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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:03 pm

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In post 5, Morning Tweet wrote:hi Albert hi Pooky hi Kanna hi Infinity hi Nahdia hi Ali hi Hop hi clidd

hii everybody!! (´・ω・`)

VOTE: Jesse
Strong entrance from Morning. Attempting to buddy 8 people simultaneously is a bold move, but I've never seen it not pay off for her.
In post 6, Kanna wrote:hi morning!! VOTE: clidd you know why, don't you?

Spoiler:
dear secret admirer,

i must confess i was deeply moved by your heartfelt and slightly creepy letter. i wish to meet you. for real this time. tonight. who are you, i wonder? could you be my one true love?

love,
kanna
Vague and mysterious post from Kanna, going for big plays here.
In post 7, Hopkirk wrote:
I love you, so very much.
:oops: :oops: :oops:
In post 5, Morning Tweet wrote:hi Albert hi Pooky hi Kanna hi Infinity hi Nahdia hi Ali hi Hop hi clidd

hii everybody!! (´・ω・`)

VOTE: Jesse
Welcome back. I'll need to you obvtown real fast or I'll have to do the whole buddy cop thing with someone else.
Hop lining up the pressure on Morning, let's see if this works out or turns into a toxic 1v1.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 1, anahit wrote:coming off a royalty themed game with no royals, maybe a
love letter
themed game? (i think it converts alright, but again, maybe too easy)
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:15 am

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That was an excellent retelling... thank you. However, you did forget the part where "launching" was just a metaphor for ascending to a higher plane of existence. The launched parties were the real winners in that game.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:17 am

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I'm curious to see if you can figure out ~what's going on~ or at least a vague idea of it, anahit

There may or may not have been crumbs already
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Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:48 pm

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On the bright side, we get to talk to Infinity now here! I heard he was a really cool guy.

It felt like a RVS wagon that for some reason went all the way.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:52 pm

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I'm still eagerly awaiting for when you upgrade to version 325 btw

Hope the developers haven't abandoned you or anything
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Post Post #20 (isolation #6) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:52 pm

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anahit, some of the crumbs may or may not be not subtle at all

You clearly got the Infinity/Jesse buddy vibes down, but there is SO much more
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Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:54 pm

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In post 8, anahit wrote:pooky also said frozen lake in the first poem which made me think of the scene on the frozen lake in alexander nevsky which led me to think about why people are so familiar with eisenstein but not dovzhenko/solntseva which led me to watch parts of aelita queen of mars and earth but if that is relevant it is almost assuredly not for this reason
Oh God, did you reveal the setup to anahit, Ydrasse? We need to get some spoilers on this...

Pooky's a Third Party Lake Freezer, if he targets a Fisherman at night, they will be stranded on a frozen lake, and thus be untargetable by any other actions.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #8) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:56 pm

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In post 21, Infinity 324 wrote:About that, version 325 is gonna come out a few years ago.
They're
downscaling
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Post Post #26 (isolation #9) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:57 pm

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In post 24, anahit wrote:
In post 17, Hectic wrote:It felt like a RVS wagon that for some reason went all the way.
it seems as likely """for some reason""" as for some reason to me, but you would know
I certainly would.... but I can not say too much
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Post Post #35 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:54 am

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In post 28, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 23, Hectic wrote:They're downscaling you over the years??
Not exactly, but the upgrading process is...let's say...not exactly consistent. They assure me that there's always an upward trend of improvement, but they can't promise that every new model is an upgrade. Something about time not being linear as it relates to infinities.
Huh. The next game I run I'll have to have flavour where the players go back in time to 1400 and encounter Infinity 999 or something like that, and then maybe some people get cloned and time gets inverted and you realise the story's actually being told backwards.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #11) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:57 am

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THE NUMBERS MASON

I think that
you
are much more skilled at crumbing than the average player, anahit, which makes you look for incredibly subtle details. You've quoted one of the crumbs though, or at least part of it if it makes up more than one post.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:31 pm

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You were formidable, Nahdia. I don't think a single person suspected you in there. You were like a silent assassin....
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Post Post #54 (isolation #13) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:31 pm

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Noraa, get your scumteam guess in early for bragging rights, you've probably figured it all out, right?
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Post Post #57 (isolation #14) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 37, anahit wrote:snip
lol fantastic collection of theories you have there. You've actually managed to give me some ideas for future setups with your analysis.
Solving a game backwards by finding a hidden mirror dimension sounds pretty fun....

Clones usually fall in love, but being the same person can have it's difficulties, healthy communication being one of them. It's good in a scenario like this to use carrier pigeons, as the space can allow them to take a breather and make more rational decisions.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #15) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:38 pm

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In post 55, Noraa wrote:
In post 54, Hectic wrote:Noraa, get your scumteam guess in early for bragging rights, you've probably figured it all out, right?
Hopkirk/Morning Tweet/????
In post 56, Infinity 324 wrote:My guess: ahsoka/uncrowned/maybe alisae
Hate to break it to you guys, but I'm actually unspoiled. I'm leaving myself open to potentially rep in later.

@Ydrasse:
Are there any scum in these 5 names?
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Post Post #62 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:46 pm

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There's a mod pt?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:57 pm

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Some really really strange things are happening right now

Ydrasse and I are very confused but it sure is entertaining
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Post Post #161 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:02 pm

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VOTE: Ydrasse
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Post Post #166 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:39 pm

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Spoiler: Pages 1 and 2
In post 0, Ydrasse wrote:
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Strangers and the dance floor, all night long.

Albert B. Rampage, Morning Tweet, Nahdia, Alisae, and Uncrowned
In post 1, Alisae wrote:what is up people
In post 2, Alisae wrote:happy new year
In post 3, Alisae wrote:ah yeah this is a nightclub fuck ya
In post 4, Alisae wrote:who wants to dance
In post 5, Alisae wrote:its the new year we gotta start the new year off with some dancin
who's game
In post 6, Alisae wrote:we be dancin like its Saturday Night Fever over here
In post 7, Alisae wrote:ywall fuckin sleepin over here holy shit
In post 8, Alisae wrote:LAAAAAAAAME
imagine not staying up to celebrate the new year
In post 9, Alisae wrote:im fuckin hyper man im in a nightclub bro
honestly 10/10 game
In post 10, Alisae wrote:in this mafia game you get to be in a nightclub

wow if only you could do that in other games

hell you can't even be a pirate in most mafia games
why?
because fuck you thats why
In post 11, Alisae wrote:Have you gone to space in a mafia game?
I haven't
moderators fucking suck bro
In post 12, Alisae wrote:can't even go to space
smh
In post 13, Alisae wrote:man imagine if you could go to space
In post 14, Alisae wrote:wouldn't that just make everything ten times as awesome
In post 15, Alisae wrote:BADADADADA DOW DOW DOW
BADADADADA DOW DOW DOW
BADADADADA DOW DOW DOW
BA DA
In post 16, Alisae wrote:LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In post 17, Alisae wrote:but no seriously this soundtrack is killer
In post 18, Alisae wrote:if u disagree im voting you off the cuffs and you need to get the fuck out of my nightclub
In post 19, Alisae wrote:ya this is my nightclub now
fuck off ydra
mine
In post 20, Alisae wrote:honestly she's probably not even postin cuz she doesn't wanna dance in her own nightclub

tbh why even bother having a nightclub if ur not gonna post
In post 21, Alisae wrote:tbh i've been to a nightclub like once and it was awful

they just blew up music and it was obnoxious
like it was bad music too but maybe I just hate most popular music tbh

maybe it was a rave tbh

honestly i couldn't tell you the difference im stupid monkey ooga booga
In post 22, Nahdia wrote:hi alisae
In post 23, Alisae wrote:NAHDIA
do you wanna dance?
In post 24, Alisae wrote:how was your new year?
In post 25, Alisae wrote:my new year was horrible i tried to play a game of league of legends and my bestie was so drunk he banned my champion so i locked in nidalee out of spite despite my nidalee being dogshit and he ran it down and i ran it down
then the next game i got my champion but i was so tilted from the game prior that i couldn't focus and jungle gap the enemy team
so to compensate im enjoying the nightclub
In post 26, Alisae wrote:like yo

we're in a nightclub
In post 27, Nahdia wrote:yesyes, let's dance.

