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I wonder what this does.
VOTE: McMennoThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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HURT: IrcherThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Hi CarlosThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I claim D-3 revealing IC.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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dreal is third party that wins if the mod is lynched.
@Mod: I am attempted to direct Vanilla A's vote.
Vanilla A vote: drealmerz7The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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A couple people here will understand.In post 158, drealmerz7 wrote:why on earth would you claim that?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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He was scum with me. I'm just toying with Charloux and 1SVT.In post 271, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Okay, I am hard claiming Innocent Child.
This activates day 3 and this is why I know I am not being lynched today.
As scum I have no reason to lie here as it means I am instantly lynched if the first post of mod tomorrow doesn't confirm it.
So, Comm you smart mouth kid, keeping your vote on me where my alignment is confirmable?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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A: You said so here. I'm only going off your word.In post 161, drealmerz7 wrote: how is my wanting a D1 NL being a mod-lyncher? wouldn't it make sense to wait and see if I actually try to push the mod unrelentingly before making such an assumption?In post 142, drealmerz7 wrote:I do believe votes on the mod may be valid, but, I do not really think that is the best course of action, as doing such could prove dangerous
best to no-lynch and see if my theory is correct (pretty sure it is) and if things get super-fucked with
then we kill the mod the next DayThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Now that you finally explain what you meant, yeah. I think I'm down. You seem townie to me.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I'm not gonna place my vote though cuz I don't want to accidentally end the day before everyone gets in here and posts today.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I'm town. Not actually claiming an IC.
I've been very busy and I'm phoneposting, so I'll check this and post again later tonight.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I prefer the first way.In post 259, Charloux wrote:Guys, do you want me to speak like this, so you can quote more easily
?suolucidir kool ot setouq ym gnivael tub ,siht ekil rO
268 Is that a third-party claim?
We're just waiting on claims from PP and wood then.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Can you at least claim town or third party before you replace out?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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tbh I'm just as lost as you. The game hasn't advanced much since the start.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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@McMenno
I believe 1SVT clarified in 205 and 207 that he controls the Vanilla votes and that those are his only votes during the game.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I'm waiting till we finish the alignment claims to state what I think. It's not no lynch though.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Edited to un-reverse his quote.
I'm flagging this as possible cover for a scum role.In post 334, Charloux wrote:Don't know my alignment currently, and my role isn't really AI, so i can't even guess properly
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Ftr, ooking at the alignment claims thus far, I'm inclined to believe McMennoThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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*looking atThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I guess I missed Jester's claim accidentally. My bad.
I also got no reads right now. I guess I have gut scumreads on PP and Jester, but that's about it.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Plot twist. Part of Ircher's bastard ruleset is that he can't give us replacements.
VOTE: PenguinPower
Plot Twist: I've already made a replacement this game.
~IrcherLast edited by Ircher on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:47 am, edited 1 time in total.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Assuming we're supposed to kill all third parties, he wouldn't necessarily know this by his role PM and therefore claiming wouldn't be a bad thing in his eyes.In post 365, The_Jester wrote:But, if that was the case, why would Menno claim 3rd party?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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You don't know that. He could be putting up a facade.In post 364, drealmerz7 wrote:and Ircher is definitely looking for a replacement, so that is not a thing, edos
Maybe the plot twist is that we have to lynch all players whose name begins with "d."The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Requesting a prod on PP. Thanks
I'm totally guilty of general inactivity, but this game <.<
Please refrain from requesting prods on players at less than 3 days of not posting.
~IrcherLast edited by Ircher on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:55 am, edited 1 time in total.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Lol. That was supposed to be a PM to Ircher. Phones suck.
I have nothing else to add except I think scum is in Jester, PP, and maybe Wood's slot.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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For me it's literally 100% gut and I'm not afraid to admit it or be shown wrong. Do you have any opinions (substantial or otherwise) on anybody?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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@Mod:I will also be V/LA this weekend. 4/28-4/30The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Hey 1-shot. You around? Wanna come talk about this game to me?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I dunno. This game just needs more discussion.
I also didn't understand your second sentence there. Mind restating it?
Drealmerz7- I feel like he's given up a bit now that he lost momentum for the no-lynch. Is that more indicative of an anti-town wincon than his actions alone?
McMenno- Any reads on what he could possibly be? My best guess is honestly survivor. I do believe he truly is third party though.
PenguinPower- If you think PP's a fine choice, why you no vote?
Edosurist- Do you like my hair today? I think it's fabulous.
