League of Legends (Old)

[Dwlee99]

I've been solo queueing (except for occasionally playing w/ my bro) and I've been climbing just fine.

[Dwlee99]

(except for occasionally playing w/ my bro)

leeroh is the man tbh

yea he's really chill.

[Dwlee99]

I am actually so mad that even though I don't play it like ever they made nidalee's jungle clear difficult. Like the root is how you don't die to the camps..

[Dwlee99]

Well I just got dunked on Trick2g's stream.

It was brutal >.>

ooh ooh tell more

[Dwlee99]

Well I just got dunked on Trick2g's stream.

It was brutal >.>

ooh ooh tell more

He kept running into our jungle and killing Fiddlesticks over and over again and then would splitpush all day.

Meanwhile they had a singed proxy-farming.

It was horrible.

wait what rank are you? Cause I saw them talking about it on twitch and they were on challenger accounts. Trick was like "I baited the fiddlesticks ult and then I just contested every buff" lol

[Dwlee99]

how is aurelion against assassins?

based on how one did against a zed I'll say really crappy probably because easy to dodge skillshots vs highly mobile assassins = assassin wins.

[Dwlee99]

top lane ekko with iceborn gauntlet is the worse to play against holy fuck

[Dwlee99]

Decided to rank my bronze5 account and got bronze1 yesterday. Zilean mid is broken still

I don't think you can say this when you're playing with bronze players.

[Dwlee99]

I'm talking about the overall damage and escapability combined with his ult. Sure, it's probably easier in bronze to pull off but his kit is really good

Yea I agree with you there. I hate playing against it so much. Also: Zilean + Rammus -cries-

[Dwlee99]

Decided to rank my bronze5 account and got bronze1 yesterday. Zilean mid is broken still

I don't think you can say this when you're playing with bronze players.

.........

Dwlee you realize how hypocritical that makes you yes?

what?

[Dwlee99]

I've played two games with a support top on my team (Taric/Soraka) and won both of them. What the heck

[Dwlee99]

the taric fed a poppy

[Dwlee99]

I love playing nami lucian lane. It feels so strong, nami e + the double shot. Soooo much dmg.

[Dwlee99]

tbh I feel bad for the kalista

[Dwlee99]

how do I report boosting?

[Dwlee99]

Go directly to riot support and report it.

there's no category on their tickets for reporting other people :I

[Dwlee99]

ok

[Dwlee99]

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=TOMYstarek
You can't say this account isnt being boosted lol

[Dwlee99]

Support/Mid turns into lucian spam.

[Dwlee99]

[Dwlee99]

it's annoying spending 30 minutes to play a pointless game and isn't fun for anyone.

[Dwlee99]

it's annoying spending 30 minutes to play a pointless game and isn't fun for anyone.

League isn't really that fun in the first place, and in my experience boosting situation's are a 20 minute stomp scenario. Which is almost preferable to a "50/50" game.

speak for yourself lol

[Dwlee99]

Out of curiosity, and as someone who has almost no experience with these things, what makes it so obvious that this account is boosting?

he plays a ton of mid and support, and randomly his account starts spamming adc. And then..

[Dwlee99]

maybe hes just good at lucian/adc?

he has lots of games on ezreal and caitlin?

All of his lucian games are in the past 2 days in ranked. lol
Just look at his match history and click the expand arrow.

[Dwlee99]

also they told me they're boosting

[Dwlee99]

The problem with boosters is that the account gets hard carried to a division that is far beneath their still, which heavily skews the games they're in and makes the game less fun for the other team. Then, when they get control of their account back, they play far beneath the skill level of the ELO they were boosted to, so it makes the game less fun for their team until they get demoted back to their actual skill level.