quiet. but yakno, 2020. i worked on the puzzle I got for Christmas and talked with my parents for a bit on the phone. so nice, I guess, if a bit dull. hope yours was nice too.

pedit oh wow you made two more posts. you're really a bundle of energy tonight, huh? sorry about your league of legends woes.
In post 28, Alisae wrote:Its the new year

are you not a bundle of energy?
In post 29, Alisae wrote:omg puzzle
In post 30, Alisae wrote:what was the puzzle
In post 31, Alisae wrote:puzzles are cool
In post 32, Alisae wrote:btw nahdia ur town right
In post 33, Alisae wrote:hopefully everyone in this pt is town

if you're not town you should say so
In post 34, Alisae wrote:this masonry is amazing if we're all town
i get a neighborhood with nahdia uncrowned MT and ABR and its a nightclub

honestly sounds like im living the dream
In post 35, Alisae wrote:Hopefully everyone is town right?
In post 36, Alisae wrote:but ya my league games were a real tragedy

honestly tho this nightclub being dead is probably more tragic somehow i don't know how you can end up being more tragic then games of league of legends idunno what to say
In post 37, Alisae wrote:i blame whoever is not town in here.
In post 38, Alisae wrote:abr have we actually been town together before
I think it only happened like once but the times we played we were like almost always scum togehter
man thats actually wild
In post 39, Alisae wrote:but ya i'm pumped
i randed the best alignment ever aka town and I'm in a nightclub with hopefully 4 other townies, those being ABR MT Nahdia and Uncrowned
how would you not be pumped
In post 40, Alisae wrote:idunno i honestly think it would be impossible to not be pumped tbh
In post 41, Alisae wrote:the only reason why you wouldn't be pumped is because ur not town
only reason
so if I see anyone who is not pumped ur ass is grass
In post 42, Alisae wrote:finally
this thread showed up in my ego
took long enough smh
In post 43, Uncrowned wrote:Hey I was just thinking about getting into league again, been a few months since I first gave it a shot.

Happy New Year to everyone also!

For those of you who don't know me, my name is Towncrowned. I probably won't post in here much just because, well... let's be real, there's probably a scum in here somewhere, right?
In post 44, Alisae wrote:welcome to the night club
glad to hear ur town!
In post 45, Uncrowned wrote:I am also glad!
In post 46, Alisae wrote:im here to shitpost and enjoy teh nightclub
how are you enjoying the nightclub
In post 47, Uncrowned wrote:I like the vibe, for sure.

I think they need to give me the power to choose what music we play, though.
In post 48, Alisae wrote:what would you be playin
In post 49, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Nice group hi guys
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Post Post #169 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:41 pm

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Spoiler: Pages 3 and 4
In post 50, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 21, Alisae wrote:tbh i've been to a nightclub like once and it was awful

they just blew up music and it was obnoxious
like it was bad music too but maybe I just hate most popular music tbh

maybe it was a rave tbh

honestly i couldn't tell you the difference im stupid monkey ooga booga
LOL
In post 51, Morning Tweet wrote:(〜^∇^)〜 hello everybody (ノ^ω^)ノ
In post 52, Nahdia wrote:(ノ☉ヮ⚆)ノ ⌒*:・゚✧
In post 54, Alisae wrote:Wow guys really low energy here at the nightclub
Honestly that’s rly sad
In post 55, Alisae wrote:What do you people think of the Ahsoka v Hopkirk interaction that just happened?
In post 56, Uncrowned wrote:ahsoka town
In post 57, Alisae wrote:What do we think this flips
In post 58, Morning Tweet wrote:wtf is jesse talking about I was voting him
In post 59, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 57, Alisae wrote:What do we think this flips
Above random % scum just off of how confident ppl seemed to be, infinity was kinda defensive i guess and not like my last game with him. of course, he didnt get speed wagoned there

the lover thing and thinking jesse is town makes me think higher chance too
In post 60, Morning Tweet wrote:I would say infinity was kinda formal in a way, just focusing on what he thought the entire time and never really had much of a reaction to anything. just explaining himself and so on. I dont really have much of an opinion beyond that he probably has some extra chance to be scum in absence of anything I tr
In post 61, Morning Tweet wrote:Mm this is going to be interesting now
In post 62, Morning Tweet wrote:Off the bat i feel like people who were erring on confirm biasing Infinity as scum are probably slightly more likely town than those who were more cautious

of course I should be wary about that cause it could just be faked in order to get a speedy elim with a bonus kill on town Jesse. So as much as id like to write off say flavour and hop, it's definitely something i could envision flavour doing, dont know about Hop yet. Hopkirk has a really similar playstyle to me where he usually assembles a town bloc and PoEs, so this is a new look for him. Would he switch to this as scum though, I lean that he wouldn't, if hes like me anyway. the only times i ever get confident on a SR out of nowhere are when im town cause as scum i know that it contrasts my usual play

you would think Pooky being paranoid he gets nightkilled is weird as shit since there was no reason to believe he would be -- but he did it in Charas Folly around D4 where he randomly made a huge deal out of getting thoughts out cause he thought he might die (when he had like a 1% chance of it). dont really know what goes thru his head when he thinks that but he isnt immediately sus for that reason.

i am going to try and produce thoughts that aren't half assed later during this night phase cause I kinda just irl slept this day one away. idk if you guys are interested in hearing or not but yea
In post 63, Uncrowned wrote:that was unexpected

to my homie infinity, I am deeply sorry
In post 64, Albert B. Rampage wrote:why did this happen
In post 65, Morning Tweet wrote:i've read through it now. Amazing what just a couple of respected players finding another player *really* scummy early on can accomplish, apparently

I feel that Ahsoka tended to blow things out of proportion to put it lightly, first with Hop early (which is expected, since that's mega early game), but then also in a more deadly manner with Infinity.

