Micro 715: Friendly Neighbor 6 (Game Over)

[Vedith]

Never fear, Vedith is here.
I won't be posting until later tonight / early morning, really busy.
Anything I should need to know, lay it on me, I can handle it!

[Vedith]

I'm still strongly in favour of a Raya lynch.

Howcome?

[Vedith]

You can see my case in my last few posts.

She hasn't done anything that convinces me she isn't scum

Okay, what has everyone else done to convince you that they are not scum?
I'll look at your posts now with this.

[Vedith]

@Vedith

What are your thoughts after reading or just at the moment if you haven't read the game yet?

I haven't read anything yet.
I'm just about to start it.

[Vedith]

It's too abnormal for mafia to claim town so early

?

[Vedith]

(Meant to post it was L-1. Sorry)

[Vedith]

Raya just gives reads where popular demand is I guess?

[Vedith]

Okay I don't like Raya either.
Changing their opinion to suit the situation. The reasoning for having Gamma (me) as town from the start was trash, and looked like hoping for a Gamma lynch credit or trying to buddy?

From there, any town reads look like they may have been favoured by others but I'll check that.

I didn't really come out of understanding what Raya's stance or opinion is on the game

@Raya - Tell me your understanding to what has happened in the game so far.

Who's next for me to check?

[Vedith]

Agree with this

VOTE: Flubbernugget

What exactly did you agree with here?

[Vedith]

BTD is town.

[Vedith]

That wrong =/= scum

And that was strong enough to vote Flubber?

[Vedith]

Because....

Because I know BTD town. This is that.
I have more content from reading his ISO that yours or Raya's so far. Considering he has 25 posts...
Although I find your ISO productive and pushing for game progression (something scum don't want) I prefer BTD's scum hunting, even when he's questioning Mario's alignment when it's a generic town view. I can't see BTD doing that as scum.

It was page 4, so yes

Personally, I don't go by pages on is a vote is valid or not, I only go by reasoning.

[Vedith]

Considering this exact same thing was said in a micro I recently played, and he flipped scum, you'll excuse me for not taking you at your word.

I'm not sure I did say that? In what game exactly?

You don't need to take my word, you can either check his ISO and see he's town or not check his ISO and try to call him scum where I'll disagree with you the entire way.

[Vedith]

I'm trying to get better at reading btd6 because I've read him wrong in just about every single game

That's different to what I'm saying.
I think I have a good grasp on BTD, Trans didn't.

I also gave the reasoning for his scum hunting. It's not forced, his opinions are set.

This is what I found to be missing from Raya.

[Vedith]

Read the next line

I did, and it shows that Trans is uncertain on his read.
I'm confident on it.

You never said that.

I didn't?
Did you not read my post?

I prefer BTD's scum hunting

, even when he's questioning Mario's alignment when it's a generic town view. I can't see BTD doing that as scum.

All you said here is 'He has content' (Saying that he has more than me / Raya is irrelevant)

I siad about his scum hunting just before the bolded. Are you really trying to manipulate a comment here?

[Vedith]

Like, saying 'I prefer BTD's scum hunting' is not helpful in the slightest.

It doesn't matter if you prefer his method to someone else's.
Saying you prefer it doesn't say why you like it at all.

So why did you not question me with asking for an example? If you had an issue with what I said, of course.
I'll tell you why, because you wasn't interest in my reasons.

I like it because he's actually scum hunting. It's not that there's a method, it's that Raya's in non existent.

[Vedith]

I genuinely can't tell if you're purposely manipulating quotes or not

Did you honestly just say what I said because I called you out on it?

My response to 'I prefer BTD's scum hunting, even when he's questioning Mario's alignment when it's a generic town view. I can't see BTD doing that as scum.' is the line below it.

The part of my post you quoted is referring to 'I have more content from reading his ISO that yours or Raya's so far. Considering he has 25 posts...'

I think you mis understand. I wasn't quoting post 572 in regards to my comment, I was quoting it to respond to.
I am assuming that you mean that post that I quoted from you, because otherwise your comment makes no sense.

[Vedith]

Flubbernugget (5): Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald, MarioManiac4, Raya36, Something_Smart

I'd be cool with it but now I kinda wanna see what he says about his SS vote first.

Actually, let's do it.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

I'll still be around to switch back if needed, plus this would keep the hammer from dropping before I get that explanation from Flubber.