^

[Dwlee99]

Proof sona is op. Pls nerf

[Dwlee99]

apparently it doesn't work with vlad against swain

[Dwlee99]

DWLee I do have to ask because I Played with you a month ago and you were dicking around with LB and maybe trying to learn one other champion or so

but I checked this week and you were suddenly Gold I with lvl 5 on a bunch of ADCs so


With the recent talk of account boosting I'm just asking you to come clean out of curiosity, no judgements

I've always been an adc main, I just liked playing LB back then (although I kinda suck with them). Rn I've just been queueing adc/top or adc/jg and been playing irelia (I am not good at them top lane because I cant transition my lane lead well yet) but with jungle I am a bit tankier and have more map presence and it is fun.

[Dwlee99]

whenever i play normals with pie he goes some random champion, runs grasp sunfire iceborn and then wins. good meta, riot

[Dwlee99]

After tilting off the edge of the planet I think I finally untilted with my past couple of games.

[Dwlee99]

^ adding on to that dont play ekko into cho'gath.

[Dwlee99]

^ adding on to that dont play ekko into cho'gath.

Why would you not play Ekko into a Cho'gath?

His kit counters yours. The execute and the silence counter you super hard. Like you can't ult at low health when you just get eaten lol

[Dwlee99]

I was thinking about ap ekko, not tanky. Tank ekko shits on everyone lol

[Dwlee99]

Even ap ekko should be able to beat out cho, honestly. Abyssal still standard, so cho's high bases are less relevant, ekko's cd's are lower, his damage is higher, etc. I wouldn't like to be mid with ekko into cho because the shortness of the lane favors him, but in top lane ekko with any build still does well into cho imo.

i guess it depends on if cho can burst ekko or not

[Dwlee99]

hiplop y u do dis

[Dwlee99]

no I am not boosted ffs

[Dwlee99]

I was informed that some people think I'm boosted by a friend of mine who shall not be named.

[Dwlee99]

was that friend named reading Fate's post

idk but apparently there were conversations had outside this thread where people were saying they thought I boosted

Dwlee obv boosted

obv

[Dwlee99]

when 4/5 team gets S rank

feelsgoodman

and you're the fifth.
feelsbadman

[Dwlee99]

12/3/8 with highest damage and wards placed with Sivir and still don't get an S. GG

Try getting an S on Lucian. I've had several games where I had a really solid game and still got an A+ solely because of how god damn popular he is.

Every time i carry or do really well as lucian I get an A+. One time I went 11/4/11 and got a fricken A+. Finally got an S when I went 20/4/11 >.<

[Dwlee99]

I loathe jarvan

[Dwlee99]

I loathe jarvan

are there no good scripts for him or

lol

I hate playing against him, I've played him like once when he was free and he was pretty easy. I hate playing against him because people just go like warrior ravenous hydra tank and one-shot adcs and just -cries-

[Dwlee99]

hiplop get to gold before I hit plat pls

[Dwlee99]

that isnt what I am doing, at all. I just like playing w/ hiplop. Most of my games are solo.

[Dwlee99]

i mean
u did die once

I have been getting Ss from playing irelia jungle, maybe it is wards or how fast you take jungle camps or the dragon other objectives or ganks/counterganks?

[Dwlee99]

http://imgur.com/a/Rfurp

lol

I think the guy talking about backwards ulting lucians may have been in a game with me. :I

[Dwlee99]

No, he was referring to me doing that on accident once during the game.

I do that too. At least once per lucian game xD

[Dwlee99]

I blame dynamic queue for me getting 4 man ganked three times in one fricken game.

[Dwlee99]

I enjoy dynamic queue and rarely have issues with premades.

I blame dynamic queue for me getting 4 man ganked three times in one fricken game.

[Dwlee99]

like the amount of times a tp comes in as I'm about to get a kill and then their jungler and mid laner comes or something and I question my existence.

[Dwlee99]

i question my existence 24/7 but I think that is a different thread in the speakeasy

[Dwlee99]

is it because you feel guilty about the scripting thing

it is because one day we're all going to be eaten by maggots so why does anything even matter i mean hey
uh I untilted

[Dwlee99]

if you think permanence has anything to do with whether anything matters or not, then you don't have a very rigorous conception of what it means for something to matter

i love you

[Dwlee99]

I have a level 7 account and a level 10 if you wanna play sometime gif!