237 by Ahsoka - i could see Infinity's vote combined with lacking knowledge of Ahsoka's interactions causing a town!Ahsoka to become tunneled, sure. It's weird that he gives no thought to the scenario where Infinity simply didn't interpret the situation the same way he did (Hopkirk discrediting him). Reading this again, it's pretty clear that Infinity saw what FL was talking about but was asking for clarification. sigh
263 by Ahsoka - While "doesn't mean it's not readable" sounds good on the surface level, I think a lot of FL's points are just kinda invalidated if Hopkirk isn't being serious. Like he thinks Hop essentially calling FL 'chicken' is Hop trying to push a narrative that he's afraid? Stuff like that. I think trying to draw information out of the fact he's being jokey itself is possible, although I seriously doubt anything from Hop was scummy really, it's what im used to seeing
264 by Ahsoka - It sucks now that it's fairly obvious Infinity (as either alignment) wasn't missing anything and simply interpreted the situation differently from FL

Whatever that's enough of that. I don't know what FL would do as either alignment, but i get the feeling I'm going to disagree with his pushes constantly just by heavy clash of playstyle

Kanna feels a tad stiff in 282, it feels like things I would think of saying rather than things i would actually say, so if Kanna is like me, then it's a bit off looking. Don't know how to explain beyond how it just looks like reading off a script where you're trying to hit a bunch of points: Give a read -> be uncertain about self -> ask someone for reads -> be uncertain about self (say you'll get mocked -> be sad about something minor -> ask a question -> make slightly awkward joke about being scum. Admittedly i wouldnt add the part about secret scumreads but maybe that's a Kanna exclusive part of the script. Is this too much of a stretch?

295 by clidd - This is generally in the same vein of thinking i was abt infinity -- he was very explainy for whatever reason. Clidd's point that Infinity was more interested in clarifying himself than he was in actually getting an interaction is probably faintly where i was going with that. Obviously looking at FL's points themselves i can see why Infinity did this now in hindsight >.> so oh well. Possibly a good look from clidd but need more. Clidd kind of loses me after this part so idrk

314 by Ahsoka - so again going back to Ahsoka against Infinity: this makes FL's case sound pretty good and i bought into this while skimming but it's not really true since the representation that FL thinks Infinity is missing was just FL's own personal interpretation. I would say that im surprised FL didn't think of how other people can see things differently from him, but a lot of ppl thought the way FL did, apparently so i guess not? I mean including me cause I still really hadn't played. But still, he is basically getting away with making this case sound solid af when this point isn't really true. Earlier FL replied to the post where Infinity clarified that he saw the situation differently -- so what is FL even claiming that Infinity had inaccurate here..?

318 by Hopkirk - I love that Hop reveals his intention with the 1v1 was basically just to poke a player who is showing ego, thats believable enough to me
320 by Hopkirk - Yeah i agree infinity's speculation of FL!town doesnt seem quite right, i also think Hopkirk finding it weird Infinity only focuses on Ahsoka is believable

322 by Ahsoka - We're entering straight-up lying territory, FL is accusing Infinity of not having known the content his posts -- but again, the only part where I see FL claim this is when Infinity said "Who has been discrediting you? Hopkirk?". FL interprets that as Infinity missing a section, when in reality, Infinity was being like "What, are you talking about that Hopkirk part?" I have no idea if this was as obvious back then as it is to me now knowing Infinity's alignment now, as i gave wayy less thought during the day phase. would appreciate feedback on this bit

327 by Hopkirk - Hopkirk is not even using the reasoning FL keeps bringing up -- good. He's my biggest pick so far for the "conf-biased townie on Infinity" guess ive been making

344 by Pooky - I do see why Pooky would find it odd that FL puts time into analyzing Jesse for reasons outside of the lover thing (although FL clarified he didnt see it ofc)
347 by Pooky - ik that it makes no sense for Pooky to be randomly concerned about getting NKed, but i've seen it from him before in the past so i dont think it's AI

I think Hoppy's sheer confidence on a scumread so early is a good look for him since it's not something i would think to do to emulate my townplay as scum so if he's like me, then he wouldn't think to do it as scum. Not certain yet cause like FL adding on all the extra reasons would have made it easier, but ill award town points to Hop where they've been earned

382 by Infinity - Yeah so obviously Infinity was fully aware of how FL was misconstruing that post of his like ive been saying here but obviously it's easy for me to say now so whatever

Idk wtf Hop is trying to say to me end of day but i want to theorize he was getting confirm biased on Infinity scum and already starting to see me as being possibly with him, so i think thats lean town too. Good acting job if scum though i think
In post 66, Morning Tweet wrote:so kind of weak D1 but i would say probably Ali and Hop are more likely town

Kanna felt a bit weird

i really want to engage with Ahsoka on his case being (intentionally?) puffed up but like i don't really know if i'd ever succeed at figuring that out even if FL is scum. I'm not sure if i can really be sure FL was doing it on purpose, either. Maybe it really was an easy think to get confirm biased on and agree with, i mean obviously the thread did so i guess it doesn't really make sense for me to beat him over it since i have hindsight now. But like, im sure someone could have noticed what he was saying wasn't true at least for that main bit ("Infinity wanted to have a scumread there but didn't actually understand the situation himself so it felt hollow"). Like that wasn't true but it sounded golden
In post 67, Morning Tweet wrote:Really should have asked this question before writing my notes out but i did it in thread and wasnt thinking, ill ask anyway though

@Uncrowned
i was thinking maybe you were just joking around (i mean, overblowing your read a bit to add to the pressure, since your posts were kinda short and memey), but judging by your apology it seems that you were also felt pretty decent about Infinity!scum. if it's not a dumb question, I'm curious as to what the main factor causing your level of confidence in Infinity being scum was?

i'm not going to rail on people for missing things or having a bad read i'm just curious to hear what your thoughts on him were
In post 68, Uncrowned wrote:oh nah i didn't really think he was all that scummy based on play but i wanted to see his reaction to getting wagoned

the sorry thing is more because he got elimmed so quickly and him kanna and i were all gassed to be playing together LOL so that was kind of a rip
In post 69, Uncrowned wrote:i no efforted D1 feelsbadman will be a good boi D2 promise
In post 70, Uncrowned wrote:i am pre sure ali and clidd town tho
In post 71, Uncrowned wrote:hop kanna pooky

>rand scum
In post 72, Uncrowned wrote:scratch that kanna neutral for now
In post 73, Uncrowned wrote:oh yah and ahsoka prob town too
In post 74, Uncrowned wrote:ye so pooky sneaking onto wagon early and then pushing it EOD1 while trying to push ahsoka/infintiy both being scum narrative looked kinda forced/fabricated whereas ahsoka's response to that appearing like it was "damage control" actually seemed like a legitimate townie reaction

plus ye someone brought up pooky's whole "scared of dying N1" thing which also came off as real fake considering they'd done nothing in the game to be feared from any slot in the game

let's elim this tomorrow guys
In post 75, Uncrowned wrote:MT my g you kinda giving me scumpings
In post 76, Uncrowned wrote:how you gonna sideline the infinity wagon and only now start discrediting people that were pushing it. feels off
In post 77, Alisae wrote:ya i do think it could be weird that pooky saying he doesn't want to get shot in thread.
It's almost like he's asking to get shot tbh but like I don't think thats something that comes from scum ever.
In post 78, Alisae wrote:i scumread a player in this neighborhood
not saying who but feel free to guess
In post 79, Alisae wrote:im not worried about hopkirk or clid tho.
scum is probably gonna shoot one of those slots. I would personally shoot clid but hopkirk is a viable shot
In post 80, Alisae wrote:like those 2 slots probably resolve themselves if they're town
In post 81, Alisae wrote:tho honestly if clid or hopkirk are slots that scum want alive (or are scum), they might look to shoot someone like say kanna or just shoot pooky because they have nothing else better to do and pooky doesn't want to get shot for some reason, so much so that he went out of his way to say so when he didn't have to?

kanna is a really good shot if either of those are scum or if scum wants to keep those 2 players alive because i honsetly don't think that she's that scummy and also she can be kinda threatening to go against if she's town.
In post 82, Alisae wrote:MT seems townie based on hood posting
In post 83, Alisae wrote:I could definitely get shot now that I'm thinking about it and if I'm correct about who is scum then I need to keep my lips sealed.
In post 84, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 76, Uncrowned wrote:how you gonna sideline the infinity wagon and only now start discrediting people that were pushing it. feels off
u what

You mean why didnt I do anything about it while it was active? i only read the entire thread last night. prior to that i was just phone posting in between naps. Convenient timing to not defend Infinity while it's up, sure i guess.

