at Wheme for posting after being prodded which seemed like a discredit
  
• He overreacted when under pressure

Do you believe that any of these points are major?

And, related question: what are your thoughts about my read on him? Do you trust yourself to read him more than you trust me to read him?

So your read on Tes is basically gut.

I mean, I ain't the one in question but whats wrong with Gut-reads?

Nothing, but you shouldn't trust gut over evidence when evidence is available, and I want people to start listening to my reasoning. Also, gutreads tend to go wrong on people playing the way Tes is.

You didn't mention my other reasons: he hasn't really scum hunted

@BlackStar & Sonia -
You can say that my scumhunting has been bad. Or that I haven't done a lot of scumhunting.
But you CANNOT SAY that I have not been scumhunting.

, he's been OMGUSing a lot

It's not the fact that people have been voting me, it's the reasoning.

, he deflects all the time instead of making actual arguments and he derailed the entire game with bs arguments to keep the town from deciding on a lynch.

I've been writing you off this whole time as caught bad scum, but I took a step back and realized what you're actually doing. You're actually pretty clever. The vote count popped up and we saw that we needed to pick a lynch soon. Your wagon gained votes and got to L-2. From that moment on you've been distracting us from the deadline by starting arguments about trivial shit. We haven't gotten any closer to picking a lynch, we're almost out of time and the town is in disarray right now. Props, dude. I can't believe I didn't notice it sooner

Uh, no. I saw Sonia using alternative facts and I'm scumreading her.
It's not that hard to understand.

[TesXX]

Something went wrong with this quote tag.

From what I've seen, OMGUS is the only reason he's been calling me and sonia scum

That isn't true. For you it's the reasons WHY and for Sonia it's that + other stuff that I've said in my iso.

He was the leading wagon and as soon as that happened he started losing it and went into full melt down mode for like 15 pages.

Uh no.
I screamed in all caps because I was mimicking.
Here are the posts where you could say I'm having a full meltdown on a day I'm feeling generous:

Spoiler:

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

That is NOT AT ALL WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING.

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I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

You're way overacting which makes me feel like we're onto something

I may have been overreacting but that's a way I prove points.
If I act like an idiot and use a bunch of sarcasm + also summarizing people's logic it puts the point in people's heads. And yes I extremely exaggerate but you get the point of what I'm calling them out on.
Also, if you push against someone for RVS trolling and act like town can't easily joke around and pretend to scumslip(after they've already

said

that

it was RVS trolling

)then you shouldn't be surprised if they overreact.

Also

, you haven't called out

your partner

Sonia for overreacting, so don't use me mimicking bullcrap logic as a way to direct attention off of her.

You overreacted first and it didn't feel justified. As soon as you got more votes on you, you went into full meltdown mode and I saw it as scum flailing which is why I called you out

It's not the fact that people have been voting me, it's the reasoning.

Your questions are asnine

Just like you and Sonia saying I haven't been scumhunting.

you're brushing off the truth

the truth

the truth

the truth

You are on cocaine right now.

you keep on OMGUSing and saying that Sonia and I are scum just because we scum read you

Uh no, I wouldn't call you scum for it if you has actually been scumreading me FOR THINGS THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY DONE.

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You said that I haven't been scumhunting but let's just pretend for ONE SECOND that that is true.

All you've said is that you don't like sonia so she's scum.

There is BIG difference between me saying "Sonia's posts are bad" and saying "I don't like her so she's scum".

You haven't said why they're bad. You just keep saying that they're bad because they're bad and that means she's scum. Scum always like to be vague like this

That

is not the same thing.

Even if what you said

was

true, there is still a HUGE difference between the two things I mentioned.
So don't try to redirect off what I said using something that isn't even true.

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

This is me showing what is flawed in pushing against somebody for RVS trolling.

you didn't show how it's scummy. You just made a sarcastic remark

I showed that it's bullcrap reasoning.

They're one and the same.

NO, THEY ARE NOT.
There is a DIFFERENCE between saying somebody is scum because you dislike them and saying they're scum because their posts don't make sense.

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[TesXX]

Well, now you know that it was Sonia who did it.
It's different now.

I still don't remember the context. Remind me what lead up to that. I'm too lazy to look back

I will but first, what circumstances do you think OMGUS isn't scummy?
You have two choices right now:

• Go back and read the exact situation Sonia was in and say those circumstances are when OMGUS isn't scummy
  
• Tell me the actual circumstances where you think it isn't scummy

[TesXX]

(Also Tes you see the context for the policy lynch quote right?)