[Dwlee99]

Lux is sooo strong rn

[Dwlee99]

oh what she was at like 55% a patch or two ago O_O

[Dwlee99]

something something tank ekko something somsthing


And I doubt the shield was that big of a nerf.

[Dwlee99]

It was a giant nerf to her lane pattern against assassins, what are you talking about?

The delay means that talon/zed and that sort of champ can burst her HARD now.

Edit: This post @ dwlee

hmm weird

[Dwlee99]

the reason I say it ismt a big deal is because I have seen a lux use her shield like twice

[Dwlee99]

use the ability twice. Barely ever see luxs using their shields.

[Dwlee99]

I used a shield like a minor heal when the summoner heal was in cooldown. I just maxed Q as fast as I could and just went Q+R.

Standard Lux combo:

1. Cast E (once!) to create a slow field
2. Cast Q on slowed enemy to bind them
3. Immediately follow with an autoattack to proc your passive
4. Cast E again (detonates)
5. Immediately follow with another autoattack to proc passive again

If target is

somewhat low

at any amount of health you can forgo the autoattacks in favor of FINALES FLUNLKLKL

[Dwlee99]

ftfy

[Dwlee99]

Please don't direct him to use his ultimate every time he lands q.

if they are a squishy and you are farming decently landing q e and r will 100-0 someone 100% of the time.

[Dwlee99]

Please do not instill bad habits in players that are new and don't know any better.

please tell my support that when they catch someone with their binding they should use their other abilities (especially their ult). The amount of times my support lux catches a person with the snare during laning and doesnt just press e + r + e..

[Dwlee99]

3literally anytime I first pick xerath the enemy picks yasuo and just shits on me all game

lane swap with your top laner. Almost all top lame picks shit on yasuo and you can keep your distance and farm against most picks

[Dwlee99]

Tried PvP today.

Note to self: Don't fight Vayne as Ashe.

you were probably playing against a smurf. Imo ashe counters vayne until the vayne gets a quicksilver sash (and by that point you should have enough of a lead where it wont matter).
After the vayne uses her tumble you want to ult her in the face and kill her.

[Dwlee99]

Please don't direct him to use his ultimate every time he lands q.

Wait, this is bad? The CD is like, 14 seconds so I just fuckin' blast it!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Dwlee99]

like if you can bring someone to low health by using your ult it gives you huge lane pressure and the ability to zone them (even without your ultimate) and will often mean an advantage of xp and gold as they have to back or get zoned.

[Dwlee99]

Irelia beats ryze until you think about the lcs game the irelia got perma snared and 100-0d

[Dwlee99]

Irelia beats ryze until you think about the lcs game the irelia got perma snared and 100-0d

Except the ryze nerf stops this from happening as easily now.

At most i think you can get 2 snares off in one combo.

tru i was just thinking about the one time during the lcs. I'm gonna go find it.

[Dwlee99]

https://youtu.be/nEz54jxzmyU?t=50s

[Dwlee99]

Day 5



Now that I reached Level 10, I can't farm IP from bot battles D:

Also won a PvP fight.

nice dude!

[Dwlee99]

So how are any ADC mains feeling about all the changes that are coming.

The main one being the mage change, but there is also the QSS nerf and the Jungle experience increase.

not being able to qss zed ult is going to be the absolute worst. He's already op rn, so this change is ridiculous. He's already perma-banned, hopefully this continues.

[Dwlee99]

So how are any ADC mains feeling about all the changes that are coming.

The main one being the mage change, but there is also the QSS nerf and the Jungle experience increase.

not being able to qss zed ult is going to be the absolute worst. He's already op rn, so this change is ridiculous. He's already perma-banned, hopefully this continues.