Also the Infinity wagon is basically the only thing i have to work with, so
In post 85, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 68, Uncrowned wrote:oh nah i didn't really think he was all that scummy based on play but i wanted to see his reaction to getting wagoned

the sorry thing is more because he got elimmed so quickly and him kanna and i were all gassed to be playing together LOL so that was kind of a rip
oh LMAO

Yeah that makes sense
In post 86, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont think scum shoots Pooky, it seems awfully likely that he takes at least some heat tomorrow for the weird nk paranoia and sheeping on infinity (while possibly looking like he was forcing Ahsoka/Infinity, as uncrowned notes?)

I usually find that Pooky is scummier as town because presumably he's putting in less effort to look good, idk if he makes those "wtf?" nightkill posts as scum

Although I guess if you interpret it as a soft that he really doesnt want to get NKed, maybe scum goes there. I won't comment on that much though
In post 87, Morning Tweet wrote:I can get behind townleaning on clidd although not as much as Ali and Hop. Tbh i do lean into thinking Pooky doesnt usually make odd scumreadable posts as scum and I'd expect him to have played a greater part in the D1 rather than just chill and make the odd comment or two

What does that leave?

hop, ali
pooky, clidd
-
Kanna, Ahsoka

I'd like to discuss reads
with
hoodmates but i dont really want to give reads
on
hoodmates too much during night

Oh regarding Uncrowneds point about Ahsoka coming off as genuine in his response to Pooky trying to put Ahsoka with Infinity -- i recall it looking good, but would have to revisit if it's enough to make me think Ahsoka is town for it. it's good acting but FL is probably capable of assuming a townie is scum and then interpreting the game from that lens (as scum)
In post 88, Menalque wrote:Hey nice, we get a 5 person scum faction in a 13p

Some would say that’s scumsided setup design but I’ll take it
In post 89, Menalque wrote:Haven’t read anything yet, who we killin
In post 90, Menalque wrote:I see morning is ranking threats, I’d prob put pooky higher up on the list tbh

I also don’t think ali can be a threat to us when e’s in the pt
In post 91, Morning Tweet wrote:hia mena!
In post 92, Menalque wrote:Hi morning! It’s nice to see u but also I’m ~kinda~ checked out from mafia atm so we’re using this as a “dipping foot back into water” game
In post 93, Menalque wrote:Scale of 1-10 do i really need to read D1 or nah?
In post 94, Morning Tweet wrote:it's like 16 pages long and u can skip the first 4-5

But as far as D1s go, this one is pretty skippable by comparison. Not like i like D1s that much to begin with
In post 95, Menalque wrote:Well, I mean, when u put it like that
In post 96, Menalque wrote:Ngl the 16 pages thing did lightly play into why I took the rep slot but the bigger factor was the beautiful letter I received a few days ago
In post 97, Menalque wrote:Why do you think D1 was only 16 pages?
In post 98, Menalque wrote:Like in current site meta and considering this PL that seems particularly low
In post 99, Menalque wrote:Also why did infinity get guillotined?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:44 pm

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Spoiler: Pages 5 and 6
In post 100, Menalque wrote:Still so sad that guillotina isn’t an alt of mine tbh
In post 101, Menalque wrote:My in depth post count analysis says hopkirk and Ahsoka are maybe slightly more likely to be town

Clidd and ABR slightly +sus
In post 102, Menalque wrote:I can never remember if pooky not taking anything seriously is more often scum him or town him but I /do/ recall him leaning heavily into the flavour in wolfdance redux (as I am naming epilogue) and idk if I recall him being whimsical in that particular way when he’s been town
In post 103, Menalque wrote:Ali: makes a million billion posts here
Also ali: dips the fuck out when I’m actually around
In post 104, Morning Tweet wrote:regarding Pooky I think that's lightly more town him cause scum him usually doesnt come off as suspicious whereas town him always seem to do something weird d1. Pooky as scum usually tries to take hold of the game more too i believe whereas here he's hiding ??
In post 105, Morning Tweet wrote:Do you think it's likely town!Flavour uses something he probably knows isn't convincing in order to make his case seem better?

Like he kept using "Infinity pushed me without having an accurate understanding of my play" as a reason (he made it sound better than that but yeah) -- but it should have been decently clear that Infinity simply interpreted the posts differently

Basically it went like:

FL: "I'm being discredited"
Infinity: "By who? Hopkirk?"
FL: "See, Infinity doesn't even know about my fight with Hop, yet he claims to scumread me"

Infinity was saying "Are you saying Hopkirk is discrediting you?" (and he clarified it as such), and yet, FL keeps using it as a reason. He claims that Infinity doesnt "even have context of his posts" even though Infinity had reiterated that he just understood the posts differently. Infinity literally demonstrates that he knows the context by asking about Hop specifically

This was an important part of FL's case cause he reiterates it one two three four times.

i gtg but i would love to hear feedback on this cause i dont really know how FL operates
In post 106, Menalque wrote:Does he? That’s mixed from what I remember of him

He only tries to take control of he feels he needs to, otherwise he’s kind of happy to coast out

I also... don’t really agree on the point about scum him not seeming suspicious? I think scum him *does* come across that way, I just think his charisma normally compensates sufficiently for it and he’s very good at staying relaxed even when he’s under a lot of pressure. That’s how he slipped out from under me in
most
a couple of our games

Then again I have also horrendously mistunnelled him before I think so I’m not like the most confident on reading him
In post 107, Morning Tweet wrote:like that part of Infinity's case is at least half of why he died
In post 108, Morning Tweet wrote:ok bye league
In post 109, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 101, Menalque wrote:My in depth post count analysis says hopkirk and Ahsoka are maybe slightly more likely to be town

Clidd and ABR slightly +sus
Bah
In post 110, Menalque wrote:The shortest answer to the above is “yes, probably”

Like FL was someone who had a p big influence on me in my early days and I think one of the reasons he’s so effective as scum is that if he thinks someone is scum then he’s very happy to fabricate/misrep to try and elim them, through to claiming a false guilty (which I think he’s done as town since I’ve been on site)

So I guess it comes down to more “why was FL scumreading infinity /aside/ from that?” Bc if he had strong reasons for it yeah, he’d say whatever if it helped get him elimmed

If it’s /just/ that then it’s questionable why he used it to push esp as he did seem to believe it given the quickhammer
In post 111, Menalque wrote:
In post 109, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 101, Menalque wrote:My in depth post count analysis says hopkirk and Ahsoka are maybe slightly more likely to be town

Clidd and ABR slightly +sus
Bah
I mean you have cumulatively made less posts in here and in main thread (and without about as much as content) as I have in like an hour or something
In post 112, Menalque wrote:You can’t really deny that that’s your scum!meta, ABR
In post 113, Menalque wrote:Also hi I guess, I will try to avoid this becoming as much of a shitshow as GnRIV
In post 114, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 106, Menalque wrote:Does he? That’s mixed from what I remember of him