Yes. I know it's not completely a policy lynch.
But policy lynches are still disgusting.

[TesXX]

Why?

It's literally lynching them for bad play rather than lynching them BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY'RE SCUM.

[TesXX]

So we should encourage scum lurking?

If you think N_M's lurking is scum indicative then that's not a policy lynch.

[TesXX]

@Gamma I'm pretty sure you haven't explained why you're scumreading me yet.

[TesXX]

I tr Tess

Please put more than this.

[TesXX]

I've already explained the problem with gut reads.

[TesXX]

I felt his early game was scummy as fuck and he also annoys me so could be a bit of bias but oh well!

I do have a bias towards him. But oh well! I've been needing to use my bias enough anyways.

Tes isn't scumhunting he's asking questions to look busy

he also did this awful early game play to come off like he was joking and he over did it on so many levels

SOME GUY TROLLED IN RVS WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ALSO NEED TO GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TESXX HAS NEVER OVERDONE TROLLING IN RVS AS TOWN AND OBVIOUSLY TROLLING IN RVS IS TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE TOWN.
#MakeTheStrawberriesOfIlluminatiGreatAgain

You're way overacting which makes me feel like we're onto something

By pretending to act like a complete idiot in all caps is just how I prove my point. And it is true that Sonia was using alternative facts.
And if anyone is thinking about using me "overreacting" as a way to direct attention off of Sonia, don't.

What alternative facts?

"Tes hasn't scumhunted"

[TesXX]

Only half way through my ISO and I've already made this:

Spoiler: BIG QUOTE WALLPOST WARNING

@WhemePlay you're gonna need more explanation than just:

VOTE: Blackstar

I don't like his posts.

I'm pretty sure I TR TesXX dude.
Sorta townread the other hydra kinda
And null on NM

That's whemes vote. I can answer for him since I asked him about it.
He said "I don't know. I got a feeling, just trust me."

Gut is not the most reliable way to base your reads. Try rereading and looking for what gave you this gut feeling.

No lol I'm not good at explaining reads so i don't do it

If you actually want to get people lynched or prevent people from getting lynched, you can't just say that you TR/SR them without actually backing it up.

CH is town because Ari is playing almost exactly to his town meta.

The thing wrong with townreading somebody because they're acting like their town meta is that as scum, you'd obviously want to look back at your town meta and act like it to look towny.

WhemePlay is probably town because the hydra dissonance indicates genuine and not faked feelings.

People in hydras can fake different feelings.

N_M is ever so slightly a town lean because at least he's engaging.

Engaging is NAI.

Tes's posts don't feel right because of how intensely he was arguing against you reasoning earlier. He was defending me hard but there shouldn't be any reason for him to go that hard.

The reason I was defending you was because I disagreed with his reasoning against you. That's it.

NM hasn't done anything besides that unexplained fake claim, so he's pretty null.

Won't disagree with this. He trolls all the time as both alignments.

If this is true, I don't get why you have a nullTR on him rather than a nullread.

Is there a reason I shouldn't have?

I'm just wondering what your motivation was.

The reason I'm wondering this is because I made a theory that you might have claimed miller to get Gamma lynched, but then when Creature confirmed that multiple people can be the same role in this setup, claiming the same thing as Gamma wouldn't get Gamma lynched, which might be why you retracted your claim.

Tr for this gif <3

Uh, no. It's a gif.

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

It's hard to put into words, but this feels a bit forced. I'll try to put it into words later since I'm leaving soon.

I can put it into words for you.

That post isn't a post somebody would actually make in a scum PT. Therefore, Gamma responding the way he did is probably faked.

Yeah. Also, that seemed like if it were an alt it would be 120% trolling. Also, unless you're using mafSilver, there's an extremely low chance of you not realizing how different the main looks from the private thread, plus the fact that it would be unlikely for you to click on something like "Micro 707 MAFIA CHAT" thinking it's "Micro 707 | Finding Flavor - Day 1". To add on, there are very low mathematical chances of a Mafia Encryptor(2/25 I believe).

What the hell? If that wasn't obviously not an alt I would start trying to find who it was and lynch the sorry sap who scumslipped.