I'm pretty sure you already couldn't QSS zed ult, or am I just thinking of spell shield?

you're thinking of spell shield

[Dwlee99]

You can also spell shield the application of zed ult, but not the pop.

this happened to me once as zed playing against sivir lol

[Dwlee99]

tier 2 runes suck anyway

[Dwlee99]

played my first game of tank ekko
hahahahhaha holy shit you can only die if it's like a 1v4

^ accurate

[Dwlee99]

Yea, Infinity edge rush adcs suck right now. So.much sp that tristana and ashe are going rageblade cause of it.

[Dwlee99]

I am yet to see a good vayne in one of my games

[Dwlee99]

FWAOHGOQGHQWVOWFHJOW

[Dwlee99]

I learned I am trash at this game lol

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Twisted

[Dwlee99]

got my first quadrakill with karthus

hypeee

[Dwlee99]

Probs getting demoted to bronze

I dont think you can. Im p sure you can continuously lose at 0 lp silver 5 (at least for a while) without getting demoted

[Dwlee99]

yea your mmr has to be reaalllllly bad though so that is why I said at least for a while

[Dwlee99]

I had that problem when I used to duo when I was in ~silver 3. My silver 5 friend tanked my mrr

[Dwlee99]

splitpush ziggs confirmed

[Dwlee99]

I think the point.is that if you play enough eventually the mmr will even out.

[Dwlee99]

The whole.vayne spotting thing is accurate lol.
But a lot of basic things are important. Getting better at farming, when to trade how to trade, etc. I probably coildnt tell you anything I am "doing" it is kind of just subconcious.

[Dwlee99]

oh god plat is toxic

[Dwlee99]

I have 366 games this season
heh

[Dwlee99]

You're a degenerate.

this is true

also that is just ranked

[Dwlee99]

at least I have a 58% win rate tho

[Dwlee99]

Y'all are crazy.

i have time.

[Dwlee99]

you

think

you have time

welp you're on to me gg

[Dwlee99]

one time I was like "I want to try to play katarina for funzies" and accidentally queued ranked and didnt realize until it said I got lp.

[Dwlee99]

Riot are fucking horirble for what they've done to Annie.

what is happening?

[Dwlee99]

which champions are the best/easiest when it comes to carrying a team once individually ahead

i hear ahri is pretty good

[Dwlee99]

Jhin has that trend ^^

[Dwlee99]

I'm not defending tyler1, i'm calling riot shit for making this perma ban way too late (when a player has finally started to show signs of reform) and not doing more bans of the same sorts of streamers, just because they aren't what's all in the news (thanks to meteos i might add.)

"signs of reform" is defending him. Whether he's a gentleman now or not (and obviously he is not), he deserves to be permanently banned. The fact riot was kind of slow to do so is unfortunate, but it has little bearing on whether he got the punishment he deserved. In the future, I hope Riot acts far more quickly in the future, but there's zero need to think about his "reformed" actions.

[Dwlee99]

heheh norbert fell to D5

[Dwlee99]

All the mages are going to be strong as fuck. Galio might become a permaban

[Dwlee99]

^ to explain, mages will be super strong. This means that every team will want to spam mages. both teams will want a way to deal with them. Galio becomes pick/ban

[Dwlee99]

yes dwlee we get it

:/

[Dwlee99]

When the enemy adc goes to last hit a minion if you are safe walk up and auto them. Punish them for getting near you, for trying to etc.

[Dwlee99]

trying to last hit *

[Dwlee99]

I dont want more brand support? fun.times now that his ult also slows djeinfne

[Dwlee99]

Can we go back to 6.8? . Guinsoo's was removed so what do I build on irelia. I will need to relearn the mages so I dont get shit on them when.I.am playing adc. -repeated blehhing-

[Dwlee99]

Not first on irelia, and I thought it was getting removed?

[Dwlee99]

oh wow. Is that better or worse ya think?