He only tries to take control of he feels he needs to, otherwise he’s kind of happy to coast out

I also... don’t really agree on the point about scum him not seeming suspicious? I think scum him *does* come across that way, I just think his charisma normally compensates sufficiently for it and he’s very good at staying relaxed even when he’s under a lot of pressure. That’s how he slipped out from under me in
most
a couple of our games

Then again I have also horrendously mistunnelled him before I think so I’m not like the most confident on reading him
idk like I feel like I suspected him in Chara's Folly for devoting his time to something that only benefits scum and was generally pointless (wanting us to Spare instead of Fight)

Death Curse he took a lot of heat d1 i do not remember why

I think generally i just notice i suspect Pooky more when he's town maybe and that's affecting my read. So like even if he looks scummy it makes me feel like im just a bad reader of him lol. Still, him not doing much to control the game is usually on the town side for him and he didn't really do jack d1 there

regarding his nightkill paranoia which is probably going to come up tomorrow (i know at least Ali think it is sus) -- I know that Pooky doesnt like being nightkilled and i have suspected him in the past (Charas Folly again) for being paranoid over getting NKed for seemingly no reason
In post 115, Alisae wrote:I spent the whole day trying to rest off a migraine
In post 116, Menalque wrote:Well I am sorry to hear that but also y do u think that clidd is town?
In post 117, Menalque wrote:
In post 97, Menalque wrote:Why do you think D1 was only 16 pages?
In post 99, Menalque wrote:Also why did infinity get guillotined?
Also if, y’know, anyone wants to address either of these that’d be cool if there’s an answer beyond “ahsoka instahammered”
In post 118, Alisae wrote:his posts don't feel scummy
In post 119, Alisae wrote:do u disagree?
In post 120, Alisae wrote:
In post 117, Menalque wrote:
In post 97, Menalque wrote:Why do you think D1 was only 16 pages?
In post 99, Menalque wrote:Also why did infinity get guillotined?
Also if, y’know, anyone wants to address either of these that’d be cool if there’s an answer beyond “ahsoka instahammered”
there really isn't tbh.
In post 121, Morning Tweet wrote:Well obviously Ahsoka using the reason i mentioned but also probably Hopkirk to a slightly lesser extent also was pretty (uncharacteristically, although not in a bad way i dont think) confident on him being scum.

Hop was not using that "missing context" reason Flavour used. First, during RVS he found Infinity's townread on Ali to be too quick and it spiraled downwards from there. I think Hop found that scummy, then saw Infinity's interactions with Hop/Ahsoka to be off (partly because they were one-sided to Ahsoka), then probably got confirm biased by Jesse being an obviously town lover with infinity. Maybe that catchup doesnt do it justice but i found Hop's progression to be fairly believable and also if he's like me, then as scum it's weird to pretend to be confident on a SR early since your town self doesnt usually do that.

and like, i had to review to answer your question so really idk if you're gaining anything by asking us. Maybe someone else has better insight than me

pedit: Oh you are asking specifically about why it was
so
quick aren't you. Idk still a lot of confirm biasing, I think the reveal that Infinity was a lover with obvtown Jesse was a huge deal (and Jesse was certain Infinity was scum)
In post 122, Uncrowned wrote:mena why don't you think im scum rn
In post 123, Uncrowned wrote:also hi I missed you
In post 124, Menalque wrote:
In post 118, Alisae wrote:his posts don't feel scummy
In post 119, Alisae wrote:do u disagree?
I haven’t really read them tbh but the fact that it’s clidd and there are 10 of them and none of them are 100000 words long is... concerning, to say the least

Idk I haven’t meta dived any of his games since he got back from his break but this is much more in line with scum!clidd traditionally, esp if everyone else here doesn’t know him that well (tbf im not sure if that’s true but if it is then he prob has less incentive to try to play to his meta than if I’d been in the game from the start for example)
In post 125, Menalque wrote:Comparatively I don’t really have a range for hopkirk so idk if he’s much better at scum than I think but he’s at least projecting town in a way that clidd isn’t but that he, clidd, normally is capable of/should be by now
In post 126, Menalque wrote:
In post 122, Uncrowned wrote:mena why don't you think im scum rn
I can offer you a “there’s a scumread I sort of have on someone here, who do you think it is?” but that’s the best I can do rn

This is in addition to ABR who I’m not hard scumreading yet but who is concerning
In post 127, Alisae wrote:
In post 124, Menalque wrote:I haven’t really read them tbh but the fact that it’s clidd and there are 10 of them and none of them are 100000 words long is... concerning, to say the least
seems like an unreasonable expectation
In post 128, Alisae wrote:
In post 124, Menalque wrote:this is much more in line with scum!clidd traditionally, esp if everyone else here doesn’t know him that well (tbf im not sure if that’s true but if it is then he prob has less incentive to try to play to his meta than if I’d been in the game from the start for example)
u'll have to describe this a bit more
In post 129, Menalque wrote:Honestly morning I was more asking about if it seemed quick to try and get a sense of whether scum felt under threat and so decided to push the infinity wagon to get out from under it

But it doesn’t super sound that way

I’ll prob end up reading relevant bits of D1 as the game starts

Do people know we all share a neighbourhood?
In post 130, Menalque wrote:There’s also probably something in the town!hesse being lockscummed on infinity but I need to think about how that would fit into a scum strat

I guess at a min if he was gonna be v obvtown then if scum know that infinity has the capability of being so too then there’s a strong-ish incentive to back that wagon to guillo/quickhammer it
In post 131, Menalque wrote:
In post 127, Alisae wrote:
In post 124, Menalque wrote:I haven’t really read them tbh but the fact that it’s clidd and there are 10 of them and none of them are 100000 words long is... concerning, to say the least
seems like an unreasonable expectation
I mean yes but actually no

I don’t wanna set insanely high standards for clidd but when he’s town he normally obvtowns by just pumping out a shitload of content, both in quantity and in quality. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him manage to keep up that intensity as scum, and his scumgames are ~generally~ more lowkey played. It’s not a perfect metric but he’s more in line with the latter
In post 128, Alisae wrote:
In post 124, Menalque wrote:this is much more in line with scum!clidd traditionally, esp if everyone else here doesn’t know him that well (tbf im not sure if that’s true but if it is then he prob has less incentive to try to play to his meta than if I’d been in the game from the start for example)
u'll have to describe this a bit more
Specifically on the “how well people know him” thing — I /do/ remember him talking about wanting to try to be more lowkey so there’s not as much pressure on him to obvtown when he’s scum. So it’s plausible that his diminished presence here is part of a shift away from that. But last time he did that and he was town, he specifically posted to say he was doing it — like I really haven’t read clidd’s posts here at all, just opened the ISO to see how much was there, so idk if he said a similar thing here — but if he didn’t then it’s interesting, because last time he was town and off-meta he felt the need to call it out specifically whereas he hasn’t done so here. Morning was in that game too, but idk if she remembers, it was forest fire modded by dann (?) I think
In post 132, Menalque wrote:Yah so I just looked at his ISO again and he doesn’t acknowledge that he’ll be playing differently to what would be expected from town him at all which is weird given that he did do that last time
In post 133, Alisae wrote:what do you think of kanna?
In post 134, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 112, Menalque wrote:You can’t really deny that that’s your scum!meta, ABR
Of course I can deny. My recent scum games I was super active.
In post 135, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I tend to lurk more as PR so I don't get NK'd. I really feel like it would look too sus for me to lurk as scum.
In post 136, Menalque wrote:
In post 133, Alisae wrote:what do you think of kanna?
I have no feelings on kanna aorn
In post 134, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 112, Menalque wrote:You can’t really deny that that’s your scum!meta, ABR
Of course I can deny. My recent scum games I was super active.
links? the only one I can think of is that one where skitt called like the whole team and lilith was modding, and while I remember skimming that and you being like ~active~ I don't really remember you having any of the, for lack of a better word, ~fire~ that you would normally have as town