Woodboys2339- I don't think there's really anything to glean from his lack of willingness to play out the game. Your thoughts? Should we wait for a replacement before carrying out a lynch?
1 Shot Vanilla Town- Tell me something about yourself.
Charloux- Do you think it's believable that his role PM doesn't specify an alignment? I worry because he basically claimed a cop-type role so no one would want to lynch him but he has wiggle room with his full claim later on. This is what I meant in 319. I just needed to confirm what his role was before I mentioned it.
The_Jester- Is 286 a townie post? In retrospect, it could be a plot for an "eliminate all 3rd parties" wincon or something. If you think that's a possibility, what do you think that says about Char's role?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I don't understand what "Erdington party" is. I googled "erdington party mafiascum" and got some... interesting results.
I've been legit busy both when I was scum with you and at the start of this game. If you want to see my other couple games that have finish recently, I was town in one and scum in the other. I was fairly inactive in both but that was unfortunately just poor timing.
I'll trust you regarding Jester.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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If you had to choose two people to be scum, barring the fact that you believe we win by lynching the mod, who would they be?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Ok I was just recalling from memory. Regardless, who's most likely to be scum?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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That was an interesting turn of events.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Hi Vax.
Btw I think I figured out what dreal's role is:If this is legit then Ircher is being such a troll to dreal.
Some other interesting highlights from the mod's posts are when he told us to only listen to our hearts and then more recently that we can only win by listening to each other.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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PP explain what you mean about 126. You can use your words here. This is a big kid environment.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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...The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Guys Charloux claimed scum. dreal needs 3 kill-less consecutive phases to win. 1shot is either town or werewolf.
VOTE: Charloux
Check Ircher's ISO from the thread he linked in 272 (note: 2 pages, hundreds of roles). I found my role in there too.
Of all the possible roles, only one has a reverse tag post restriction and it's on scum. ISO 195
I spent a fair amount of time determining whether it was protown to state this outright, but if it pans out, we just nabbed a scum, possibly another, and we now know what dreal's wincon likely is.
I considered waiting for more random softclaims from people, maybe discern McMenno's role, but again, I think this is important to establish since we can nab at least one scum this way.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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It is true that our role PM isnt necessarily in that thread. It's also true that we have nothing to go off of today and the PP wagon started over a gut read. Since we believe we know what Char's role PM is, this will either prove my theory correct or we might get a clue as to whether there's a pattern between our apparent role PM and our actual (or at least what we flip).The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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@Char
Given the number of votes he placed just now, I think it's safe to assume that he didnt just place 8 whole votes on you because that would be ridiculous. It does seem like an enormous waste though. We have three days to put the rest of the votes together.
Therefore 1shot is town, not werewolf, I'd assume.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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It kinda sucks that you were doomed from the start Char. I'd consider lynching McMenno, assuming he has a killing role.
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I mean, CharIn post 524, Vaxkiller wrote:I'll be on later tonight, but this pushed bassed on mod info is shit. You realy think the mod would be like oh here is how to solve the game! No he laughing at your asses right now. THis is bastard.didclaim scum. Like, he said it in the thread.
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Char then admitted to being scum and says he'll vote with town if we dont lynch him today.In post 461, Edosurist wrote:Guys Charloux claimed scum. dreal needs 3 kill-less consecutive phases to win. 1shot is either town or werewolf.
VOTE: Charloux
Check Ircher's ISO from the thread he linked in 272 (note: 2 pages, hundreds of roles). I found my role in there too.
Of all the possible roles, only one has a reverse tag post restriction and it's on scum. ISO 195
Dreal claimed Diplomat.
Dreal is still advocating NL and made an organized case for it. I'm in my phone so you should just check his ISO. It's a fairly recent postThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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UNVOTE: Jester put him at what I believe was L-1/2 and I'm not sure we're ready for that yet. Not everyone understands what's going on.
That wincon states 3 consecutive kill-less phases, not 3 no lynches. NL D1, no kill N1, NL D2 would be an example.In post 544, drealmerz7 wrote:
FOR 3 DAYS?!?!?!In post 542, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Diplomat is in Irchers ISO o the roles... and 1 of the win conditions is to no lynch for 3 days.
that sounds fucking impossible though
As for his case, it seems like a shot in the dark to me. There are other hypothetical ways to "defy" the standard rules. You could lynch mods, lynch town, lynch players not even in the game. Everyone could self-vote. I'm just brainstorming these though.