There are just multiple ways that this seems like a forced way to try to look like you're sided with the town. VOTE: Gamma Emerald for now.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69321
Looked for a contradiction in a player's reads and assumed Firebringer was in the game.

My problem is not with the fact that you would assume someone is in this game, but my problem is the reasoning you would scumread someone

if

you thought they were in this game.

I have like no drive rn
Please someone do something to make this game interesting or just lynch me

TOTALLY

N

o

t

A

t

E

VOTE: Sonia
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

TOTALLY NOT

O

M

G

U

S

!

This guy is trying too hard to come off like a jokester and it's cringing and pinging me

I trolled in RVS. I'm scum illuminati confirmed.

VOTE: NM

Your only post have been empty quotes, a video and lying about miller.
So I would like to know as well. What is the motivation behind it?

Did you make the same theory as I did(N_M claiming miller just to get gamma lynched)?

Is there a reason I shouldn't have?

I'm just wondering what your motivation was.

I'm interested in hearing this too

VOTE: Blackstar

I don't like his posts.

I'm pretty sure I TR TesXX dude.
Sorta townread the other hydra kinda
And null on NM

This feels too vague to me. Can you explain what you don't like about my posts and why you have your other reads?

No lol I'm not good at explaining reads so i don't do it

Lemme rephrase that, when i try to explain my reads. I do it poorly and it ends up doing bad things for me.

Just try to explain them in the best way you can. It won't help much if you literally just give reads that can't be backed up at all.

Pagetop for readslist

Town- CHEERFUL HYDRA
Town lean- WhemePlay, TesXX
Null/town- Not_Mafia
Null- xSoniaNevermindx
Null/scum- BlackStar, ZZZX
Scum lean- Gamma Emerald

I'm OK with this list except i would put Cheerful at null and trade gamma and notmafia places.

I was going to ask why you were nullTRing gamma and then you made a post before I finished this one.

Tes i see your vote is on Gamma. Is it just because of the scum slip thing?

Yes, I've explained why I don't like his reaction.

I think its more likely for him claiming miller to be town. I don't see the benefit of him doing that as scum.

The benefit in doing it as scum is that you wouldn't get scumread as much when there's a cop guilty report on you(optimal play for miller is to claim early, and scum wants to look like miller).

Guys Sonia is my biggest TR

-W

[quote="In post 150

Sonia have you been lurking this whole time?

Why is this important to you?

Because i thought it awfully convenient you haven't posted until i ask mod if you have been prodded.

Well the answer is no I just got on and I saw my role and posted, Choose to believe what you will.

ok. this is just your first time on since the game started?

Yes.

Your full of shit

Uh this push against Sonia is coming from someone who recently got prodded.

OK, even after NM claimed miller as well Gamma dint back down. He could has blown it off as random early stage antics but he wasn't swayed by NM claim.

He knew that there could be more than one of the same role in the game.

I can't see lynching Gamma just because you think it is optimal for scum to claim miller.

That's not the only reason I suspect him.

If you got a miller role as town would you wait to reveal until you got a guilty on you?

No.

Compair NM and Gamma for me.

Just a second.

Compair NM and Gamma for me.

• With N_M, I first thought that he could be claiming miller just to get gamma lynched since the claim retract timing seemed convenient, but I think gamma has been acting suspicious, so that lowers the likelihood of scum!N_M trying to get town!gamma lynched. So I think N_M was probably trolling.
  
• At first when Gamma claimed miller, I was nullreading him, because scum or miller could claim miller that early. Now that I'm suspecting gamma, it was probably more likely that he was claiming because of possibility of guilty cop reports.

(also you should know that you're the type of player whom I'd be very afraid of as scum and there's no way I would single you out like that when I'd have perfectly easy targets in BlackStar and ZZZX)

Wait are you saying that you wouldn't go after Sonia if you were scum?

@Something_Smart did you respond to this yet? If not do so, if so my bad.

Also, about that, I don't think ZZZX is a perfectly good target. And BlackStar being a target only applies to town!blackStar and if BlackStar were scum with you then he wouldn't be a Town lynch target.

(also you should know that you're the type of player whom I'd be very afraid of as scum and there's no way I would single you out like that when I'd have perfectly easy targets in BlackStar and ZZZX)

Wait are you saying that you wouldn't go after Sonia if you were scum?

@Something_Smart did you respond to this yet? If not do so, if so my bad.

Oh, I didn't. Yes, that's what I'm saying.

