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In post 2567, MTD wrote:I don't, but not because I'm against it.
In general when I want to get better at games I don't use pre-made stuff (e.g. in league I wouldn't use builds from guides, in toribash I wouldn't just learn moves by heart) but try to figure it out myself because I feel like that helps me much better in getting a good understanding of the game.
This is a terrible approach.
Copy until you understand why/how things are good, and then use that to make judgments.-
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In post 2600, xRECKONERx wrote:There are a bunch of design decisions that Hearthstone made at its inception (most egregiously, no interaction during opponent's turns) that are starting to really take hold of the game and drag it down. They need to fix some of that now
This + being able to hit face unless they have a taunt dude in play makes charge completely fucking broken.-
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In post 2615, xRECKONERx wrote:welcome to hearthstone, please enjoy your on rails experience of t1 leper gnome, t2 shielded minibot, t3 muster, t4 truesilver, t5 quartermaster, t6 mysterious challenger, t7 dr boom, t8 tirion fordring!
Yup, basically this.
Blizzard has done a really bad job with balance >.>-
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In post 2622, Sudo_Nym wrote:Honestly, I don't think Dr. Boom by itself is so huge a problem. It's powerful, but lots of cards are powerful. The real problem is that it stands head and shoulders above any other available 7 drop, so any deck that runs a 7 drop has no better options. Or even anything close to its power level. So everybody runs it in every deck that lasts that long.
That literally means it's a problem.
"This card is objectively the best x-drop in the game" is not where you want a card to be. Piloted Shredder has a similar issue.-
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In post 2627, itlepip wrote:In post 2626, chamber wrote:I mean, what other good 7 drops are even trying to compete though? Sprint? antonidas? They just need to raise the power in that slot across the board I think.
edit: chillmaw, ancient of lore
Druid has a lot of good 7s, no one else does though.
This is part of the issue. The other part is that Dr. Boom is always an amazing drop - unless you just aren't running 7-drops, he's always an amazing option.-
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In post 2629, Sudo_Nym wrote:Right. I'm not trying to say there isn't a problem with Doom being too powerful, I'm saying he's too powerful because all of the other neutral 7s suck. So if you play 7s, you never have a better option. Druid can maybe get away with playing their Ancients and avoiding running BGH targets, but nobody else can. Either Doom needs to be brought down to match the power level of 7s more closely, or he needs competition. Probably the first one is better, but who knows.
I think you're missing my point a bit.
I'm saying that, given where 7-drop power level should be, dr boom is still to strong. Making more cards as powerful as dr boom would just mean you have a lot of really broken shit on 7 instead of one broken thing on 7-
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In post 2642, Iecerint wrote:In some ways it's impressive that Dr. Boom is apparently STILL OP one year later or whatever. I haven't played very regularly in at least 6 months, and that was the meta at the time.
Literally ever deck that is a midrange or control deck runs Dr. Boom still. It's fucking ridiculous.-
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In post 2710, Sudo_Nym wrote:I don't think that's what he's saying. He's saying, that with so little interaction, and with the fact that most turns feature no real decision making, the only strategy left is in deckbuilding. Which is a harsh place to be, since as you point out, any deckbuilding game is going to have netdecking. So Hearthstone is kinda shooting itself in the foot from square 1.
Pretty much this.
In Hearthstone, the only decisions you make that directly interact with your opponent are what you attack and what you cast spells on. Because there's no agency around when secrets activate, for instance, they don't really add interactivity directly. That means that the game largely comes down to just guessing which options your opponent has and running with it.
in MTG, because you have things like abilities that you can use during your opponent's turn, instances, and because the defender declares blockers, there are more points of interaction and more places for you to try to outplay your opponent. Even if there are still only ~5 top-tier decks in any given format, the match ups individually are going to be far more interesting b/c there's more gameplay skill involved.-
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Also, lol "Reno killed aggro": https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/deck ... orc-shaman
Best part about it is the deck is also super economy (1 epic, 2 rares, rest are commons/class cards)-
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In post 2717, PJ. wrote:The other big thing(and MtG was getting away from it as I was getting away from MtG because it's unfun) is resource denial. There's no way to interfere with the opponents resources.
Land-destro decks being viable is super toxic. The only reason to print those cards is for sideboard tech in limited against splashes.-
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List I'm currently running:
2x Earth Shock
2x Lightning Bolt
2x Rockbiter Weapon
2x Cogmaster
2x Tunnel Trogg
2x Crackle
2x Annoy-o-Tron
2x Flametongue Totem
2x Mechwarper
1x Totem Golem
1x Whirling Zap-o-Matic
2x Powermace
2x Spider Tank
2x Unbound Elemental
1x Jeeves
2x Piloted Shredder
1x Fire Elemental
List I'm going for:
2x Lightning Bolt
2x Rockbiter Weapon
2x Cogmaster
2x Tunnel Trogg
2x Crackle
2x Annoy-o-Tron
2x Mechwarper
2x Totem Golem
2x Whirling Zap-o-Matic
2x Lava Burst
2x Powermace
2x Spider Tank
1x Jeeves
2x Piloted Shredder
1x Doomhammer
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In post 2784, Sudo_Nym wrote:I thought the whole point of Freeze Mage was abusing Thaurissan to get cheap spells for Antonidas.
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Techies is the only character you can pick in any game that plays against both teams' wincons.
I wouldn't run Belcher - Aggro Shammy has way too many ways around it (Earth Shock, they have you in burn range anyway and laugh), and that and Aggro Druid are the two you should be building around. Too bad you can't run a third Anti Kill Bot.-
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In post 2811, Glork wrote:In post 2743, BROseidon wrote:List I'm going for:
2x Lightning Bolt
2x Rockbiter Weapon
2x Cogmaster
2x Tunnel Trogg
2x Crackle
2x Annoy-o-Tron
2x Mechwarper
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2x Whirling Zap-o-Matic
2x Lava Burst
2x Powermace
2x Spider Tank
1x Jeeves
2x Piloted Shredder
1x Doomhammer
2x Fel Reaver
So I'm trying this list with -Jeeves, +Sir Finley, and it seems good. Obviously you want Life Tap from Finley, but there are several hero powers that help you aggro people to death, whereas Shaman power only lets you maybe get a relevant totem.
This list was made before Sir Finley was out. You absolutely need Sir Finley, although I'm not sure Jeeves is the correct cut (might be a Fel Reaver).
I would also go for Steady Shot before Life Tap.-
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Given how frequently I see 2x of cards early on, that still makes me super nervous.
I've been running the deck sans doomhammers b/c I don't have them yet, and I can still pull out massive burst. I think the necessity of Doomhammer's finishing power is overstated a bit (at least at lower ranks on the ladder)-
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In post 2827, Thestatusquo wrote:I've only ever played one in my shaman builds. drawing a second is pretty bad since you wont be able to play it for like 3 turns.
The time I drew 2 was surprisingly not terrible. I think the card is just so bonkers good that having it be dead in your hand for a few turns isn't the end of the world.-
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