although point taken, as I do remember you being lurky as town too
In post 137, Menalque wrote:I really hope clidd isn't scum, I'm really looking forward to playing with him
In post 138, Menalque wrote:fwiw if I die tonight then that should be considered ++scum for him as I think he's the only person here who would fearkill me as a night 1 rep in
In post 139, Alisae wrote:
In post 138, Menalque wrote:fwiw if I die tonight then that should be considered ++scum for him as I think he's the only person here who would fearkill me as a night 1 rep in
LOL bro what is up with everyone thinking they're going to die tonight
if hopkirk, clid, and/or ahsoka is scum the person who is deing is either me or kanna
In post 140, Menalque wrote:I don't think I'm dying tonight /except/ for if clidd!scum, I think I made that p clear

y do u think would die if any of those 3 are scum
In post 141, Menalque wrote:clidd has got like an almost weird amount of respect for my towngame, I think the result of him playing with me in multiple of his newbie games
In post 142, Menalque wrote:find it mildly interesting that nobody has responded to me saying I think there's scum in the hood
In post 143, Alisae wrote:
In post 140, Menalque wrote:y do u think would die if any of those 3 are scum
cuz im town transparently in my townmeta, not lynchable anytime soon, and stronger the longer the game gets.
In post 144, Menalque wrote:that was meant to say "why kanna would die"
In post 145, Menalque wrote:
In post 143, Alisae wrote:im town transparently in my townmeta
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In post 146, Alisae wrote:because she's not scummy or likely to be an elim and there's no one else better to kill
In post 147, Alisae wrote:
In post 145, Menalque wrote:
In post 143, Alisae wrote:im town transparently in my townmeta
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When was the last time you played with me again?
I don't think you know my meta anymore :P
In post 148, Menalque wrote:
In post 146, Alisae wrote:there's no one else better to kill
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In post 149, Alisae wrote:
In post 148, Menalque wrote:
In post 146, Alisae wrote:there's no one else better to kill
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Post Post #175 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:46 pm

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Spoiler: Pages 7 and 8
In post 150, Menalque wrote:
In post 147, Alisae wrote:
In post 145, Menalque wrote:
In post 143, Alisae wrote:im town transparently in my townmeta
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When was the last time you played with me again?
I don't think you know my meta anymore :P
like not so long ago I don't think? but maybe a while

but I don't think you're meta cleared by any means based on the admittedly rudimentary pass I've given the game so far
In post 151, Menalque wrote:
In post 149, Alisae wrote:
In post 148, Menalque wrote:
In post 146, Alisae wrote:there's no one else better to kill
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ur delusional
I'm also sort of joking but like I think ur position of "only kanna and I would be worthwhile kills" if clidd/hop/ahoska are scum is kind of ridiculous looking at this PL
In post 152, Menalque wrote:esp when ur pool of "if these people contain scum" has 2 people in it who would (1) definitely kill me and (2) would probably seriously consider it before I could get any reads out

like nahdia is generally p misguillotinable, and so removing me if there's no really obvtown slots (spoiler: there don't seem to be, or maybe 1) before I can give any reads is prob a good idea from that scumteam's POV
In post 153, Menalque wrote:are we outed as a hood btw? or nah?
In post 154, Menalque wrote:oh and final corollary I may or may not be being entirely truthful about my reads in here
In post 155, Alisae wrote:
In post 151, Menalque wrote:
In post 149, Alisae wrote:
In post 148, Menalque wrote:
In post 146, Alisae wrote:there's no one else better to kill
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ur delusional
I'm also sort of joking but like I think ur position of "only kanna and I would be worthwhile kills" if clidd/hop/ahoska are scum is kind of ridiculous looking at this PL
what do you think happens then
In post 156, Alisae wrote:
In post 153, Menalque wrote:are we outed as a hood btw? or nah?
we will be on d2
In post 157, Menalque wrote:literally everyone in this hood is a viable kill for the scumteam if it features some combination of those members so trying to make the argument that if scum they'd be more likely to kill you/kanna is kinda maybe sus bc if those kills then /don't/ happen (and I don't think that's super likely, given the field, or not radically more likely anyway) then that can be an excuse to pseudoclear them which in the case of 2 of them is mmmmmmm
In post 158, Alisae wrote:the only person in the hood that gets shot that's not me is MT are you high?
In post 159, Alisae wrote:and honestly MT hasn't done enough in thread I think to be a nightkill if scum are just completely not in this hood.

Like if you actually think I end up pesudoclearing those players because they didn't night kill me/kanna then I don't know what to tell you, I'm just saying what I think what those players would do here if they're scum. It doesn't mean that they're town if they don't.
In post 160, Menalque wrote:Again we’re talking about in the particular scumteams featuring hop/clidd/FL and tbh I think ur high of you don’t think that any of those being on the team bar maybe hop don’t seriously talk about killing me/ABR/MT here as well as you

I don’t think you’re presenting as town nearly as strongly as you think you are and your insistence that you’re like ~*so town*~ that for scum to even think about killing elsewhere in the PL is frankly bizarre, especially given — can’t speak for MT here — but ABR’s general rep and the fact he’s wrecked clidd scum before, and that FL knows that in any given game there’s maybe a 50% chance I deathtunnel him and he prob doesn’t wanna handle that after a quickhammer if scum

And I wanna say more but I think it’s prob optimal to wait until D2 to get it out as it seems unlikely that the hood has no scum unless there’s a parallel hood with the other half of the PL in it
In post 161, Menalque wrote:But like your attempt to present yourself as being this obvtown when ur objectively not looks bad as does your effort to shape the narrative around that
In post 162, Alisae wrote:the only reason why you get killed is because scum don't want new opinions on a gamestate except the gamestate is very open in that mostly anyone could be anything so its better just killing a townie slot.
I can't see a reason ABR dies when you can just miselim him it's not like he's super obvtown or whatever.
MT maybe those slots would kill that over Kanna if they're that afraid of a MT obvtowning herself. I mean she's already doing an okay job of that in here so it shouldn't be impossible for her to do it in the MT. Ahsoka might actually want to kill that if he's scum tbh.