Flubber

VOTE: Flubbernugget

That beings Flubber to L-1

[Vedith]

This whole back and forth between us has been me trying to get some specific reasons as to why you townread BTD so strongly.
Why would I bother discussing this with you if ultimately I didn't care about your reasoning? The minute you said he was town I asked you why you thought so.

The fact you ignored me saying he's scum hunting, and just said I gave no reason but meta tells me otehrwise.

Why do you keep comparing his scum hunting to Raya's lack of scum hunting.
They have nothing to do with each other

Because I their the 2 ISO's I read in full.
Tell me, what do you not like about me comparing the 2 players?

[Vedith]

I prefer BTD's scum hunting

Right, lets get this clear, because you obviously lack something somewhere to understand.

This is a comment purely about BTD scum hunting. It doesn't take a smart person to understand what this is, and even if they don't, you made no attempt to question where or why until I said about it.

All I've asked you to do is give some examples of posts that lead you to believe that BTD is town.

It's not forced, his opinions are set.

Then I see no follow up from you with this. I've given 2 reasons off the bat and you don't question these actual reasons.

I'm not sure if you're trying to distract me from checking ISO's atm, or what? But regardless, you are not very smart, I can tell.

[Vedith]

Something_Smart (3): iDanyboy, BTD6_maker, Flubbernugget

ok I'm feeling more town on Alchemist and I don't like to sheep but I'm pretty sure this is like the perfect time to sheep so
VOTE: iDanyBoy

You vote me for sheeping while sheeping?
I agree with a lot of what Alchemist is posting (280) and didn't have much to add onto that, this is also making me see him as a townie.

What it is is I can't lock onto any scumreads and I feel useless.

I'd like to know what changed your vote from Alchemist to me?

Because Mario seemed like an easy lynch and easy lynches that are town are prime places for scum to vote, especially when the overall state of the game is slow.

What makes you think he was an easy lynch? He only had two votes on him at that time and I unvoted shortly after.

VOTE: SS
He switches his votes from people to people with very little reasoning and his responses' to Alchemist seem like scum.

Phone posting here.

VOTE: Something Smart

You have shown in the past that you do indeed have some reasoning, yet you seem to simply sheep MM. If you agree with MM's case, you should be able to give reasons why apart from simply "MM is confTown", as that doesn't make their reads more likely to be correct.

Why are you sheeping when you have reads of your own?

[Vedith]

104 -1 BTD
135 -1 SS
152 -1 SS +1 Dray +1Raya
157 -1 SS
192 -1 Alch
193 -1 Alch
196 -1 Alch
197 -1 Alch
204 -1 Alch
205 -1 Alch
221 +1 SS +1Raya +1Dan +1Dray -1BTD -1Alch +1Alch
253 +1 Raya +1SS +1Dray +1Dan
312 +1 Alch +1SS
317 +1 Alch +1SS
348 -1 BTD
352 -1 BTD
363 -1 Raya

[Vedith]

Draynth is town.

Vedith please provide links to times when you correctly read BTD6 as both alignments.

I'd also like to know your thoughts on Alchemist.

I didn't say he wasn't.
I have plenty of games, you can look through them, as I won't be doing that.
I'll let you know when I've read that.

[Vedith]

Also Vedith don't be an asshole. Neither of you are stupid and actually the person who made a comprehension error was you.

Being an asshole is what I do best.
If I feel someone is being stupid, I'll make it clear.

[Vedith]

You said you gave reasoning PRIOR to this post. THEREFORE, " It's not forced, his opinions are set." is irrelevant to the point I am making. Besides the fact that it's ridiculously vague and wishy washy, it came after you said you had already given reasoning.

THIS is the only specific thing you had mentioned.

"I prefer BTD's scum hunting, even when he's questioning Mario's alignment when it's a generic town view. I can't see BTD doing that as scum."

I asked you for another example, you then spouted nonsense for an entire page.

Not once did I say I disagreed with you about your read on him, so why would I question the one 'reason' you gave. I'm trying to make sure you're not just blindly calling people town and expecting to get away with it.

Also, if you make another personal remark like that either I'm replacing out or I'm asking for you to be force replaced.