What's for certain is that the list of roles has something to do with the game. If we lynch a claimed role within that, their flip could reveal something. As for replacing "no lynch" with "town," I think I'd rather NL than lynch town. I'm not thinking about it too much because I'm on my phone.
As for Vax, I agree he looks like scum for questioning our push on Char.
The benefit of lynching outside of Char is that he likely has a partner (he's implied it, though he's not necessarily telling the truth). He would still have a factional kill even with. However, if we aim for other killing roles, we can possibly save a kill. Ultimately, I prefer lynching Char but everyone should understand the situation.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Char literally admitted to being scum. I don't know what else you want.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Vax. He literally claimed scum.
What else do you want? If he doesnt flip scum then we know the extent to which Ircher is messing with us.In post 473, Charloux wrote:So it was setup that i would die the moment someone finds my role in Irchers pile. Yes, that role is correct and i am scum, but i also think there is more to this game than that and really want to play it. Can you leave me alive if i am a treestump please
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That's what I'm saying. If we lynch someone who admitted to being scum and he doesnt flip scum, we know that the mod has given us fake role PMs. If he does flip scum, congrats.
P-Edit: So then why am I a better lynch than Char?
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God dammit.
Waiting on you PP.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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VOTE: Charloux
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Ah damn. You're right. Mickey, we love you, but we'll love you more if you do us this favor.
VOTE: Charloux
VOTE: Charloux
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You certainly don't have the votes for a no lynch. Wanting a NL aside, who do you currently scumread? Since NL is not going to happen, perhaps you should compromise.In post 601, drealmerz7 wrote:
speak for yourselfIn post 599, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Edosurist is the strongest town read here.
PP, just give it a try on no-lynch, PLEASE
what other game would there ever be where NL on D1 is the right thing to do?
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Thank you. That's something I can work with.
What makes us scummier other than Char in light of the fact that he claimed scum? I would think that nothing is scummier than that in the traditional sense.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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*What makes us scummer than Char... (Omit the "other")The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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From my perspective, the NL wincon is entirely speculation. The wincon I have been told conflicts with that theory and I have stated that I will consider other options once we have a lead. We can't get a lead until we know whether Ircher has told us false alignments and wincons, i.e. telling Char that he is scum when he is town. That's why we should lynch claimed scum.
I know that you're not going to agree to that because we've tried that already, but I'm trying to explain my logic to you. I can't just take you for your word unless there's hard, objective evidence in favor of it.
And for what it's worth, I think your second and third points don't apply in the traditional sense and your first is entirely subjective.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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If you ship me an oatmeal raisin I might take you up on that.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Dreal, please stop talking to him. Clearly he doesn't want you to and what you're saying isn't helping him feel better.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I missed the new rule. Which one are you referring to?The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Oh. The plurality vote.
Either way, it doesnt matter. They got the no lynchThe name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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Wait, but I thought the list was a lie and we knew nothing.In post 642, Vaxkiller wrote:
my role.In post 639, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Why would that make you confirmed town again?
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I read that when I was doing some research. I personally thought it was hilarious.In post 688, Charloux wrote:
Check the mod notes from the first game. Half his comments were complaints on how I was playing. There's your motiveIn post 685, drealmerz7 wrote:aww, I don't think Ircher hates you!
he's definitely trolling me, though
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Personally, I'd rather keep chatting about the game in case that wasn't game end.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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I doubt Char knows he's a jester. I assumed variant meant something along the lines of "if no lynch has a plurality, follow the most recent vote or the oldest vote."
And Vax's point about his role PM is interesting and explains some of his reasoning behind opposing the list. However, I will note that it's still possible he is Vax's partner. I'm still on my phone so I'm not certain what role Vax has that would confirm him town since he doesnt have a post restriction like Char.
Going forward, I want to see a flip on someone who's claimed, but obviously that won't happen during the night. As for D2, I'll still be shooting for the Char lynch, if not because he claimed scum, because we can possibly find out how the mod is lying to us. I expect to see me survive if I'm wrong cuz scum knows I'll be gunning for him.
As for me role-fishing dreal, I told him to use his role-confirming ability tonight so we can see whether the mod is at least using the roles he's given us. I also told this to McMenno. This also isn't role-fishing cuz it's displayed in his role PM (using the list) and can be used once a night every night. There's no reason why he shouldn't use it tonight. They've also both claimed diplomat so there's nothing for me to fish anymore besides what the mod will confirm to us.The name's Edosurist. People call me Edos.
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