[Dwlee99]

Can we go back to 6.8? . Guinsoo's was removed so what do I build on irelia. I will need to relearn the mages so I dont get shit on them when.I.am playing adc. -repeated blehhing-

You don't need to, adcs can't not get shit on right now.
Definitely agree with the sentiment, game is in an awful place right now. No one can deal with mages since they nerfed every fucking MR item

What do I do? I am an adc main.. I was already having problems in plat 5 as it seems so much harder to kill tanks that got ahead even a little bit and any mid laner or assassin jungler is gonna f you up if they get ahead anyway. Now I am going to have absolutely zero chance doing anything (especially the giant aoe abilties..) and gjdj.n

[Dwlee99]

I had a game in plat 5 where a lee sin tried to 1 v 2 a janna jhin at level 4 in all of their minions. I then proceeded to win the lane somehow, even out the kill and get almost a 50 cs advantage. Alas, my top fed a khazix jungle and I got one shot all game. Oh, btw, my support was a galio

[Dwlee99]

GENERALLY GRIEVOUS Reduces self healing by 40% ⇒ all healing received by 40%
YESYESYESYES

[Dwlee99]

It's weird bnecause weren't ADCs by far the strongest role like 2-3 patches ago?

uhm no? Tanks have always had a much bigger impact from 0-35ish minutes.

[Dwlee99]

do we have any kind of teamspeak or mumble server?

discord: https://discord.gg/0qTigxqYM8IVrEHv

[Dwlee99]

Honestlyyyy, I wouldnt be suprised if adcs werent seen for a bit.
Also splitpushing doesnt work when mid laners and tanks will be able to duel you and you cant 2 v 1 the support and adc unless ridiculously ahead

[Dwlee99]

did orianna get any buffs? She is my favorite mid and I might pick hee up

[Dwlee99]

I mean, the core adc build is still like IE + ZealItem + Lifesteal

QSS has always been situational. Nothing changes there

That was true in past seasons, hiplop. It isn't true for most ADCs anymore.

[Dwlee99]

Idk for the ADCs I play, the build is still IE + zeal thing(hurricane right now) + bt.

So you play cait and jinx? I don't know with the new guinsoo's but ashe and tristana were building guinsoo's last patch. Those are the only ie ones?

[Dwlee99]

I liked ashe better with IE huuricane. But yeah I play ashe, cait, jinx. Graves too but not that spot and not that build.

Varus is an essence reaver guy, right? I think most others are essence reaver guys like luc or guinsoos like kog. Oh and the Vayne twitch bork pd ie dealie.

Tbh the way things are going I think essence reaver hurricane ie will be core on ashe now and become a top tier pick as a supportive adc.

[Dwlee99]

Change from devourer to bloodrazor might make irelia much more viable.

[Dwlee99]

in the jungle ^

[Dwlee99]

15% of maximum health in phsyical dmg on ww ult. not bad

[Dwlee99]

first dwlee, now you, how does this bother adc's? All of these characters are stationary, mostly backline, cc bringing champions which bring aoe damage. They are alleviating the burden of an ADC to do damage, as well as providing peel from the backline. If you are standing next to a malzahar as a vayne, he didn't tumble right next to you. Somehow you are worried about the role that competes with assassins for spots, and actually acts as a lighting rod/defensive champ for you against them. How does this make the adc's life harder?

^ non-adc player confirmed

[Dwlee99]

ADC are always whiners. The Mage update has very little effect on ADC's since you shouldn't be getting near them anyway.

... lol

[Dwlee99]

Even essence reaver adcs have little impact.

[Dwlee99]

It's for the same reason, too.

They have to be able to get an Infinity Edge in order to be able to scale into lategame alongside IE-rush ADCs, but it's hard to justify getting it as a third item unless you're crushing the game since you won't have lifesteal or any defenses.

^^^

[Dwlee99]

ADC shouldn't be relevant early game. It makes the support role just useless if it is.

They should be at least somewhat relevant mid game though

[Dwlee99]

Go play adc for a few games

[Dwlee99]

Every single mage has to play against the other mages, that is why their win rates are stable.

[Dwlee99]

And the ADCs get to play against the other ADCs.