I'm trying to look through this shit, and while I'm doing this you are being extremly stupid.
I can quote the series of events if you like, since this is what you're failing to do. At no point do you question me on the reasons given. You originally skipped me saying about BTD scum hunting and said reasons were only meta. Even when I say scum hunting and knowing his stance (or whatever it was) you still ignore that section. If you had any interest, you would have asked where he's scum hunting, or what points made me think that, not just say "I need more reasons" or what ever it is you're trying to day.
Scum do not scum hunt, town do. This gives a reason in itself regardless if it's worded "I prefer his scum hunting" or "He's scum hunting". You are acting stupid here (I hope) because you missed my comment. So your entire argument here is the way I worded it, knowing full well that scum aren't scum hunting.

I'll take you as a joke going forward.

[Vedith]

I never said you said he wasn't. I had no read on him before that interaction. So in that regard, thanks. (Unless he's scum...)

If you are the one who wants to show that BTD6 is town using meta, the burden of proof is on you to provide the meta.

And I don't care if you're good at insulting people, leave it out of Mafia games. This is a cooperative game and saying things like "you are not very smart, I can tell" does nothing but make people pissed at you.

I never said you said I said he wasn't.
I'm not concerned on showing you why BTD is town, I'm concerned on showing why scum are scum. If you wish to see me being right, you either look at my games with BTD, or give me a case to think otherwise.
I'll insult where needed. I'm not here to be Dray's friend, I'm here to find scum. So I'm not worried if I piss him, or you off during that time.

[Vedith]

Re: 591, I think the issue is that saying "I like BTD6's scumhunting" isn't a reason. That's like saying "their posts are town motivated"; what Draynth wants to know is why.

Please show me what post Dray asked to see where BTD is scum hunting.
I missed it.

If you can't, GTFO.

[Vedith]

So going by Mario being killed and his ISO, he was killed because town had shit reads, not because he had good reads.
Otherwise scum would have aimed to kill the Jailor or Tracker.

So, lets look at who had shit reads out of you guys.

[Vedith]

222 - BTD is showing that he's keeping an eye on Flubber, pulling up for an unexplained vote.
This post he's showing that he's paying attention, and aiming his focus onto his scum reads.
226 - His comment shows that he's trying to work out Mario, as scum don't want the attention.
301 - Not only setting on the same people, he's pressing into SS's comments here.
339 - Pushing SS for a change of play
371 - Pushing the motive
488 - Another solid stance on the game. Pushing Danny with reasons
529 - Push an un answered question

This is what scum hunting is. Unless you want to challenge me that BTD wasn't scum hunting or constantly pushing his reads while making it known where he stands?

[Vedith]

I'm going to have to continue more later, works getting busy.

[Vedith]

What are these posts for? I'm guessing the first 2 are to have all the votes in your ISO to run VCA or something? And I can't really tell what the 3rd post is supposed to be.

I actually see it as Towny that SS stepped in as the voice of reason to try to get Vedith and Draynth to understand each other. I think scum would have been happy to just let that conversation go on as it was.

And Vedith, even if you think someone is stupid, don't call them that or say you're treating them as a joke. It's toxic, and this game was thoroughly enjoyable before you started the personal attacks.

Read-wise Vedith on first glance leaves a bad taste in my mouth because of his BTD read going unexplained, and it's hard to tell if he's being difficult on purpose or if his meta read on BTD is something he has genuine faith in. His frustration from the Draynth supposedly distracting him from re-reading things looks Town to me, but I'm going to need an explanation for these 3 posts I quoted before I can really solidify that thought.

It's for my reference while i read stuff. That's all.

Okay Alch, I won't. Sorry Dray.

On a side note, I don't give a shit on your read with me. And my read is explained. You can try and say how my read is wrong, but don't skip my posts and say I haven't explained anything. I won't allow that bullshit.

[Vedith]

Then don't bring it up as a reason for him being town.

I'll bring up what I like. You can try and argue me, but unless I see your argument even hafl valid, I'll null and void it.

[Vedith]

Welcome, Taco!
Woo me!

[Vedith]

I'll take any form of woo with the player list we currently have.
Don't expect the others to make this game fun for you!

But yeah, your slot is scum. Sorry to say. Tell me why I shouldn't think that!

[Vedith]

Are you consciously doing this or do you genuinely not realise that you're being toxic

That's not being toxic at all, nice try though.

[Vedith]

Vedith I still want you to answer this.

Because the other PR is what will actually find them/disrupt them, not a neighbour.
I wasn't originally sure if that was a serious question and gave you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't a serious question.