You could easily go after Sonia as scum.

Of course I COULD. But going after Sonia as scum would be like climbing Everest after being told to take a walk.

Not really. You had reasons that you would SR her as town, so there's no reason for you to not push against town!her for those reasons if what she did is scummy.

VOTE: NM

Your only post have been empty quotes, a video and lying about miller.
So I would like to know as well. What is the motivation behind it?

Awful awful fucking vote dear god

Better than your vote on S_S.

VOTE: Sonia
let's do it then

You did not just...Lol
VOTE: Something_Smart

For those who think I haven't scumhunted.

[TesXX]

Everyone tell me if you're in favor of lynching BlackStar and/or Sonia.

• All those in favor of lynching Sonia:
  
• Me
  All those in favor of lynching BlackStar:
  
• Me

[TesXX]

Can we see the VC?

[TesXX]

Given that I'd policy lynch NM for him being NM not really but I'd much rather lynch the shade posting

non game solving Tesx

@Sonia explain to me why you'd lynch me over N_M based on how much we've game solved.
Oh right,

I

trolled.
Which
NotMafia
definitely
didn't
do.

[TesXX]

VOTE: Sonia

I take that as you're on the "in favor of lynching Sonia" list.

[TesXX]

I think I have to leave soon. Will probably be gone for a couple of hours.

[TesXX]

I can't read this slot and it can die

Unfortunately I am on mobile and won't be speed clicking the face palm button.
I can't read this guy so I'd prefer to lynch him.

policy lynch

Why and why and why.

[TesXX]

VOTE: Sonia
Hey, how about if you suspect me for "not scumhunting" then you actually vote

who you think is scum

instead of policy lynching? Because policy lynching is really not much more pro-Town than not scumhunting.

[TesXX]

This will not be a no lynch.
If I have to compromise on lynching somebody else I will.
But a no lynch is utterly ridiculous.

[TesXX]

Who's online?

[TesXX]

Also I'm sorry I got home later than I expected. I didn't think I'd be away for so long.

[TesXX]

Given that I'd policy lynch NM for him being NM not really but I'd much rather lynch the shade posting

non game solving Tesx

@Sonia explain to me why you'd lynch me over N_M based on how much we've game solved.
Oh right,

I

trolled.
Which
NotMafia
definitely
didn't
do.

I'd lynch NM over you.

I thought you had preferred a lynch on me. What changed that?

[TesXX]

Tes' VC

[0] Something_Smart
[0] Gamma Emerald
[2] xSoniaNevermindx - Not_Mafia, TesXX
[3] Not_Mafia - WhemePlay, Something_Smart, xSoniaNevermindx
[0] ZZZX
[2] TesXX - BlackStar, Gamma Emerald
[1] WhemePlay - CHEERFUL HYDRA,
[0] BlackStar
[0] CHEERFUL HYDRA

[0] Nolynch

Not voting: ZZZX

9 players are alive, therefore 5 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2017-05-14 07:12:52)

[TesXX]

Gamma you still haven't made a case on me.

[TesXX]

Can N_M be a day 3 lynch?

[TesXX]

Gamma you still haven't made a case on me.

Unless I missed it.

[TesXX]

Why Day 3????

Day 1: Sonia
Day 2: Black Star

[TesXX]

That suggestion is scummy as fuck btw

BlackStar and Sonia have been repeatedly pushing alternative facts on me. They've been using reasoning against me based off THINGS I HAVE NOT EVEN DONE.
So yes I agree it's very scummy to suggest putting somebody who hasn't said much as a lynch priority after people who have used complete lies on me.

[TesXX]

There is no way at all I am policy lynching.

[TesXX]

1) It's lining up lynches which on its own is fairly scummy

I agree planning lynches for later days is scum confirmed 100% make strawberries of illuminati great again.

2) it's suggesting leaving a dead weight slot to day 3.

Because there are scummier people.

I see Sonia and BlackStar flip town, you're fucking dead.

Then that's not a problem.

[TesXX]

UNVOTE:
Why Sonia

Hey how about if you want people to make cases when they vote then you actually explain why you voted me earlier?
Oh right I also planned lynches for future days. Makes sense.
It can not be done by town.

[TesXX]

RVS trolling can't be done by town either.

[TesXX]

Planning lynches for future days is not a scumtell.
And if you actually have a good explanation to why it is then tell me.