but if this is about other's players experiences on other players I don't know them.
How am I supposed to know that ABR recked scum!Clidd and scum!Clidd might be afraid of the player?
How am I supposed to know that you tunnel FL a lot and why am I supposed to think that he cares about some really delusional player who thinks he's really hot shit?
Like are you actually trying to label me as scum over this arguement? It seems really petty and pointless tbh.
In post 163, Alisae wrote:
In post 160, Menalque wrote:And I wanna say more but I think it’s prob optimal to wait until D2 to get it out as it seems unlikely that the hood has no scum unless there’s a parallel hood with the other half of the PL in it
If there was another 5p hood it likely claims just on the basis that I claimed the existence of this hood earlier.
In post 164, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I also wrecked FL-scum never forget that too
In post 165, Alisae wrote:
Shut up ur washed
In post 166, Alisae wrote:KEKW
In post 167, Menalque wrote:
In post 162, Alisae wrote:some really delusional player who thinks he's really hot shit?
Ahh, the irony
In post 168, Alisae wrote:
In post 161, Menalque wrote:But like your attempt to present yourself as being this obvtown when ur objectively not looks bad as does your effort to shape the narrative around that
meh i don't think u just get town!ali nowadays.
In post 169, Alisae wrote:it honestly fine
In post 170, Alisae wrote:i'll give you the benefit of the doubt ig

scum!ali is a really aggressive player that makes the day all about emself and establishes a strong start by taking control of the game early through day 1. See this: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84987 (I'm part of the Purple Heart hydra)
town!ali is a really passive, reactionary player, that doesn't play eir's hand until e want to play his hand. See this: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=85282 (I'm playing on my mikan alt)
In post 171, Alisae wrote:One game might not be enough for you so here you go here's 2 more
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84250
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82500 (I'm on Captain the Furret)

and some more town
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82812 (part of Keiji and Sara)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84560
In post 172, Alisae wrote:either way mena if you actually think i'm scum just wait till the day phase or wait until i do decide to play my hand.
You should be able to read me just from the positions that I'm taking in thread and my reads it should be really easy.
In post 173, Uncrowned wrote:ali will obv scum later if e needs to

I think e is town thi
In post 174, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I think Ydrasse is having a one night stand!
In post 175, Morning Tweet wrote:I idont think speculating on the N1 kill is gonna be useful because it's super WIFOMy at this point, there really is not that much content, reads could go anywhere, theres no reason for anyone to be scared of anybody other than their personal opinion of other players metas which can obviously be manipulated considering scum prooobably hears us

Not that i dont appreciate having conversations and stuff to read but it really does just feel like a

"Scum would be scared of X and Y!"
"No they'd be scared of Z if X is scum, cause they're the scariest"
"no im the scariest"

and i already think that line of thinking is probably not super helpful but that combined with them being possibly being able to read it just makes it super wifom
In post 176, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 159, Alisae wrote:Like if you actually think I end up pesudoclearing those players because they didn't night kill me/kanna then I don't know what to tell you, I'm just saying what I think what those players would do here if they're scum. It doesn't mean that they're town if they don't.
i guess that's a good point
In post 177, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 142, Menalque wrote:find it mildly interesting that nobody has responded to me saying I think there's scum in the hood
that's not exactly surprising stuff, we should be like around half the game at this point and a duo with a PT just flipped T-T

i think regarding reads ive been entirely truthful but i just dont out everything partially cause not confident but also dont want to give entire picture in the event scum listens

It would probably have technically been better form to ask questions etc with my hoodmates and then catch up right before day began, but could not be fucked back during the day and i cannot rn, so a couple nights ago was a nice exception
In post 178, Morning Tweet wrote:do you have, like, any townleans yet Mena? that you want to share, anyway. apolgoizies if i glazed over them
In post 179, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Probably MT is scum.
In post 180, Morning Tweet wrote:since when did you try this little to find scum Albert?
In post 181, Uncrowned wrote:ABR town af
In post 182, Alisae wrote:what
how
In post 183, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 92, Menalque wrote:I’m ~kinda~ checked out from mafia atm so we’re using this as a “dipping foot back into water” game
this is a mega vibe
In post 184, Uncrowned wrote:
In post 182, Alisae wrote:what
how
i predict these things
In post 185, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 104, Morning Tweet wrote:regarding Pooky I think that's lightly more town him cause scum him usually doesnt come off as suspicious whereas town him always seem to do something weird d1. Pooky as scum usually tries to take hold of the game more too i believe whereas here he's hiding ??
Weird defense of Pooky
In post 186, Albert B. Rampage wrote:What do you guys think about clidd?
In post 187, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Kanna and clidd are pretty lazy huh
In post 188, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Not rocking the boat in any way
In post 189, Alisae wrote:What do you make of it?
In post 191, Alisae wrote:Do you think both of them are scummy?
In post 192, Alisae wrote:Or just like, one of them
In post 193, Alisae wrote:Either way this gives me the impression they’re not aligned with each other
In post 194, Alisae wrote:Like if they’re teamed I don’t see why scum!kanna comes out with a push on her partner at start of day? His d1 wasn’t that awful
In post 195, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 185, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 104, Morning Tweet wrote:regarding Pooky I think that's lightly more town him cause scum him usually doesnt come off as suspicious whereas town him always seem to do something weird d1. Pooky as scum usually tries to take hold of the game more too i believe whereas here he's hiding ??
Weird defense of Pooky
As scum I usually try to intentionally give poor townreads on town so they're more open to getting attacked and it possibly spews me as partners with those town down the line

This is also pretty good because as town my townreads have pretty far-out reasoning anyway

anyway my point is I don't think you've got jack on why i'm scum this game cause this read should imply me and Pooky are SvT if you're as familiar with my meta as you claim
In post 196, Morning Tweet wrote:I think there's very likely one scum in clidd/Kanna
In post 197, Alisae wrote:Do we wanna wagon Clid instead?
In post 198, Alisae wrote:Honestly before we even wagon clid, I feel like we should at least see if he votes uncrowned. That or flip Uncrowned first unless we think he’s bussing uncrowned for some reason
In post 199, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 191, Alisae wrote:Do you think both of them are scummy?
Kanna is worse
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Post Post #176 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:46 pm

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This is only because the Grumpy part of me still loves you,
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Post Post #177 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:48 pm

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Spoiler: Pages 9 and 10
In post 200, Albert B. Rampage wrote:But clidd is better player
In post 201, Alisae wrote:I think a very notable difference between the players, and I think this could be very meaningful, is their read on me.
I’m Kanna’s strongest TR but I’m null for Clidd

Which one just seems more scummy?
In post 202, Alisae wrote:What does Hopkirk think about Clidd again?
If its still town then I think we’re onto something promising.
In post 203, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 196, Morning Tweet wrote:I think there's very likely one scum in clidd/Kanna
That might have been too hasty
In post 204, Alisae wrote:Either way I think you should stay on Uncrowned for the meanwhile.
What does voting Pooky accomplish?
In post 205, Morning Tweet wrote:Damn I dont like Pooky, Uncrowned, Ahsoka all to different extents

There's a good chance I'm wrong on Ahsoka though cause I can buy FL just pushes something he thinks is right reasoning be damned

and Pooky/Uncrowned I prefer talking to first without a vote anyway
In post 206, Morning Tweet wrote:I might convince myself to suspect Kanna again but now I feel bad cause she just sounds so innocent when i talk to her

PS: I hate you as either alignment rn ABR ヽ(`⌒´)ノ either for openwolfing or for essentially guessing im scum and rolling with that
In post 207, Morning Tweet wrote:i want to add a disclaimer that i do not actually hate ABR
In post 208, Alisae wrote:Nope
MT hates ABR
Confirmed
In post 209, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 648, Kanna wrote:i'm something like this right now

{kanna}

{alisae}

{hopkirk, morning}

{pooky, ahsoka}

{abr, mena}
----- the table
{clidd, uncrowned}
Like I think the bolded section of this readslist is correct, but below that, i feel like we're dealing with probably 1-2 in Pooky/Ahsoka, 0-1 in ABR/Mena, and 0-1 in clidd/uncrowned

So maybe she's giving her partners some slack and putting em up a bit (Especially since I think clidd is town if Kanna isn't and im still not sold on Unc yet). This is shitty reasoning probably. The point I'm making is i like clidd's reads more than Kanna (Yes, even though he put Ali in the middle) but I don't know if i can explain why

pedit: nyoooooooooooooooo
In post 210, Morning Tweet wrote:New update, i think Pooky/Kanna/Ahsoka are scummiest, with Mena as an extra wildcard cause i dont have an opinion on Mena much yet

am i likely to switch around wildly? certainly! Also I don't have an idea of who in the hood is scum if I'm going to buy into mod WIFOM that would suggest there is at least one in here, then... eeeh?