For now on, I'll take your questions as 100% serious.

[Vedith]

Of course, we cannot get any more content from them. Sergtacos, do you agree with Raya's reads?

Why do you expect 2 different people to read the game in the same way?

[Vedith]

I don't. I am trying to see what Sergtacos' reads are. It was essentially "This is what Raya thought. What do you think?" rather than presuming that the reads will be similar. This will also generate content from this slot and give a new perspective.

Okay

[Vedith]

I still don't understand how the whole reads thing factors into this. What you're saying about going for the disruptive PR makes sense, and I would get it if you were saying Mario was killed first because of his reads, but you're saying Mario was killed first because of everyone else's reads rather than his own which makes no sense.

No, you mis understand. I'm still working things out.

[Vedith]

So going by Mario being killed and his ISO,

he was killed because town had shit reads, not because he had good reads.

Otherwise scum would have aimed to kill the Jailor or Tracker.

So, lets look at who had shit reads out of you guys.

I mean I get you're still working things out, I just don't get how you came up with the bolded statement, even as a first-guess assumption.

Because killing Mario for his role alone night 1 makes no sense with another PR.
Unless of course, the scum weren't on the radar day 1.

[Vedith]

I guess I can see where you're coming from here. I just disagree that scum would play the guessing game over killing the hardclaim and doubt anyone's reads were involved in that decision.

I guess either are plausible.

[Vedith]

Tell me your reasons for not wanting BTD lynched, and for wanting Taco, again.

[Vedith]

Why not though?
Only gut... or?

[Vedith]

V/LA for the weekend

Raya is probably a mislynch. I'd much prefer BTD6 lynched.

Do you have any access on the weekends?

If I don't want to go to the Raya lynch, I still won't go to BTD unless good reason is given, but I could compromise.

[Vedith]

Well, have a good trip.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Taco

[Vedith]

So it's either SS and Danny or SS and Alch.
Each tell me why you're not paired with SS.

[Vedith]

Aee you saying that he is your buddy or isn't?

[Vedith]

Why?

[Vedith]

Okay I'll look again.
Why should I not consider you Scum? Who do you think is Alchs buddy?

[Vedith]

I was going to relax and phone post but I guess I'll get on my pc.

[Vedith]

Flubber changed his vote to Something Smart.

This plus others suggest you're not scum together then.

So if Alch is scum, it's with BTD or Danny.
There's pros and cons to both, Alch making people aware of BTD on L1, bad voting, never actually engaging with or about Danny.
I forget if Alch is a distancer as scum or not.

Maybe you're not confirmed scum.

[Vedith]

Town - GE , Alchemist
Scum - BTD-6, SS(stronger scumread)

This is ironic!

Also, I don't think Danny is with SS or BTD.

So as it stands, the scum teams are
SS/BTD
Dany/Alch
Aclh/BTD

[Vedith]

I mostly agree with this. Dany has been rather inconsistent. For the first point, I can see why they think that not giving reasoning is scummy but if they believe that, they should agree. They believe that stating reasons is pro-Town therefore it will benefit Town if they state reasons therefore they should state reasons. Their justification for not stating reasons does not make sense. Reaction tests are also generally ineffective and if, in doing so, you contradict something you claim to believe, it can easily be picked up on.

The second quote exemplifies this. If you have certain standards, you are expected to follow them. It is not different if you do something.

The third and fourth quotes are fine. It is possible for Townies to have gut reads that you cannot pin down reasons for. However, when your read is strong enough to warrant a vote, reasoning is expected.

Currently, I scumread Dany as well as SS.

You have given some answers, but they are unsatisfactory. You are essentially denying the argument without actually refuting it. You are also using misrep in these posts. For example, when Draynth clearly has multiple reasons for voting you and pushes the fact that you flip-flopped, you claim that Draynth is changing reasons in short succession, with the implication that they are just making them up on the spot, which I doubt.

You still haven't answered this one:
"Why would you do what you scumread someone for, if you are just trying to see whether you will be scumread? Would someone scumreading you for not giving reasons (when you scumread others for the same) be indicative of Town or scum?"

I'm not sure how to think of these. BTD is voting SS but not pushing, while having more focus on Dany but not voting.

[Vedith]

Why are you suddenly considering BTD6 scum?

Also if you're going to rule out scumteams based on distancing as shallow as that then you should read my interaction with BTD6 starting at 339.