You don't get the point.
If ALL adc's could kill tanks in 2 autos, all the adcs would have win rates around 50%. I bet you would call adcs op in that situation. So therefore saying "All mages have around a 50% win rate therefore they're not broken" is illogical.

[Dwlee99]

And the ADCs get to play against the other ADCs.

You don't get the point.
If ALL adc's could kill tanks in 2 autos, all the adcs would have win rates around 50%. I bet you would call adcs op in that situation. So therefore saying "All mages have around a 50% win rate therefore they're not broken" is illogical.

not even remotely true

literally 50% of the mages have a sub-50% winrate

yall are whining over the smallest change

YES IT IS. THIS REASONING MAKES 100% SENSE EOJFSHGGHOSHFAO

And the ADCs get to play against the other ADCs.

You don't get the point.
If ALL adc's could kill tanks in 2 autos, all the adcs would have win rates around 50%. I bet you would call adcs op in that situation. So therefore saying "All mages have around a 50% win rate therefore they're not broken" is illogical.

If ADCs could kill tanks in 2 autos no other class would be relevant and you know it.

I'm aware, but the adcs would still have around 50% win rates because all of them are op.

[Dwlee99]

Like ok let me explain myself better.
Let's assume adcs 2 shot tanks but for some reason were still played exclusively in the adc role.
So they would all have around a 50% win rate based on how good they were in RELATION to the other adcs. It doesn't matter that they are all OP in relation to the other roles cause every team has an adc.

[Dwlee99]

Or alternatively:
Let's assume the average champion is 5/10 on how good they are.
If all roles except mages were 2/10 at how good they were and there was a list of mages:
A: 6/10
B: 7/10
C: 8/10
D: 9/10
E: 10/10

A could have a 47%
B 49%
C 51%
D 53%
E 55%

It doesn't matter that mages are op since their win rates are determined through how they good in relation to other champions.

[Dwlee99]

I'm aware, but the adcs would still have around 50% win rates because all of them are op.

You're saying to sacrifice the balance of every other class and make them useless just so ADCs can be broken as fuck. That's the worst balance decision I've ever heard.

Holy fuck.

I AM USING AN EXAMPLE. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS HOW THE GAME SHOULD BE BALANCED. GNIEWSHOHTH

[Dwlee99]

I wonder how the time you guys take to post about this game compares to the time you spend playing it

while I post here I'm also skyping and doing mafia so like *shrug*

[Dwlee99]

Counters dont really matter much unless it is like katarina v malzahar

[Dwlee99]

Oh yea just realized trundle is probz unbeatable as irelia now cause of qss changes.

[Dwlee99]

When in the fuck did anyone but a Qss because of trundle ult

anyone who isnt brain dead and wants to duel trundle?

[Dwlee99]

Counters dont really matter much unless it is like katarina v malzahar

But every role counters adc :3

*cough*

?

I accidentally posted on my alt making a joke.

[Dwlee99]

Against ap as tank ekko I would go bami's cinder into visage to iceborn to sunfire

[Dwlee99]

did they hotfix that rageblade vayne yet

Vayne is at a 49.5% win rate so no

[Dwlee99]

I'm salty because I have the mastery shards for level 6 ashe and lucian but no essence.

[Dwlee99]

thinking about it taric + twitch would be the most OP bot lane ever once twitch gets to 3 items. You have taric ult the twitch and then as the ult is about to go off you turn up behind the entire enemy team's backline and kill them in 4 autos while being invincible cause #Invulnerability

[Dwlee99]

lock the thread

[Dwlee99]

I don't understand why there isn't transparency. I've never ever ever liked that Riot has taken information from the player, and over the course of like 5 years, they've made basically everything a company secret, even stats.

seriously. look at dota 2 tooltips:



Like they actually give useful information

by contrast, how am I supposed to know whether maxing e or q on ekko first gives more damage or better cooldowns?

patch notes are sometimes a mystery too

you know because when you hover over the level up button it tells you how much you get for leveling it up.