Also if I'm wrong about having Ali/Hop as my townblock this game then I am so sorry
In post 211, Morning Tweet wrote:Like Unc suspecting Ali simply because he thinks scum!Ali is scared that he wakes up and solves the game is the perfect kind of overly self-oriented town thing i see all the time. I'm not sure ive ever seen scum do that before

and I feel like Uncrowned playing as LHF is more likely town off the bat buuuut i dont actually have a reference and neither does Ali apparently since he never does this. Like I'm not going to have Uncrowned as strong town but probably enough to edge over some of the others

My soul puts clidd as town over Kanna and they're not together

Ahsoka is a coinflip for me at the moment cause I probably can't read him for shit and i think if we interact he's not going to help me much

Pooky was perfectly rational during the 1v1 shit earlier in this day phase that i kinda glossed over, i think his takes were right, but not hard for scum to make. Also him suspecting ABR for being like haunted house doesnt.. seem to hold up ?? Because I didnt observe ABR overly egoing, being defeatist, or anything like that when i skimmed haunted house

Mena is more or less because I dont know who the scum in the hood is if any and I know Mena is good at scum and i havent TR him yet
In post 212, Morning Tweet wrote:IM NOT THAT CONFIDENT
In post 213, Alisae wrote:I’m just going to follow you people around
In post 214, Morning Tweet wrote:Whew alright

Ali and Hoppy are town

Literally my gut basically points to Uncrowned, ABR, and clidd all being town

That means I want Kanna/Pooky/Ahsoka/Mena dead

Problem: Interactions are sparse, day hasn't gone on for very long, there is no reason to think I'm accurate rn. One single good move by any of the people in the gut tier would be enough to ruin my reads. Although for ABR/Uncrowned it's more of a general disbelief they'd play this way as scum, whereas with say Kanna/Pooky I can very much believe this being them as scum.
In post 215, Morning Tweet wrote:Please dont kill Kanna while im gone

It is important that i hear more from Pooky and Ahsoka (at least, I think it is). If this day ends the same way the last one did, i dont even know anymore. Additionally, Ali might be right and it's clidd instead, or maybe neither. Don't know for sure yet.

I'm looking through and I agree with Mena here
In post 460, Menalque wrote:Pooky — sort of want to trust morning here but didn’t like the justification for his vote on ABR
That's kind of what pinged me on Pooky. So mmmm
In post 216, Morning Tweet wrote:Yeah i think my general constant feeling is that Pooky/Kanna are scum but beyond those two idk

I actually kinda hate this even more than i did before:
In post 528, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i'm down to kill any of [ABR Ahsoka Uncrowned]

ABR reads exactly the same way as that time he was playing open-wolf in Betrayal.
like mmmmmmmmm if I'm to believe ABR/Unc are town as I do atm then Pooky's posting around here does not look good

And then Kanna of course has no opinion on Pooky, has the post that looked scummy to me, has the strange (imo) confidence on clidd!scum whereas I thought clidd's reaction was decent

Ahsoka/Mena both have anti associatives with Pooky from what I can tell but that's believable from the two of them.

and the hood composition continues to be a complete mystery to me
In post 217, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 537, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 535, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I feel like we are letting clidd and kanna off the hook too easily though
I have reasons to believe Clidd is town.
In post 649, clidd wrote:Regarding Ahsoka and Morning, I have personal reasons to believe that Ahsoka is town, not much related to this game
I wonder what the deal with this is but if trustworthy then also supports Kanna over clidd
In post 218, Morning Tweet wrote:can't decide whether to unvote or not
In post 219, Morning Tweet wrote:Ahsoka as scum could definitely hammer that without a care
In post 220, Uncrowned wrote:chances of kanna/clidd being TvS is high imo
In post 221, Alisae wrote:glad we got that sorted out
In post 222, Alisae wrote:btw I'm not hte only one who finds Mena's entrance into this hood to be extremely weird right?
In post 223, Alisae wrote:Can we talk about that?
In post 224, Alisae wrote:you know what let me ask the thread
In post 225, Morning Tweet wrote:i get that Kanna had that phoenix wright objection moment to clidd's explanation of why he voted for Kanna quick but not Uncrowned -- but i fail to see exactly how it's suspicious for clidd to treat the two differently, i guess.

Clidd not having a response to her saying that was a bit surprising though

Still gotta watch em O.O
In post 226, Alisae wrote:I just think Clidd's general positioning is really scum indicative
In post 227, Alisae wrote:like how is their reads not scum positioning
In post 228, Morning Tweet wrote:Why give Ahsoka and Mena hard townreads rather than you? what do you think he's positioning on, I mean?

Like he's got Uncrowned, the main wagon, open to vote -- okay. He's got the Pooky SR, okay.

Beyond that, he's never gonna be able to push you. Maybe him putting ABR low is positioning to leave that option open (although Kanna does same thing). And obviously he has Kanna sort of low.

Like Kanna's readslist keeps Mena, ABR, Uncrowned all low with Pooky/Ahsoka as well both open. She only has you as big town with me and Hop as little town.

So overall they're the same except clidd puts Mena/Ahsoka as heavy town and you in null -- whereas Kanna only has you as heavy town and keeps the others lower
In post 229, Morning Tweet wrote:Thats hard to read, basically i just see clidd making more people hard town (Ahsoka for mysterious reasons, Mena for meta) when he didnt have to. Whereas Kanna only has you as hard town, with me/Hop as leans, and she defends Ahsoka very slightly against me but keeps in the middle

i still could see it being clidd but I'm unsure him putting you downwards is scummy
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Post Post #180 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:51 pm

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I drafted for town this game, so naturally I'm rooting for them

I'm still shocked you picked Kanna as your first pick for scum tbh. I think she can endgame though. I'm just happy I got Hopkirk and Alisae for town
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Post Post #193 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:45 am

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In post 965, Hectic wrote:
VOTECOUNT 2.3


[4] clidd:
Kanna, Uncrowned, Hopkirk, Albert B. Rampage
[2] PookyTheMagicalBear:
clidd, Morning Tweet
[2] Alisae:
Menalque, Ahsoka

[2] Not Voting:
PookyTheMagicalBear, Alisae

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-12 23:40:55).

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Post Post #252 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:20 am

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In post 240, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm really spamming this thread huh, I guess that what happens when I'm in no games
I'm enjoying the commentary personally
If you'd like, you can have a free neighbouriser shot on anyone you like, but it has to be today's launch
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Post Post #272 (isolation #29) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:23 am

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lol I remember seeing that one
There's some great games in Pooky's ancient archives, things were run just a bit differently back then

The hood has been ACTIVE tonight. I may quote all of the new posts later again if you want to see them
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Post Post #276 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:47 am

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I thought Flava would've found Alisae night 1 for sure, they crumbed super hard to them. North knew exactly who her scum partners were as soon as she repped in, but it was a doomed slot at that point.

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