Because I'm re reading and taking options.
I'm not doing it on pure distancing, I'm doing it on reactions and intentions.

BTD votes you but yet never really pushes you, instead pushes Dany, but never votes him. So I'm confused there.

[Vedith]

But that interaction goes both ways. I gave significant reasoning against BTD6.

I agree, and I have you're combo as currently the weakest...
I just don't understand why BTD never votes Dany when he looks to have his strongest case there... But that could be BTD being BTD.

[Vedith]

Right now, Alch has the highest odds to flip scum out of you 4.
Ironically enough, you and Dany have the least chance right now.

[Vedith]

Why in 669 did you assume that I am scum and BTD6 town, yet now a page later your possible teams have BTD6 as second most likely scum and me as least likely?

Because I ended the day with thinking you were scum and BTD was town.

[Vedith]

So what changed in the last page?

I checked ISO's to see who favours together and who make no sense as a scum combo.
Like you fucking asked

[Vedith]

And you didn't do that all of yesterday or overnight?

No? I'm far too busy site wide to do that.
I left the night thinking it was you and Alch or Dany (more Alch).
That's good enough for me.

[Vedith]

How confident would you say you were in those reads at the beginning of the night? Also what was your read on Dray?

Dray was town. I would have been confident enough to call you scum, but I wanted to hear what people had to say.

[Vedith]

You didn't do this though. (The only person you heard was me lol) Are you confident in your reads now?

And what specifically made you so confident Draynth was town?

Yes I did. Hence no vote on you. I wanted to know why I shouldn't consider the others.
I am always confident in my reads.
Because Dray was just stupid town.

[Vedith]

I don't care if I look scummy.
Fact is, I was most likely Dray's target. Meaning that I did not make the night kill at least, meaning I have the least chance of flipping scum here.

So tell me, why should I not consider you as scum right now?

[Vedith]

It's really on you to say why you should consider me as scum, which you have yet to do.

POE.
Now tell me why you're not Scum.

[Vedith]

So as it stands, the scum teams are
SS/BTD
Aclh/BTD

Vedith/BTD

Agreed. I still like a BTD lynch

So to you BTD is Scum 100%... yet no Vote?

[Vedith]

Great, now lets see if my thoughts were right and the scum teams are within the 3 I said.

[Vedith]

I was wondering what the chances of a BTD/Dany team were but since that vote happened I guess it's extremely unlikely at this point.

Why?
It just means that there is scum in BTD/Dany if not both.
Do you think it's unlikely that BTD would be sacrificed here as an obvious scum target?

[Vedith]

BTD6 hasn't done anything towny. I cut them way too much slack in the last game I played with them and that was a mistake.

Maybe it's not a mistake here, but I don't think that BTD6 really deserves to live another day. (I didn't think so yesterday either)

Although this proves my previous post point, this is a poor way of thinking about it.

[Vedith]

Why so?
I had BTD in 2 of the scum teams.
He also put himself in a possition where I called him out for having BTD as scum 100% and forced him to vote.

As I said though, we have scum in either Dany or BTD if not both.

I would personally pick Dany over BTD if I had to right now.

How about you?

[Vedith]

If you truley thought I was scum, it would be me and BTD as a no brainer.

This tells me that your reads are fake personally.

Try again.

[Vedith]

Do you think it's a Scum claim?

I'm calling your reads fake. Because they are.
If you truly believed BTD as Scum you would think me not Dany, plus you argued Dany's motive to vote him. Yet you would vote Dany over BTD.

You can see why I think their fake, right?

[Vedith]

Most likely Vedith, but it could be either of you.

So as it stands, the scum teams are
SS/BTD
Aclh/BTD

Vedith/BTD

Agreed. I still like a BTD lynch

This suggests Dany/SS

What do you think, SS?

[Vedith]

Who the fuck knows.
Does it matter with no town PR?

[Vedith]

You can't block a Jailkeeper, right?
So again, it doesn't matter.

[Vedith]

I've always had the impression that Jailkeeper can't be role blocked, but then I've never had that role.

[Vedith]

Nice!
Infact, this now sums it down to

SS/BTD
Dany/Alch

So now I need to decide. Would town be that confident to put BTD to L1?

[Vedith]

I'll assume whatever the fuck I want!
At the most part, Alch and BTD is a no no.

