Micro 910: Autobattler Mafia - Game Over

[shos]

u town?

[shos]

damnit. I'm off to sleep

[Dunnstral]

Vc 3.2

pisskop [

H

D

A

] (0):
popsofctown [

H

G

A

] (3): CheekyTeeky, Doctor Drew, shos
Doctor Drew [

A

H

] (0):
shos [

G

D

] (0):
CheekyTeeky [

G

A

] (1): popsofctown

Not Voting (1): pisskop

With 5 votes it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-29 12:00:00)

A lynch has been achieved

[Dunnstral]

popsofctown was

Town

Her card was: White Swan War Goddess, Valkyrie - Ciel :

Healer

,

God

,

Attacker

With nothing left to get in their way, the mafia faction of

Doctor Drew

and

shos

has won the game!

[popsofctown]

Oh, cheeky and I were racing eachother to throw . Cheeky why can't I read you? Why can't you read me?

[popsofctown]

((

[Dunnstral]

Original setup thread: viewtopic.php?f=115&t=81553
Mod thread: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81735
Mafia thread: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81737
Dead thread: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81846

[popsofctown]

Oh right Eve pointed out in dead thread that lynching cheeky and a heal townblock with pisskop would have won.


Why did pyrhha replace out? That was a huge turning point

[Dunnstral]

Couple of things about this game:

I think plurality lynching could have worked the whole time
It seems the deadlines were too short, I was under the impression that this would be a more fast type of game, I guess I was off the mark
The original way the healer bonus was designed was an instant loss for town if 2 mafia were remaining, which we realized way too late
The attacker bonus provides its benefits at a different time than the other bonuses, and so you guys never saw the benefits

[the worst]

gg all - well played shos & drewy

[popsofctown]

No I played bad duck

[the worst]

it's ok pops. everyone has off games. you're still the best.

[Doctor Drew]

Hi5 Shos.

GG everyone else.

Not sure how I avoided suspicion so much.

[popsofctown]

Oh wow I see what was wrong with the healer route.
Man setup design is hard.
Dunnstral definitely made a smart call. I'd beat myself up about it requiring revision, if I hadn't already seen Undertale Semi-Open reviewed with a similar mistake - the first version of the setup as written had an issue that made it beyond broken, so I similarly found a way to interpret the setup that was as similar to what was written as possible/arguably what was written, and utilized that instead.

[popsofctown]

I find you towngame pretty scummy also Drew, so that makes it harder to get on your case or feel like you're sure scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wow that was bad. Gg scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh, cheeky and I were racing eachother to throw . Cheeky why can't I read you? Why can't you read me?

I get distracted by shiny things. Stop being a diamond <3.

[popsofctown]

Shine bright like a diamond

[pisskop]

gah my b

[pisskop]

well done shos.

i knew you were funny, but i didnt give the game enough time to make a difference

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Oh right Eve pointed out in dead thread that lynching cheeky and a heal townblock with pisskop would have won.


Why did pyrhha replace out? That was a huge turning point

Sorry Pops, I would have never allowed you to get mislynched had I stayed. Sorry Cheeky, I really thought you were scum.

I was seriously overgamed, I didn’t understand the mechanics and us being forced to mislynch Eve, mainly due to needing maj lynch and time runing out, kind of soured me on the game. Nothing I hate worse than mislynching, especially when it very likely wouldn’t have happened if we weren’t just trying to avoid a no lynch.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Couple of things about this game:

I think plurality lynching could have worked the whole time
It seems the deadlines were too short, I was under the impression that this would be a more fast type of game, I guess I was off the mark

The original way the healer bonus was designed was an instant loss for town if 2 mafia were remaining, which we realized way too late
The attacker bonus provides its benefits at a different time than the other bonuses, and so you guys never saw the benefits

Yes, I hated that we were literally forced to choose between two town players solely due to time. I would have definitely lynched Drew over Eve, had that been an option but I didn’t want to lynch Asriel due to mech reasons

[popsofctown]

I'm sorry that was so souring Pyrrha.
It's a flaw in the setup design, majority lynch + evens + the skipped NK being specifically night 2 which makes D1 mislynch better than no lynch in all cases was a perfect storm of bad design.
I bear some mistake in how I made the setup, I shouldn't have overlooked it. It should be changed to address one of those three things IF NOT two of them

[Dunnstral]

Do you think that attacker bonus not giving instant benefits is a problem with the design, or just something town need to play around?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'm sorry that was so souring Pyrrha.
It's a flaw in the setup design, majority lynch + evens + the skipped NK being specifically night 2 which makes D1 mislynch better than no lynch in all cases was a perfect storm of bad design.
I bear some mistake in how I made the setup, I shouldn't have overlooked it. It should be changed to address one of those three things IF NOT two of them

Yeah, town should never be put in that kind of position where you are forced to choose between two tr due to time constraints. @Dunn, I think you absolutely should have agreed to my extension request. If a maj lynch is required, than you need a lot more time, especially on D1 but my being seriously overgamed was the main reason but Dunn is also saying that the Healer card fucked us anyway, so the setup design was clearly extremely conducive to a scum win.

Not taking anything away from Drew and especially Shos who clearly fooled me but Pops was correct on scum!Shos based on N1 NKA. I actually haven’t had time to follow this game. I saw Dunn’s link in the micro queue, so I posted.