But for what it's worth, SS, I'm liking you more.

[Vedith]

I'm pretty sure Vedith is BTD's partner.

[Vedith]

Right, I'm off out for games night.

I want both teams to explain both why they're not Scum and why the other team is.

Even if you're town and Scum read me, this is beneficial to do for the scenario where I am town.

If I'm not impressed I'm dropping a vote on Dany and if it's SS BTD as Scum, that's on Alch and Dany for not working hard enough.

[Vedith]

I gave everyone a chance. And if town they would have responded in a correct way since it's LyLo.
Although I'm confident that it won't be over, if it is over, this is towns fault for refusing to give me the reasons to go wiser them town.

I'll unvote when both SS and Alch post.

VOTE: Dany

[Vedith]

Infact I won't even unvote as it will confirm 100% that it's
Btd/Dany
Dany/Alch

But I think it's Dany Alch and Alch just panicked hence the refusal to progress.

[Vedith]

Well that's BTD Alch cleared.
SS to prove themselves, then I'll leave SS as the king maker no pressure

[Vedith]

BTD6_maker (2): Something_Smart, iDanyboy

BTD6_maker (2): Something_Smart, iDanyboy

BTD6_maker (3): Something_Smart, iDanyboy, Sergtacos L-1

BTD6_maker (2): Something_Smart, iDanyboy

Dany / BTD are not scum.

Also, SS you're reads mean very little if it's outside of BTD/me and Alch/Dany. You should state anything you want to though, as if you lynch wrong today, game over, lynch right, we lynch the buddy.
Easy game, easy money.

So, now let me tell you why Vedith/BTD is a no go for you.
1 - It will lose us the game
2 - I came into the day with you as scum, but I wanted to hear opinions first before risking the vote dropped. Dany gave no regard to any other teams away from BTD and dropped the vote. That means that he had no care with LyLo, not something town does.
3 - Alch is trying way too hard right now. He's also got the sweats because he knows when Dany is lynched, tomorrow he is bye bye.
4 - 743 is such so forced. Even more so with 725.
5 - Alch 721 suggests that me and Dany can be scum together (which I still don't get) and has no issue voting BTD with that thought.
6 - I'm Vedith \o/
7 - I solved the game.

[Vedith]

The sixth and seventh points seem to be jokes, so I will ignore them.

WTF is this?
It's 100% serious!

[Vedith]

Full disclosure I think that BTD6 and Vedith have played very poorly if town

Let me just hold this for end game.

[Vedith]

Of course I disagree.
I read BTD correctly from joining in the game. I've done more pro town things than probably anyone in the game on that alone.

[Vedith]

Like hammering town?

The other options was to also hammer town.
As I said, I've done more pro town things than anyone else here.

[Vedith]

And being utterly unable to explain that BTD6 read beyond "I like their scumhunting"?

I mean, you can be salty as much as you like, but the fact is, my meta read on him was spot on.
I understand that you don't like that though, because you know, Mafia players like to be in the spot light.

[Vedith]

At the end of the day, if you're antagonised by that and let it influence your vote, that's not my issue.
I'm not trying too hard to be in the spotlight, I am the spot light
1 think you will learn if you are in future games with me, I'm always right.

[Vedith]

And it is your issue because it means you'd lose when you could have won by trying to work with me.

I've been more than helpful.
If you fuck up, that's on you, not me.

[Vedith]

Because I won't sit through 50+ games looking for you?
As I said, if you fuck up, that's on you, not me.

Dany and Alch confirmed they were a scum team when they put BTD to L1 without a care.

If you're too stupid to see that, again, that's on you.

[Vedith]

I don't recall what players are in what games, no.
When you play 15+ games a time like me, you tend to forget an exact player list after the games done.

[Vedith]

Or the fact he was most town read overall.
Scum couldn't risk both Dray and a JK in LyLo.

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GG.
Nice work SS, welcome to the pro town club!

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Did you guys actually Roleblock Dray?
I looked on the wiki and they can be blocked, never knew that before this game.

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Thanks for modding TB

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Anyone have any suggestions for things I did poorly / can improve on? I feel like overall I'm quite a weak player at the minute and am trying to improve. Cheers

You were pretty town read by majority.
Other than you have said about giving away being PR, I think you ahd the key factors down.

Even if you didn't give away that you're PR, you would have died still imo, so overall it's not a huge issue.